mekaboy: Who said Nigerians are not law abiding?

Nigerians will obey the law, if they see reason and benefits of obeying the law.

mekaboy:

OH GREAT, THOSE LIVES ARE NOW FREE NOW ABI?, WONT THEY STILL DIE IN THE HANDS OF ARMED ROBBERS AND KIDNAPPERS, THAT WERE ONCE SELF EMPLOYED WITH OKADA?

I AM NOT SAYING, THEY SHOULD BREAK THE LAWS, I AM SAYING THE FINE SHOULD BE STANDARD AND REASONABLE. IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC LAW STATING THAT IF YOU VIOLATE THE LAW, YOU PAY 500K FOR YOUR CAR. WONT PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR CAR AT THE STATION?

AND YOU KNOW HOW LAWLESS NIGERIAN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS, WHEN YOU GO TO THE STATION, THERE WONT BE A STANDARD PRICE. THE POLICE OFFICE CAN TELL YOU TO BRINK 50K FOR YOUR BIKE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.

IF THERE IS A STANDARD 5K LAW, I DONT THINK ANY OKADA RIDER WILL BREAK THE LAW, PAY 5K AND BREAK IT AGAIN. HOW MUCH DO THEY MAKE?

UNEMPLOYMENT IN LAGOS OR NIGERIA, WILL CLAIM MORE LIVES THAT OKADA ACCIDENT .

mekaboy:

this is the same view someone will have with the murdered uniport students. If you see cultist kill people or rob people, does that justify the killing of the uniport students? Even though its the laws of the people of alu to kill anyone stealing.

mekaboy: Who said Nigerians are not law abiding?


If we must copy America, we should copy everything. The western world makes laws to benefit the citizens, the [b]Nigerian govt makes laws to raise funds from citizens. This is a very wrong motiv[/b]e.

dabossman:

In your honest opinion, right now in Nigeria, are there more Okada men than there are unemployed youths?

naptu2:

Have you seen what happens on Ikorodu Road? There are signs telling people not to cross the expressway. There is a pedestrian bridge. Right beneath the pedestrian bridge you will see people running across the expressway. What do you want the government to do?

The laws are not as harsh as you think they are. Lagos State has options for community service, rehabilitation (skills acquisition centre and drivers institute), fine, repatriation and jail term. Check the front page, you'll see the story of people who've been sentenced to community service for riding on top trains. Most of the ideas you are suggesting actually exist. But in this instance, the okada riders abandoned their motorcycles and fled.

mekaboy: there are more unemployed than okada riders. and the govt has added extra 3000 to that number. the effect of unemployment in nigeria is worse than all the okada accidents in a year.

thats my point.

mekaboy:

dabossman:

Can I ask you some more question mekaboy?

Do you work for an organization, whether public or private sector? Do you get to work early because the company policy says 8AM? Do you maybe wear a suit Monday-Thursday because that is the rule? Do you obey all other regulations within the organization knowing fully well that flouting them brazenly may eventually result in loosing your means of livelihood?

If you and I can do it, why do some people feel they are above simple traffic laws?

dabossman:

Can I ask you some more question mekaboy?

Do you work for an organization, whether public or private sector? Do you get to work early because the company policy says 8AM? Do you maybe wear a suit Monday-Thursday because that is the rule? Do you obey all other regulations within the organization knowing fully well that flouting them brazenly may eventually result in loosing your means of livelihood?

If you and I can do it, why do some people feel they are above simple traffic laws?

Eze Promoe: Lagos motto: Preparing armrobbers and criminals for the future

LADI_baba: I wonder who said Lagos is for everyone? I believe no one forced you to stay in Lagos. If you don't have any source of livelihood why not return to where you are from No one is above the law.

mekaboy: LEAD IN WHAT?

I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT EACH OF THOSE OKADAS REPRESENT A FAMILY, A CHILDS SCHOOL FEES, SOMEONES DAILY BREAD. AND AN OPEN DOOR FOR ARMED ROBBERY, KIDNAPPING AND INSECURITY.

SO WHEN YOU NOTICE THE INCREASE OF ARMED ROBBERY IN LAGOS, DONT ASK WHERE IT CAME FROM. ITS ONE OF THOSE OKADAS YOU SEE THERE. THOSE CAUGHT OFFENDING SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY A FINE, INSTEAD OF DESTROYING THEIR MEANS OF LIVELIHOOD. ITS NOT LIKE GOVT PAYS WELFARE TO SUPPORT ANY CITIZEN, OR THERE ARE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE YOU CAN EASILY WALK IN AND GET A JOB.

THOSE OF YOU PRAISING GOVT FOR THIS, SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED, WHEN A PREVIOUS OKADA RIDER COMES TO ROB YOU AT NIGHT.

dabossman:

You know I agree with you that offenders should be given the opportunity to pay a fine and retrieve their vehicles, but if what the traffic official said about Okadamen abandoning their bikes and fleeing is true, then what do we expect the government to do. You can't fine someone you can't catch.

I think we should all just try our best to obey these laws. They are not so hard you know? Even illiterate bikemen in Benin Republic obey traffic laws. Why do we Nigerians seem to prefer being lawless?

dabossman:

You know I agree with you that offenders should be given the opportunity to pay a fine and retrieve their vehicles, but if what the traffic official said about Okadamen abandoning their bikes and fleeing is true, then what do we expect the government to do. You can't fine someone you can't catch.

