Religion has always puzzled me, especially when it comes to morality. From the biblical chronicles, to church doctrine, to the present day events around me, I never seem to find any sort of consistency in the high moral standards for which religions exclusively lay claim.

Take for example, the doctrine that Jesus has saved us of our sins. What sins, the ones I commited yesterday, today or the ones I am yet to commit? Why should I then be required to pray for forgiveness? If Jesus wipes my plate clean each time by virtue of his self sacrifice, where lies my responsiblity?

If I commit a crime against my society, evade the law, but later repent and accept jesus as my saviour,Do I not still have a moral obligation to pay penance to my society for the crime committed or is the forgiveness of Jesus enough to go to heaven?

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/national/my-robbery-story-ex-robber/

The story on the above link made me to ask this question.
If a robber has a change of heart, repents , confesses and accepts Jesus for his life, does both the church and the robber not have a moral obligation to the society to ensure that the former robber faces the law, stands trail and punishment for his confessed violent crimes against the society?
If he fails to turn himself in to the law for prosecution, can god still forgive him?

This question goes to the heart of religious or god-inspired morality and what it means for the greater society.
I would love for everyone to offer their views on this topic.

I went through the above story on the link. The comments i saw on the SUN were really pathetic.It shows the low level of thinking of most Nigerians. I can only ask the people i offended or committed crimes against for forgiveness. Jesus to me is never a relevant figure i should consider in away way,shape of form.

Religion is a blind fold put on black people for mental and spiritual enslavement. The Illuminati and Elite societies did a good damn job on we black people. Our country gets ripped of over $200 billion dollars worth of oil yearly and yet all Nigerians know how to do is quote the bloody unholy scriptures every now and then. It pains me that some people will still come here quoting bible verses while those white bastards keep looting our wealth,while the peanuts left for us are being looted by our greedy leaders. Nigerians are ready to die over religion rather than fight what matters most.

Jesus weather he actually exists or not is irrelevant. If anyone commits a crime,he will be punished either by the society or karma.

Shouldn't this topic make a good sunday sermon?

Mr Anoy and Ihedinaobi,Ijawkid and others,I would appreciate your opinions on this topic.

plaetton: Mr Anoy and Ihedinaobi,Ijawkid and others,I would appreciate your opinions on this topic.

They are quite tired from the intellectual bashing they have received over the last few days!

MacDaddy01:

They are quite tired from the intellectual bashing they have received over the last few days!

LOL

they will never be tired, they are soldiers in the army of christ fighting you agents of devils...

they are probably recharging and reloading..

cyrexx:


LOL

they will never be tired, they are soldiers in the army of christ fighting you agents of devils...

they are probably recharging and reloading..

lol......


That humanist thread was epic!


Anony was not given a chance to talk down secular humanism/atheism like he usually does.


He probably thought that his pals would help him out. He got debunked by 3 different atheists from 3 different point of views.

Yawn.

plaetton:

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/national/my-robbery-story-ex-robber/

The story on the above link made me to ask this question.
If a robber has a change of heart, repents , confesses and accepts Jesus for his life, does both the church and the robber not have a moral obligation to the society to ensure that the former robber faces the law, stands trail and punishment for his confessed violent crimes against the society?
If he fails to turn himself in to the law for prosecution, can god still forgive him?

This question goes to the heart of religious or god-inspired morality and what it means for the greater society.
I would love for everyone to offer their views on this topic.

If a robber gets born again , he is a brand new man. Punishing him is punishing an innocent man. The evil spirit or demon of robbery has left him. The church may not be a ble to resist it if the law wants to carry out its justice on such a man. Some gave their heart to Christ while on the death row. They will still die despite the new faith. But spiritually ,an innocent man is being killed but physically a criminal is what the world sees.

Joagbaje:

If a robber gets born again , he is a brand new man. Punishing him is punishing an innocent man. The evil spirit or demon of robbery has left him. The church may not be a ble to resist it if the law wants to carry out its justice on such a man. Some gave their heart to Christ while on the death row. They will still die despite the new faith. But spiritually ,an innocent man is being killed but physically a criminal is what the world sees.

How can he be a brand new man if he does not pay back his debts to the society?
So being born again should be a legitimate defence in a criminal court to avoid harsh penalties like the life imprisonment of the death penalty?
If a robber kills a member of your family and then returns to your church and claims to be a repented born again man, does he automatically become an innocent man?

plaetton:

How can he be a brand new man if he does not pay back his debts to the society?
So being born again should be a legitimate defence in a criminal court to avoid harsh penalties like the life imprisonment of the death penalty?
If a robber kills a member of your family and then returns to your church and claims to be a repented born again man, does he automatically become an innocent man?

There is a part of repentance called restitution. If one receives Christ, it doesn't absolve him from bearing the consequences of his crime. He should be willing to face them.

Mr_Anony:
There is a part of repentance called restitution. If one receives Christ, it doesn't absolve him from bearing the consequences of his crime. He should be willing to face them.

I agree.
Thank you.