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Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by HNosegbe(m): 2:13pm On Oct 08, 2012
Gbawe: Jarus and OAM4J, there are some good non-Nigerians here. They are contributory members of Nairaland also. Why not include at least one of them , in a show of positive discrimination, to foster unity , provide a 'balanced' and inclusiveness panel of judges plus aid the concept of involving some who can be totally neutral and optimally useful regarding some debates?

Remember that a Briton or Argentinian will never be chosen to referee a Soccer game between Britain and Argentina. That concept shows we should have at least 1 or 2 non-Nigerian Nairalanders as judges who can always choose to opt out of things they don't know much about but can prove very decisive in issues Nigerians may be too passionate or biased about.

For example, I am connected with Ghana through familial association but not to the extent of taking sides. My Ghanaian friends therefore appreciate my neutral opinion regarding what I think of the NDC and NPP (our own PDP and ACN).

Whatever the mods do, they should be sure not to pick that Ghanaian tout called Smooth Criminal who sings that annoying tone "Only Ghanaian rule can save West Africa!!!". Annoying dolt, he is.

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Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Obinoscopy(m): 2:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
A nice initiative. Love discussing and debating with politically conscious colleagues. Would love to be among the debaters. Please sign me up. smiley
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by HNosegbe(m): 2:43pm On Oct 08, 2012
What about Musiwa? At least he can show us satellite images.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by shymexx(m): 3:22pm On Oct 08, 2012
List of judges - bwahahahahahaha.... Nigerians are bad judges of intellect, no surprise, anyway...

1, PointB - Biafran
2, Eziachi - Good choice.
3, Max siollun - Great choice... I've never seen him on NL, but I've read his works online.
4, Pukkah - Great choice
5, e-Geurilla - Great choice
6, Ajanlekoko - Good choice
7, Paddy Lo - I don't know him
8, Northsap - Great Choice
9, Ufeolohun - Good choice
10, Kilode - Great choice
11, Rossik - Good choice but too darn angry
12,Sagamite - Worst choice.. My little sister has a higher IQ than this tool.
13, Mikeansy - I don't know him
14, Akanbi Edu - Good choice
15, Haka nai - Arewa boy
16, HNOsegbe - Good choice
17, Ballabriggs - Good choice
18, Jason123 - Bwahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
19,Edo girl - Great choice
20, Sisi-skills - Boring sarcasm, no substance
21, Coogar - He never talks about politics - good choice
22, Jomogbomo - Don't know him
23, Kobojunkie - Bwhahahahahahaha
24, Ogugua88 - hm[b]mm.. Good choice[/b]
25, Odunnu - Bwahahahahahahahahaha

PhysicsQED and Afro_Blue/Sky_blue should be on that list... Kats deserves a first round ballot on that list as well...
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gbawe: 3:42pm On Oct 08, 2012
shymexx: List of judges - bwahahahahahaha.... Nigerians are bad judges of intellect, no surprise, anyway...

1, PointB - Biafran
2, Eziachi - Good choice.
3, Max siollun - Great choice... I've never seen him on NL, but I've read his works online.
4, Pukkah - Great choice
5, e-Geurilla - Great choice
6, Ajanlekoko - Good choice
7, Paddy Lo - I don't know him
8, Northsap - Great Choice
9, Ufeolohun - Good choice
10, Kilode - Great choice
11, Rossik - Good choice but too darn angry
12,Sagamite - Worst choice.. My little sister has a higher IQ than this tool.
13, Mikeansy - I don't know him
14, Akanbi Edu - Good choice
15, Haka nai - Arewa boy
16, HNOsegbe - Good choice
17, Ballabriggs - Good choice
18, Jason123 - Bwahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
19,Edo girl - Great choice
20, Sisi-skills - Boring sarcasm, no substance
21, Coogar - He never talks about politics - good choice
22, Jomogbomo - Don't know him
23, Kobojunkie - Bwhahahahahahaha
24, Ogugua88 - hm[b]mm.. Good choice[/b]
25, Odunnu - Bwahahahahahahahahaha

PhysicsQED and Afro_Blue/Sky_blue should be on that list... Kats deserves a first round ballot on that list as well...

Well-done Shymexx. Good for Nairalanders to speak when processes like this take place that can enhance our usage of this forum and make it more generally productive as an arena of ideas. I totally forgot PhysicsQED and Sky-blue. I don't know Afro-Blue well enough but your choice of PhysicsQED and Sky-blue is very sound in my opinion.

