johnw74:

bro, there would be no point in starting an end time thread on nairaland
just look at how the satanists jump in to derail:
https://www.nairaland.com/3994546/christ-ever-come

brocab:
Ok, I hope we are on the same track explaining this topic with each other-I assure you I am not in argument with you-but If we look at a bigger picture-it is important how Jesus is described to the world, most people see Jesus images before they would even think of believing in Jesus Himself, having a false outlook of Jesus can turn the world around, and when the Antichrist comes in full view-he will show himself the way the world see's Jesus. Look at the Pope-he shows himself as the god of the world-another false image, And who will follow after the beast.
The artifact's we have seen of the Egyptians-in paintings or other artifacts they found in the past-none were white-some are black, and some tan, blown colour-Jesus wasn't white-the heat of the day-would have changed any mans colour-Joseph Mary and Jesus blended in with the Egyptians when Herod was looking for him, the Jesus the Catholic's had describe Him to be-white-is given Jesus a hole new identity, blonde hair blue eye's, this isn't the description we retrieve in spirit, nor is it His description when He roamed the land.

Moses up on the mount didn't see God-as the bible tells us no-one had seen God at anytime-but the Lord sent an angel in the presents of God. {10 commandments.}
John in the other hand also had an encounter with God-John seen One like the Son of Man standing before him, either it was an angel-like Moses had seen-because No-one had seen God at anytime-all John did see Jesus standing before him in spirit and flesh, John recognised the voice of Jesus, John knew.
{Revelation 1:17} Said: "Do not be afraid, I am the first and the last.
John gave a good description of Jesus-One like the Son of Man-doesn't actually say it was an angel, like the Moses story the Lord sent His angel.
Jesus said: My sheep follow Me-He also said: My sheep know My voice-John turned around because John knew Jesus's voice.
Have you ever had a encounter with a strange presents around you-knowing something is watching you-either it is good or evil, they are scary, Jesus's disciples fell down in fear-seeing Moses and Elijah in spirit standing with Jesus, John's first encounter in spirit-would have been terrifying at first, he may have been shaking up-about his hole ordeal, One like the Son of Man-John's last encounter with Jesus in the flesh-and not in the spirit-would have knock John around.

brocab:
Ok, I hope we are on the same track explaining this topic with each other-I assure you I am not in argument with you-but If we look at a bigger picture-it is important how Jesus is described to the world, most people see Jesus images before they would even think of believing in Jesus Himself, having a false outlook of Jesus can turn the world around, and when the Antichrist comes in full view-he will show himself the way the world see's Jesus. Look at the Pope-he shows himself as the god of the world-another false image, And who will follow after the beast.
The artifact's we have seen of the Egyptians-in paintings or other artifacts they found in the past-none were white-some are black, and some tan, blown colour-Jesus wasn't white-the heat of the day-would have changed any mans colour-Joseph Mary and Jesus blended in with the Egyptians when Herod was looking for him, the Jesus the Catholic's had describe Him to be-white-is given Jesus a hole new identity, blonde hair blue eye's, this isn't the description we retrieve in spirit, nor is it His description when He roamed the land.

Moses up on the mount didn't see God-as the bible tells us no-one had seen God at anytime-but the Lord sent an angel in the presents of God. {10 commandments.}
John in the other hand also had an encounter with God-John seen One like the Son of Man standing before him, either it was an angel-like Moses had seen-because No-one had seen God at anytime-all John did see Jesus standing before him in spirit and flesh, John recognised the voice of Jesus, John knew.
{Revelation 1:17} Said: "Do not be afraid, I am the first and the last.
John gave a good description of Jesus-One like the Son of Man-doesn't actually say it was an angel, like the Moses story the Lord sent His angel.
Jesus said: My sheep follow Me-He also said: My sheep know My voice-John turned around because John knew Jesus's voice.
Have you ever had a encounter with a strange presents around you-knowing something is watching you-either it is good or evil, they are scary, Jesus's disciples fell down in fear-seeing Moses and Elijah in spirit standing with Jesus, John's first encounter in spirit-would have been terrifying at first, he may have been shaking up-about his hole ordeal, One like the Son of Man-John's last encounter with Jesus in the flesh-and not in the spirit-would have knock John around.

