Ptolomeus: Witchcraft has its origins in Europe, not Africa.
When the slave dominated Africa, a way to remove African traditions and impose their own, was to demonize every element of African culture. The big mistake was that Satan does not exist in traditional African culture, Satan is an element of Jewish-Christian culture.
Dear friend ... traditional African religions are not launching missiles witchcraft ... not invisible, nor eradicate the world of tyrants like Obama.
To overcome certain problems, the best thing is the culture, and a form of culture is to recognize African identity; banish all the lies of the colonizers, and to rediscover the profound cultural and traditional richness of Africa.
Then, if you want to embrace some traditional religion, do it, but knowing you it's not witchcraft, but due to deep ethical roots, roots that unknown West.
My respects.

CAMEROONPRIDE: thanks..my brother it makes sense ..

Ptolomeus:

I that I have to thank his kindness, and friendliness of all the brothers on the forum.
A big hug, dear brother!

PAGAN 9JA:
this thread is reeking with high levels of ignorance!

how many times do i have to tell that the SPirtiual forces are NOT your slaves whom you can just command to pelt someone with air-bombs! they only influence the course of events and for that we humans must sacrifice. be it in the form of possesions or hard-work or anything for that matter. we cant command and control them. the Gods hardly care for good vs evil.

the Gods only help those who help themselves. .

CAMEROONPRIDE: i'm sorry ...i didn't want to vex someone....just looking for an opportunity to make our knowledge rentable and useful for us

ifyalways: Who uses witchcraft to steal?
@OP, you think say na so e easy?mothers for don dey give dem pikins witch chop so they can use spiritual eyes, nose and bag magnet money from bank vaults.
Btw, are we talking of real witchcraft Abi na nollywood own?lol

ifyalways: Who uses witchcraft to steal?
@OP, you think say na so e easy?mothers for don dey give dem pikins witch chop so they can use spiritual eyes, nose and bag magnet money from bank vaults.
Btw, are we talking of real witchcraft Abi na nollywood own?lol

PAGAN 9JA:



you dont have to be sorry brother. i can sometimes be rude because ive explained this point before loads of times. it is obvious that you havent come across those posts. it is sortof in my nature. i should be sorry. i can understand what you mean. you see, many of us Africans even sided with europeans and fought amonst ourselves. we were never truly united you see. so not much effort was put in. yes the knowledge can be made useful in other ways. .

CAMEROONPRIDE: who?

CAMEROONPRIDE: so when do we start the union......? and it's okay

Ptolomeus:


Only sincerely grateful to you and other colleagues in the forum.

PAGAN 9JA:


without Spiritual progress, there cant be material progress. also it must be noted that christians and muslims can never live within one roof and both are a hindrance to progress and development. first we must start with grasroots level. btw what tribe are you from you can start at home. convince fellow [b]tribe [/b]members to adopt traditional faith. once it spreads other tribes will also understand. no more tithes, no more useless man-worship and lack of identity and goals.

when we are all united under the banner of Traditional Paganism, the union will come.

CAMEROONPRIDE: people use ritual to kill or travel in the night ....why they do not use the same things to immigrate in western country take money and come back with it...or they can launch mystic missiles on obama instead of killing their brothers in the village... Nollywood can teach us lmao

CAMEROONPRIDE: ETHNICITY... AND I"M EWONDO

CAMEROONPRIDE: thank u on the behalf of my colleagues we are happy to be among our NIGERIAN brother .....thanks again

Ptolomeus:


Dear friend.
You say that "people use the ritual of killing or driving at night" ....
It is at that point where you start from a wrong premise.
Do not link African traditional religions, with witchcraft, because that is a mistake.
I have already explained elsewhere interveci, which have been the slave who introduced the concept of witchcraft in African religions ... they were biased, with the purpose of cultural dominance.
If we do not understand that, if we believe that the pincar segumos a doll with a needle are killing people ... or that there are people flying on a broom ... the ignorant are we!
My greatest respect.

PAGAN 9JA:


ah i see. you are another one of them who consider the word "tribe" insulting. personally, i dont mind it. it is useful because it is easier to call ourselves tribal people rathar than ethnic people.

so you are from the Beti-Pahuin. good. you can then practice Bwiti religion. i had even posted an entire thread on it. you can search through my archives.

[img]http://program.unblog.fr/files/2008/11/bwitiweb.jpg[/img]

here: https://www.nairaland.com/818663/bwiti-religion-gabons-return-paganism

CAMEROONPRIDE: the word tribe is insulting/pejorative...i dislike it you can call a tribe someone/something which existed european didn't even know how to write and didn't have a language a why we didn't say the say the corse tribe or the basque tribe........by the way i'm BETI not pahouin ....we conquered them and assimilated them (long story)

PAGAN 9JA:


because Basque and corse are not the same tribes as 2000 years ago. it isn now only a linguistic based group.

and finally, europe has lost all her tribes (except the Sami) after the advent of christianity by 800 A.D. and so today have lost their original cultures and religions. europeans still refer to their ancestral ethnic groups as tribes. Examples are the Saxons, visigoths, Franks,, Germanic tribe (Angles, Jutes, etc.), Norse, Celts, Gauls, Britons, Pictish tribes, etc. (all nowextinct but referred to in history books as tribes).

same case with countries such as North America (Sioux, Cormanche tribes, etc), South America (Aymara, Quechua, etc), India, China, SOuth East Asia, etc (Dayaks, Gonds, Bhils, Maoris, etc.)

ah i see about Beti-Pauhin. but they all share common ancestry it seems, along with Fangs , Bulas , etc.

Ptolomeus:

Exactly the same happens in South America.
Except to the Mayans, the Incas and Aztecs, to all other American ethnic groups are called "tribe."
I do not know if the word "tribe" is derogatory or not ... but you observe that a great match between America and Africa ....
All indigenous traditions were considered barbaric, uncivilized, and beliefs considered "witchcraft", their languages ​​have almost disappeared.
Coincidence?
Or modus operandi of the conquerors?

ezeagu: Tribe is defined by groups linked together by blood, like an extended family. Many groups in Africa are not tribes, but are composed of tribes, and sometimes kingdoms, empires and states.