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Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by dotcomnamename: 10:15am On Sep 12, 2012
A MUST TO READ

I am Evangelist Rodolfo Acevedo Hernandez
(Dominican Republic). My throat has been affected from sharing this testimony but we will do it again today even against any opposition. Glory to God! We are here to preach the word of the Lord Jesus Christ and I’m going to give the testimony that impacted my life and thousands and thousands of other lives!!

Let’s go to Revelation 1:14-15 “His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters. His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire”.

Because I didn’t want to remain in the same spiritual condition I was in, I locked myself into my church for eight days. Eight days of fasting and praying, locked in with the Lord Jesus Christ. Before I started those eight days with the Lord, He told me through a vision “Rodolfo, it’s time that you set yourself apart for me,” and I was given a white garment in which was written the words “Holiness to Jehovah”. After that vision, a missionary lady from my church told me, “Rodolfo, I had a dream about you where the Lord told me to tell you: “separate from the altar (since I was a preacher); I’m going to show you something big that will impact peoples and nations around the world.” So I did it and I started my eight day commitment to the Lord.

CHALLENGED

Around the fourth day into fasting and praying, I was praying at the altar and suddenly, before me appeared two demons and I saw them like you can normally see two persons face to face. These demons told me: ‘Rodolfo, we’re not going to permit that you pass our limits’; and they disappeared immediately. I started feeling much fear because when you see spiritual beings in their physical appearance, it is terrifying! These two beings were tall and had a sulfur smell as if they had just come from hell. They were sent to tell me that they were not going to permit me to pass over their limits. But the devil is the only one that has limits; the Lord Jesus Christ defeated him at the cross of Calvary. Glory to God hallelujah!

When seven days had passed in my commitment with the Lord, I told him: “Lord, I can’t bear it anymore. My body is weak, I don’t have much strength. Lord, please help me, I can’t fulfill this commitment. Please forgive me, give me strength”. Suddenly I felt behind me someone walking towards me and spoke to my ear; “Rodolfo, don’t abandon this commitment until we show the things you are about to see”. I was then encouraged, I felt more strength. On the next day, it was Sunday. I felt a little weak in the morning. At night during the service, there was a powerful message by evangelist Ruben Bells. When it was finished, I was greeting all my brothers and sisters. I started feeling as if my breath was escaping from me. I felt suffocation and I could not breathe.

The brothers from my church surrounded me and began to pray. Suddenly, I felt as if through my nails and fingers somebody was injecting me with many needles. The coldness from the needles penetrated my body like cold air and I felt that my last breath was gone and that my heart failed. I fell to the floor and my brothers began to revive me. There were about 12 brothers. Suddenly, I felt my soul abandon my body and I saw my body from the outside, the body lying on the floor. My brothers were unaware of what was going on with me. A sister who is a nurse told them, ‘he just had a heart attack’. I wanted to reach out to them and to my body but I could not.

- HELL -


Suddenly, I felt the lights going off and I started flying higher up at a significant speed. However, someone interrupted my course of ascension and I began to plummet until I felt extreme heat. Then, I saw two bad smelling black doors. It was hell and it was horrendous. As I was about to enter the doors, a large serpent, whose head was full of thorns and whose body was covered in blades instead of scales proceeded to enter a jail. While I entered those doors, I saw eyes of all kinds in the walls, looking at me; but those eyes were engraved in the walls. Suddenly, I saw two eyes coming out from the wall and it was a demon that had a plate on his chest that read, “I am Vengeance”.

JUDGMENT OF UNFAITHFUL MINISTERS


At the same time, more demons began to come out from the wall. The demon called Vengeance exclaimed with a loud voice, “King Baalzebub, we have one of the big ones that raged war against us, the kingdom of darkness…..” The Bible says, “For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them” 2 Peter 2:21. The church that knows the Lord must continue to be firm and recognize that Jesus is the ONLY hope for the salvation of their souls.

Being there, this demon called Vengeance came close to me and told me, “Rodolfo, I want you to cast me out, just like you did on earth.” While he said this repeatedly, he was tormenting and punishing me. And, I saw demons already lined up to torment me! The torment in hell for the pastors, preachers, and evangelists that depart from the power and the anointing of God is superior to other souls in hell! Be firm in your walk with God. This is the hour to be a firm church. The time is now. The time to play church has come to an end. We must have the courage and overcome the powers of hell in the name of Jesus – He alone is the light.

Suddenly, a demon jumped out of line and threw a javelin at me which passed through my heart. I felt an indescribable pain. I also felt like it was raining sulfur in hell. I felt my flesh fall off my bones and worms began to drill into my bones. The Bible says, “where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:48; furthermore, in Isaiah, the Bible says “maggots are laid as a bed beneath you, and worms are your covers” Isaiah 14:11. Hell is real. Jesus and the Old Testament talk about hell.