brocab:
Well this is one of my interest too-I love the Word of God-I want to know the in's and out's what Jesus meant about these end of times, and this is what I had found that is quite interesting-There are plenty of forums over the net-I think the best is to see how the world had changed around you. We just need to go to church to see what {1 Timothy 6:3-5} Is talking about-Christians not obeying the Word of God but ratter allowing prosperity preachers rule other them-Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth-who think that godliness is the means of financial gain.
This is the real revelation we should be focusing on, Jesus had given us these warnings all through the scriptures, so when these times come to pass we will recognise them standing at our door.
The Governments in every country controls the media, the Lord is using watchman through the internet, so you and I can-see the end is near.
The chip-is here, either it is placed on our foreheads or our right hand, it's here-people in genial are retrieving these chips because of technology, people haven't the slightest idea-what they are walking into-I have heard Christian pastors claiming to receive the mark of the beast-and believe they can still worship God.
What about the rumors of wars Russia China, Nth Korea America everywhere around the world are lining there armies up along there borders, ready for war. Jesus had warned us these things will come to pass-and sure enough we are standing on the edge-of it all.
The believers we think we have knowing for so long-have falling away from the truth-Christians-refusing to share the Word of God, but rather keep quite fearing someone may recognise them to be a believer, the Love of God-is far from them-some believe hiding will save them away from the enemy, Jesus talks about the end of day's Christians don't read Revelation-Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Luke.
The larger Churches in the world are packed with Christians from all walks of life, running after prosperity, bro, they are serving Mammon rather than serving God.
Every street corner has cameras-every store-the modern technology have hidden cameras built in computers Televisions phones, etc, the Illuminati-controls every system-the world has to offer.
Had you read about the "CERN" a seven mile round system scientists believe they can find ways to discover how the world began, "CERN" this could help destroy the world-when in operational.
This is the revelation the Lord warns us about-people don't read enough of the bible to know these things are coming, I myself had spoken out-and Christians call me crazy-I am crazy because I believe everything to Lord said: it will happen.
Even on this same forum bro on end times-I have written some pretty interesting things-you may already be aware off.
News about end time event's are everywhere-not only Christians, but the atheist are talking.
I am always open to end time news-so feel free to inform me-on any news you may find-I am always interested.
Strange things are happening, people are talking about these dates-Aug 21 2017-and Sep 23?
Movies can be used as signs about end times, cartoons had played an interest.
Jason A on you tube is quite interesting, read about the Fema camps in America, read about Obama buying 33.000 guillotines, already the Christians are being slaughtered around the world-not only Christians but everyone may be in trouble sooner then we think.
Christians having dreams of invasion of UFO's-the Clem-trials-and the strange signs in the clouds, loud strange noises are heard across the nations.
The Governments are building deep underground bunkers, like cities. This is crazy stuff bro, but to be honest Christians are turning their heads away-this is not happening-Christian aren't reading their bibles bro, Earthquakes in various places-everything the bible tells us is all coming to pass, floods, hurricanes-strange weather patterns, hail stones as big as golf balls-and larger, people are running to and fro, no-one is safe-terrorist-from all walks of life-are even using vehicles to terrorise.
These are the little things and the days are becoming shorter, Blood red Moons, rivers turning into blood, the fish are washed up on the beaches, the birds are dropping out of the skies, these are just the little things Christians turn away from.
Homosexual marriage-the Church had turned their hearts away from the Lord-the Church had accepted this lie into our community. Homosexuals leading Churches, priest-pastors, Pope Francis say's who is he to judge" the Lord said: by their fruit we will know them-this is against the Word of God-God loves everybody, but God hates the sin. Adam and Eve "Not" Adam and Steve. Does anybody believe anymore.
And these are just the beginning of sorrows.

johnw74:



@underline,
John didn't turn around because he recognized Jesus voice bro,
John turned around to see who it was that was speaking to him

Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 

then John fell down as if dead, John would not have been fearful if he knew that it was Jesus,
and Jesus-the first and the last, let John know through His Angel just who He was(I am he that liveth, and was dead ....)

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

johnw74:


@bold, You have to be careful of believing all that is said on the internet though, bro

