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| How Is Jesus Son Of David? by seekingtruth(m): 12:34am On Sep 22, 2012 |
How come Jesus who hasn't Joseph's blood in his veins son of David? Why is Mary the woman whose blood runs in Jesus' veins lineage isn't recorded in the bible ? |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by CrazyMan(m): 1:25am On Sep 22, 2012 |
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| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by CrazyMan(m): 1:25am On Sep 22, 2012 |
[b] Matthew 1:1-17. This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: 2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar, Perez the father of Hezron, Hezron the father of Ram, 4 Ram the father of Amminadab, Amminadab the father of Nahshon, Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab, Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth, Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of King David. David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife, 7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah, Abijah the father of Asa, 8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram, Jehoram the father of Uzziah, 9 Uzziah the father of Jotham, Jotham the father of Ahaz, Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, 10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, Manasseh the father of Amon, Amon the father of Josiah, 11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon. 12 After the exile to Babylon: Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel, Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, 13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud, Abihud the father of Eliakim, Eliakim the father of Azor, 14 Azor the father of Zadok, Zadok the father of Akim, Akim the father of Elihud, 15 Elihud the father of Eleazar, Eleazar the father of Matthan, Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah. 17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah. [/b] Do you now understand that Jesus and David are from the same blood line... |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 5:43am On Sep 22, 2012 |
Jesus took his human nature from Mary who is descended from the clan of David.That is his only link with David |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by frank317: 7:38am On Sep 22, 2012 |
CrazyMan: [b] Matthew 1:1-17. This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: Joseph aNd Jesus have no relationship by blood, rmember Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus. Joseph is just an adopted father of Jesus. I was xpecting u to give a history of marys lineage. 4 Likes |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by frank317: 7:40am On Sep 22, 2012 |
chukwudi44: Jesus took his human nature from Mary who is descended from the clan of David.That is his only link with David tht means Mary and Joseph are both decendants of David? |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by homaticaya(m): 4:34pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
Why give him a false lineage, That's his step father for god sake, Afterol u say he's the son of "Your god", why not start from the Forefathers of "your god" and so on. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Bella3(f): 8:31pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
CrazyMan: [b] Matthew 1:1-17. This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:i have to disagre with you. From the verse 16, it shows there wasnt any ties apart from marriage to His mother. The people who refered to Jesus as son of David where those who knew him from the house of joseph and normaly would asume he was his son.. 1 Like |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 9:28pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
joseph and mary were most likely from the same clan, or tribe, and therefore probably shared the same lineage. so, mary's genealogy would be more or less the same as joseph's own. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by mkmyers45(m): 9:48pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
tpia@:Are you suggesting Incest? |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by frank317: 9:59pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
tpia@: Most likely? Wow u have been very helpful. U are suggesting we shuld form a belife baised on "most likely"? How assuring 2 Likes |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 11:48pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
mkmyers45: Are you suggesting Incest? i did not say they're from the same family. i said they possibly have the same genealogy. "same clan or tribe" not sure how you're translating that. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 11:48pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
frank3.16: you're welcome to do your own research and either prove or disprove my post. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by seekingtruth(m): 9:02pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
CrazyMan: [b] Matthew 1:1-17. This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by seekingtruth(m): 9:44pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
@Crazyman... If I were u I wuld omit verse 6. Now tell me if u were Jesus wuld u have chosen to come from David's house who killed a man (Uriah) n took his wife? Your quotation didn't mention Mary's maiden name. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
Lets face the fact about the bible and its relation to women: ''the bible teaches that women brought sin and death to this world, that she precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgement seat of heaven, tried, condemned,and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a condition of bondage, martenity a period of suffering and anguish, and in silence and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man's bounty for all her material wants, and for all the information she might desire... Here is the bible's position of a woman briefly sumed up'' Elizabeth Cady Stanto Lets be true to ourselves, any true and diligent follower of the bible will always regard a woman as a second hand being, not worthy of many things. Even the great apostle Paul said that it WAS A SHAME FOR A WOMAN TO PREACH BEFORE MEN. And pls dont give me that crap like ''it was in the old times'' because u are diminishing the status of ur omnipotent and omnipresent God(who is refered to as a HE) and ur most ACCURATE and UP TO DATE bible. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Areaboy2(m): 11:34pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
Its always a good comic relief to watch Christians frantically trying to defend the confusion in their faith. While ending up looking even more silly than the question at hand  |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by olu4life(m): 12:10am On Sep 24, 2012 |
My fellow brothers in Christ, desist from replying peeps that still dont understand cos it will lead down to arguement and anger. U all have tried to explain but they arent willing to accept,its only God that can touch their heart cos some has a REPROBATE MIND. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by EvilBrain1(m): 2:12am On Sep 24, 2012 |
