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i think they deserve to be hanged

nwando:

I posted a link earlier of a country where the Muslim sharia allows grown men to finger little infants and heard not even a whimper from our Muslim friends.
Let me get that link again,it is horrifying and I would think that a Muslim law based on the "holy" Koran saying it's OK should outrage anyone with blood in their veins.
But here we are arguing about Captain Green and his sentencing for rape when little girls are molested and have the protection of the law in Islamobia and everyone is chanting allhu akhbar.
How do we explain such?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyIYKqMQLBs

nwando,

I've watched the video and will like to clearly state that any and all forms of sexual abuse of children or babies is evil and must be condemned by all.

I hope my position is clear.

I'll also like you to view the video below showing how children are:
1. Buried alive
2. Have nails driven into their heads
3. Bathed in acid
4. Neglected so as to starve to death
5. Poisoned
These atrocities are perpetrated by some CHRISTIAN pastors in Nigeria who accuse children and babies of being witches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVVbGEOoCM

mrpataki:

You are an all-time idiot. Your analogy is highly puerile. Where in my various posts did I celebrate the acts of rape done by US soldiers to Arabs? You read posts with acute retardation.

Did you read the opening text of this topic before you went on your Anti-US idiotic diarrhea? Your compatriot in idiotic talkings started his topic as thus:Citing a picture as evidence and upon further analysis, it was shown to be from a pornographic website. I reiterate, stories without a credible link and source are useless and baseless.

Again, I will belabour myself to ask you, as I asked your compatriot. The topic raiser is: The Rape Of Iraqi Women By Us Soldiers(pics Included). My question was and still is: Is rape the exclusive preserve of the US Soldiers? Did you bother to know how Saddam Hussein treated women during his regime?

Again, what exactly is US Anti-terrorist policies?@ Hollandia. Are you as well a terrorist in the making? Where in the US legal system have they gone against innocent women and they have not defended them?

Stupidity will never allow you to explicitly state what the US Anti- terrorist policies you hate are. If it is in respect to raping women, I would state it is wrong, however, this is a common ground with all war related situations. It is not the exclusive preserve of the US soldiers alone!

Responding to your posts is not very exciting because you do not stimulate me intellectually - why is that so? I really don't know. Could it be the way you construct your ideas or the way you think? Can you please put in more creativity, insight, fact, sense, etc. in your posts? This is a very sincere appeal. Thanks bro.

@Richy a.k.a is your mother Arab?

You certainly lack a sense of irony. This is coming a few days after you responded,on the Putin thread,to a reference to the tens of thousands of dead Chechens by claiming that the US also killed civilians in Iraq.

The whole essence of the thread is not to lament the rape of Iraqi women but to attack the US.Iraqi women don['t register in your concern,your mangled analogy only reflects your idiocy .

RichyBlacK:

nwando,

I've watched the video and will like to clearly state that any and all forms of sexual abuse of children or babies is evil and must be condemned by all.

I hope my position is clear.

I'll also like you to view the video below showing how children are:
1. Buried alive
2. Have nails driven into their heads
3. Bathed in acid
4. Neglected so as to starve to death
5. Poisoned
These atrocities are perpetrated by some CHRISTIAN pastors in Nigeria who accuse children and babies of being witches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVVbGEOoCM

I watched your clip but no where in the tape were any of the acts you said done by pastors.
Please don't tell lies in your bid to score a point.
These children were ill treated by members of their own families who now relied on pastors to deliver the kids.
The neglect,the scarings and burnings were not done by a church,at least your clip did not claim so,how you came to that conclusion beats me.
And assuming pastors participate,they ought to be prosecuted when caught,it is sinful,it is against the law.
The clip I showed you,however,though despicable to you and me,is sanctioned by a sharia law,go figure!

Now did you see the little girl with the deep gash on her left leg caused by a rope tied by her father who claimed she was a witch?
Did you also hear from the Nigerian man being asked questions that the guy is being prosecuted?
Did you hear same from the child's mouth too?
What they did to these kids is criminal and they are prosecuted when caught.
Reverend King is in Jail where he rightly belongs.
How on earth do you compare this to an Islamic law that permits a man to insert his fingers into a little girl for sexual pleasure,an act that is legal by the sharia law

Do you at all see that you're comparing apples and oranges here.
One is purely a crime in that country and the other is not!
Ask yourself this simple question will a pastor caught scaring or killing his congregation be prosecuted in Nigeria? and will a 50 year old man defiling a 2 year old girl he obtained in mutah marriage in Bahrain be prosecuted?
I'm pretty sure you know the right answers.