Suddenly, I saw a group of demons bringing a casket, but it was a very different kind than the ones here on earth. The demon called Vengeance took me by the lower part of my mouth and told me, “Rodolfo, I want you to cast me out! Where is your power? Where is your anointing? Where is the glory that you had”? The message I want to convey here is that sometimes because we preach, we think that the anointing is ours and that the power is ours, and that the healing is ours. The Bible says that from God is the glory and the glory belongs to God alone. For this very same reason, the devil was cast out from Heaven because he wanted the glory of God for himself. Therefore, many believe that the sick get healed because they can heal and that the demon possessed are delivered because they have the power to deliver them! Let me tell you that what the Lord has given you is a gift from heaven. It is the mercy from God with the purpose of delivering the afflicted and for the souls to be saved.

I AM

As they were putting me into the casket, I felt a wind and I felt that something fell to the floor. The demon Vengeance and the other demons quickly disappeared and hid themselves from this presence. I was on the floor from the mistreatment and the first thing I saw that I will never forget… Oh, Glory to God! I saw a being full of light….Hallelujah!!! I saw scars in the feet of this being. When I raised my head I saw that this man, this wonderful being, had a belt about His waist that reads, “I AM the KING OF KINGS, and the LORD OF LORDS.” He had a very big crown of gold. He extended his hands toward me and said, “Rodolfo, I AM JESUS and I AM going to show you many things in hell, heaven and the condition of my church on earth.” He took my hand and said, “Let’s go now, Rodolfo.”

PROSTITUTION

I saw that He opened a big cage where there was a woman. He said, “I’m going to show you the punishment that satan gives to the ones who were prostitutes on earth. When the prostitute dies, they come to this place. Observe, Rodolfo.” I looked and saw inside the cage, there was a woman who was in a fetal position and I saw the same serpent that I had seen at the beginning. The serpent entered the cage of this woman and I saw how the serpent entered into the intimate parts of the woman; but remember that I told you that the skin of the serpent was of blades not of scales. As the serpent entered the woman, it penetrated and destroyed her internal organs. After this, it exited through her mouth.

The demon controlling the prostitute on earth is called, “Metresa or Martha”, or “The Domineur”. Many Catholics have this “saint” as a woman whose body is coiled by a serpent and this demon is the one that is tormenting the prostitutes in hell. The Lord told me that it was time to leave that place and we left that crying woman as she was being tormented and lamenting in pain. “I need somebody to help me!” she cried out. The Lord told me, “Rodolfo, judgment has been set for them! Now Rodolfo, I am going to show you the place where satan torments women who aborted their children on earth!”

ABORTION


Suddenly, I saw a woman in the position of giving birth and I saw a horrible demon whose hands and feet were like a horse and his appearance was like an animal and he had a drill in his hands. This drill was full of worms. These worms were very big and had their teeth sharpened and their bodies where full of sharpened thorns. The demon put the drill through the intimate part of the woman until the woman looked like she was pregnant. The demon started screaming at her, telling her that she had to give birth to this one in hell since she rejected the one on earth. The demon said, “praise, praise satan! This is your kingdom!”

When I asked the Lord why the punishment was so terrible for this woman, the Lord said, “Rodolfo, judgment is set for this woman!” The Bible says that murderers will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Gal 5,20). People who abort their children or kill them believe that what they are doing is like killing an animal but what they are really doing is killing a human being that has a soul and body. The demon continued screaming at her, telling her again to praise satan because it was her kingdom. These worms began to come out through the belly of the woman destroying the internal parts of her body and coming out of her with pieces of meat in their mouths. You could see the intense pain she was going through. The Lord told me, “Let’s go out of this place.”

SATAN’S ATTACK ON CHILDREN & THE FAMILY


We went to a place where there was what looked like black bars. I started seeing many children in hell. I asked the Lord, “why are there children in hell?” But the Lord told me that they were not children, that the kingdom of heaven belongs to the children and you have to be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven. “So, Lord what about these children?” I asked. The Lord told me again, “Rodolfo, they are not children”, but He asked me to listen to the order that satan was giving to them.

When they turned around I saw that they were not children but demons and they were playing with a game called Nintendo. I started seeing all kinds of satanic programming and games making signals and movements with their hands, all with satanic purposes. When the Lord ordered them to turn around, I could see their forms were grotesque, horrible and disgusting. Satan gave them the order, “my sons, go steal, kill and destroy.” He was right because the Bible says that satan comes to kill, steal and destroy but Jesus came to give life and give it more abundantly (John 10:10).

Meanwhile, these little demons entered the earth and the Lord told me that this is why the children on earth are killing themselves, in the meantime, scientists and children psychologists do not understand why children take up their lives by suicide. A few months ago, a twelve year old boy killed his mother with a knife, another hung himself and in the U.S.A, a seven year old boy killed his mother, his little brothers and himself with a pistol he found. Another boy threw himself from a second floor killing himself. The letters and notes left behind by these children say that life is worthless and many other things. This happens because demons enter into their bodies and possess their being and they lead them to kill themselves. Be careful fathers and mothers what your children are watching on television. What your children are watching on the internet and what your children are listening to on the radio matter. The demons infiltrate through television, radio, music and satanic comics. Glory to God, Hallelujah, for awakening us!!!

