billante: @ op most sellers from asia ship to nigeria! Its mostly europeans and americans dat are reluctant to shipping to nigeria! I have order goods online through alibaba.com and received it by DHL

BizBooks:

Says who? Test questions are still used by Western Union for Nigeria even if you're sending
as little as $100.

P.S: My statement refers to the US only. It may not be true for other countries.

De-Grace01:
You r a bloody fool, an animal who is not ashame of his backwardness. Did ur useless leader not know what will happen to u if Biafra is declared. Hunger will kill idiots like u.

mistakay:

You will get your clothes,seizure only applies in commercial quantity imports.

muffins99: Has anyone asked these retailers why they refuse to ship to Nigeria? Many of us have assumed that they do so out of prejudice, but maybe it's simply business reasons- e.g.they've contracted out their delivery services. Many of these retailers cannnot or are not willing to set up distribution offices in every country of the world. They can however, outsource distribution, but this means that they are restricted to/ by the capacities of the contractor. So if the courier does not already ship to Nigeria, this might cause probs especially if it has to incur more costs to ship to Nija (due to customs wahala, paying someone to track the package 24/7, etc), this will increase their charges to the retailer. The question then is, what is the value of sales to Nigeria and is it enough to offset the extra costs. Remember that these companies are there to make profit and if the sales to Nigeria is large enough for a decent profit margin, Nigeria's reputation (whatever that may be) cannot stop them from delivering to Nigeria.

posh9ky: Pls house, I am seriously thinking of starting a business which is clothing (women stuffs generally), sum1 in dis forum says sumthing like it will b seize on arrival 2 Naija, pls how true is dat? Also wat shiping method wld b advice (names precisely), a cheap and secure method pls... Tanks in advance.

dasparrow: @Post

Americans and europeans need to stop with all the obnoxious self righteous and sanctimonious attitude. I had my family in western europe send me something via registered mail and I am here in the united states. The item never arrived. We then put in a 'missing mail inquiry' on both the european side and american side to see what happened to the item. The europeans were able to provide proof that the item did get shipped and arrived in New York. But it was in New York that the mailed item got missing. The americans till today are yet to explain to me what happened to my registered mail after it landed on US soil and its been 2 years now since this occured.

The case of missing mail happens all over the world and in Nigeria just like elsewhere, I believe that the state and city you send the mail to makes a difference. When I lived on the east coast here in america, my mail from my family in western europe never went missing. I move to the west coast and all of a sudden, my mail from europe stopped arriving. A friend of mine just sent me a money order from New York 2 weeks ago and till now, I am yet to receive it. That is money gone down the drain right there and this is shipping within the united states by the way. So abeg! If they don't want to ship to Nigeria, then that is on them. I prefer we Africans give our business to fellow Africans whenever possible anyway instead of giving it to the oyibos.

Kobojunkie:

Let's skip the, what I call bullshitting phase, and go straight to fixing the obvious issues. There is no need to get the companies involved when even the average Nigerian is aware of what the problems are, and they were not created on the end of the retailers. Even China has had to modify it's laws, system etc. so that it can better open itself to the world. The world did not have to come to china to beg, China knew it needed the world.

The obvious problems are corruption in the system that are exported even beyond our shores. It is not unique to Nigeria but Nigeria is one of the only countries where the Government does not feel bothered by it, and the effects it has on it's image outside of Nigeria. There is corruption in places like China, etc. but the government works not to allow it beyond it's bothers. In Nigeria's case, anyone who tries to do business with Nigeria, the country, or Nigerians in Nigeria will tell you of their experiences.
Once Nigeria starts to get it's act together, business will not need to be told to do business with Nigeria .. . they will flow in from all corners.

chucky234: I ship goods weekly ftrom US,Europe and few Asian countries like Hongkong(China mainland),Singapore and Malaysia through UPS,DHL and EMS/TNT, never had except when I shipped some laptops from US via USPS(priority mail) which was duly delivered NIPOST office in Festac but I was surprised when I got there as theyt charged me twice the amount I spent in buying the laptops. It was a very horrible experience,I'll never ever ship anything via USPS.

Kobojunkie:

um . . . . USPS does not deliver mail in Nigeria or charge you anything after you pay up at the point where you ship. So your tail that USPS came down to Nigeria to charge you extra does not fly at all.

manny4life:

You never cease to bamboozle us with your usual thrash, do you?

afam4eva:
The point BizBooks is trying to say is that some cities are more easily accessible than others. For example, it's easier to ship to lagos than to ship to let's say Zamfara. If you're shipping to Lagos, the complications will be minimized because the plane first berths in Lagos.

Kobojunkie:
um . . . . USPS does not deliver mail in Nigeria or charge you anything after you pay up at the point where you ship. So your tail that USPS came down to Nigeria to charge you extra does not fly at all.

BizBooks:

What Chucky234 said is entirely plausible. USPS stands for United States Postal Service, the
equivalent of Nigeria's postal service. When you ship items via USPS, they are processed by
the Nigerian postal service. In most cases, the Nigerian Post Office will charge you a fee
before they hand over the package to you. That was what Chucky234 said. He never said he
was charged by USPS.