@nwando

The child is a shameless hypocrite with no sense of irony.He has been on this thread ranting that addressing an issue,like the Iraq rape issue,by pointing to others who perpetrate same acts is unacceptable and effectively amounts to condoning such acts.

Yet,without the slightest iota of irony,he addresses child abuse by Muslims by pointing to child abuse by Christians. . . .a tu quo que tactic he has roundly condemned on this thread. The only consistency in his argument is his inconsistencies.

I-man leave the porn addicted 'simulated rape' advocates and come and take your medicine in sports!

debosky:

I-man leave the porn addicted 'simulated rape' advocates and come and take your medicine in sports!

Seun banned me from the Sports section One good result and you can't control yourself

I-man:

@nwando

The child is a shameless hypocrite with no sense of irony.He has been on this thread ranting that addressing an issue,like the Iraq rape issue,by pointing to others who perpetrate same acts is unacceptable and effectively amounts to condoning such acts.

Yet,without the slightest iota of irony,he addresses child abuse by Muslims by pointing to child abuse by Christians. . . .a tu quo que tactic he has roundly condemned on this thread. The only consistency in his argument is his inconsistencies.

Her name is Babyosisi.

I see you are still locked by oga, osisi?

A society where pedagogs are the exponential convayancers of doctora ignorantia ,then the pedagogs themselves are in need of pedagogics

hollandis:

A society where pedagogs are the exponential convayancers of doctora ignorantia ,then the pedagogs themselves are in need of pedagogics

na wa o

You and Iman sure have more in common than either of you cares to admit A TU TO QUE

The next time you make a direct or indirect comment to me.I will make sure you regret the day you were born.

hahahahaha. . .lolllllll

Go suck a d**k.

(Is that direct or indirect)

wtf?

hollandis:

A society where pedagogs are the exponential convayancers of doctora ignorantia ,then the pedagogs themselves are in need of pedagogics

Could you Hollandia, give the source or link the nonsense you spilled here. I know this is far beyond your intellectual grasps.

In a society where the rule of law is being opressed and scientific customs are yet to be consummated then illiterates become philosophers.

nwando:

I watched your clip but no where in the tape were any of the acts you said done by pastors.
Please don't tell lies in your bid to score a point.
These children were ill treated by members of their own families who now relied on pastors to deliver the kids.
The neglect,the scarings and burnings were not done by a church,at least your clip did not claim so,how you came to that conclusion beats me.
And assuming pastors participate,they ought to be prosecuted when caught,it is sinful,it is against the law.
The clip I showed you,however,though despicable to you and me,is sanctioned by a sharia law,go figure!

Now did you see the little girl with the deep gash on her left leg caused by a rope tied by her father who claimed she was a witch?
Did you also hear from the Nigerian man being asked questions that the guy is being prosecuted?
Did you hear same from the child's mouth too?
What they did to these kids is criminal and they are prosecuted when caught.
Reverend King is in Jail where he rightly belongs.
How on earth do you compare this to an Islamic law that permits a man to insert his fingers into a little girl for sexual pleasure,an act that is legal by the sharia law

Do you at all see that you're comparing apples and oranges here.
One is purely a crime in that country and the other is not!
Ask yourself this simple question will a pastor caught scaring or killing his congregation be prosecuted in Nigeria? and will a 50 year old man defiling a 2 year old girl he obtained in mutah marriage in Bahrain be prosecuted?
I'm pretty sure you know the right answers.

@ Osisi,
Why waste time educating this illiterate about his inconsistencies. I wasted 7mins 1second on the youtube link trying to see how Pastors are responsible to the claim he made above based on the youtube link.

It is a shame on the Nigerian government. They are to enforce the rule of law to those who mal-treat children as shown in the video, but alas, it is the church those kids run to for sanctuary and help.

This Richyblack is totally confused! To him, maybe the US is responsible for such an act in Nigeria.
Silly.

hollandis:

In a society where the rule of law is being opressed and scientific customs are yet to be consummated then illiterates become philosophers.

hmmm that rings true. I was just wondering who the illiterate was who started this topic with flawed and dishonest assumptions.
Do you perchance know of the person?

