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Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
ciphoenix: it says behavior is instinct in the absence of previous learning. Am i missing something here?In other words, behavior is different from thinking - that's what is explained in your link. So, animals are doing things on their natural way based on instincts(even if they are thought they act accordingly but they can not reason - what would pass for thinking). You are missing instincts with thinking ability! |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by ciphoenix: 2:09pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
all4naija: In other words, behavior is different from thinking - that's what is explained in your link. So, animals are doing things on their natural way based on instincts(even if they are thought they act accordingly but they can not reason - what would pass for thinking). You are missing instincts with thinking ability! http://www.livescience.com/5712-animals-thinking-research-suggests.html: |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 2:26pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
ciphoenix: http://www.livescience.com/5712-animals-thinking-research-suggests.html:Doesn't this research prove beyond reasonable doubt that animals don't think? Is it what have been explained what you are passing for thinking. Jeez! You have to comprehend the argument to prove if animals really think not by exercising metacognition (which in the real sense is different from thinking).Metacognition is just a surviving tool. Every animal has brain and exercise it in one way or the other but for thinking it's only humans who do that. The research is clear that animals don't think! |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by ciphoenix: 2:30pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
all4naija: Doesn't this research prove beyond reasonable doubt that animals don't think? Should what have been explained what you are passing for thinking. Jeez! You have to comprehend the argument to prove if animals really think not by exercising metacognition (which in the real sense is different from thinking).Metacognition is just a surviving tool. Every animal has brain and exercise it in one way or the other but for thinking it's only humans who do that.its not instinct either. Unless there's another word for it. Also look up http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-what-is-your-dog-thinking and http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 2:33pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
ciphoenix: its not instinct either. Unless there's another word for it. Also look up http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-what-is-your-dog-thinking and http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-textLet's call it 'survival instincts' by connotation. I think it can easily pass for instincts than anything else. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by ciphoenix: 2:36pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
all4naija: Let's call it 'survival instincts' by connotation. I think it can easily pass for instincts than anything else.Okay Boss |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
ciphoenix: Okay BossYou too boss. . |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by boyofgodbybirth(m): 3:42pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
DANILSA: i don waka pass,this topic na for great thinkers and philosophers, make una go ask jona wey read zoology, me na management i read,i will come back latter for expoI tire ooooo na money abi na food............. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Dsage1: 4:41pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
all4naija: I can only laugh at the line in bold. . Ants do that based on instincts!That is a good example for you. Now I quite understood you're saying only what you read. Talking about Ants,the following simple experiment will teach you more. Get ready two spoonful of grain sugar, put one in the very safest conner of your house and the other spoon in the very clean or open place. Study what they would probably does or their reactions to those two spoons putting at different places and tell me the outcome of your study. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Zico0(m): 6:17pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
2me, i see animals as computers: they r interlectually programmed nd cant not think outside the box. There level of intelligence vary acordin 2 there kind. But, we shud not 4get "Mr Niger" frm Biology; animals r adaptive nd respond 2 chnges, nd they also pick patterns. 4xample, the chickens in my compound weneva im headed 2 d backyard 2 dump dirti they quickly 4olo me. As it hz bcum regurlar(they didnt fathom it themselves). Hweva, if i go witout a dusbin they also 4ollo me bcuz they cant do deductive reasoning. On the oder hand, a monkey might not follow me witout d dustbin not cos it thinks perhaps, bcuz nature placed it wit bigger eyes n brains so it can pick two patterns(it cn identify wen im holdin a bin frm wen im not). I think d amount an animal wil do is dependent on wat nature place it wif. We as humans tho we do all sort of reasoning we still cant give robots life. We r jus as stupid 2 God as animals r to us Im jus sayin: i wasnt a science student. 1 Like |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by searay(m): 7:47pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Some animals like ants and termites do plan for the future, by seraching for food at a certain season and store it for the off season. Or does planing doesn't involve thinking? |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by ciphoenix: 8:09pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Even computers can learn. They can be programmed to learn |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Dsage1: 8:51pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Zico0: 2me, i see animals as computers: they r interlectually programmed nd cant not think outside the box. Good analysis but the same thing applies to human. For instance, if you know that someone would surely reply your messages,there's tendency that you will always be willing to chat with such a person whether for fun or other thing. But the moment such person start ignoring your messages, you gradually lost interest. You can test this too on the sets of fowls you're talking. You will see that by the time you carry your said basket like ten time without throwing something to them,they won't follow you again because they were able to remember what you did in the last couple of times. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Dsage1: 8:59pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
searay: Some animals like ants and termites do plan for the future, by seraching for food at a certain season and store it for the off season. Or does planing doesn't involve thinking? May God bless you. Even rats do store some food incase of scarcity. 1 Like |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 9:25pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
D sage:Lol... Hahaha... that is funny. I don't have ants in my environment though.Why not tell us the outcome of this your research? |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 9:36pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