olu4life: My fellow brothers in Christ, desist from replying peeps that still dont understand cos it will lead down to arguement and anger. U all have tried to explain but they arent willing to accept,its only God that can touch their heart cos some has a REPROBATE MIND. What exactly have you explained? According to the bible, Jesus and Joseph weren't related by blood and nothing you people have said has explained how Jesus came to acquire Joseph's genealogy. Tpia's suggestion that Mary and Joseph were related is nonsense. Matthew chapter 1 clearly and unambiguously traces Jesus's ancestry though Joseph, so unless he and his wife were brother and sister, it falls down flat. Tpia is literally making stuff up, while olu4life is pretending as if OP is being unreasonable for questioning something that clearly makes no sense. You Christians need to do better at defending your religion. I'm not impressed by your responses here at all. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 3:56am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Area_boy: Its always a good comic relief to watch Christians frantically trying to defend the confusion in their faith. While ending up looking even more silly than the question at hand you're the one sounding confused and clueless actually. so, the joke's on you for your zero cognition.  |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 4:01am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Evil Brain: where did i say mary and joseph were related? as was pointed out previously, there's really no point engaging you smartasses in discussion, but occasionally i post just in response to what i assume is a serious question. Although more often than not, its simply a troll doing what they're being paid to do. one can certainly not prevent you "hawks" from descending on any comment that tasks your brain (ie what you call one),but that doesnt mean your attention is or was welcomed? dont mistake my civility as fishing for your attention? as per your lack of comprehension here, do you know the meaning of tribe, and in your own tribe, is everybody related? very hard arguing with boneheads i tell you. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Ptolomeus(m): 4:46am On Sep 24, 2012 |
The patriarch is Abraham Jesus is the son d Abraham, David, and other Jewish adulterers. my respects 1 Like |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 4:53am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Jesus in human terms could be called a bastard. Joseph wasn't his real father according to the bible scroll. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 5:08am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah. 42 generations listed, and some people still have a problem wrapping their heads around this. duh. "are they related". geez.  |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 5:14am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Mary's genealogy is given in luke.She is also descended from the clan of david |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by tpia5: 5:22am On Sep 24, 2012 |
imo, this isnt rocket science. back in those days there were no airplanes, internet, automobiles or postal service to facilitate globalization and long distance relationship. people generally tended to stay in the localities where they were born and raised, and also married within the same. Geographical location = tribal/ancestral connections and affiliation, duh. exceptions were during times of war, emigration or some other reason that resulted in mass movement of people. Also, royalty on occasion. The couple in question were not living in a foreign land like in the case of Isaac [who btw still married from his own clan even though he had to bring his wife from a long distance]. at one point in time, the tribe of benjamin had to seek special permission to marry brides who were from other tribes in Israel- this is one example of the strictness of the social setup in Jewish culture. if you have reasonable and non-i.diotic arguments against any of the above, let's hear it. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Ptolomeus(m): 5:25am On Sep 24, 2012 |
chukwudi44: Mary's genealogy is given in luke.She is also descended from the clan of david Jesus was a Jew, he just wanted to change the Jewish religion; sort sacrifices and burnt offerings, and finish with the priests who profited from religion (like today and Nigeria). Abraham (the great adulterer) is the patriarch of the Jewish people. It is not a matter of tribes but lineage. The Jews no doubt about that holdings. See you on google, is the simplest. My respects. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Joagbaje(m): 6:35am On Sep 24, 2012 |
seeking@truth: Mary also came from David. That's why he was called the seed of the woman. Why is Mary the woman whose blood runs in Jesus' veins lineage isn't recorded in the bible ?[/quote] Not really so. Jesus only got a body from mary, the blood of Jesus didn't come from Mary. The blood of a child doesnt come from the mother . The holy ghost overshadowed mary to produce Jesus , he was a child of the holy ghost . If Jesus blood came from Mary it would have een i Possible for God ro accept jesus blood for sacrifice because Mary was a fallen sinner since her blood is from the fallen Adam. The bloodof jesus was pure from adamic sin , it was pure. It wasnt a fallen blood . |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 8:56am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Joagbaje: Oga joe please does the holy ghost have blood?stop spewing trash here.Jesus was made up of two natures;human and divine his human nature including his flesh and blood were sourced from his mother mary. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 9:03am On Sep 24, 2012 |
[/quote] The blood of a child doesnt come from the mother .[quote] Oga joe please this is elementary biology.The child is a genetic make up of both parents.That's the more reason whila AS should not marry AS or SS. In this case the other parent here was not human and thus did not impart any human attribute to him.His divine nature has always existed from the begining but was only infused with his human nature in the womb of Mary |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Joagbaje(m): 9:31am On Sep 24, 2012 |
chukwudi44: Where did Adam get his blood from? That's where Jesus got his blood from. And that is why he is called the last Adam 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. . His blood was neutra .Why did God have to go through the complicated long process of virgin birth etc? If Jesus blood had been from fallen adam , anybody would have died for us. A little baby could have been slaughtered to appease God. But all have sinned . Even the little bany is a sinner. Mary also had the fallen nature through Adam . Jesus must have a pure blood , neutral from sin just as Adam used to be before his fall. John 14:30 . . . the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. |
| Re: How Is Jesus Son Of David? by Nobody: 9:42am On Sep 24, 2012 |
The bible explicitly states that Adam got his nature from dust but that was not same with Jesus who was said to have been a descendant of David meaning he was born by one of David's descendants and not by dust. |
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