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brocab:
Well with my own experiences-either I am asleep or awake-I hear the voice of the Lord-either I was in the spirit-I don't know, God knows, I heard the voice of the Lord speaking with me through the scriptures, I am either awake or a sleep-my spirit knows the Lord's voice-usually the night before I pray to the Lord, and through the night the Lord speaks to my unconscious sleep, many times I have woken up repeating the scriptures I had received from the Lord through the night. Bro everybody who follows Christ, either in the spirit or in their flesh knows the voice of the Lord-As He said: My sheep know My voice..
I have also had encounters with the demonic-trying to make some kind of a deal with me-of course I say get away from me in the name of Jesus.
I believe through the thundering voice John heard, John knew it was Jesus, Jesus had already told His disciples God the Father had given Jesus all His authority.
And on the Lord's day, I was in the spirit, and I heard behind me a voice like a trumpet-this voice made John turn around-and John seen one like the Son of Man, bro to be honest even the disciples were fearful, "they may have recognised Moses and Elijah on the mount talking with Jesus, but they seen them in spirit, which is unusual. I am sure John's story would have felt the same.
{Mark 9:5} The disciples did not know what to say because they were greatly afraid.
John's story would have felt the same, not knowing the unknown is fearful-John seen Jesus in the spirit-this was something John was not used too, John heard right, he knew the voice, but John didn't recognise the description, it frightened him, and he fell down as if he was dead. Jesus then put His hand on John assuring John it is I the Lord.
It would be quite scary not knowing the unknown in any case.
When I see scriptures such as these-I think of my own interpretations, and my own experiences, walking with the Lord-is something I like to take very seriously-and when I see the scriptures such as this one-it brings me back to the other scriptures-about what the Lord had said: for Some reason, I can't believe John didn't know the Lord's voice-when Jesus say's in scripture His sheep knows His voice-how could anybody forget?

johnw74:


bro it's a matter of believing the Bible, you may not understand the verses,
John said Jesus gave the revelation to him by His Angel:

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:



And Jesus Himself said at the end of the revelation, that He had sent His angel to testify to John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

brocab:
This shows we aren't on the same track bro-believing is something I do quite well-understanding the scriptures is another-but what you are not understanding is how I understand them, I know what the scriptures say-but I don't stop there-I see a bigger picture to it, I don't see just one verse-written in black and white-I see John fainting before the Lord-this is the description John fell down like he is dead, I look further into the bible and try to find other scriptures-that flow's with what John had seen and heard, every thing in the bible interest me, and of course you had pointed out the scriptures, and I of course have open them up along with my own thoughts I have learnt from reading the bible, so I see a bigger picture bro-I don't stop at Revelation 1.
John see's and heard the glorified Christ in a vision, Jesus was standing amongst 7 golden lamp-stands! Samuel in the other hand heard the voice of God, but did not recognise it, until it was instructed by Eli. {1 Samuel 3:1-10}
This story sounds like Johns story-John heard the Lord's voice and did not recognise it, at first, until he turned-but bro John knew he heard the voice of the Lord, John knew it wasn't the angels voice, this voice came from behind John, so he turned around, like Samuel he knew it was God's voice, but he didn't recognise it-it would have been quite rare in those day's without having the bible.
It's quite simple to understand, plus it is common sense-I have had friends behind me-calling out my name-sometimes voices can be deceiving, and I turn around to see who's calling.
John had enough sense to know it wasn't the angel speaking with him-but another voice came up behind John, and John turned to see who it was and John seen it was one like the Son of Man.
{Revelation 1:9-12} I was in the spirit on the Lords day-and I heard behind me a loud voice as of a trumped saying I am the Alpha and the Omega the first and the last, "What you see write in a book and send it the to 7 churches.
Then I turned around a saw the voice that spoke to me, one like the Son of Man.

brocab:
Don't take this any other way bro, but when I read through the scriptures-I test it, some interpretations of bible knowledge sound slightly different, people without the spirit of the Lord try to change the scriptures, they think it should sound the way they believe it will help others to understand it clearly-to be honest-they are removing and adding the word of God-when Jesus said not too.
I myself prefer the KJ's bible-but of course I find the KJ suits my own understanding.
When it comes to the Word-I try to see the bigger picture-I don't just sit on one verse, the spirit of the Lord opens up many verses that lines up to my knowledge of understanding.
God shows us in ways we understand, we are all made in the image of God-but we don't have that same IQ-some are smarter in ways then others-vise are versa, but at least we all know, we are equal in the eye's of the Lord.
As I see the bible, as someone ask-I try to explain to people how simple the bible is written-I explain to them the language they know, I speak in parables, just like Jesus did-and I see why parables were used, it helps people to understand, it gives them the knowledge to know how simple the bible explains itself.
People in genial do ask difficult questions-they try so hard, to try and confuse the bible, I suppose if one doesn't have the answers-hell breaks loose, I have found it harder to share the Word of God with Christians, then talking with the atheist, because they are cold for God-not lukewarm like most Christians come across to be.
It must be hard at times with you to brother-I am sure you would have those difficult questions people try to argue about-it must blow your mind-just as much as it blows their minds, what I had learnt over the years-people are looking for simple answers because the Word of God is simple. People run away because people don't explain it the way the Lord had written it.
Jesus said if you don't come as little children, you will never enter the kingdom of God {Matthew 18:3}
And its a shame you don't want to go down that road and open up a new tread about end time news, you did say you have an interest in this end time theory , there's a lot going on, and someday the Lord will come back as He said He will, but in the mean time-we could stop hiding from under our beds and speak out into the open.

