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Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by everyday: 2:24pm On Aug 27, 2012
go write a book
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by a1solution: 2:26pm On Aug 27, 2012
Success is the key. once you are successful even your so called enemy would love you. The people you would assume they are your enemy when you are successful are not, they just love the way you are and trying to be like you. Though some may go extra mile but not withstanding they love you. Success bringeth every Joy!
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Rapmoney(m): 2:33pm On Aug 27, 2012
@poster
U wan reach 60 yrs before u go get sense to know say na success na e dey bring love?
Shuo!!! Abi u nor know say failure na orphan? Nor let area hear am o!
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Excelboi(m): 3:08pm On Aug 27, 2012
I totally aagreee with Seedord! And back to the Qstn...
SUCCESS ofcourse... 4ck love, it can come later...
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Sike(m): 3:18pm On Aug 27, 2012
Both
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Willzkid(m): 3:31pm On Aug 27, 2012
This poster had me in mind, Lord help us
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by tit4tat: 3:36pm On Aug 27, 2012
What is success n wat is love? Dere are different type of success 4 d fact dat u ve achieved wat u love doesn't mean u re successful,U do wat is neccessary to become a success, dat is u followed d process of becoming a success, u can love dancing or singing dat doesn't make u a success.Success is not wat u love is about wat u do irrespective of any circumstances,i mean aw many pple like reading or aw many of u like preaching?Success is not abt u doin wat u love but u doin d necessary things.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by riversproperty(m): 3:58pm On Aug 27, 2012
BluePinkee: do u realise success also bringeth luv i.e gurls neva flock around a broke ass nigga bt dey hang around a well 2 do guy.




Riches(success) begets friendship(i.e. Love,companions,admirers,well-wishers,etc)..
And don't 4get the popular saying that,poverty is a disease which no one wants to be get infected with..
People (including yÓu) want to be associated with success hence,when you're successful,everybody loves you,your parents get proud of yÓu,chicks double up their games to occupy the front seat of ur Range Rover sport,pave ways for your siblings to climb up the ladder and the list is endless..

I rest my case!!!
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Emmy9ite(m): 4:27pm On Aug 27, 2012
I go for suckse.x. Love will come after i become sucksexful. wink
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by omodapson(m): 4:33pm On Aug 27, 2012
BluePinkee: do u realise success also bringeth luv i.e gurls neva flock around a broke ass nigga bt dey hang around a well 2 do guy.

Na true o but not always true sha
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 4:49pm On Aug 27, 2012
Guys are misakin love with lust. They are mistakin relationships btw a bf & gf with real love.

Howeva, nice responses... More importantly pple shud title this write-up. It seem u guys aint even reading the article, it expresses some deep thoughts.

On the contrary it seem generally pple hold success to be more important than ''love''. What about we say love is more important especially when some1 is more content with what he or she owns.

Love can never be compared with success people... Never... Love conquereth all this things u guys are mentioning... It stretches beyond imagination... Stretches beyond financial or vain attraction pple will av 4 each other & it stretches beyond its definition. It may be true that success brings in all this delusive and illusive attraction from pple bt it becomes limited when human endurance is put to test.

Pls title the write-up.

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Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by beejaay: 4:59pm On Aug 27, 2012
@OP ofcourse is LOVE. i feel your pain and i have always been in that cycle of pain/pleasure until i stumbled on a book by Tolle Eckhart (Power of Now). it was until then all my thinking and emptiness fell inplace. i then realize that there is actually nothing like success or failure, its all in the head. what man need is Love, Peace and happiness and these 3 things cannot be achieved outside of us, they all reside inside us it is now left for us to search for it, live it. Love is when you are at peace with whatever nature bring your way without complaining knowing that the world is a game and nothing more. Love is when you give without expecting anything in return. when you put all your energy into your passion and you dont care what the outcomes will/might be then you have started living it LOVE.letting go of the pain body and embracing yourself

try and get you hand on the book and you will be amazed at what you will find out. it will also help you if try get your hand on the Zen practice and the inner mind of Buddhist and Samurai.

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Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by beejaay: 5:13pm On Aug 27, 2012
richarts: Guys are misakin love with lust. They are mistakin relationships btw a bf & gf with real love.

Howeva, nice responses... More importantly pple shud title this write-up. It seem u guys aint even reading the article, it expresses some deep thoughts.

On the contrary it seem generally pple hold success to be more important than ''love''. What about we say love is more important especially when some1 is more content with what he or she owns.

Love can never be compared with success people... Never... Love conquereth all this things u guys are mentioning... It stretches beyond imagination... Stretches beyond financial or vain attraction pple will av 4 each other & it stretches beyond its definition. It may be true that success brings in all this delusive and illusive attraction from pple bt it becomes limited when human endurance is put to test.

