RichyBlacK:

davidylan, I'm not conesting the allegation of rape in Darfur or in Nigeria. The thread started with a rape story accusing US soldiers of rape. Because the attached picture was questionable, some wanted to deny the fact that US soldiers have raped and massacred families in Iraq.

You are a mendacious plonker. Show us one single post on this thread that has sought to deny rape by US soldiers.Just one single post that makes such a denial.

The reality is that you have an unbridled urge to embark on US bashing no matter the issue in question.

4 Play:

Its only if the rapists are US military personnel that some ostriches are bothered.They are not bothered by the rape per se,but the identity of the perpetrators.

Just look at the farcical way he dismissed the point made about impunity in Nigeria,claiming that our judicial system is unreliable anyway,that is what people call the soft bigotry of low expectations.Its almost like saying,Nigerians are animals so we have no point bothering about the impunity of our rapist soldiers,lets concentrate instead on the US that actually disciplines its soldiers.

The whole putrid mindset of the Guff Merchant recommends turning a blind eye to more egregious cases of sexual abuse closer to home in favor of engaging in the bashing of nation with a capacity for self-examination

Can you go and start a thread titled Nigerian rape victims in Nigeria, or something close to that?

hollandis started this thread and titled it The Rape Of Iraqi Women By US Soldiers(pics Included)

RichyBlacK:

. Because the attached picture was questionable, some wanted to deny the fact that US soldiers have raped and massacred families in Iraq.

No one is denying anything. Where did you get that from? If anything people are up in arms over the fact that a fake picture was posted to make the US soldiers look bad. Like they need a picture to make them look back, there's plenty of evidence plus most solidersin general are phucked up human beings, not just the ones here. That IS the point people are trying to make that you have trouble understanding.

ThiefOfHearts:

No one is denying anything. Where did you get that from? If anything people are up in arms over the fact that a fake picture was posted to make the US soldiers look bad. Like they need a picture to make them look back, there's plenty of evidence plus most solidersin general are phucked up human beings, not just the ones here. That IS the point people are trying to make that you have trouble understanding.

LMAO!!!!

@Richy black ,insulting his parents is not worth it
"He that drums for the mad man is not better than the mad man"
Allow him to continue lamenting his ignorance

@kobojunkie supply you with names ?I thiNk thats ridiculous.These pictures, whether fake or not is subject to verification.You have a choice whether to believe them or not.I have supplied enough links in my earlier posts to cast doubts as to the authenticity of the pictures.BLACK MEN DON'T READ

ThiefOfHearts:

No one is denying anything. Where did you get that from? If anything people are up in arms over the fact that a fake picture was posted to make the US soldiers look bad. Like they need a picture to make them look back, there's plenty of evidence plus most solidersin general are phucked up human beings, not just the ones here. That IS the point people are trying to make that you have trouble understanding.

That's not the point my dear. Only nwando acknowledged that what the US soldiers did was evil. The rest of the "I like America pass my papa and mama" squad resorted to asking dumb question and pointing accusing fingers at Nigerian soldiers, etc.

They were quick to question the picture, but never admitted to the atrociousness of the despicable act by the GIs. In trying to play down the issue, they point to other rape cases.

One question:
What is the goal in pointing to allegations of Nigerian soldiers raping women when discussing the rape and massacre of Iraqi women?

Please I'm interested in your answer.

hollandis:

@Richy black ,insulting his parents is not worth it
"He that drums for the mad man is not better than the mad man"
Allow him to continue lamenting his ignorance

@kobojunkie supply you with names ?I thiNk thats ridiculous.These pictures, whether fake or not is subject to verification.You have a choice whether to believe them or not.I have supplied enough links in my earlier posts to cast doubts as to the authenticity of the pictures.BLACK MEN DON'T READ

@hollandis,

No probs. I'll just wait and see what happens, since I've reported the incidence.

Meanwhile, don't waste your time on Kobojunkie. I've supplied the names of the accused GIs; heaven knows what names he's still asking for.

hollandis:

@Richy black ,insulting his parents is not worth it
"He that drums for the mad man is not better than the mad man"
Allow him to continue lamenting his ignorance

@kobojunkie supply you with names ?I thiNk thats ridiculous.These pictures, whether fake or not is subject to verification.You have a choice whether to believe them or not.I have supplied enough links in my earlier posts to cast doubts as to the authenticity of the pictures.[b]BLACK MEN DON'T READ [/b]

That is so far the most ridiculous answer ever. You posted a picture and made claims against soldiers whom you have no clue of and you have so far not provided a source for your picture, neither the source of the information and you say we either believe it or not JUST CAUSE YOU SAID IT LMAO!!!!