brocab:
people without the spirit of the Lord try to change the scriptures,

brocab:
And its a shame you don't want to go down that road and open up a new tread about end time news, you did say you have an interest in this end time theory , there's a lot going on, and someday the Lord will come back as He said He will, but in the mean time-we could stop hiding from under our beds and speak out into the open.

johnw74:


and that's what you are now going at great lenghts to do

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.





it's ridiculous to accuse that i'm scared to talk about end times, or about anything for that matter,
but you have now joined the club of false accusers, and why?
A. because i have endeavored to show you that you have said contrary to the Bible on two matters,
1. where you have wrongly used the Bible to show that Jesus is black when the verse doesn't show that at all
2. where u don't believe Bible verses showing that Jesus's Angel gave Revelation to John, but believe your own words instead

on both matters u have written much, opposing God's word, for your own
just like many others do

johnw74:


the end times-eschatology, is a subject i'm interested in
there are things happening in the world now that are hinting to the nearness of that time
the build up of russian forces and their allies along the syria Israerl border for one,
do you know of a good endtime forum?

johnw74:

bro, there would be no point in starting an end time thread on nairaland
just look at how the satanists jump in to derail:
https://www.nairaland.com/3994546/christ-ever-come

johnw74:


and that's what you are now going at great lenghts to do

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.





it's ridiculous to accuse that i'm scared to talk about end times, or about anything for that matter,
but you have now joined the club of false accusers, and why?
A. because i have endeavored to show you that you have said contrary to the Bible on two matters,
1. where you have wrongly used the Bible to show that Jesus is black when the verse doesn't show that at all
2. where u don't believe Bible verses showing that Jesus's Angel gave Revelation to John, but believe your own words instead

on both matters u have written much, opposing God's word, for your own
just like many others do

brocab:
{Revelation 1} John see's the glorified Christ in a Vision, Jesus is standing seven Golden lampstands, in His hand, Jesus holds the seven stars {Revelation 1:13, 16,20} In verse 20 Jesus explains the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in the right hand, and of the seven golden lambstands is this: The seven are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lambstands which you see are the seven Churches.
Now who did you say who's changing the scriptures?

brocab:

What do you call this?

johnw74:


duh, i call it truth, confused one

johnw74:


and still you continue to deny God's word:

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

brocab:
Am I also your enemy now?

brocab:
Please explain in your own words-stop the childish talk, really bro-I believed you had some sense. Its a big jump from {Revelation 1-to 22}

brocab:
Please explain in your own words-stop the childish talk, really bro-I believed you had some sense. Its a big jump from {Revelation 1-to 22}

johnw74:


and still you continue to deny God's word:

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

johnw74:



you brocab say standing for the truth of the Bible is childish talk and nonsense
but then you have become one of satans false accusers as most Bible opposers do

johnw74:


yes, all who put there own words before God's word are

brocab:
Don't call one the the Lord's children satanist-who do you think you are?

brocab:
You have never been the one who can explain yourself-but only insult others by throwing the Word of God-against them-you are a bible basher, explaining verses is some ones best tool to work with-don't just demand-Jesus didn't throw the Word against people-so why should you.
We are all learning about the Word of God everyday-but we can't learn around people like you, I had asked you to explain your own words how you see the scriptures-and this is how you respond.
So I will start to explain my bible of {Revelation 1} The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants-things which must shortly take place.
And He sent and signified it by His Angel to His servant John, Who bore witness to the Word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, and the all things that he saw.
{So the angel of the Lord showed John things}
{Verse 9} I John both your brother and companion in tribulation, and the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the Island that is called Patmos for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I was in the spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last and what you see write it in a book and sent it to the seven Churches.
{The angel stood beside John as John heard a voice behind him}
{Verse 12} Then I turned to see the voice that spoke to me, And having turned I saw seven golden lambstands, and in the midst of the seven golden lambstands one like the Son of Man, clothed in a garment down to His feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. His head and His hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eye's like a flame of fire.
{Verse 17} And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right Hand on me, saying to me, Do not be afraid: I am the First and the Last. I am He who Lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
Since you are having trouble explaining the scriptures-as I have asked you to do-Are you telling me, while John was standing with the angel-John didn't see Christ, It wasn't Christ that spoke behind him-that John turned around to see?
Which one of the angels did God give His authority too?