Then, the Lord told me for this reason so many marriages are destroyed because some parents blame the children and think that because of that child they must divorce. But the child is not the problem. The problem is the demonic attack against the union of the marriage and family. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ! Call the church! Ask for prayer so you can have a home free from demonic attacks! “Now Rodolfo” said the Lord, “it is time to get out of this place.”

IDOLATRY

When we left that place, I saw a woman totally engulfed by fire, this woman was lamenting and crying saying ‘die, die, die! Take me out of here!’ What I saw is that this woman had a picture in her hands of the “Sacred Holy heart of Jesus”. According to the Catholic tradition. Lord, who is this woman? The Lord told me, “Rodolfo, that woman is your grandmother.” The Bible says the idolaters will not enter the kingdom of heaven (Rev 21,8, Gal 5, 20, Eph 5,5). The Lord showed me the life of my grandmother on earth and I could see that she was an idolater. I said, “Lord, please help her!” The Lord told me, “Rodolfo, I can’t do anything! Judgment has been set for her!” Now the Lord told me, “I am going to show you what is going to cause you persecution on earth. Many will not believe what you are about to see but, don’t worry, I will be with you.”

CELIA CRUZ (the Queen of Salsa) in HELL

Suddenly, we saw a woman with her feet being crushed by knives that even reached to her knees and at the same time, this woman was being punished by many demons. I looked and saw that this woman was Celia Cruz! The Lord showed me a video of Celia Cruz doing satanic pacts in Hollywood with blood and I saw her doing many satanic things. The Lord said, “she was a Satanist. She was an idolater. She was a witch having satanic pacts with blood. So her music got a hit of success, same as her group of musicians.” And the Lord let me hear one of her songs called ‘Yemaya’, which is a very popular song in the Spanish world. But when you sing that song and repeating that name what it means is this: ‘King satan, come and reign over me!’ And the Lord told me, “Judgment has been set for Celia Cruz.”

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES FOUNDER in HELL


We continued walking and the Lord showed me a white man whose hands were stretched out and the surprising thing about this man is that he had a very fine sword inside his tongue and this sword crossed through his head and was coming out of his body. His feet were grabbed by chains and his back was full of blades set in different positions in a way that no matter how he moved, he would be cut. When I saw this man in this condition, I told Jesus, “Lord, please help him. Do something Lord Jesus. Look at the horrendous pain that this man is going through.” The Lord asked me- “Do you know who this man is? “No, Lord”, I said. I saw how the knives got through his skin and then through the bones and how they came out of his body. The man only screamed in agony.

The Lord told me, “judgment against this man has been established. Now I am going to tell you the identity of this man.” Because of that revelation, the Lord said ‘You will have to run from city to city because this will cause you a great persecution but I will be with you.” He went on to say “Rodolfo, this man is Charles T. Russell”. I said “Lord, who is he?” The Lord said that this man was the founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I pleaded “Lord, please help him” and the Lord said: “No, Rodolfo”. And as the Lord moved his hands, immediately I saw that many souls were falling into hell in every way possible: they were falling head first, feet first, stomach first etc.

“Rodolfo, for that cursed man, all these souls are entering into hell. This man taught that God was only a God of love. The Bible says that God is a consuming fire. This man Charles Russell took the word hell from the Bible and he took out all the words sheol and Abaddon. Also, he denied the deity of Jesus Christ and also denied the deity of the Holy Spirit and he put only the Word Jehovah in the Bible. He took out Jesus and the Holy Spirit. For this cursed man, all these souls are falling into hell.” (Rev 22:18-19).

Then the Lord said: “I curse that man”


Please Jehovah Witness that is listening to me at this moment, I don’t want to offend you. Get out of that sect and come to Jesus quickly. I don’t hate you and I don’t hate your religion either but you are in a farce. Come to Jesus. He is waiting for you with open hands. Charles Russell is in hell because he taught lies!! Don’t follow his lies. When we left this place, these prison doors closed and caught fire and this man Charles Taze Russell cried and screamed and cursed Jesus repeatedly because Jesus said “The judgment has been set for this man”.

Now the Lord said: “Rodolfo, now I am going to show you the black jails of hell. This is the extreme punishment of satan to the souls in hell.”

‘No Lord, please! I have already seen horrendous things, take me out of this place. Please…”

The Lord said, “OK, Rodolfo, I am not going to do anything if you don’t permit me. I am going to take you to heaven now”.


- HEAVEN -

We left at a very high speed and we arrived to this place. Two angels stopped me before two beautiful doors. They were very elegant. These two angels told me: “Rodolfo, with those sinful clothes, you cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” So they gave me new garments on which was written: Holiness

THE RIGHT MESSAGE


Pastors, evangelists, preachers and missionaries; please excuse me and listen. God has not called you to preach abundance of prosperity or prophecy about that. God has called you to preach holiness and sanctification, because without holiness, nobody will see the lord. Get the word out, get the word of holiness out there and preach it !!!

