Whites like Brandon Huntley and Rhodesia and her alter ego Corporal are not apologetic about their advantageous position in South Africa as a result of Apartheid. These choose to ignore this by enforcing their own victimhood; they are being intentionally persecuted(Huntley), they are 'victims' of Affirmative Action, none of them can get jobs(corporal), and other irrational beliefs that have been found not to be true. Reconciliation has proven to be futile for Blacks, as Blacks have found themselves to be victims of White denialists. Late last night I was a witness of a race war that took place on twitter, about racism in Cape Town( a very hot issue). You had 20 Blacks listing examples of what they believed supported the assumption of racism in Cape Town. Whites, including the premier of the province, swiftly and arrogantly denied all claims of racism in the city. They didn't even try to engage the Blacks in a respectful manner, they responded Rhodesia/Corporal style, with immature name calling and disrespect. The premier responded to the initial allegation with "complete nonsense", which means any hope of her at least investigating the matter is nil. This is the Rhodesia/Corporal mentality. Black concerns are met with foolish, racist response which aim to discount the Black experience. However when a White is suffering his feelings must be the center of every living being's universe. Criticism of Whites=Reverse racism=White victimhood.

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I remember asking you not to use Cape Town as a barometer to judge race relations in South Africa. Cape Town has always been and will always be a racist city and the fact that the whites have provincial political power makes it worse because it's the only place in this country where they have some form of control. But the way they run that city and province is top-class but their good management also creates racism which means if they where in charge of they whole country it would be well managed but also racist. Oh, I think we've had that already. Just leave Cape Town and let the whites enjoy it by themselves, it's the first place they landed on 350 years ago and that place in the tip of Africa was vacant.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/cape-town-a-racist-city/

IF your countries are so good then why the Bleep do we have this:::::::
There are many reasons for this. If South Africa is a magnet for African refugees, it is also a magnet for economic migrants, traders and migrant workers, as well as drug dealers, car thieves, petty criminals looking for easy pickings, and serious gangsters. After 1994 the fences essentially went down. Today, the number of undocumented migrants in South Africa is anybody’s guess. Estimates of the number of migrants from other parts of Africa range from under one million to over 10 million. Given the difficulty of gaining even temporary protection in South Africa, one has to ask if all refugees are seeking asylum. In all likelihood, there are probably many people who are refugees but never seek to formalise their status. Even so, the number of refugees in the countries to the north is many times more.

The Institute for Security Studies in South Africa reported recently that over 200 foreign crime networks are operating in South Africa, mainly by Nigerian, Chinese, Russian and Pakistani gangs. Activities include fraud, car theft, prostitution, mobile phone theft and rebirthing, money laundering, smuggling ivory, abalone, arms, gold, diamonds and drugs, as well as trafficking in humans and human organs. The organized crime problem in South Africa, according to the FBI and CIA, is only marginally less serious than in Colombia or Russia, and they estimated in December 2000 that it was costing South Africa US$23bn a year.

Listen, Paniki, I don't care who did or did not arrive here first. My family is not on any type of welfare, we contribute to the upkeep to the city therefore we don't owe anyone anything. This is the only place I know, just as the Muslims who did not arrive here first but are afforded respect or the Jews who did not arrive here first but are afforded respect. Furthermore Blacks here should be treated with respect as long as Helen Zille and other white Cape Tonians repeat the fact that Cape Town is a cosmopolitan city. If they want to have bragging rights about Cape Town being a 'world-class', multicultural city, they must have that mindset and act accordingly!

corporal:

IF your countries are so good then why the bleep do we have this:::::::
There are many reasons for this. If South Africa is a magnet for African refugees, it is also a magnet for economic migrants, traders and migrant workers, as well as drug dealers, car thieves, petty criminals looking for easy pickings, and serious gangsters. After 1994 the fences essentially went down. Today, the number of undocumented migrants in South Africa is anybody’s guess. Estimates of the number of migrants from other parts of Africa range from under one million to over 10 million. Given the difficulty of gaining even temporary protection in South Africa, one has to ask if all refugees are seeking asylum. In all likelihood, there are probably many people who are refugees but never seek to formalise their status. Even so, the number of refugees in the countries to the north is many times more.