For instance i would have expected that "intellectually" competent persons would have tried to validate the picture used before exposing themselves as those who act without thinking.

Perhaps you can educate such a person. Thank you.

hollandis:

In a society where the rule of law is being opressed and scientific customs are yet to be consummated

Is that Nigeria?

hollandis:

then illiterates become philosophers.

Don't tell me you want to use this statement to validate your stupidity?

In a city of the blind,the one eyed man is king

May your days not be like that of Dele Giwa ,that could not differentiate between a letter bomb and a love letter.

nwando:
I watched your clip but no where in the tape were any of the acts you said done by pastors.
Please don't tell lies in your bid to score a point.
These children were ill treated by members of their own families who now relied on pastors to deliver the kids.
The neglect,the scarings and burnings were not done by a church,at least your clip did not claim so,how you came to that conclusion beats me.
And assuming pastors participate,they ought to be prosecuted when caught,it is sinful,it is against the law.
The clip I showed you,however,though despicable to you and me,is sanctioned by a sharia law,go figure!

Let's not get hung up on semantics. The churches through their pastors preach that some children are witches. The consequences of identifying a child as a witch are assuredly known by the pastors who do the identification or confirmation. And also demand money to "remove" the witchcraft or nullify its effect on the parents of the alleged witch. If your argument is that the pastors do not physically torture and kill the children labeled as witches, I agree. However, that's a moot point, for obvious reasons - it's like saying Hitler did not kill any Jews because he didn't physically use a gun to shoot any. The message from the pastors perpetuates the senseless belief in witchcraft among children and babies, and leads to the untold suffering (and death) of many children.

Now did you see the little girl with the deep gash on her left leg caused by a rope tied by her father who claimed she was a witch?
Did you also hear from the Nigerian man being asked questions that the guy is being prosecuted?
Did you hear same from the child's mouth too?
What they did to these kids is criminal and they are prosecuted when caught.
Reverend King is in Jail where he rightly belongs.

Yes, I heard that and was glad - even though it's just one 'known' prosecution. But it's still better than no prosecution. Thanks for bringing up Reverend King. Imagine such a CHRISTIAN pastor!

How on earth do you compare this to an Islamic law that permits a man to insert his fingers into a little girl for sexual pleasure,an act that is legal by the sharia law

Do you at all see that you're comparing apples and oranges here.
One is purely a crime in that country and the other is not!
Ask yourself this simple question will a pastor caught scaring or killing his congregation be prosecuted in Nigeria? and will a 50 year old man defiling a 2 year old girl he obtained in mutah marriage in Bahrain be prosecuted?
I'm pretty sure you know the right answers.

There is a glaring difference between both countries - Nigeria and Bahrain. In Bahrain, Islam dictates the law, for the most part. In Nigeria, English common law is at the core of the judicial system. So from a legal angle they differ, as you rightly pointed out. But let us not get into legal discourse because that will only weaken your position - you can't prosecute any one when no law has been broken. I hope you see where this leads us.

Using our shared cultural and religious backgrounds (I'm also a Christian), we agree that sexually molesting children, as well as torturing and murdering children, are all evil.

The reason I pointed you to that video was not to diminish the monstrosity of some aspects of mut'ah marriages (I clearly condemned the child molestation aspect), but to show you that the religion you're passionate about and always ready to defend, CHRISTIANITY, also has aspects/denominations/Christians/pastors/members-who-are-parents/members/etc that use Christianity to perpetuate evil.

NB: From the video you posted and according to Ghada Jamshir, Mut'ah marriages are not authorized by Islamic Sharia, but recognized by some Shia groups.

Nikāḥu’l-Mut‘ah, Nikah el Mut'a (Arabic: نكاح المتعة, also Nikah Mut‘ah literally, marriage for pleasure), or sigheh, is a fixed-time marriage which, according to the Usuli Shia schools of Shari‘a (Islamic law), is a marriage with a preset duration, after which the marriage is automatically dissolved. It is the second form of Islamic marriage, described in the Qur'an (4:24). However, it is regarded as haram (prohibited) by Sunnis. This is a highly controversial fiqh topic; Sunnis and Shi‘a hold diametrically opposed views on its permissibility.
- Wikipedia

mrpataki:


It is a shame on the Nigerian government. They are to enforce the rule of law to those who mal-treat children as shown in the video, but alas, it is the church those kids run to for sanctuary and help.