The angels then let me in and Jesus was waiting for me and told me: “Rodolfo my son, welcome to the Kingdom of your God.” When we started to walk, I saw that the streets were of pure gold and I saw a river like crystal, it is real water! I also saw diamonds as ornaments in the streets, a thing over which people kill each other on earth! The Lord then took my hand and told me: “now I am going to show you the temple.” and it was so beautiful. I saw goblets of gold, instruments of gold and I heard a beautiful song and they were children who were singing. The Lord told me that those children were the ones that people rejected on earth but they have life in the kingdom of heaven. Glory to God, hallelujah!

BRIDAL DRESS, WEDDING SUPPER, CROWNS


We continued walking through heaven and I saw a beautiful, humongous white dress decorated in gold and a crown at the top and the Lord told me that it was His church. That it has to be holy and sanctified. The crown is the crown of life that the lord is going to give to the church. When we went out of there, I saw a great line of people. I could see many people dressed in white. I saw two big angels, very elegant countenance and by looking into their eyes, I saw peace, love tenure. One angel said “welcome to the kingdom of your God.” The other angel applauded. I saw people were so happy to be there and now I understand what apostle Paul said that the passing afflictions on earth are nothing compared to the glories awaiting for us in heaven.

The Lord then took me to a place where I saw a long table without end. The table was in gold. The table cloth covering was of gold, goblets of gold, knives and forks in gold, chairs of gold etc… Then I saw big and small crowns and the Lord told me that those big crowns are for His servants, when they come to the wedding of the Lamb. He said “because the wedding of the Lamb is about to start. I am coming soon for my church. Tell them that I am going to pick up my church.”
I asked the Lord“these small crowns, who are they for?”
“Those small crowns are for the people inside the church who live in holiness but they do nothing for the Kingdom. But I tell you, don’t settle for a small crown but work hard for a big one. Work hard for God so that He would give you the reward of life.” The surprising thing was that every chair has a name behind them and nobody else is going to sit in that chair except for that person.

CONDITION OF TODAY’S CHURCH


“Now Rodolfo, I am going to show you the real condition of the church right now”. I saw a little fish praising and worshiping Jesus because the Bible says: Let all that has breath, praise the Lord!

So the Lord showed me the earth where I had to return to preach what I saw. But I had the impression that I had no remembrance of the earth and the Lord gave me the understanding that one who enters into heaven forgets everything that happened to them on earth!. Not so however in hell; everyone who enters there has memories of everything they did on earth, their families, that that they don’t want them to go to hell! That is another torment added to their sufferings. But the one who enters heaven has their mentality changed to a heavenly mind.

Praise the Lord! For that reason, not Peter nor Mary nor Stephen, nor Elisha or John have a memory of what they did on earth; after their earthly lives, they simply don’t know what is happening here. Peter cannot even imagine that the catholic religion adore him or any other saint for that matter. And Jesus said, “there is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved.” That is Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. And Mary said in the Canaan wedding “Do whatever He tells you”. And … worshippers of satan are in the Vatican; they hide all the sinful ways of priests sleeping with nuns; and priests being accused of child molestation and also here in the Dominican Republic…. And the Catholics continue to believe in those lies. (Please also see another Amazing Testimony “Prepare to meet your God – Angelica Zambrano” Parts 1&2 covering more Catholic issues)

MONEY FOCUSED & UNFAITHFUL MINISTERS


Now the Lord started crying when He started to show me the condition of the church. Suddenly I saw a pastor on earth carrying a big suitcase and it was full of money. The Lord told me, ‘These are preachers and evangelists that are getting rich with the offerings because they are preaching lies to my people and letting my people get lost.” I tell you preachers and evangelists, preach Jesus even if you don’t receive tithes and offerings. Sanctify the church!

Suddenly I saw that the money in the suitcase disappeared. I asked the Lord and He told me that “In the same manner his money disappeared, so will he disappear together with the antichrist. But still I have a remnant of my people who are not contaminated.”

I see today how many preachers, pastors, evangelists … are rich and millionaires. However, the members of their church are falling into pieces in poverty, needing food to eat and the pastor is in opulence, not helping them! So many evangelists, multi-millionaires even billionaires in super luxury cars. Where is the Good Samaritan? And I saw many pastors ministering at the altar but I then saw this one pastor finishing ministering that day and leaving his home where his wife was and he left her to meet his lover with whom he lives too!… and she was also a member of his church!

I also saw an evangelist leaving his church and a few blocks away, he went down and saw a prostitute. The same evangelist who was ministering at the altar! Oh, Lord! Please have mercy on us!