Pls title the write-up.

success is something that is achieved outside of us while Love is something that reside inside us. to actually feel this one must accept what it is ( the present moment) and leave what is not ( the past which is gone and the future which is a mere illusion).

i have so many mistakes in the past(though i have forgiven myself and everyone caught up in the middle) of succumbing to the force of fear of the past and illusory nature of the future one of which was when i broke up with my ex-girlfriend cos she confessed she had a fling with a guy. now i regret all my actions cos if i actually loved her, there is no way i would have let her go. i left her when she needed me most, i blame her when i should be consoling her, i scolded her when i should be there for her. all for something physical. Love transcend the physical which is why all view Nature/God/Allah/Yaweh as love.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 5:19pm On Aug 27, 2012
richarts:
Oh my gosh!... I cant help bt say this is a great perspective. If I get u right, in a nutshell, ur saying love is important over success because even gettin succesful requires u loving what u do. Is dat it?.
Yes. If you love what you do, the motivation/drive to infuse, better yourself and improve your skills in that particular work would increase and in turn, those efforts would help you perform better. Eventually, you would reap the results of those efforts – because it would show to others around you: your colleagues, your boss and those you’re servicing. An asset to a company is always looked after. Even if you were your own boss, people would still be involved. No man is an island. You may not be rewarded when you want nor feel appreciated at times, but hard work always pays off. It's impossible for someone to get ahead when they hate their job and perform poorly. You can put up a front and pretend like you love what you do and it may not affect you nor your duties initially, but sooner or later you would get burnt-out and it would show.

richarts:
Bt do u also know dat u can love to do something passionately and u wud nt get accomplishments from it?
Yes. BUT are we talking about monetary accomplishments or accomplishments in terms of being fulfilled/inwardly satisfied? You can love to do something passionately and not get “monetary accomplishments” from it, but you can still be fulfilled in it and that is still a great deal of accomplishment to me - one which money cannot replace.

richarts:
Have u ever been scared of this?... Failure?.?
Most def.

richarts:
So what is the title u wud give this writeup?
I think the title's just fine as it is.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 5:27pm On Aug 27, 2012
I think you should watch this, richarts. It's a lil' over 15 mins, but well worth it. Tell me what you think.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 5:34pm On Aug 27, 2012
Yield who r u?. U seem a rare type of person & u r analytical. U strike me as som1 who wnts to make a diff... Wud sure wnt 2 get 2 knw u..


B.eejay I like u. U seem very enlightened. I can relate wit d window thru which ur coming from. I like ur perspective. Howeva im very idiosyncratic. Wudnt wnt 2 read dose books about judhaism etc except 4 d power of now if u av d "e". Title ds article.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by sollex(m): 5:44pm On Aug 27, 2012
To my opinion, Finding love is success in itself! Do u think its every 1 dat finds love? Hence, Love is encompassed in Success. If u take a closer look at success, it means achieving or accomplishing your set goals. Success is d KEY. D ability for u 2 b content with life is success. If u don't find delight, joy, pleasure, victory, happiness in any area of your life, then dat means full Success is not achieved.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 5:55pm On Aug 27, 2012
Yield internet is molesting me. Cnt watch d video.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Michky: 6:34pm On Aug 27, 2012
With the kind of respect that i had for nairalanders before reading this thread, my expectations were soaring as i clicked the link. My verdict? well, am not disappointed. First, i was blown away by OP's post and that sealed it for me. We regarding my response to the topic is this: Even if some people like eh, let them combine the seven books of Moses with all the ancient books of this world (samurai, buddah et al), the fact would still remain that the world within which we have found ourselves today is a capitalist one where financial success is the koko, the magnet, the King! IMHO,Success is for the rich while love is for the poor (those that have attempted success but have been subjected to settle for less). My 2 cents.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by beejaay: 7:02pm On Aug 27, 2012
Michky: With the kind of respect that i had for nairalanders before reading this thread, my expectations were soaring as i clicked the link. My verdict? well, am not disappointed. First, i was blown away by OP's post and that sealed it for me. We regarding my response to the topic is this: Even if some people like eh, let them combine the seven books of Moses with all the ancient books of this world (samurai, buddah et al), the fact would still remain that the world within which we have found ourselves today is a capitalist one where financial success is the koko, the magnet, the King! IMHO,Success is for the rich while love is for the poor (those that have attempted success but have been subjected to settle for less). My 2 cents.
you can as well tell us why the so call affluent look for happiness everywhere despite all materials at their feet. you can begin to tell us why suicide is legalize in Australia, you can begin to tell us why suicide is high in the so call civilized environment. have you ever wondered why the so call rich still feel empty despite having everything have you ever wondered why when we were young we wanna be old and when we are old we wanna be young again??the truth is we all continue looking for what was already given to us by God and think that we can recapture it by chasing it. those this word ring a bell "what shall it profit a man to gain all the world and loses his soul". read your Bible or Qur'an or if u are an Atheist ( the very core believe of all Atheist is Sharing and giving love while realising all man is equal. does the law of Ahimsa ring a bell)

whether we are in capitalist world, communist or socialist world the fact still remain the gift of God to us human is the world and our gift back to the world is our gift to God (and that only gift is love). love everything around you from the madman working on the street to the slowpoke sitting next to you to the animals that live around us. why do you think there is war across the globe?? the golden gift from God is lost.