The Institute for Security Studies in South Africa reported recently that over 200 foreign crime networks are operating in South Africa, mainly by Nigerian, Chinese, Russian and Pakistani gangs. Activities include fraud, car theft, prostitution, mobile phone theft and rebirthing, money laundering, smuggling ivory, abalone, arms, gold, diamonds and drugs, as well as trafficking in humans and human organs. The organized crime problem in South Africa, according to the FBI and CIA, is only marginally less serious than in Colombia or Russia, and they estimated in December 2000 that it was costing South Africa US$23bn a year.

Again you don't make very sound arguements. What is your point?


Name one western country that doesn't have the above mentioned syndicates, a majority of whom are "white'  "legal' "Corporate" criminals

Poor White Saffa, don't let yourself run mad thinking about the "glorious" apatheid days!

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“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear STUUPID than to open it and remove all doubt.” -- Mark Twain

The point is for those to dumb to understand, if Africa is so good then why so many running to South Africa?

Morf you are so thick you never get the point, it doesnt matter how well its written. Its not that they are coming here and doing criminal things its the fact that they are coming here at all.
If you need to run away from your own country and apply for refugee status here then clearly there is a problem in your own, wake up and admit it you ignoramus. Millions running to South Africa the home of the white man you hate, I would never run to anywhere in Africa because its all stuffed.
Go home

Sui Generi:

“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear STUUPID than to open it and remove all doubt.” -- Mark Twain

Is that a message for your alter ego Corporal?

corporal:

Morf you are so thick you never get the point, it doesnt matter how well its written. Its not that they are coming here and doing criminal things its the fact that they are coming here at all.
If you need to run away from your own country and apply for refugee status here then clearly there is a problem in your own, wake up and admit it you ignoramus. Millions running to South Africa the home of the white man you hate, I would never run to anywhere in Africa because its all stuffed.
Go home

this is the same problem i've been having with him - Morpheus please take note.

What I see now is a case of three people who have one thing in common - they all feel marginalised. Cap28 lives in white mans land who has the political power to regulate everyone including the minority same with Corporal who lives in black mans land who also has the political power to implement regulations that make him whine and then there is Zolzlolz who lives in a city that is politically controlled by whites who obviously implement local city regulations to suit them. Because those who have political power traditionally choose to look after their own first the atmosphere you live in will therefore be more pro-majority and anti-minority. You wouldn't feel so victimised and ostracised and filled with contempt and animosity if you didn't live in a place where you were in the minority.

So here's a suggestion: Cap28 LEAVE the UK and go to a place that has people who look and speak like you, you would not have been able to know that white man is racist if you were not there in the first place. Corporal you say that you are a English white which means that you will be able to get British citizenship by decent links so apply asap and then LEAVE for the UK or Australia. Zolzlolz, Cape Town is not a place for black people therefore LEAVE that place and move to any other city in South Africa.

paniki:

What I see now is a case of three people who have one thing in common - they all feel marginalised. Cap28 lives in white mans land who has the political power to regulate everyone including the minority same with Corporal who lives in black mans land who also has the political power to implement regulations that make him whine and then there is Zolzlolz who lives in a city that is politically controlled by whites who obviously implement local city regulations to suit them. Because those who have political power traditionally choose to look after their own first the atmosphere you live in will therefore be more pro-majority and anti-minority. You wouldn't feel so victimised and ostracised and filled with contempt and animosity if you didn't live in a place where you were in the minority.

So here's a suggestion: Cap28 LEAVE the UK and go to a place that has people who look and speak like you, you would not have been able to know that white man is racist if you were not there in the first place. Corporal you say that you are a English white which means that you will be able to get British citizenship by decent links so apply asap and then LEAVE for the UK or Australia. Zolzlolz, Cape Town is not a place for black people therefore LEAVE that place and move to any other city in South Africa.