UNHOLY ACTS – MASTURBATION


After that the Lord showed me a group of youths of a church that when they leave the church, they went to a dark place because they think that the Lord is not seeing them and they got into that place and they start masturbating and fornicating against their own bodies. And after that, they would go and minister at the altar! Presidents of youths, leaders of the church! (If you need help overcoming this sin, watch this video)

UNHOLY MUSIC IN THE CHURCH


Now the Lord showed me a disco and a church and the Lord told me: “observe well” and I looked and saw that the church just looked like the disco! There was no difference! They had the same sound systems, same music, same equipment that is entering from the world into the church! The world should convert to Christianity but not the other way around. We are bringing the world into the church! Also I have to tell you this: We cannot praise and worship God with Reggaeton, with Bachaton or Rock. Even today there are Christians songs that are being sung to God and then to the world, using the very same words! They don’t mention God but only mention the word ‘love’.

I also saw Rap music and Perreo in the church and that is unacceptable. The Bible says that we must worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness (for true worship see Col 3,16 & John 4, 23-24) ….. Rock is satanic and it was invented in hell. Pastors and evangelists, please get that Cursed music out of the churches!!!

The Lord then showed me the musicians that are so perverted. They are singing in the church on one hand, then they make contracts to sing even in restaurants as private musicians; they go to church to praise the Lord! Let me tell you: that music the Lord doesn’t accepts and please excuse me I must tell you the truth. What is from God is holy and separated for God and God alone. And what those musicians do today, they go, sing at the church, then they disappear from the service, because they look like they are playing to God as a contract, so they think they don’t need to be there for the rest of the service, they leave early. At that moment, the Lord told me “unfortunately, that type of church will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

THE HOLY REMNANT


After that the Lord presented me a group of people, thousands and thousands of people guarding themselves in holiness. I saw for example a sister telling another: “did you eat today? I have a piece of bread in my home.” I saw another carrying a set of shoes to someone that did not have any. I saw others giving strength to those who needed strength. Other knowing the problem of the other, caring and praying for their needs without letting anybody else know. But today, in many churches, there is a lot of gossip because they don’t know how to shut up or be silent about others.

Repent. Today, Jesus Christ wants to give you deliverance and salvation.
He can give you the gift of repentance.

Glory to God!
Praise and worship the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords!
His mercy endures forever.
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Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:23am On Sep 12, 2012
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by justaqad(m): 10:25am On Sep 12, 2012
i cant believe you are on it again.
Thread closed.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:27am On Sep 12, 2012
The black race have a serious religious problem
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by EazyJ(f): 11:12am On Sep 12, 2012
Very touching
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by adaifeoma(f): 11:20am On Sep 12, 2012
My brothers and sisters hell and heaven is real i petty those dat still dought it.if this article is true,then hell is real terrible
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 11:21am On Sep 12, 2012
adaifeoma: My brothers and sisters hell and heaven is real i petty those dat still dought it.if this article is true,then hell is real terrible

My dear you will be disappointed that no hell exists today, hell is a future event.

Read your bible.

thanks
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by adaifeoma(f): 12:47pm On Sep 12, 2012
frosbel:

My dear you will be disappointed that no hell exists today, hell is a future event.

Are u jehova witness.exp to me how hell is a future event,cos is like i dont read my bible

Read your bible.

thanks
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Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by adaifeoma(f): 1:01pm On Sep 12, 2012
frosbel:

My dear you will be disappointed that no hell exists today, hell is a future event.

Read your bible.

thanks
pls exp to me how hell is future event since i dont read my bible
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 4:21pm On Sep 12, 2012
Something is wrong with the black race
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 4:27pm On Sep 12, 2012
adaifeoma:
pls exp to me how hell is future event since i dont read my bible

Try reading the NIV and other bible versions, the word HELL in the KJV in most cases always refers to Hades or the grave.

When we die today , no one goes to heaven or hell , we sleep and await the day of resurrection.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by alexleo(m): 7:28pm On Sep 12, 2012
frosbel:

Try reading the NIV and other bible versions, the word HELL in the KJV in most cases always refers to Hades or the grave.

When we die today , no one goes to heaven or hell , we sleep and await the day of resurrection.

Thats a lie you are preaching here. Dont deceive people with your ignorance. Better be careful. You are already doing the work of a false prophet that you are accusing the poster of.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by adaifeoma(f): 9:06pm On Sep 12, 2012
alexleo:

Thats a lie you are preaching here. Dont deceive people with your ignorance. Better be careful. You are already doing the work of a false prophet that you are accusing the poster of.
my brother abeg tell am.maybe he is a jehova withness
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by ijawkid(m): 10:18pm On Sep 12, 2012
adaifeoma:
my brother abeg tell am.maybe he is a jehova withness

Hahahahahahahhaa...he isn't ..

Frosbel is simply a bible student who has chosen to leave d doctrines of men for the real truth.....

The dogma of billions of persons burning in a furnace is a scam.!!!!!!

Use recent translations and re-enditions and find out if the word Hell is used......
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 11:10pm On Sep 12, 2012
adaifeoma:
my brother abeg tell am.maybe he is a jehova withness

I am not a JW.

1. Besides, can you tell me where in the bible it says that when we die we go to Hell immediately - You will need to back this up with not less than 3 bible verses, 1 on the old testament and 2 in the new testament.