Each time I ship a package to Nigeria via USPS, the recipient is made to pay to collect it.
The fee is highly negotiable. So whatever they ask you to pay, make an offer. I once paid
20K to collect a shipment of mobile phones after been initially asked to pay 35K.

chucky234: I ship goods weekly ftrom US,Europe and few Asian countries like Hongkong(China mainland),Singapore and Malaysia through UPS,DHL and EMS/TNT, never had except when I shipped some laptops from US via USPS(priority mail) which was duly delivered NIPOST office in Festac but I was surprised when I got there as theyt charged me twice the amount I spent in buying the laptops. It was a very horrible experience,I'll never ever ship anything via USPS.

Kay-Dee:


[size=13pt]There's no much wrong in what Kobo said about corruption and using China as an example. CORRUPTION is obviously the reason why the country's reputation is in shambles and almost beyond repair. The corruption on different scales by Yahoo boys, government officials (@ least Ibori made CNN), etc all contribute to dragging the Nation's name to the gutters and if corruption can be tackled and brought under reasonable control then we're on the path to redemption. The death penalty attached to an offence of corruption in China puts everyone in check.[/size]

manny4life:

You strongly believe that there isn't corruption in China based on her example? I laugh in Swahili, if you believe that, you'll believe anything sold to you. The ONLY difference between China and Nigeria is that Chinese people don't do their openly while Nigerians does their openly. Ask anyone who imports from China, they will tell you their experience, Chinese OEM's are very good at scheming folks unless you know their acts, I've been a victim before.

It's not corruption but a host of different things, U.S. is as corrupt as Nigeria, in so many ways, don't get decieved. Nigeria reputation goes beyond corruption, and if you think Ibori's case is the only one, please, do you know how many grand theft and fraud cases that the U.S. has?

I do not support corruption, but all I'm saying is I've seen hardcore fraud from people whom we believe have less corruption. In all, corruption is just a minor check in our reputation, while we need serious checks and balance, other things have to be in place.

posh9ky: Pls house, I am seriously thinking of starting a business which is clothing (women stuffs generally), sum1 in dis forum says sumthing like it will b seize on arrival 2 Naija, pls how true is dat? Also wat shiping method wld b advice (names precisely), a cheap and secure method pls... Tanks in advance.

2buff:

I think you have just decided to NOT get what everyone else is talking about.
Yes...it would have to be a conscious decision....because I don't want to say you are daft.

BizBooks:

Were you not the person that said:

Why mail Money Orders when you can just do a wire transfer or Western Union/Moneygram.

So as I said, unless you are in big hurry, you are better off using Money Order. Western
Union is very expensive.

Kobojunkie:
a) Sorry, he did not specify that THEY implies NIPOST and not USPS which he actually did
business directly with

Kobojunkie:
b) The charge is not an official charge mind you, it is BRIBE. And it has nothing to do with USPS.

Kobojunkie:
d) It is funny how earlier you pretended you had no clue that there was a problem. Now you admit that there is a problem with the NIPOST system in Nigeria? REALLY? Cause on Page one you told us all that as long as you shipped to only Lagos, it was all good?

manny4life:

You strongly believe that there isn't corruption in China based on her example? I laugh in Swahili, if you believe that, you'll believe anything sold to you. The ONLY difference between China and Nigeria is that Chinese people don't do their openly while Nigerians does their openly. Ask anyone who imports from China, they will tell you their experience, Chinese OEM's are very good at scheming folks unless you know their acts, I've been a victim before.

It's not corruption but a host of different things, U.S. is as corrupt as Nigeria, in so many ways, don't get decieved. Nigeria reputation goes beyond corruption, and if you think Ibori's case is the only one, please, do you know how many grand theft and fraud cases that the U.S. has?

I do not support corruption, but all I'm saying is I've seen hardcore fraud from people whom we believe have less corruption. In all, corruption is just a minor check in our reputation, while we need serious checks and balance, other things have to be in place.

manny4life:

U.S. is as corrupt as Nigeria, in so many ways, don't get decieved. Nigeria reputation goes beyond corruption, and if you think Ibori's case is the only one, please, do you know how many grand theft and fraud cases that the U.S. has?

.

posh9ky: Tanks Shymmex, dat helpful, guess I will mk further enquiries der... *winks*

BizBooks:

Chucky234's post was unambiguous. There is no doubt whatsoever that he was referring to
NIPOST and not the US Post Office.

BizBooks: As I understand it, the charge is actually accessed by men of the Nigeria Customs Service
who have offices inside the Post Office. It is the same in other countries. You pay a Customs fee for certain packages.

CUSTOM FEE[/b]S?? Essentially you are saying that Customs fee on laptops are about 200% the cost of the machine? That is what you are trying to tell us here And [b]Custom fees

BizBooks:
What I said is that all the packages I shipped to Lagos in the past few years were all
delivered with none missing. In the 2 cases where they were not delivered, they were
returned to me intact. So there are no discrepancies in my statements then and now.