Update:

I think there's bad news. I just got an email from the embassy. "The Finnish Immigration service has decided on your revocation issue and they have sent the decision to the embassy. This decision is in Finnish Language and they also sent instructions to appeal.
According to the email, they can't disclose the content of the decision, and they can't mail it to me. I have to be at the embassy in Person to collect it".

I just dey look since. I can't think of anything. I don't want to be pessimistic but this doesn't look good. Make I book my flight to Abuja. I have tried my best. To be honest, I did everything the right way. Money in my account, very good statement, my interview went well, and up till now, there's still 1.8m naira in the account. The insurance certificate was the only issue and it wasn't my fault. I simply went to the insurance company and submitted what they gave me. The whole Finnish Immigration sucks.

That's all.

I'm thinking: If the decision is positive, they would have just sent the whole stuff to me plus the RP card using the "return courier service" I pre-paid for. For them to say I have to be there by myself and also that they included instructions for appeal, It's just pointing towards something not very good.

With all this said, Do you think I should sue the insurance company for damages?

1. This whole thing is their fault
2. They acknowledged that they issued my insurance certificate from an alternative portal, because their main portal was down on the day I came to get the insurance insurance that's why the insurance certificate I submitted looked different from what they had.

As per say na Naija, I don't know if this is a case worth pursuing.

pls b optimistic. go there first n receive gud news

yours is a special case bro. you cant just conclude like that. even those that were denied were not told to come. so keep your fingers crossed till you get there on monday.

sureb0y:
I'm thinking: If the decision is positive, they would have just sent the whole stuff to me plus the RP card using the "return courier service" I pre-paid for. For them to say I have to be there by myself and also that they included instructions for appeal, It's just pointing towards something not very good.

With all this said, Do you think I should sue the insurance company for damages?

1. This whole thing is their fault
2. They acknowledged that they issued my insurance certificate from an alternative portal, because their main portal was down on the day I came to get the insurance insurance that's why the insurance certificate I submitted looked different from what they had.

As per say na Naija, I don't know if this is a case worth pursuing.

ooluseyipa:


Lautech shldn't be diffcult. Becos they will get ur transcript d way u want it. I will advice u to get some @ d transcript office. The only barrier is official envelope. But u can liase wth anybody @ d student affair. The official envelope is very important.

pls bro, i will still need ur help abt d transcript stuff from lautech.

sammie90:

bro please what is the maximum allowed kg for turkish airline both for main luggage and hand luggage too. I'm asking because I'm also flying Turkish air and I'm not too certain what their normal kg allowance is. please help me throw more light on it.

MAX, 23Kg 2pc. check in
8kg hand
plus 1 laptop bag

Obiwannn:
MAX, 23Kg 2pc. check in
8kg hand
plus 1 laptop bag

thank u very much bro. so if I'm right it means I'm allowed to carry 23kg bag two of it. I mean two 23kg bags plus another 8kg bag den another laptop bag. please hope I'm right?
thank u once again.

sammie90:

thank u very much bro. so if I'm right it means I'm allowed to carry 23kg bag two of it. I mean two 23kg bags plus another 8kg bag den another laptop bag. please hope I'm right?
thank u once again.

I carried 2 boxes of about 48kg
Laptop bag wasnt weighed
Cabin luggage wasnt weighed

sammie90:

thank u very much bro. so if I'm right it means I'm allowed to carry 23kg bag two of it. I mean two 23kg bags plus another 8kg bag den another laptop bag. please hope I'm right?
thank u once again.

ya...right

Obiwannn:
I carried 2 boxes of about 48kg Laptop bag wasnt weighed Cabin luggage wasnt weighed

Thank u so very much bro that just about settles it bro....

Inufele1:


What program are you going for? Do you have any offer from HOAS? I am going to Helsinki too

English Philology bro. Well, i am yet to get an offer. Have you got yet? What prog is yours? What are your plans as regards the accommodation?

Dear Sir/Ma,
Concerning the revocation of my residence permit, I just got back from the Embassy of Finland in Abuja. Although, I have received the decision, it's in Finnish Language. I asked for an explanation of the whole thing to be translated to me, I was told to contact you for an English version as no one would translate it to me at the Embassy. I got a fairly accurate translation using google translate and I must state here that I found the whole decision and reasons for refusal unbelievable.I am guessing I got the wrong translation.

It was stated that I DELIBERATELY tried to con my way around the system and use dubious means to secure the residence permit and after investigations at the Embassy in Abuja, you decided to revoke the residence permit.