2. Can you also show me in the bible where it says that man is immortal and will live forever either in hell or heaven - You will need to back this up with at least 2 verses .

Thanks
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:44am On Sep 13, 2012
frosbel:

I am not a JW.

1. Besides, can you tell me where in the bible it says that when we die we go to Hell immediately - You will need to back this up with not less than 3 bible verses, 1 on the old testament and 2 in the new testament.

2. Can you also show me in the bible where it says that man is immortal and will live forever either in hell or heaven - You will need to back this up with at least 2 verses .

Thanks

With these kind of questions don't you realise that you are standing precariously on a slippery slope?

Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by adaifeoma(f): 7:13am On Sep 13, 2012
frosbel:

I am not a JW.

1. Besides, can you tell me where in the bible it says that when we die we go to Hell immediately - You will need to back this up with not less than 3 bible verses, 1 on the old testament and 2 in the new testament.

2. Can you also show me in the bible where it says that man is immortal and will live forever either in hell or heaven - You will need to back this up with at least 2 verses .

Thanks
i first asked u a question u didnt even backed it up with any bible verse now u want me to back my own and moreover have forgotten i dont read my bible ask u claim.my dear wakr up yo reality o
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:57pm On Sep 13, 2012
frosbel:

My dear you will be disappointed that no hell exists today, hell is a future event.

Read your bible.

thanks

Would it not be better to be disappointed that hell doesn't exist than to be shocked that it exists when it's too late?

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Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Fr0sbel: 2:05pm On Sep 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

Would it not be better to be disappointed that hell doesn't exist than to be shocked that it exists when it's too late?

The gospel of Jesus is not HELL !!!

The gospel of Jesus is not FEAR !!!

The gospel of Jesus is the good news about the kingdom of GOD.

You can read my latest article at my blog on the true gospel of Christ.


Jesus Christ came to invite us into this new kingdom through repentance from our sins and denying ourselves in this temporary life , to help win more converts into the kingdom of GOD.

"He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation." - Mark 16:15

Yes the lake of fire is real but it is for the eradication of all evil from this planet, it is not the will of God that anyone should perish.

Your false gospel of fear will get us nowhere.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:47pm On Sep 13, 2012
Fr0sbel:

The gospel of Jesus is not HELL !!!

The gospel of Jesus is not FEAR !!!

The gospel of Jesus is the good news about the kingdom of GOD.

You can read my latest article at my blog on the true gospel of Christ.


Jesus Christ came to invite us into this new kingdom through repentance from our sins and denying ourselves in this temporary life , to help win more converts into the kingdom of GOD.

"He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation." - Mark 16:15

Yes the lake of fire is real but it is for the eradication of all evil from this planet, it is not the will of God that anyone should perish.

Your false gospel of fear will get us nowhere.

It seems that you have not heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, He said:

"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear him" (Luke 12:4-5).

You can see here that it is impossible for man to kill soul and spirit which are immortal. The worse man can do is to put the body into the grave after killing it but God alone can cast into hell and Him alone should we fear.

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Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:27pm On Sep 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

It seems that you have not heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, He said:

"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear him" (Luke 12:4-5).

You can see here that it is impossible for man to kill soul and spirit which are immortal. The worse man can do is to put the body into the grave after killing it but God alone can cast into hell and Him alone should we fear.

You are so so confused my dear.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell - Matthew 10:28

"They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power" - 2 Thessalonians 1:9

So according to deeper life 'destruction' means everlasting fire and mortal means immortal. I can't help you .
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:50pm On Sep 13, 2012
frosbel:

You are so so confused my dear.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell - Matthew 10:28

"They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power" - 2 Thessalonians 1:9

So according to deeper life 'destruction' means everlasting fire and mortal means immortal. I can't help you .

How do you think? If man cannot destroy your soul what does that mean? God has the power to cast souls into hell and that doesn't mean the grave.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 11:09pm On Sep 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

How do you think? If man cannot destroy your soul what does that mean? God has the power to cast souls into hell and that doesn't mean the grave.

But what hell fire is this , if not the lake of fire which does not happen until judgement takes place.

"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death." - Revelation 20:14

So here we see God casting sinners into the lake of fire for their final and irreversible death , which is why it is called DEATH and not everlasting torture.

Let us assume that it is everlasting torture if this rocks your boat, what does this verse below mean that categorically states that even DEATH itself will be destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

So how can second DEATH mean forever if DEATH itself is destroyed.

I rest my case.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by ijawkid(m): 5:56am On Sep 14, 2012
frosbel:

But what hell fire is this , if not the lake of fire which does not happen until judgement takes place.

"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death." - Revelation 20:14

So here we see God casting sinners into the lake of fire for their final and irreversible death , which is why it is called DEATH and not everlasting torture.

Let us assume that it is everlasting torture if this rocks your boat, what does this verse below mean that categorically states that even DEATH itself will be destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

So how can second DEATH mean forever if DEATH itself is destroyed.

I rest my case.

GOod explanation....