brocab:
Then you are not a true believer-Mr know it all.
Everyone of us learn the scriptures everyday-The lord uses us to learn and teach the word of God-but obviously you aren't neither of them.

johnw74:


yes, all who put there own words before God's word are

brocab:
Don't call one the the Lord's children satanist-who do you think you are?
You have never been the one who can explain yourself-but only insult others by throwing the Word of God-against them-you are a bible basher, explaining verses is some ones best tool to work with-don't just demand-Jesus didn't throw the Word against people-so why should you.
We are all learning about the Word of God everyday-but we can't learn around people like you, I had asked you to explain your own words how you see the scriptures-and this is how you respond.
So I will start to explain my bible of {Revelation 1} The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants-things which must shortly take place.
And He sent and signified it by His Angel to His servant John, Who bore witness to the Word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, and the all things that he saw.
{So the angel of the Lord showed John things}

brocab:
{Verse 9} I John both your brother and companion in tribulation, and the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the Island that is called Patmos for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I was in the spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last and what you see write it in a book and sent it to the seven Churches.
{The angel stood beside John as John heard a voice behind him}

brocab:
{Verse 12} Then I turned to see the voice that spoke to me, And having turned I saw seven golden lambstands, and in the midst of the seven golden lambstands one like the Son of Man, clothed in a garment down to His feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. His head and His hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eye's like a flame of fire.
{Verse 17} And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right Hand on me, saying to me, Do not be afraid: I am the First and the Last. I am He who Lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
Since you are having trouble explaining the scriptures-as I have asked you to do-Are you telling me, while John was standing with the angel-John didn't see Christ, It wasn't Christ that spoke behind him-that John turned around to see?
Which one of the angels did God give His authority too?

brocab:

You have never been the one who can explain yourself-but only insult others by throwing the Word of God-against them-you are a bible basher

brocab:
Johnw74 isn't done yet-I can say this-with all heart-Johnw74 is a true man of God" the love this man carries-his intentions are, he is trying to help save the lost, don't be fools-read your bibles, The Word Johnw74 say's are not his own Word's, but the Lord's Word alone.
All you need to do is listen to him, he has the evidence right in front of you.

johnw74:





ha ha, although the bolded is true, you mr lie, just say anything that suits you at the time
in other words you lie, and who is your father of lies

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

brocab:
At first this is what I wanted to believe, but with your so called attitude recently mouthing off-I just don't believe it.
I give everybody ago-but calling me a satanist-when I myself believe, I can't be bothered with people like you..
You aren't worth a argument.

brocab:
Don't call one the the Lord's children satanist-who do you think you are?
You have never been the one who can explain yourself-but only insult others by throwing the Word of God-against them-you are a bible basher, explaining verses is some ones best tool to work with-don't just demand-Jesus didn't throw the Word against people-so why should you.
We are all learning about the Word of God everyday-but we can't learn around people like you, I had asked you to explain your own words how you see the scriptures-and this is how you respond.
So I will start to explain my bible of {Revelation 1} The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants-things which must shortly take place.
And He sent and signified it by His Angel to His servant John, Who bore witness to the Word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, and the all things that he saw.
{So the angel of the Lord showed John things}
{Verse 9} I John both your brother and companion in tribulation, and the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the Island that is called Patmos for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I was in the spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last and what you see write it in a book and sent it to the seven Churches.
{The angel stood beside John as John heard a voice behind him}
{Verse 12} Then I turned to see the voice that spoke to me, And having turned I saw seven golden lambstands, and in the midst of the seven golden lambstands one like the Son of Man, clothed in a garment down to His feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. His head and His hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eye's like a flame of fire.
{Verse 17} And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right Hand on me, saying to me, Do not be afraid: I am the First and the Last. I am He who Lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
Since you are having trouble explaining the scriptures-as I have asked you to do-Are you telling me, while John was standing with the angel-John didn't see Christ, It wasn't Christ that spoke behind him-that John turned around to see?
Which one of the angels did God give His authority too?

brocab:
At first this is what I wanted to believe, but with your so called attitude recently mouthing off-I just don't believe it.
I give everybody ago-but calling me a satanist-when I myself believe, I can't be bothered with people like you..
You aren't worth a argument.