D sage:I think, it is like dabbling into a subject without definition. You must first of all tell us what you are really on about? |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
searay: Some animals like ants and termites do plan for the future, by seraching for food at a certain season and store it for the off season. Or does planing doesn't involve thinking?Isn't that part of their instincts? If not, what are ants instincts? |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by dczieta: 9:39pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
of course animals think cuz if they only act on impulse they would be exibiting the same response everytime ......read operant conditioning it tells u that animals think and operate on their environment 1 Like |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 9:40pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
dczieta: of course animals think cuz if they only act on impulse they would be exibiting the same response everytime ......read operant conditioning it tells u that animals think and operate on their environment |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Dsage1: 10:00pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
all4naija: Lol... Hahaha... that is funny. I don't have ants in my environment though.Why not tell us the outcome of this your research? Hmmmm, smart guy,do the research first and let know your result. I'm ready to tell mine first,if you accept to carry out research. If you don't have ants in your environment, go and get them from anywhere possible. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Dsage1: 10:08pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
dczieta: of course animals think cuz if they only act on impulse they would be exibiting the same response everytime ......read operant conditioning it tells u that animals think and operate on their environment And conditioned Reflex by Ivan Pavlov. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Candybob(m): 4:47am On Sep 28, 2012 |
Animals think, the instinct is part of the thought process. Feeding, escaping predators, hunting (try catching a rat and u will understand the level of brain activity involved), selecting and attracting a mate, taking care the young, building a home (if u see wat some animals build), establishing order, politics (those chicken fights are not for nothing), guarding ur territory, quarreling, reconciling, working in a team, is not wat u do without the ability to reason. They have the ability for respect, discipline(the reason they can be tamed), emotions(love, fear, hate, suspicion, trust, empathy, loyalty, even curiousity! Their thought pattern varies but there is nothing basic about any. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by searay(m): 5:46am On Sep 28, 2012 |
all4naija: Isn't that part of their instincts? If not, what are ants instincts?you can visit this site for more info http://www.studyenglishtoday.net/can_animals_think.html http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199911/do-animals-think |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by simdam500(m): 12:44pm On Sep 28, 2012 |
Am sure they do(thinkin). |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Bolarge1(m): 4:28pm On Sep 28, 2012 |
WHO SAID ANIMALS DONT THINK?
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Re: Do Animals Think?? by searay(m): 11:20am On Sep 29, 2012 |
all4naija: Isn't that part of their instincts? If not, what are ants instincts?ask google |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 11:29am On Sep 29, 2012 |
Candybob: Animals think, the instinct is part of the thought process. Feeding, escaping predators, hunting (try catching a rat and u will understand the level of brain activity involved), selecting and attracting a mate, taking care the young, building a home (if u see wat some animals build), establishing order, politics (those chicken fights are not for nothing), guarding ur territory, quarreling, reconciling, working in a team, is not wat u do without the ability to reason. They have the ability for respect, discipline(the reason they can be tamed), emotions(love, fear, hate, suspicion, trust, empathy, loyalty, even curiousity! Their thought pattern varies but there is nothing basic about any.Instincts is not thought process.It is natural belief, opinion or idea possessed by animals.They are inherent natural tendency toward some behaviors, they are mainly for survival,etc. That is the simple reason why metacognition has been misrepresented to be thinking in animals because most animals can exhibit it. ANIMALS DON'T THINK - that's been a proven fact. Not what people are trying to insinuate here due to imagination and guess works. Even researchers who thought animals think have no proven evidences to support their claims. |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Nobody: 11:34am On Sep 29, 2012 |
Bo-large:Look closely. Aren't what in those images a pattern? |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by Emary(f): 1:45pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
I googled "Do animals think research" and got all these. The consensus is that animals think but they are still trying to determine the level of meta cognition. Some of them even think about thinking. Some believe that they think like autistic children who do not apply their senses in the "normal" way we do. Also, the Bible tells me in the story of Balaam (Numbers 22:21-35) that the donkey he was riding could think and sensed the presence of the angel before he did. God only opened her mouth. He also showed that He loves animals because he told Balaam that if she had not turned him away, He would have killed him but spared her(Vs. 32). I don't need anymore conviction than that. http://www.livescience.com/5712-animals-thinking-research-suggests.html http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/03.14/01-thinking.html http://cqresearcherblog..com/2010/10/do-animals-think.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/dec/18/hunting.animalwelfare http://discovermagazine.com/2005/may/what-do-animals-think http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-what-is-your-dog-thinking http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by ciphoenix: 3:09pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Emary: I googled "Do animals think research" and got all these. The consensus is that animals think but they are still trying to determine the level of meta cognition. Some of them even think about thinking. Some believe that they think like autistic children who do not apply their senses in the "normal" way we do. Also, the Bible tells me in the story of Balaam (Numbers 22:21-35) that the donkey he was riding could think and sensed the presence of the angel before he did. God only opened her mouth. He also showed that He loves animals because he told Balaam that if she had not turned him away, He would have killed him but spared her(Vs. 32). I don't need anymore conviction than that.same thang i got. There was no definite assertion tho |
Re: Do Animals Think?? by masterpiecer(m): 3:21pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
ciphoenix: same thang i got. There was no definite assertion tho thief!, u stole the words outa my finger tips. LOL |
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