Ola seems to love hell fire a lot even when it doesn't make any sense.....

@ola.....

Answer the question just asked....

If lake of fire is secon death and in that lake of fire satÀn,death,Hell(hades) and wicked persons will be thrown into it what does that tell u about d fire ??

Literal or symbolic??

Frosbel just did a gOod job by quoting 1 corinthians where it says death would be destroyed.......

If death wuld be destroyed when thrown into d lake of fire and not. Been tormented. Forever,why would it be a different case when it comes to wicked humans??...


Lake of fire signifies Total destruction/everlasting destruction.......

""DESTRUCTION""


Oboy leave church doctrine and embrace real fresh truths from d bible.....
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by frank317: 8:13am On Sep 14, 2012
Hello, Mr. Frosbel,
I have been readin u post. U are makin sense but I want to know what Jesus Christ meant wen he said sometin about cutting or plucking of ur eye if it will lead u to hell, that it is bettr to go to heaven wit one eye that enter hell wit two eyes. Doest that shows how dangerous hell will be?
Again he talked about hell being a place of torment, where sinners will gnashing their teeth, where the worms die not, a place where the fire quenchet not. What does all these mean?
Sorry I am not a strong bible student and couldt quote the verse where all these were quoted. Pls explain to me. Thanks.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Godtosin(m): 8:54am On Sep 14, 2012
May The Lord open the eyes of those in darkness infact denominations will lead many to HELL!

They know the truth but they neglect it, if there is no hell or paradise after death why did Jesus said to the thief on the cross

"and Jesus said unto him verily i say unto thee to day shalt thou be with me in paradise" luke 23:46 and also we read in the book of revelation that death and hell was cast into the lake of fire

"and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire this is the second death" revelation 20:14 second death here simply means the second phase of destruction the first place is hell fire where the soul of a sinner go straight after death just like that of the rich man in the story of rich man and lazarus

This is the truth weather you believe it or not THE TRUTH STILL REMAIN THE TRUTH
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 9:46am On Sep 14, 2012
Godtosin: May The Lord open the eyes of those in darkness infact denominations will lead many to HELL!

They know the truth but they neglect it, if there is no hell or paradise after death why did Jesus said to the thief on the cross

"and Jesus said unto him verily i say unto thee to day shalt thou be with me in paradise" luke 23:46 and also we read in the book of revelation that death and hell was cast into the lake of fire

First of all , the thieve was not with Jesus that same day because Jesus died and so did the thieve and they went to hades which is the grave.

Considering that the original languages did not have punctuations, the statement should read like this .

"and Jesus said unto him verily i say unto thee to day , shalt thou be with me in paradise" luke 23:46


It's like me saying to you , I tell you today you shall be heir to my throne. This does not mean that you will me my heir immediately.

Besides what is paradise ? Paradise is the restored new heaven and new earth which does not even exist as we speak.



About your second point, of course sinners will be punished and thrown into the lake of fire, but for what purpose ?

Mark the words death and hell were cast into the lake of fire , hell here stands for hades or the grave in better translations .

Also one point we keep missing is that the sea also gave up the dead which were in it, so all those dead either on land in the grave or in the sea will be given up to a final destruction in the lake of fire or HELL.



"and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire this is the second death" revelation 20:14 second death here simply means the second phase of destruction the first place is hell fire where the soul of a sinner go straight after death just like that of the rich man in the story of rich man and lazaruS

Nobody goes to hell or heaven after they die , it is not in the bible, if it is please show me.

Remember the story about the rich man and Lazarus was a parable, if it was a real story then please tell me the name of the rich man. And how come this man in hell still has bodily functionality if it was a soul burning ?

We have to be careful and not get emotional about these things just because false teachers have been going on and on about it for decades.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 9:50am On Sep 14, 2012
frank3.16:
Hello, Mr. Frosbel,
I have been readin u post. U are makin sense but I want to know what Jesus Christ meant wen he said sometin about cutting or plucking of ur eye if it will lead u to hell, that it is bettr to go to heaven wit one eye that enter hell wit two eyes. Doest that shows how dangerous hell will be?
Again he talked about hell being a place of torment, where sinners will gnashing their teeth, where the worms die not, a place where the fire quenchet not. What does all these mean?
Sorry I am not a strong bible student and couldt quote the verse where all these were quoted. Pls explain to me. Thanks.

If we sin we will be destroyed in our entirety in the lake of fire or hell.

This punishment and the ensuing destruction is going to be terrible and there will indeed be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Besides tell me what is the purpose in reserving billions of human beings to be roasted over fire for endless eternity , let us be careful otherwise we begin to portray God as a monster.

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Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:03am On Sep 14, 2012
frosbel:

But what hell fire is this , if not the lake of fire which does not happen until judgement takes place.

"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death." - Revelation 20:14

So here we see God casting sinners into the lake of fire for their final and irreversible death , which is why it is called DEATH and not everlasting torture.