Is there any black run country in the world today that is not under the control of western international banking and corporate interests?

The one thing you have failed to understand is that every single african country is run by black african puppets who have been placed in power by white imperialist interests. 

Nigeria is run and controlled by Shell bp, exxon mobil, chevron as well as the IMF and the world bank - the nigerian black puppet govt serves these interests not the interests of the people this is why people like myself had to leave.

The economic policies being implemented in nigeria favour foreign investors and a few african elite collaborators whilst leaving the vast majority of nigerians to wallow in poverty.

The only african country that refused to tow this exploitative line was libya and that is the reason that Qadaffi was assassinated by these same western interests.

Your own country is in the same position - although i will concede that the current black elite have done slightly more for the blacks of south africa than any black puppet govt on the rest of the african continent.

However the bottom line is that there are currently no independent black run govts on the african continent all are serving washington and london, the economic policies that they implement on behalf of the IMF and the World Bank  stipulate that african countries must take on debt they will never be able to repay together with crippling interest rates, remain as suppliers of raw materials and consumers of overpriced manufactured goods, allow for the continuous devaluation of their currency, allow western investors to privatise valuable state owned assets and agree to the removal of all trade barriers which do not benefit western multinational corporations - that is the blueprint that the west have designed for africa and anyone who tries to depart from that blueprint  is eliminated.

Oh thanks Dr Phil. What can you tell me about Norwood, Parkhurst and Newtown? *packs bags*

corporal:

Morf you are so thick you never get the point, it doesnt matter how well its written. [b]Its not that they are coming here and doing criminal things its the fact that they are coming here at all.[/b]If you need to run away from your own country and apply for refugee status here then clearly there is a problem in your own, wake up and admit it you ignoramus. Millions running to South Africa the home of the white man you hate, I would never run to anywhere in Africa because its all stuffed.
Go home

Don't forget the dutch, French hugenots, Jews, portuguese, German and British "settlers" oh sorry "immigrants". Wonder what they were running away from, Hmmmm??

Ignoramus is as Ignoramus does.

Learn to think harder.

cap28:



this is the same problem i've been having with him - Morpheus please take note.

You still here buddy. No more "libya", "Ghadaffi", "IMF", "Goldman sachs" audience.

You must be really bored,  no one paying attention to your dribble?

Sui Generi:

“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear STUUPID than to open it and remove all doubt.” -- Mark Twain

So as a prelude whites must be made to realise that they are only human, not superior. Same with Blacks. They must be made to realise that they are also human, not inferior.

Bantu Steve Biko

Behold close to 20 years later. The "terrorist" Nelson Mandela's South Africa in ruins and rubble. Run "white people" Run!!!!

Notice how scared the white people are. Oh SOUTH AFRICA. Botha, bring back the apatheid days!

Hoards of white people emigrating, they can't take it anymore. All 5 million of them are under siege by black savages!!. Get out while you can!. The country is  about to go down in flames!!!!

morpheus24:

Notice how scared the white people are. Oh SOUTH AFRICA. Botha, bring back the apatheid days!

You are beyond clueless - why would the whites be scared when the black south african elite have been bought and paid to do the bidding of the powerful banking and mining interests in that country?

Zuma does as he is told by his white masters that is why he voted to impose a no fly zone over libya (along with lapdogs nigeria and gabon).

What a betrayal eh! even after the financial assistance that was rendered to the ANC by Qadaffi Zuma still went ahead to stab Qadaffi in the back - that shoudl tell you that he is nothing more than a puppet of the former apartheid power structure and the western corporate interests.

The black south africans are in the majority but they dont control the south african military - this is still very much under the control of the whites.  The whites can also call upon their european NATO brothers when the going gets tough so why would they be scared?