Jarus can you include these three names shymexx has suggested? It is about judges having little or no objections to their candidacy and I urge Nairalanders to get involved so that we get worthy Judges and not bigoted/sectional/controversial/subversive/divisive characters tainting processes and continuing the 'agbero' trend that has driven many away from this forum.

I think we can look at creating a separate list for non-Nigerian Nairalanders who are civil plus make intelligent contributions here. That way, we can ensure 2 or ,at the very least, 1 out of 10 Judges will be non-Nigerian on a forum many Africans use.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 3:52pm On Oct 08, 2012
1, PointB - Good Choice
2, Eziachi - Great choice.
3, Max siollun - ??
4, Pukkah - Fairly ok. Too garrulous
5, e-Geurilla - Great choice
6, Ajanlekoko - Good choice
7, Paddy Lo - I don't know him
8, Northsap - Great Choice
9, Ufeolohun - ACN goon
10, Kilode - ACN goon
11, Rossik - Poor choice, too darn angry
12,Sagamite - Worst choice..
13, Mikeansy - Good Choice
14, Akanbi Edu - Gbawe's boy/ACN goon
15, Haka nai - Arewa boy/Boko Haram Supporter
16, HNOsegbe - Good choice
17, Ballabriggs - Good choice
18, Jason123 - Poor Choice
19,Edo girl - Great choice
20, Sisi-skills - Bad Choice
21, Coogar - Not sure of him
22, Jomogbomo - Don't know him
23, Kobojunkie - Regurgitative - Bad choice
24, Ogugua88 - Good choice
25, Odunnu - Damn good choice

PhysicsQED and Afro_Blue/Sky_blue - Great choice

Kats - bad judge.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(m): 3:53pm On Oct 08, 2012
shymexx: Kats deserves a first round ballot on that list as well...

Personally, i would like to see Katz as a debater rather than as a Judge, but if you guys think we should consider him as a judge, so be it.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(m): 3:59pm On Oct 08, 2012
Nominate non-Nigerians too. State nationality in your nomination.


The coordinators(mods) are noting the reservations on/endorsements of the nominated judges. By Wednesday, we shall release the final list based on the reservations/endorsements and our enlightened discretion.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gbawe: 4:02pm On Oct 08, 2012
Jarus: Nominate non-Nigerians too.


The coordinators(mods) are noting the reservations on/endorsements of the nominated judges. By Wednesday, we shall release the final list based on the reservations/endorsements and our enlightened discretion.

Non-Nigerians. I nominate Bennyboy and Akwasi. Will add more names if I remember them.

They are Ghanaian Nairalanders.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Odunnu: 4:37pm On Oct 08, 2012
Jarus:
1, PointB should be a debater
2, Eziachi Good choice
3, Max siollun Dont know him
4, Pukkah ok
5, e-Geurilla Ok
6, Ajanlekoko ok
7, Paddy Lo Dont know him
8, Northsap dont know him
9, Ufeolohun
10, Kilode Very good choice
11, Rossik ok
12,Sagamite better as a debater
13, Mikeansy Ok
14, Akanbi Edu
15, Haka nai better as a debater
16, HNOsegbe ok
17, Ballabriggs Dont know him
18, Jason123 ok
19,Edo girl good choice
20, Sisi-skills Awesome
21, Coogar ok
22, Jomogbomo ok
23, Kobojunkie i'm sure she wont accept.
24, Ogugua88 Should be a debater
25, Odunnu ochi
26, PhysicsQED good choice
27, Afro_blue

Non-Nigerian (2 to be chosen)


Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 7:05pm On Oct 08, 2012
PointB: 1, PointB - Good Choice
2, Eziachi - Great choice.
3, Max siollun - ??
4, Pukkah - Fairly ok. Too garrulous
5, e-Geurilla - Great choice
6, Ajanlekoko - Good choice
7, Paddy Lo - I don't know him
8, Northsap - Great Choice
9, Ufeolohun - ACN goon
10, Kilode - ACN goon
11, Rossik - Poor choice, too darn angry
12,Sagamite - Worst choice..
13, Mikeansy - Good Choice
14, Akanbi Edu - Gbawe's boy/ACN goon
15, Haka nai - Arewa boy/Boko Haram Supporter
16, HNOsegbe - Good choice
17, Ballabriggs - Good choice
18, Jason123 - Poor Choice
19,Edo girl - Great choice
20, Sisi-skills - Bad Choice
21, Coogar - Not sure of him
22, Jomogbomo - Don't know him
23, Kobojunkie - Regurgitative - Bad choice
24, Ogugua88 - Good choice
25, Odunnu - Damn good choice

PhysicsQED and Afro_Blue/Sky_blue - Great choice

Kats - bad judge.