1. Are you revoking my permit because you do not accept insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc? if yes, why did the embassy of finland recommend the company?
2. Do you accept insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc but revoked because you think I sent a forged version? if yes. Did the authentication by the said company mean anything at all? They contacted the embassy of Finland numerous times to let them know THEY issued the insurance certificate. I would like to know how this is my fault. You wrote the decision in Finnish.

The law was to get an insurance policy which would pay 30,000 euros for health related issues, the same insurance policy was to be from the ONLY TWO ACCEPTED INSURANCE COMPANIES IN NIGERIA (according to what was sent to me from the Embassy of Finland, Please see attachment). Now you are saying you do NOT accept that kind of insurance policy? When you were the ones who instructed me to bring THAT insurance policy?

I was told: we're considering revoking your residence permit because we think it did not come from Mutual Benefits Assurance PLC (we accept mutual benefits insurance certificates, but we don't think this one came from them), prove to us that this insurance policy came from them and you're good to go. After the proofs came through, the refusal letter stated that you're revoking the residence permit because you do not accept that kind of insurance policy (meaning you are not accepting insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc?).

I believe I have a right to know what the refusal letter was all about, please send an English version as I believe I was not judged fairly. I would like to go ahead with an appeal.

Sincerely,
Me

Update.

I sent this to Migri last night after seeing the refusal letter. According to the refusal letter which I translated in English Language, they revoked the RP because section 58 n 4 of their law states that they have the right to revoke a granted RP if later discovered that the applicant used a document that would have made dem deny the application in the first place.
They said: Embassy contacted u and informed you about the revocation and told you to clarify the issue. You clarified the issue and said indeed the certificate is genuine. Our representative in Abuja Embassy contacted the German consulate, an expert in this case, to know if the certificate is original or not. It was the German who pronounced the certificate unacceptable hence the revocation.

If u read this well and the letter I sent to them, u would see the crap. First it wasn't about whether the insurance certificate was acceptable or not. It was whether I brought d original or replica. Now they're saying I brought a certificate that's not approved. They're blaming ME. That I deliberately did it. When they were the ones who instructed me to go to Mutual Benefits Assurance PLC.

Madness.

sureb0y:
Update.

I sent this to Migri last night after seeing the refusal letter. According to the refusal letter which I translated in English Language, they revoked the RP because section 58 n 4 of their law states that they have the right to revoke a granted RP if later discovered that the applicant used a document that would have made dem deny the application in the first place.
They said: Embassy contacted u and informed you about the revocation and told you to clarify the issue. You clarified the issue and said indeed the certificate is genuine. Our representative in Abuja Embassy contacted the German consulate, an expert in this case, to know if the certificate is original or not. It was the German who pronounced the certificate unacceptable hence the revocation.

If u read this well and the letter I sent to them, u would see the crap. First it wasn't about whether the insurance certificate was acceptable or not. It was whether I brought d original or replica. Now they're saying I brought a certificate that's not approved. They're blaming ME. That I deliberately did it. When they were the ones who instructed me to go to Mutual Benefits Assurance PLC.

Madness.

Bro,
Like we discussed yesterday, make a fresh application. You have a genuine cause of action to sue mutual and the embassy of Finland,however whatever case you are instituting will take nothing less than 3 years to determine and the losing party can appeal. Again, consider the cost of action, you will spend a lot in legal fees and charges...unless you wanna be a hero who successfuly battled the government of Finland and Mutual Company, but if you want a quicker resolution, get an insurance from Aico, make a fresh application. Once you are granted the RP, go ahead and sue Mutual for giving you a certificate different from the usual one they give people and also joining the embassy as a nominal party. My humble opinion though. Best of luck bro.

It's a pity no one advised you against sending several emails to the embassy then, and if someone had done that I'm sure you wouldn't listen to voice of reason. If you had known the Finnish way of doing things, you'd have sat back and relaxed and wait till the embassy takes its time. Your several emails to them shows an act of desperation, granting you a permit is a privilege and not a right.

i stand to be corrected but this doesnt seem right. talking about finnish way of doing things, then u'll know you have to remind them often. so sir, this is technically wrong. a student resuming in september cannot be considered to be desperate for asking for the decision. granting a permit is never a privilege. it is your right!

enitan2002:
It's a pity no one advised you against sending several emails to the embassy then, and if someone had done that I'm sure you wouldn't listen to voice of reason. If you had known the Finnish way of doing things, you'd have sat back and relaxed and wait till the embassy takes its time. Your several emails to them shows an act of desperation, granting you a permit is a privilege and not a right.