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Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Sharexgold(m): 7:11pm On Aug 27, 2012
None of the Above....!
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 7:40pm On Aug 27, 2012
B.eejay nice. The writer u respondend too got me confused about wat he's saying cos it seem limited... He seem caught up in d web of financial race alone & did nt try 2 xpand his views on or cravings for love which he is denying except dat money is important.

@sharexgold pls what are u saying?.

The trick of this topic is dat pple r scared of picking love as superior cos they are enveloped with envy, greed, pride, intimidation & ostentatious living bt they think a man who has chosen love is poor.

For me I believe its love first then contentment. Contentment in this context is "user defined".
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by kinguwem: 8:44pm On Aug 27, 2012
The only true love is the love of God for man. 'God is love and love is God'. Have you forgotten the tragedic of Romeo and Juliet.
Success is a relative term. It can be assessed using various criteria. Usually it is assessed materially.
Success enhances love.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by beejaay: 9:10pm On Aug 27, 2012
kinguwem: The only true love is the love of God for man. 'God is love and love is God'. Have you forgotten the tragedic of Romeo and Juliet.
Success is a relative term. It can be assessed using various criteria. Usually it is assessed materially.
Success enhances love.
the truth is anything outside of us cannot enhance whats inside us, its only what is inside us that can enhance what outside us thus the use of intuition, intelligence, brilliance and thinking.the truth is all human beings are connected( in 1982 Aspect Experiment in France demonstrated that two once connected quantum particles separated by vast distances remained somehow connected. if one particles was changed, the other will change instantly. curled from the same book "The Power of Now"wink. the question is will i ever love less something that is part of me? if i understand that am connected to all livings, will i ever love them less given the fact that i love myself in an unquantified manner.

this and many more are questions i have been trying to get answered to before God directed the said book to me and since then i have taken up both the Qur'an, the Bible and other Holy Books and i have gained and understand more of what God is/was and have been trying to pass down to humanity, something our spiritual leaders refuse to let us understand if they understood it themselves.

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Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 27, 2012
B.eejay what is love?... In a relationship btw a girl and a boy, what do u think help both parties stay in love?. Pls I need ur quick perspective. U av a unique view of things.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by ZeusI: 10:00pm On Aug 27, 2012
richarts: NB: Success here is financial & career accomplishments.

In the light of my quest and thirsts... Of my groanings and yearnings for success and then for the knowledge of what makes success when all my effort at attaining it couldnt bring the desired results. In the light of my struggle to achieve that which had been laid in my heart... In my hands. This known only through my inner man. In the light of my hardwork, sleepless nights, deep-rooted thoughts and information seeking about success, success still felt like a fairy tale.

They say ''if you pee on one spot it would smell'' but the fear of peeing on one spot, faithfully hoping, yet doubtedly threatened by the momentarily ''lack-situation'' talk more of my human error of being scared of the future made me to discard the saying. Chris Angel said: ''There is no key to success except that you dream, you have a passion and you believe in yourself'' but it still looked to me like the former, I wasnt convinced.

My thirst for fulfillment continues. It sickens me, it dehydrates me, exhausts me and sometimes makes me feel helpless.

I resorted to trying all sorts. Ofcourse I am trying all sorts... From music, to writing, to amateur consulting to this and that. I am trying all sorts. Sometimes the world feels incredibly silent when im alone, revelling the moment when success would come my way or rather when I would come the way of success. This thoughts exhausts me and it only seem the more to me like succes is deaf to certain people.

I am scared of the future yet I am unaware of tomorrow but they say the future is now and so I would say I am taunted by my present. I envy the succesful positively attimes or did nature just brought it their way I asked... I wondered.

I have lots to say. I want to talk about my personality, about my uniqueness, about my perspective but I dont want to bore you. Not that I care but because I feel like sharing my thoughts to just one ''entity''... An ''entity''?... One ''person'' in the world who means much more to me than anything. That one ''personality'' is love.

I realized that it conquers all this feeling. It lives, it breathes, it does not die and is free from hate, threats, intimidation, failure and others. I realized that what I crave mostly for is love. It is the only true existence that completes my being... That completes a man not success.

Love, I want you. This is the very same thought that occupy the last scene in my head whenever im so enveloped with the movie or fantasies or plans of getting succesful.

One thing I concluded; ''Love is the greatest thing that can happen to any man''.