Let us assume that it is everlasting torture if this rocks your boat, what does this verse below mean that categorically states that even DEATH itself will be destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

So how can second DEATH mean forever if DEATH itself is destroyed.

I rest my case.

Tell me why we need to fear Him who is able to cast our souls and spirits into hell if hell only means annihilation? Afterall when we die we don't suffer pain any longer.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:15am On Sep 14, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

Tell me why we need to fear Him who is able to cast our souls and spirits into hell if hell only means annihilation? Afterall when we die we don't suffer pain any longer.

My goodness, why are you so concerned about pain , torment , torture etc.

Is the lake of fire not enough for you people

Even after God says he will destroy sinners, you are still telling him it is not enough , they need to burn forever.

Are you serving God out or fear of LOVE.

And who told you we have our own spirits, do you know that spirit in the original language simply means breath or wind, in this case the breath of God.

It is this breath that makes us a living soul.

so spirit + body = living soul.

This nonsense about soul , spirit and the immortal connotations are straight out of Greek pagan mythology.
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:17am On Sep 14, 2012
The idea of an “immortal soul” predates the founding of today’s major religions. The ancient Egyptians believed that the soul of man is separable from the body, and immortal. This Egyptian idea emerged centuries before Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam were established.

The pagan Greeks adopted the concept of an immortal soul from the Egyptians. The Athenian philosopher Plato (428-348 B.C.), a pupil of Socrates, popularized this new concept of an “immortal soul” throughout the Greek culture.

The ancient Jewish communities were deeply influenced by Greek philosophical ideas. In the Jewish Encyclopedia’s article “Immortality of the Soul” we read:

“The belief that the soul continues its existence after the dissolution of the body is ... nowhere expressly taught in Holy Scripture. … The belief in the immortality of the soul came to the Jews from contact with Greek thought and chiefly through the philosophy of Plato its principle exponent.”

The early Christian Fathers—Justin Martyr, Tatian, Athenagoras, Theophulus, Irenaeus, and Polycrates—denied the conscious state of the dead, and the eternal misery of the wicked. However, many of the early theologians, including Origen, Tertullian, and Augustine, were closely associated with Platonism. The influences of pagan Platonic philosophy on Origen and Augustine are profound. Philosopher and cultural historian Richard Tarnas, Jr., emphasizes this influence:

“It was Augustine’s formulation of Christian Platonism that was to permeate virtually all of medieval Christian thought in the West. So enthusiastic was the Christian integration of the Greek spirit that Socrates and Plato were frequently regarded as divinely inspired pre-Christian saints.”—The Passion of the Western Mind, 1991, p. 103.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God; it is not “produced” by the parents. It is immortal, that is, it does not perish when it separates from the body at death. At the moment of death, a soul goes either to purgatory, heaven, or hell, and it will be reunited with the body at the final resurrection.

The Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox views are similar. They believe that after death, the soul is judged individually by God, and then sent to either “Abraham’s bosom” (temporary paradise) or hades/hell (temporary torture). At the last judgment, God judges all who have ever lived. Those deemed righteous go to heaven (permanent paradise), while the damned experience the “Lake of Fire” (permanent torture). The Orthodox Church does not teach that purgatory exists. Most Protestant denominations have similar beliefs.

Does the Bible actually teach that man has an immortal or undying soul? A logical first step to answer this question would be to examine every text in the Bible, that use the terms “immortal soul” or “undying soul.” This is quickly accomplished since neither expression is found in the Bible. Consider then Scriptures with the words “soul” or “immortal.”

http://www.heraldmag.org/2011/11mj_3.htm
Re: Testimony Of HEAVEN & HELL by Nobody: 10:27am On Sep 14, 2012
Body, Soul, and Spirit

Saying the soul is immortal makes God a liar since he told Adam if he ate of the tree he would die (Genesis 2:17). Satan told Eve she would not die (Genesis 3:4). If the soul is immortal, Adam did not die since his soul must live forever.

If the soul is immortal, and consciousness continues after death, why did Jesus say, “Lazarus sleepeth” (John 11:11) as if he were merely unconscious? He was dead four days (vs. 39). Surely Jesus would not have retrieved Lazarus from the bliss of heaven.

If the doctrine of the immortality of the soul were true, the Bible would contradict itself. Jesus said that the hour is coming when all in their graves will come forth (John 5:28,29). Why bring them forth from the grave if their souls were already in heaven? Would their physical bodies need to be joined to them in heaven? If physical bodies were needed in heaven, how have these presumedly immortal souls survived without them?

Realizing that the soul is mortal explains why the church can be described as seeking immortality (Romans 2:7). The sleeping, unconscious dead will one day be awakened from their graves (John 5:28,29; Job 14:11-15; Psalm 17:15; Acts 24:15, 16). At that time, “the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). “Many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths” (Micah 4:2). In God’s kingdom on earth, mankind will be raised from the dead and have their first real opportunity to learn God’s ways of righteousness because Satan will be bound and will no longer be able to deceive the world (Revelation 20:3).

http://www.heraldmag.org/2011/11mj_3.htm

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