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2 Threats To Atheist Belief by ProudUSA: 5:04am On Sep 20, 2012
"Two long term threats to the atheist belief in no God are:
1. the belief that humans can one day create artificial life
2. the belief in the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial aliens.
"This would be dangerous because if you believe humans can create artificial life and that there are beings more intelligent than humans then eventually either you or your future descendants will come round to believing in a Supreme Being above all others creating all life.
"Thank God the rest of us are still intelligent enough to appreciate the natural instincts acknowledging a Creator."

- Anonymous
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by MacDaddy01: 6:46am On Sep 20, 2012
Epic fail.


o back to logic 101, boy
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by ProudUSA: 6:53am On Sep 20, 2012
No need to be scared of your belief, son.
grin

No wonder it's said it's logical to assume humans are illogical. A little thinking helps the brain, that's what it's for.
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by MacDaddy01: 7:02am On Sep 20, 2012
ProudUSA: No need to be scared of your belief, son.
grin

No wonder it's said it's logical to assume humans are illogical. A little thinking helps the brain, that's what it's for.



If we ever find aliens (intelligent life) on other planets, then clearly, the god of the Abrahamic religions is quite a fraud.

Aliens would show the bible and Koran to be incomplete as there is no mention of life on other planets. What if the aliens are more intelligent but atheistic? Have you considered that?



If humans can create artificial life, your god becomes less special. He is credited with creating human life (which is a lie if you consider evolution). Creating human life would not be special anymore. Your god wont be special anymore
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by ProudUSA: 9:40am On Sep 20, 2012
MacDaddy01:



If we ever find aliens (intelligent life) on other planets, then clearly, the god of the Abrahamic religions is quite a fraud.

Aliens would show the bible and Koran to be incomplete as there is no mention of life on other planets. What if the aliens are more intelligent but atheistic? Have you considered that?


Actually one of them (probably both) does, look it up.
What if aliens are more intelligent and look for origins of the energies running the universe based on concepts totally impossible to our knowledge of physics and they turn out not to be atheist? It doesn't really matter what they are so long as they also exist as creatures existing within the same confines of our universe.

MacDaddy01:

If humans can create artificial life, your god becomes less special. He is credited with creating human life (which is a lie if
you consider evolution). Creating human life would not be special anymore. Your god wont be special anymore

Creating artificial life actually means you couldn't create the real one. The best we can do is use things already created even right down to atoms, particles and cells. Plus given the statement "God teaches man what man knew not", man would be stuck to having ideas generated time after time in his mind. The theory of evolution like growth of organisms and existence needs something to work - constant change from one state to the next. When you think about it, everything in our universe tends to rely on movement or change from one state to the next. The big question is what is causing all this change, it can't be residual energy from the BigBang because then energy or force from somewhere else needs to have been impacted from yet another source or origin causing the BigBang. It's been baffling scientists for ages (adding to confusing between theories of relativity and quantum physics).

It's human nature to believe in something whether people call it religion or scientific ideas, in the end it winds up to the ultimate end. In the past when someone had the knowledge to do things no-one could understand, it would be called miracles. Today they'd be scientific facts.

So you have your beliefs friend, others have theirs.
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by MacDaddy01: 11:08am On Sep 20, 2012
ProudUSA:

Actually one of them (probably both) does, look it up.
What if aliens are more intelligent and look for origins of the energies running the universe based on concepts totally impossible to our knowledge of physics and they turn out not to be atheist? It doesn't really matter what they are so long as they also exist as creatures existing within the same confines of our universe.



Creating artificial life actually means you couldn't create the real one. The best we can do is use things already created even right down to atoms, particles and cells. Plus given the statement "God teaches man what man knew not", man would be stuck to having ideas generated time after time in his mind. The theory of evolution like growth of organisms and existence needs something to work - constant change from one state to the next. When you think about it, everything in our universe tends to rely on movement or change from one state to the next. The big question is what is causing all this change, it can't be residual energy from the BigBang because then energy or force from somewhere else needs to have been impacted from yet another source or origin causing the BigBang. It's been baffling scientists for ages (adding to confusing between theories of relativity and quantum physics).

It's human nature to believe in something whether people call it religion or scientific ideas, in the end it winds up to the ultimate end. In the past when someone had the knowledge to do things no-one could understand, it would be called miracles. Today they'd be scientific facts.

So you have your beliefs friend, others have theirs.


Lol....you dont sound so confident about your ant-atheist rant again. grin grin



Now, the bible/koran do not mention aliens or intelligent life outside earth. They hardly even mention the 8 planets.

Religion will die as science becomes more advanced
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by MacDaddy01: 11:08am On Sep 20, 2012
ProudUSA:

Actually one of them (probably both) does, look it up.
What if aliens are more intelligent and look for origins of the energies running the universe based on concepts totally impossible to our knowledge of physics and they turn out not to be atheist? It doesn't really matter what they are so long as they also exist as creatures existing within the same confines of our universe.



Creating artificial life actually means you couldn't create the real one. The best we can do is use things already created even right down to atoms, particles and cells. Plus given the statement "God teaches man what man knew not", man would be stuck to having ideas generated time after time in his mind. The theory of evolution like growth of organisms and existence needs something to work - constant change from one state to the next. When you think about it, everything in our universe tends to rely on movement or change from one state to the next. The big question is what is causing all this change, it can't be residual energy from the BigBang because then energy or force from somewhere else needs to have been impacted from yet another source or origin causing the BigBang. It's been baffling scientists for ages (adding to confusing between theories of relativity and quantum physics).

It's human nature to believe in something whether people call it religion or scientific ideas, in the end it winds up to the ultimate end. In the past when someone had the knowledge to do things no-one could understand, it would be called miracles. Today they'd be scientific facts.

So you have your beliefs friend, others have theirs.


Lol....you dont sound so confident about your ant-atheist rant again. grin grin



Now, the bible/koran do not mention aliens or intelligent life outside earth. They hardly even mention the 8 planets.

Religion will die as science becomes more advanced
Re: 2 Threats To Atheist Belief by mkmyers45(m): 1:50pm On Sep 20, 2012
ProudUSA: "Two long term threats to the atheist belief in no God are:
1. the belief that humans can one day create artificial life
2. the belief in the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial aliens.

"This would be dangerous because if you believe humans can create artificial life and that there are beings more intelligent than humans then eventually either you or your future descendants will come round to believing in a Supreme Being above all others creating all life.
"Thank God the rest of us are still intelligent enough to appreciate the natural instincts acknowledging a Creator."

- Anonymous


I think the topic should be...WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO RELIGION IF THESE TWO ARE DISCOVERED?

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