Kilode has never affiliated with any political party. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but your choice of words do not fit his person. You refer to supporters of another political party as goons, when you yourself are a supporter of PDP/GEJ and yet you illogically referred to yourself as a good choice.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 7:12pm On Oct 08, 2012
Jarus: OAM4J et al,

Can we look at having a pool of 10 standing judges? For any debate, we just pick 5 based on availability, non-connectedness to the topic, expertise on the subject etc.

Akanbi_edu: I support Jarus' idea of having a pool of judges, selected based on availability, interest, and discretion of the organizer. I also suggest that debaters should be nominated based on the topic at hand. For example a debate like "ACN is better than PDP- true or false" should have posters like Gbawe,Beaf etc as debaters while another one on "Awolowo- Hero or villian" should have katsumoto,dede1 etc as debaters. The main point I am trying to make is that debaters should consist of those whose side they are, is popularly known while judges should be those whose side they are, is hardly known(Though they have).

Excellent
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gbawe: 7:21pm On Oct 08, 2012
Katsumoto:

Kilode has never affiliated with any political party. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but your choice of words do not fit his person. You refer to supporters of another political party as goons, when you yourself are a supporter of PDP/GEJ and yet you illogically referred to yourself as a good choice.

Man mi, don't waste your time with the ever irreverent and divisive PointB. He cannot help himself. Imagine referring to to another poster disrespectfully as "Gbawe's boy" as a way to prjudice opinion against said poster, yet he is nominating himself. If if anybody should be referred to derogatorily as anyone's "boy" here.

The guy can start a fight in an empty bar room. That is how pugnacious he is. Anyway many have objected to him being a Judge and I rule him out also. Simply too abrasive, totally in decorum and virtually incapable of adopting the concept of respecting others. Everyone he voted against was on the basis of prejudice and this is why he votes against Kilode you even note does not affiliate himself partisanly always.

Judges should simply be Nairalanders who have always stood for what is right, have shown a passionate sense of equity and fairness plus generally speak always as if they see Nigeria. Judges should come from all ethnic groups. They may have flaws but they must not , on Nairaland, be those guilty of casual discrimination against others, unsolicited rudeness towards others and divisive hatred of fellow Nairalanders on grounds of ethnicity, gender, religion.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by jmaine: 7:30pm On Oct 08, 2012
My nomination as a Judge . . .The admirable and intelligent Londoner . . . . The Most unbiased nairalander who commands my respect . . . . .

btw, Who placed Akanbi_Edu name on the judges list . . . . He is too partisan to be a Judge . . . . .Abeg delete that name sharpaly angry
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 7:32pm On Oct 08, 2012
Katsumoto:

Kilode has never affiliated with any political party. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but your choice of words do not fit his person. You refer to supporters of another political party as goons, when you yourself are a supporter of PDP/GEJ and yet you illogically referred to yourself as a good choice.

I believe Kilode can freely express himself, unless you have have been appointed his errand boy.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Afam4eva(m): 7:32pm On Oct 08, 2012
jmaine: My nomination as a Judge . . .The admirable and intelligent Londoner . . . . The Most unbiased nairalander who commands my respect . . . . .
Yeah, Londoner can be an unbiased umpire.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 7:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
PointB:

I believe Kilode can freely express himself, unless you have have been appointed his errand boy.

Kilode has not been online in a while and I deemed it fair to speak out so that he is not tagged as a goon.


In any case, isn't it ironic that you refer to me as an errand boy when you, PointB, organised a ridiculous election to elect an Eze on NL, when it was obvious to all that were trying to get OnlyTruth elected as Eze. grin grin grin
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 7:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
Gbawe:

Man mi, don't waste your time with the ever irreverent and divisive PointB. He cannot help himself. Imagine referring to to another poster disrespectfully as "Gbawe's boy" as a way to prjudice opinion against said poster, yet he is nominating himself. If if anybody should be referred to derogatorily as anyone's "boy" here.