You do realize that that line you keep posting BLACK MEN DON't READ apply GREATLY in this case and I would hope you would take your own advise there instead of just posting statements at random.?? ?? LMAO!!!! 


I am going to give you another chance here to salvage whatever is left of your credibility. Answer the questions Please, Or are you telling that you lied earlier when you claimed you were busy with a lot of work but would get back to answer them LMAOOO!!!!

I will not be a party to exchange of ignorance,I am much too refined for that.
QED

hollandis:

I will not be a party to exchange of ignorance,I am much to refined for that.
QED

@hollandis,

You've tried, hopefully, this thread has exposed some of the evil atrocities perpetrated by some US soldiers. I doubted the picture mainly because after the Abu Ghraib scandal they modified their tactics and became more careful about taking pictures. Without those pictures, there would have been no Abu Ghraib scandal.

No source?

Reverend:

Amnesty International

Nigeria: Rape - the silent weapon

Index Number: AFR 44/020/2006
Categories: Nigeria, Africa, West Africa

Rape of women and girls by both the police and security forces, and within their homes and community, is endemic in Nigeria. It persists because the state has failed to tackle discrimination against women or address the entrenched culture of impunity for human rights violations committed by the police and security forces. Amnesty International is calling on the Federal and State authorities in Nigeria to urgently address the legal and social systems that tolerate rape and sexual violence on a wide scale. The organization is recommending actions to give meaningful effect to the international treaties Nigeria has ratified.

NO NEED TO LOOK FURTHER THAN YOUR OWN NAJA DOORSTEPS

No source?

RichyBlacK:

They were quick to question the picture, but never admitted to the atrociousness of the despicable act by the GIs. In trying to play down the issue, they point to other rape cases.

The thread itself was created BASED on the picture and considering the picture is FAKE, what else is there to discuss. Who the hell doesnt know about the rapes that occur during war? You still havent quoted where anyone said "oh American soldiers dont rape people". By all means show me where anyone said that.

O.K, I knew there was no way the pictures were real. I googled it and found other pictures which are all linked to a porn site. The story is true but the four or five soliders have been uncharged which means the whole thing is a sham.

Seun:

No source?
No source?

Here is the source for that article.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/alfresco_asset/7d01ee14-a2b9-11dc-8d74-6f45f39984e5/afr440202006en.html

Now can we get you to FORCE hollandais to post a source for his own claim LMAO!!!!

hollandis:

I will not be a party to exchange of ignorance,I[b] am much too refined for that[/b].
QED

Sure you are!!! , but apparently not refined enough to stay away from making things up!! COME ON!!!,  LMAO!!

After rechecking my facts and a review of my comments .I wish to spell out some points

1.)Some comments made here made quite a first impression .I wonder how I will take seriously the comments of the posters in the future

2)The Rape of a woman whether in the US or Nigeria or wherever is a crime and a tragedy


3)I also apologise on passing judgements upon US Army via those pictures,I was not there[b],the issue is not the pictures but the clandestine act, but if you feel such crimes are not rampant among their troops to hell with you[/b]

4.)I wish to Thank RICHYBLACK for standing by his opinion and giving me the opportunity to know him(I thought Genuises were on the decrease, alas I have found one

5.)Most of the comments made,I read it and ignore it.Why ? Full of bullshit

6.)Nairalanders should read before posting comments

7[b].)Lastly I personally condemn any one who have sent me ,richy black or babasin insulting messages.Please take them away .it does not solve anything.[/b]
8.) THE ISSUE REMAINS "IRAQI WOMAN ARE RAPED BY US SOLDIERS" whether it happens in china or nigeria or kuwait or holland or anywhere fr that matter-y dont you post another topic e.g The RAPE of so so so so by so so so so

9.)MOST IMPORTANTLY BLACK MEN SHOULD READ Ssorry for posting "BLACK MAN DONT READ "EARLIER ON