Gutted to hear this bro. and even worse to know that appeal decision can take a long time. you should contact your department to know the latest day you can resume, if u have enough time, u can reapply, if not consider deferring your admission if you have that option

sureb0y:
Dear Sir/Ma,
Concerning the revocation of my residence permit, I just got back from the Embassy of Finland in Abuja. Although, I have received the decision, it's in Finnish Language. I asked for an explanation of the whole thing to be translated to me, I was told to contact you for an English version as no one would translate it to me at the Embassy. I got a fairly accurate translation using google translate and I must state here that I found the whole decision and reasons for refusal unbelievable.I am guessing I got the wrong translation.

It was stated that I DELIBERATELY tried to con my way around the system and use dubious means to secure the residence permit and after investigations at the Embassy in Abuja, you decided to revoke the residence permit.

1. Are you revoking my permit because you do not accept insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc? if yes, why did the embassy of finland recommend the company?
2. Do you accept insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc but revoked because you think I sent a forged version? if yes. Did the authentication by the said company mean anything at all? They contacted the embassy of Finland numerous times to let them know THEY issued the insurance certificate. I would like to know how this is my fault. You wrote the decision in Finnish.

The law was to get an insurance policy which would pay 30,000 euros for health related issues, the same insurance policy was to be from the ONLY TWO ACCEPTED INSURANCE COMPANIES IN NIGERIA (according to what was sent to me from the Embassy of Finland, Please see attachment). Now you are saying you do NOT accept that kind of insurance policy? When you were the ones who instructed me to bring THAT insurance policy?

I was told: we're considering revoking your residence permit because we think it did not come from Mutual Benefits Assurance PLC (we accept mutual benefits insurance certificates, but we don't think this one came from them), prove to us that this insurance policy came from them and you're good to go. After the proofs came through, the refusal letter stated that you're revoking the residence permit because you do not accept that kind of insurance policy (meaning you are not accepting insurance certificates from mutual benefits assurance plc?).

I believe I have a right to know what the refusal letter was all about, please send an English version as I believe I was not judged fairly. I would like to go ahead with an appeal.

Sincerely,
Me

sirkezman:
Gutted to hear this bro. and even worse to know that appeal decision can take a long time. you should contact your department to know the latest day you can resume, if u have enough time, u can reapply, if not consider deferring your admission if you have that option

I'm considering re-applying. I don't know if I've been banned or not. It wasn't stated. I don't know if I should just lock up and move on with my life. @dondaddycares suggested a fresh application while there's still time. I'm seriously considering his argument, it makes sense. What do u think? To lock up or re-apply? Give reasons please.

sureb0y:


I'm considering re-applying. I don't know if I've been banned or not. It wasn't stated. I don't know if I should just lock up and move on with my life. @dondaddycares suggested a fresh application while there's still time. I'm seriously considering his argument, it makes sense. What do u think? To lock up or re-apply? Give reasons please.

My chairman, whatever happens to man must always have reasons and I believe it's the will of God. Lemme let you know that I have been following your story from the time u scored so high in ur ielts till this moment but it's so disheartening the way your story turned out to be. My own take on this issue is that you should forget Finland and move on to germany. With your high score in ielts and your good GP, I believe it's going to be very easy for you to gain admission. Also, germany is far far better than Finland and that's why GOD doesn't want you to settle for less. Come to think of it, upon all the perfection in your application and other things, you still couldn't make it to Finland. My brother, Finland is too small for you. Think about it bro.
Yours sincerely,
Concern friend

oladunwo:

My chairman, whatever happens to man must always have reasons and I believe it's the will of God. Lemme let you know that I have been following your story from the time u scored so high in ur ielts till this moment but it's so disheartening the way your story turned out to be. My own take on this issue is that you should forget Finland and move on to germany. With your high score in ielts and your good GP, I believe it's going to be very easy for you to gain admission. Also, germany is far far better than Finland and that's why GOD doesn't want you to settle for less. Come to think of it, upon all the perfection in your application and other things, you still couldn't make it to Finland. My brother, Finland is too small for you. Think about it bro.
Yours sincerely,
Concern friend

You spoke my mind. One of the reasons i'm following this thread. @surebOy, finland isn't for you brother. Just move on to a more promising country. Would suggest you follow what oladunwo said. With ur GP and ur ielts scores, u shld make it to Germany. Cheer up bruv, its a matter of determination. Abeg, close finland mata, better days ahead. God bless ya.

sureb0y:


I'm considering re-applying. I don't know if I've been banned or not. It wasn't stated. I don't know if I should just lock up and move on with my life. @dondaddycares suggested a fresh application while there's still time. I'm seriously considering his argument, it makes sense. What do u think? To lock up or re-apply? Give reasons please.