The guy can start a fight in an empty bar room. That is how pugnacious he is. Anyway many have objected to him being a Judge and I rule him out also. Simply too abrasive, totally in decorum and virtually incapable of adopting the concept of respecting others. Everyone he voted against was on the basis of prejudice and this is why he votes against Kilode you even note does not affiliate himself partisanly always.

Judges should simply be Nairalanders who have always stood for what is right, have shown a passionate sense of equity and fairness plus generally speak always as if they see Nigeria. Judges should come from all ethnic groups. They may have flaws but they must not , on Nairaland, be those guilty of casual discrimination against others, unsolicited rudeness towards others and divisive hatred of fellow Nairalanders on grounds of ethnicity, gender, religion.

I can see, you have not given up on pettiness, and your fixation with PointB. Can't you for once in your hypocritical life ignore me? What is it with you always showing your victim complex? Guy, get behind me. You are not the only poster on this thread.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 7:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
Gbawe:

Man mi, don't waste your time with the ever irreverent and divisive PointB. He cannot help himself. Imagine referring to to another poster disrespectfully as "Gbawe's boy" as a way to prjudice opinion against said poster, yet he is nominating himself. If if anybody should be referred to derogatorily as anyone's "boy" here.

The guy can start a fight in an empty bar room. That is how pugnacious he is. Anyway many have objected to him being a Judge and I rule him out also. Simply too abrasive, totally in decorum and virtually incapable of adopting the concept of respecting others. Everyone he voted against was on the basis of prejudice and this is why he votes against Kilode you even note does not affiliate himself partisanly always.

Judges should simply be Nairalanders who have always stood for what is right, have shown a passionate sense of equity and fairness plus generally speak always as if they see Nigeria. Judges should come from all ethnic groups. They may have flaws but they must not , on Nairaland, be those guilty of casual discrimination against others, unsolicited rudeness towards others and divisive hatred of fellow Nairalanders on grounds of ethnicity, gender, religion.

I can see, you have not given up on pettiness, and your fixation with PointB. Can't you for once in your hypocritical life ignore me? What is it with you always showing your victim complex? Guy, get behind me. You are not the only poster on this thread.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gboliwe: 7:37pm On Oct 08, 2012
Good to see Ajanlekoko up there, i'll nominate Violent, Debosky and callotti . These are unbiased, sound minded and should make good judges.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Afam4eva(m): 7:39pm On Oct 08, 2012
Katsumoto:

Kilode has not been online in a while and I deemed it fair to speak out so that he is not tagged as a goon.


In any case, isn't it ironic that you refer to me as an errand boy when you, PointB, organised a ridiculous election to elect an Eze on NL, when it was obvious to all that were trying to get OnlyTruth elected as Eze. grin grin grin



At least the election was witnessed live by all and sundry on this website and people voted. Let's stop this pettiness and stick to the issue at hand.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 7:42pm On Oct 08, 2012
afam4eva:
At lest the election was witnessed live by all and sundry and people voted. Let's stop this pettiness and stick to the issue at hand.

Don't be daft.

Did you miss the thread where your INEC boss wrongly accused a decent poster of being a goon?

Why did you not direct your 'pettiness' at him? Because he is Igbo like you?

I am trying to be civil but if you come back at me with another moronic post, I will be forced to highlight it.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by jmaine: 7:43pm On Oct 08, 2012
Pettiness showing through . . . . .Una go soon ruin this thread . .
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 7:46pm On Oct 08, 2012
Katsumoto:

Kilode has not been online in a while and I deemed it fair to speak out so that he is not tagged as a goon.


In any case, isn't it ironic that you refer to me as an errand boy when you, PointB, organised a ridiculous election to elect an Eze on NL, when it was obvious to all that were trying to get OnlyTruth elected as Eze. grin grin grin




Na wa oo. What concerns you with the institution of Eze Ndi Igbo on Nairaland. I dont get the fixation of an adult on a supposedly 'ridiculous' election. Was your ox gored by the election? I smell envy! Was that why your groupies twice attempted and twice failed to replicate such simple election? Na wa oo. My guy, look for other issue to engage your time. You are much better than this sort of pettiness. Don't let Gbawe's disease infects you. Desola yet calls you 'uncle', things change in a heartbeat here. Don't be like Gbawe, as you are leaning...
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 7:48pm On Oct 08, 2012
afam4eva:
Yeah, Londoner can be an unbiased umpire.