Kobojonkie,
The question you asked hollandis was answered in page two or did you not read from page one?
below are the names and stop westing space.
Names of US soldiers accused of rape and murder and their sentences:

1. SGT Paul E. Cortez (sentenced to 100 years in prison; eligible for parole in 10 years)
2. SPC James P. Barker (sentenced to 90 years in prison, and must serve 20 years before being considered for parole)
3. PFC Jesse V. Spielman (sentenced to 110 years in prison, with the possibility of parole after 10 years)
4. PFC Brian L. Howard (sentenced to 27 months in prison)
5. PFC Steven D. Green (trial date set for April 13, 2009)

PRESIDO 1
Thanks my man ,Richyblack actually posted those comments.

hollandis:

After but if you feel such crimes are not rampant among their troops to hell with you[/b]

Who ever said this though?

@TOF some asswipes need links to substantiate my claim

presido1:

Kobojonkie,
The question you asked hollandis was answered in page two or did you not read from page one?
below are the names and stop westing space.
Names of US soldiers accused of rape and murder and their sentences:

1. SGT Paul E. Cortez (sentenced to 100 years in prison; eligible for parole in 10 years)
2. SPC James P. Barker (sentenced to 90 years in prison, and must serve 20 years before being considered for parole)
3. PFC Jesse V. Spielman (sentenced to 110 years in prison, with the possibility of parole after 10 years)
4. PFC Brian L. Howard (sentenced to 27 months in prison)
5. PFC Steven D. Green (trial date set for April 13, 2009)

Once again you go  and answer posts that are not directed at you without actually reading the post.

what has this , 

Here are some questions for the poster,  

1) Could you please provide a better picture of the so called Iraqi Woman raped by the so-called US soldiers I mean that picture could be that of two gay men trying to rape each other with a black cloth inbetween them.

2) If this is a real accusation you should at least be able to supply us with the names of the soldiers in those pictures ??

3) Posting more Porn related sites as proof is not going to help your claim since there have been so many porn movies of this sort made in that past how many years alone,  There was even a Broadway musical made about women in burkas and what not. Why not provide more details to this claim of yours?? Or is this just your way of getting attention

4) I am guessing you think people are stupid enough to believe anything to post as fact , huh

5) How does your claim stand that this site was closed cause it was an insult to america yet Youtube has not been closed down with all the pictures of abu ghraib and what not that have caused america the worst shame?? Are you sure you are not at this point complicating things for self??

To do with that post you directed at me there?? Am I asking for the names of OTHER OR ALL THE American soldiers that were prosecuted for rape or for the ones accused in this PARTICULAR thread?? @Presido

How does that post of yours answer my questions to Hollandais Which one of those names belongs to the men in the pictures above?? Why in the world would I ask a person questions about ALL THE RAPE CASES AGAINST soldiers when in this case we are speaking of THIS SPECIFIC RAPE CLAIM? ?? You just had to make this your own, huh

ThiefOfHearts:

Who ever said this though?

I am myself waiting to know who, if anyone, really posted such on this thread.

hollandis:

@TOF some asswipes need links to substantiate my claim

I think that's because most of them immediately recognized it from a Indecency movie.

Are you equating them not wanting to believe the picture was real because they know OF It as being the same as denying that such atrocities exist?

I'm confused.

Everybody take a deep breath. Stillwater is here to still the turbulent waters of this funny thread _(irony) and hollandis stop deceiving yourself, castigating the US was of great importance/interest than the issue of rape .

I brought up various statements and backed them with verifiable facts. My factual errors(if any ) were due to haste,
some people didnt get the point ,rather they said all manner of rubbish,tHe pic issue was long addressed but peeps continued making nasty questions ,comparing the isSue with Nigeria(what has that got to do with my post)which already had answers to them, there was this stupid scum just floating around(never heard of him before ,never will read his stuff who kept on deviating from the norm,indirectly protecting the integrity of the US ARMY,comparing them with Nigeria army
One fool even posted a thread aout Nigeria Soldiers sourced from Amnesty International(was that the issue of the thread)
I clearly said those pics needed to be verified,but you had a choice whether to believe it or not