Bros my take on this mess is dt u shld reapply. Just reapply and am sure they will consider you. Go to Aico and have another insurance.with that they fasten everything for you.pls do dt.

sureb0y:


I'm considering re-applying. I don't know if I've been banned or not. It wasn't stated. I don't know if I should just lock up and move on with my life. @dondaddycares suggested a fresh application while there's still time. I'm seriously considering his argument, it makes sense. What do u think? To lock up or re-apply? Give reasons please.

It is very important that you appeal this decision and if your documents are genuine ,you will win. Appeal usually takes time but that's only way for. If you decide submit a fresh application without appealing this decision , it will mean that you accept their decision. In other words, that you submitted a fake document previously. That will a reason to deny you again. Another way could be to pursue both at a time. Appealing is not that expensive and you could qualfy for Finnish government legal aid as a student.

Hi,

Hope the 2016 hopefuls are preparing already. I just started the transcript request from my school. Hoping to apply to Aalto (Geoinformatics), University of Helsinki (Urban Environmental Issues) and University of Easter Finland (Environmental Resource). Only Aalto does not use UAF for their admission process meaning extra cost and I read that there will be application fee of 100 euros for 2016 application.

yes bro. thats why i said u shd contact the sch. if you still have time, reapply.

sureb0y:


I'm considering re-applying. I don't know if I've been banned or not. It wasn't stated. I don't know if I should just lock up and move on with my life. @dondaddycares suggested a fresh application while there's still time. I'm seriously considering his argument, it makes sense. What do u think? To lock up or re-apply? Give reasons please.

I just checked my account balance sef. I don't have enough money to reapply and no one is willing to help at d moment. Aiico 32k, 67k rp fee. 10k transport to Abuja and back. That's like 110k. Money in my acct's about 1.5m now. If I remove from it to pay for these things, I won't have enough balance to meet the 6720 euro ish again.
I'm calling the whole ish off. Spent a lot already. That's all. I tried my best. Maybe it just wasn't my way.

sureb0y:
I just checked my account balance sef. I don't have enough money to reapply and no one is willing to help at d moment. Aiico 32k, 67k rp fee. 10k transport to Abuja and back. That's like 110k. Money in my acct's about 1.5m now. If I remove from it to pay for these things, I won't have enough balance to meet the 6720 euro ish again.
I'm calling the whole ish off. Spent a lot already. That's all. I tried my best. Maybe it just wasn't my way.

Try other country boss, this reminds of some folks that keep trying Yankee like say their destiny tie to that place. God might be calling your attention to a certain land that you will excel better but since you're not seeing it then he wanted you to act your script first. brace yourself baba God has a better plan for you.

yea you have tried bro. but how abt getting a refund for ur ticket n use dat for a new application?

sureb0y:
I just checked my account balance sef. I don't have enough money to reapply and no one is willing to help at d moment. Aiico 32k, 67k rp fee. 10k transport to Abuja and back. That's like 110k. Money in my acct's about 1.5m now. If I remove from it to pay for these things, I won't have enough balance to meet the 6720 euro ish again.
I'm calling the whole ish off. Spent a lot already. That's all. I tried my best. Maybe it just wasn't my way.

Abeg, is there anyone coming to Tampere any time soon. Forgot my charger at home and can't imagine myself buying charger for 10 euros wey be say na N200 or max 500 for naija. Abeg help a friend. Pls

GeneXY:
Abeg, is there anyone coming to Tampere any time soon. Forgot my charger at home and can't imagine myself buying charger for 10 euros wey be say na N200 or max 500 for naija. Abeg help a friend. Pls

LoooL...u better buy it, and let the devil be ashamed
Dont worry, very soon u will stop converting everything to naira.

iceberg54:


LoooL...u better buy it, and let the devil be ashamed
Dont worry, very soon u will stop converting everything to naira.

Amen bro. Things r really expensive here mehn. Imagine to have an hair cut 30Euros. My pple at hm shud be ready to welcome their son back after my prog with Prof Soyinka's hairstyle.

GeneXY:



Amen bro. Things r really expensive here mehn. Imagine to have an hair cut 30Euros. My pple at hm shud be ready to welcome their son back after my prog with Prof Soyinka's hairstyle.

LooL...na to look for a naija friend to barb for u o. It might look terrible, but who cares, you just saved 30 euros....LooL

iceberg54:


LooL...na to look for a naija friend to barb for u o. It might look terrible, but who cares, you just saved 30 euros....LooL

Lmao.... Me don buy cap wey I take dey do hommies o...