After you'll start complaining that I'm ignoring you.

Where did you get that information? Surely not from the video I posted, the one you claimed you watched.

How can the churches that use parents to persecute their children by sanctuary for the persecuted children?

_{Let's keep the debate civil, please.}

oh boy!!!

RichyBlacK:

After you'll start complaining that I'm ignoring you.

Where did you get that information? Surely not from the video I posted, the one you claimed you watched.

How can the churches that use parents to persecute their children by sanctuary for the persecuted children?

_{Let's keep the debate civil, please.}

I had restrained myself from calling you a bald faced liar.
That restraint is gone.
You are not only a liar,you also believe them to be true.

Yes, I heard that and was glad - even though it's just one 'known' prosecution. But it's still better than no prosecution. Thanks for bringing up Reverend King. Imagine such a CHRISTIAN pastor!

another of your silly statements.
That Reverend king was tried and convicted,most likely by a Christian judge is a testament to what we are saying.
In a 7 minute clip,you have one known prosection,can you extrapolate how many there could be in a one hour video?
Tell me how many 50 year old mallams have been arrested in Kano for marrying 7 year old girls?

What I'm saying in real life.
Grown Muslim men follow Muhammad's example of molesting little girls and call it marriage.
They prefer the girls well before they start menstruating.
Look at the little one closing her eyes shyly like a child which she is.
That is a true picture not the porn hollandis posted .

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5541006

OH NO!!!! jeeezzzz

those men are only tilling their farmland. The more virgin the land the more bountiful the harvest.

No wonder muslims breed like mice.

@ Nwando that is actually true, I watched an Afaghan movie where a little girl had to decide whether she wanted to go to prison or marry an ancient Mallam. After being forced into marriage with the nasty old man she ran away and when caught again she was imprisoned. Nasty old men, women and children always bear the brunt of nasty minds. And those picutres are not porn.

I hadn't even read the article before posting my comment and can you believe it was in Afghanistan, read Kite Runner to understand the evils of Islam as it pertains to Afghanistan. You think only little girls' innocence are being destroyed, those same wicked men find little boys and abuse them. Anything young and innocent should not be left alone in their presence.

wendymanda:

I hadn't even read the article before posting my comment and can you believe it was in Afghanistan, read Kite Runner to understand the evils of Islam as it pertains to Afghanistan. You think only little girls' innocence are being destroyed, those same wicked men find little boys and abuse them. Anything young and innocent should not be left alone in their presence.

My sister that is sickening.
And to think that a "prophet" married a girl of 6

nwando:

I had restrained myself from calling you a bald faced liar.
That restraint is gone.
You are not only a liar,you also believe them to be true.

So, a call for civility is alien to your psyche? Alright, I just thought some people will prefer debates that were not muddled by attempts to score off-topic points.

What was the lie in my post? You posted a video on Mut'ah marriages (recognized only by a sect of Shia Islam but haram to the majority Sunnis). Legally, in Bahrain, it is not a crime. I discouraged entering the legal turf and remaining on the moral turf. I agreed that some aspects of Mut'ah marriages (e.g., sexual molestation of children) are evil. Where is the lie?

On the "Child Witches" video. The pastors use the fear of witchcraft to exploit the people, accusing the vulnerable children of witchcraft, and doing nothing to prevent parents from torturing and killing their own children. Where is the lie there?

You're no more Christian than I am, but don't allow your hatred for Islam blind you to the fact that many children in Akwa Ibom state are homeless because of Christianity.

another of your silly statements.
That Reverend king was tried and convicted,most likely by a Christian judge is a testament to what we are saying.
In a 7 minute clip,you have one known prosection,can you extrapolate how many there could be in a one hour video?
Tell me how many 50 year old mallams have been arrested in Kano for marrying 7 year old girls?

You have a moral argument, not a legal one.

From the video you posted, Mut'ah marriages are legal in Bahrain. However, in Nigeria, the actions of Emeka Ezeugo (Reverend King) were criminal.

The 50-year old mallams marrying underage girls will not be prosecuted because Nigerian law (a composite of English common law, Islamic law, and customary law) grants them that right.

You don't have a legal argument, only a moral one.