How can any sane man or woman contest the ingenuity of a picture that has to do withRAPE.Just because US Soldiers are involved ,some people are saying its fake .others are saying its a black piece of cloth,they are gay man,one idiot said it happens everywhere etc etc etc
Gosh ,!How inhuman ,uncivilised and babaric people are
The point is the picture is a picture of rape.whether US O,whether na movie O.It is RAPE
na you saka?
And for those attention seekers ,To hell with you

hollandis:

I brought up various statements and backed them with verifiable facts. My factual errors(if any ) were due to haste,
some people didnt get the point ,rather they said all manner of rubbish,tHe pic issue was long addressed but peeps continued making nasty questions ,comparing the isSue with Nigeria(what has that got to do with my post)which already had answers to them, there was this stupid scum just floating around(never heard of him before ,never will read his stuff who kept on deviating from the norm,indirectly protecting the integrity of the US ARMY,comparing them with Nigeria army
One fool even posted a thread aout Nigeria Soldiers sourced from Amnesty International(was that the issue of the thread)
I clearly said those pics needed to be verified,but you had a choice whether to believe it or not
How can any sane man or woman contest the ingenuity of a picture that has to do withRAPE.Just because US Soldiers are involved ,some people are saying its fake .others are saying its a black piece of cloth,they are gay man,one idiot said it happens everywhere etc etc etc
Gosh ,!How inhuman ,uncivilised and babaric people are
The point is the picture is a picture of rape.whether US O,whether na movie O.It is RAPE
na you saka?
And for those attention seekers ,To hell with you

LMAO!!! it is official, you are a goon!!!

@kobojunkie
Thanks for the insult and God bless you.but dont you feel insulting people over the internet is as useful as arguing with a fence post.
Good night

hollandis:

@kobojunkie
Thanks for the insult and God bless you.but don't you feel insulting people over the internet is as useful as arguing with a fence post.
Good night

Actually, I did not insult you. I just called a spade a spade is all. Even in the very Bible those who act like fools are called Fools and those who are wicked are called Wicked,  What would you rather I do ?? Label you intelligent when you have gone on for the past 5 pages to show otherwise?? COME ON!!  LMAO!!!!

By the way, are you not the same person who has been calling people ass, and so on

hollandis:

I brought up various statements and backed them with verifiable facts. My factual errors(if any ) were due to haste,
some people didnt get the point ,rather they said all manner of rubbish,tHe pic issue was long addressed but peeps continued making nasty questions ,comparing the isSue with Nigeria(what has that got to do with my post)which already had answers to them, there was this stupid scum just floating around(never heard of him before ,never will read his stuff who kept on deviating from the norm,indirectly protecting the integrity of the US ARMY,comparing them with Nigeria army
One fool even posted a thread aout Nigeria Soldiers sourced from Amnesty International(was that the issue of the thread)
I clearly said those pics needed to be verified,but you had a choice whether to believe it or not

How can any sane man or woman contest the ingenuity of a picture that has to do withRAPE.Just because US Soldiers are involved ,some people are saying its fake .others are saying its a black piece of cloth,they are gay man,one idiot said it happens everywhere etc etc etc
Gosh ,!How inhuman ,uncivilised and babaric people are
The point is the picture is a picture of rape.whether US O,whether na movie O.It is RAPE
na you saka?
And for those attention seekers ,To hell with you

You are just an educated nuisance. Ride on into 2008 with your spotless and un-disputed stupidity. How old are you by the way?

Watson's needs to meet you in person. You are the epitome of ignorance for 2007!

hollandis:

9.)MOST IMPORTANTLY BLACK MEN SHOULD READ Ssorry for posting "BLACK MAN DONT READ "EARLIER ON

it is even more important that black men be able to think. No branch of the US army uses that type of army fatigue . . . only UN soldiers wear blue berets.

davidylan:

it is even more important that black men be able to think. No branch of the US army uses that type of army fatigue . . . only UN soldiers wear blue berets.

Astonishing!!!!

Upon a closer look of the picture, it is not even a beret but a blue face-cap!

This Hollandia is a disgrace.

wendymanda:
O.K, I knew there was no way the pictures were real. I googled it and found other pictures which are all linked to a porn site. The story is true but the four or five soliders have been uncharged which means the whole thing is a sham.

Ogheneme! Na wa oo! Another "American" pedestrian has just walked in to yarn dust!

My dear, four of them have been charged, tried (military court) and sentenced!!!

The fifth one is going to trial in 2009.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-102457.32.html#msg1801003