They even have nuclear capabilities thanks to the help they received from Israel in the 80s.

Stop displaying your ignorance on here.

cap28:

You are beyond clueless - why would the whites be scared when the black south african elite have been bought and paid to do the bidding of the powerful banking and mining interests in that country?

Zuma does as he is told by his white masters that is why he voted to impose a no fly zone over libya (along with lapdogs nigeria and gabon).

What a betrayal eh! even after the financial assistance that was rendered to the ANC by Qadaffi Zuma still went ahead to stab Qadaffi in the back - that shoudl tell you that he is nothing more than a puppet of the former apartheid power structure and the western corporate interests.

The black south africans are in the majority but they dont control the south african military - this is still very much under the control of the whites.  The whites can also call upon their european NATO brothers when the going gets tough so why would they be scared?

They even have nuclear capabilities thanks to the help they received from Israel in the 80s.

Stop displaying your ignorance on here.

lol. What is the definition of the word INSANITY?

cap28:

You are beyond clueless - why would the whites be scared when the black south african elite have been bought and paid to do the bidding of the powerful banking and mining interests in that country?

Zuma does as he is told by his white masters that is why he voted to impose a no fly zone over libya (along with lapdogs nigeria and gabon).

What a betrayal eh! even after the financial assistance that was rendered to the ANC by Qadaffi Zuma still went ahead to stab Qadaffi in the back - that shoudl tell you that he is nothing more than a puppet of the former apartheid power structure and the western corporate interests.

The black south africans are in the majority but they dont control the south african military - this is still very much under the control of the whites.  The whites can also call upon their european NATO brothers when the going gets tough so why would they be scared?

They even have nuclear capabilities thanks to the help they received from Israel in the 80s.

Stop displaying your ignorance on here.

I swear if we run a word search for libya, Ghadaffi, IMF, NATO and corporate criminals your name would pop up right next to it. You really need to go see a doctor if you've stopped taking your pills

Keep on with the monologue. No one is listening!

zolzlolz:

Oh thanks Dr Phil. What can you tell me about Norwood, Parkhurst and Newtown? *packs bags*

There's no racist vibe in Joburg, only isolated racist incidences and many of them are by black to white. It's not like Cape Town where you can feel racism without ever experience it directly. The unfortunate problem that you have is that you are one of the few privileged blacks of Cape Town who live amongst the whites which means that you are in a group in which you don't belong. The whites give you subtle hints that suggest that you are an intruder and you definitely feeling it hence you negative attitude towards the whites. Because of your socio economic status of being a privileged black person, you want to enjoy the good of the city like everyone else but what works against you is that the good of Cape Town is enjoyed by whites, Indians and some white wannabe coloureds. So when you want to go have a good time at one of the joints on Long street you have to tag along with whites because black people of Cape Town stay very far away from the CBD where all the fun happens. I once lived in Cape Town so I know what I'm talking about, that place is terrible for black people that's why marginalised black people like you and Simphiwe Dana were doing a twitter rant a few days ago.

Hahahaha, this was a joke – having a twitter argument about racism with the white leader of Western Cape province. Stop bothering the whites and let them run their province in peace. Lol
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/12/28/zille-dana-argue-on-twitter-over-racist-cape-town
http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/zille-jibe-sparks-new-twitter-war-1.1205691
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/29/south-africa-racism-row-twitter

[size=16pt]Morpheus has posted nice pictures that reflect the true South Africa unlike what Zolzlolz is used to in Cape Town. All she sees is white, white, white and white I would also get sick of them.[/size]

paniki:

[size=16pt]Morpheus has posted nice pictures that reflect the true South Africa unlike what Zolzlolz is used to in Cape Town. All she sees is white, white, white and white I would also get sick of them.[/size]

Down town Cape town got a lot of Xhosa people. Been to Muzinberg, Gugulethu township, mannenburg and some refugee shanty towns. The contrast is remarkable. Its like you are in two different parts of the world.