Richarts.
Hmmgh-hmgh! I have something to say. Firstly, i once heard that: 'if you want people to naively sign your document without much fuss, you should make it lengthy'. Secondly, some people tends to still believe that deception can easily be imposed on the masses[Nigerian masses actually]. Thirdly, when Jesus Christ preached love, he examlified love by not engaging himself with anything money(success), to make that message of love to sink deeper. Now what is your occupation? As for me i choose Success over Love. Reason: there is no more Love in existence.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Michky: 11:59pm On Aug 27, 2012
@ Richarts and co. Here's my response to you both. You are absolutely entitled to your opinions. No matter what i do or say, if you never intend to reason with me, my point will continue to remain meaningless to your minds. That aside though. For the sake of good arguement, i will give reply to your some of your statements. Now, when i said financial success is King, i didn't make a mistake. In order to survive this capitalist world that we all reside in, you need money and love. But since you put us on the spot by asking us to select one, then, what you need first is money!. Lets do a little exercise, shall we? Please walk to the closest provision store close to where you stay and tell them to give you everything in their store for free because you practice buddaism or zen or because you love them deeply and see if you won't leave there embarrased. What's my point? Survival is why you or i are still here on nairaland today. Am assuming that you've heard the phrase "survival of the fittest" right? Lets look at primitive examples of survival shall we?. In order for a lion to survive, it needs its claws, teeth, strenght etc, to either feed on preys or protect itself from predators. Now, in the case of humans, we don't use claws, or the rest of that to get protected from predators. Instead, money serves the purpose, as we use it to buy protection from robbers and buy food for good health: all in the name of survival. Fact remains that whether you like it or not, no amount of meditation or loving emotion you show to others will put food on your table or protect you from armed robbers or general danger. I will continue in the post below.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Michky: 12:00am On Aug 28, 2012
Lets disect your post one after the other shall we? Q 1: Why do the rich still seek happiness. A: Happiness is not the same as love (they are two very distinct concepts. check your dictionary). Besides, you could have the most friends in the world and still not be happy. Y? Very bad or terminal health could be a good reason. Q 2: Why is suicide legalized in Australia and suicide rate high in Sweden? A: Not everyone in Australia is rich hence your question is invalid for the arguement. Plus suicide is legalized in Australia because that's their interpretation of freewill, just like some states in the United states permits their citizens to marry same sex or own guns. get it? Why is suicide high in more civilized environment? Well honestly, the answer is because they are simply more civilized. What do i mean? You see, civilization comes from education. Education comes with enlightenment. Enlightenment comes with freedom. Suicide is their expression of freedom from a world that doesn't seem to be heading anywhere imho. Q 3: Why do the rich still feel empty inside despite their accomplishments? A: There is no general answer to this question but i will try to provide a sample. Fact is, not being loved is not the only reason that a person could feel empty inside. Other reasons could be: lack of a sense of purpose or drive, boredom, etc. Besides, you asked "why do the rich still feel empty inside". Fact is, not all rich do feel that inside emptiness as you put it, hence, your arguement is a fallacy. In conclusion, what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul. This statement, amongst others likewise, is the rich's way of keeping the society in order. Truth is, if everyone realises that what's most important to human survival is not religion, love, but money; there will certainly be anarchy i tell you. Sadly, they've also realised that its just mathematically, empirically, impossible that everyone would have equal amount of wealth at the same time (for instance, if Nigeria's budget is 100 trillion naira, and every nigerian wants to be a millioniare, that money wouldn't still be enough. Do the maths and see for yourself). Another fact is, no matter how long my post will be, if your cup is already full, there's nothing any jupiter will say that will change that. Stick with what you choose to believe and i'll gladly stick to mine. One thing is definately sure, time will always be a fair judge.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 12:13am On Aug 28, 2012
here is something very important that y'all should remember:
SOME MEN OUT THERE ARE SO POOR, THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IS MONEY!
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Michky: 12:15am On Aug 28, 2012
MRbrownJAY: here is something very important that all posters should remember:
SOME MEN OUT THERE ARE SO POOR, THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IS MONEY
Wow, that's really deep. Nice 1 but i still don't get it. Could you shed more light on it plz? hehe
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Nobody: 2:24am On Aug 28, 2012
Mr Brownjay let us hear from you. @ Mickhy u simply av a valid argument with facts but that doesnt make it true u know?. A lot of pple dnt believe what u do.
Re: Success Or Love, Which Is More Important?. by Michky: 8:45am On Aug 28, 2012
richarts: Mr Brownjay let us hear from you. @ Mickhy u simply av a valid argument with facts but that doesnt make it true u know?. A lot of pple dnt believe what u do.
They dont believe what i believe for two clear reasons: 1) they dont know what i know & 2) I am free but they are not (although they strongly believe they are).

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