I think we should all just try our best to obey these laws. They are not so hard you know? Even illiterate bikemen in Benin Republic obey traffic laws. Why do we Nigerians seem to prefer being lawless?

Eze Promoe: Lagos motto: Preparing armrobbers and criminals for the future

mekaboy: LEAD IN WHAT?

I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT EACH OF THOSE OKADAS REPRESENT A FAMILY, A CHILDS SCHOOL FEES, SOMEONES DAILY BREAD. AND AN OPEN DOOR FOR ARMED ROBBERY, KIDNAPPING AND INSECURITY.

SO WHEN YOU NOTICE THE INCREASE OF ARMED ROBBERY IN LAGOS, DONT ASK WHERE IT CAME FROM. ITS ONE OF THOSE OKADAS YOU SEE THERE. THOSE CAUGHT OFFENDING SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY A FINE, INSTEAD OF DESTROYING THEIR MEANS OF LIVELIHOOD. ITS NOT LIKE GOVT PAYS WELFARE TO SUPPORT ANY CITIZEN, OR THERE ARE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE YOU CAN EASILY WALK IN AND GET A JOB.

THOSE OF YOU PRAISING GOVT FOR THIS, SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED, WHEN A PREVIOUS OKADA RIDER COMES TO ROB YOU AT NIGHT.

Brainrex: 3,000 people are now jobless

mekaboy:
why do u think they abandoned thier bikes? its because of the lawlessness of the law enforcement agencies.

when an offender is caught, the person should be given a ticket. they go and pay get a reciept and pick their bike.

but when the touts called task force see an offender, they attack the person like a criminal. when the person gets to the station, they are thrown into the cell. you then bail.yourself first before you bail your bike. and the fine should be standard and not when u go to the station you start to bargain.

and enough enlightenment should be carried out to enable the okada people understand the rules.

when govt decides to ban okada from various parts of lagos. these laws affect their means of.livelihood, therefore there suld be a representative of the okada people in the meetings that produce these laws.

let them get involved in the decision making because it affects them.

you see how jonathan woke up in the first of january this yr and removed the subsidy and increased fuel price without properly consulting the citizens . you saw the effect.

fashola came up with the plate number laws without consulting those who will be affected. because they are blinded by how much they will.make from plate number registration.

when citizens are not consulted before making laws, it becomes difficult to obey them.

mekaboy: DOES RETURNING TO A STATE, WHERE THE PERSON IS FROM, GUARANTY EMPLOYMENT? AND WHO IS LAGOS FOR? SO AS SOON AS THE PERSON RETURNS TO THE STATE WHERE THEY COME FROM, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY EMPLOYED ? ARE YOU SAYING THE OKADA RIDERS ARE NOT FROM LAGOS ? WHAT A PRIMITIVE WAY OF THINKING .

LADI_baba: Its rather sad to note that we have people like you encouraging armed robbery in Lagos. Sending you back to school, there are real indigenes of Lagos who do responsible things to ensure their real homes are very well developed. You find these people electing and supporting the government and ensuring the system works. We also have other categories of people who hear that lagos is a land flowing with milk and honey, and troop down to Lagos for a better tomorrow. These people (like you) need to learn to adapt to your new environment and leave the regular village life behind you, embrace the laws of the land or leave Lagos - if you cannot cope or settled down within such developed city.
I believe this is simple enough for you to understand.

mekaboy: LEAD IN WHAT?

I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT EACH OF THOSE OKADAS REPRESENT A FAMILY, A CHILDS SCHOOL FEES, SOMEONES DAILY BREAD. AND AN OPEN DOOR FOR ARMED ROBBERY, KIDNAPPING AND INSECURITY.

SO WHEN YOU NOTICE THE INCREASE OF ARMED ROBBERY IN LAGOS, DONT ASK WHERE IT CAME FROM. ITS ONE OF THOSE OKADAS YOU SEE THERE. THOSE CAUGHT OFFENDING SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY A FINE, INSTEAD OF DESTROYING THEIR MEANS OF LIVELIHOOD. ITS NOT LIKE GOVT PAYS WELFARE TO SUPPORT ANY CITIZEN, OR THERE ARE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE YOU CAN EASILY WALK IN AND GET A JOB.

THOSE OF YOU PRAISING GOVT FOR THIS, SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED, WHEN A PREVIOUS OKADA RIDER COMES TO ROB YOU AT NIGHT.

mekaboy: SO WHEN U VIOLATE THE TRAFFIC LAW THEY TAKE YOUR OKADA AND DESTROY IT? WHAT HAPPENED TO PAYING A FINE? ISNT THAT WHAT THEY DO IN CIVILIZED COUNTRIES?

THE SAME RULE SHOULD THEN BE APPLIED TO TAXI AND PRIVATE CARS, SO THAT IF YOU VIOLATE THE TRAFFIC LAW, THEY WILL TAKE YOUR CAR AND DESTROY IT .

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT FASHOLA IS DOING TO THESE OKADA RIDERS WHO BROKE THE TRAFFIC LAWS AND WHAT THE PEOPLE OF ALLUU DID TO UNIPORT STUDENTS ?

nkem Kalu: DONT FORGET THAT MOST STATES IN NIGERIA HAS OUTRIGHTLY BANNED OKADA....COS THEY ARE MORE DEADLY THAN ANY OTHER ROAD USERS.