Sure man. Londoner is the bomb. Any day! cool cool cool
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gbawe: 7:50pm On Oct 08, 2012
PointB:

I can see, you have not given up on pettiness, and your fixation with PointB. Can't you for once in your hypocritical life ignore me? What is it with you always showing your victim complex? Guy, get behind me. You are not the only poster on this thread.

Guy, please don't bring your crap here. Are you never ashamed? What fixation with you? If even minimally bright you will realise you goofed to show who is fixated with who when you wanted to prejudice opinion by labelling a poster "Gbawe's boy". Does that not show you are fixated with others. Grow up.

You are here giving your opinion even to include bigotedly calling others "Arewa boy/Boko haram" yet you can't take it when others say why you should not be a judge. Is this not all the negative qualities I stated showing up here?
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Afam4eva(m): 7:53pm On Oct 08, 2012
The debate has just started even without judges...
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by jmaine: 7:55pm On Oct 08, 2012
afam4eva: The debate has just started even without judges...

Still part of the process cheesy . . .We are getting there . . .
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gbawe: 7:56pm On Oct 08, 2012
afam4eva:
At least the election was witnessed live by all and sundry on this website and people voted. Let's stop this pettiness and stick to the issue at hand.

Afam4eva, I watch you do this all the time and it is disgraceful. As Katsumoto stated, why did you not correct others for pettiness when they called nominees "goons", "Gbawe's boy" and "Arewa/Boko haram"? Is that not highly distasteful? Yet you saw nothing wrong with it and only commented to talk of "pettiness" against Katsumoto.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 7:59pm On Oct 08, 2012
PointB:

Na wa oo. What concerns you with the institution of Eze Ndi Igbo on Nairaland. I dont get the fixation of an adult on a supposedly 'ridiculous' election. Was your ox gored by the election? I smell envy! Was that why your groupies twice attempted and twice failed to replicate such simple election? Na wa oo. My guy, look for other issue to engage your time. You are much better than this sort of pettiness. Don't let Gbawe's disease infects you. Desola yet calls you 'uncle', things change in a heartbeat here. Don't be like Gbawe, as you are leaning...

It is of no interest to me, I was merely highlighting the tomfoolery of calling someone an errand boy when you conducted an election to determine an online king of an ethnic group. In any case, I am done discussing this, I just needed to correct you for trying to besmirch a decent man's name. No more no less.


jmaine: Pettiness showing through . . . . .Una go soon ruin this thread . .

I apologise for my part but it is wrong to keep quiet when a decent man is being attacked in his absence.
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PointB: 8:01pm On Oct 08, 2012
Gbawe:

Guy, please don't bring your crap here. Are you never ashamed? What fixation with you? If even minimally bright you will realise you goofed to show who is fixated with who when you wanted to prejeudice opinion by labelleing a poster "Gbawe's boy". Does that not show you are fixated with others Grow up.

You are here giving your opinion even to include bigotedly calling others "Arewa boy/Boko haram" yet you can't take it when others say why you should not be a judge. Is this not all the negative qualities I stated showing up here?

Guy go and sit down somewhere jare. You are getting too old, and senile. You simply like running you mouth, not minding if you are making sense. If you are not a hypocrite how could you missed the fact that you shamelessly gave kudos to your sidekick/brother Shymexx, for terming Haka Nai - Arewa boy only to turn around to criticize me for similar thing. Are you not tired of this barefaced hypocrisy and shameless duality of yours? Folks see you for what you are in anycase. Keep pretending...
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 8:03pm On Oct 08, 2012
Avoid Sensitive and Emotional Topics I don't get it.. it is Politics, the life-blood of national governance.. a visible pivot of democratic institutions the world over..? now i get it? issues like flower-planting, ballot-box snatching and drilling-bore holes will be top priority while Violence against women, Boko-Haram, the role of Religion in National Governance, Sharia, Accountability for public officials etc will be dumbed-down into side comments that @Nairaland Owner will simply delete at a convenient time or worse shove into page 10.. please correct me if I am wrong

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