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The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by Zenanted(m): 3:37pm On Nov 04, 2012
The worst thing that can happen to a pastor is to breakaway a church he's under with some of the members of the same church without the blessings of his superior, therefore these consequencies shall befall them that do
1. Retribution: wat soever you sow you shall reap Gal 6vs7, its never the will of God for you to destroy another man's work ,therefore the foundation of your church will not stand because of the yoke bounding you from the heart of the superior pastor you detached from.
2.Restitution: even if the pastor decides to forgive you, it comes wit restitution which will be very difficult for you considering the level your new church has reached, even if you finally restitute, the souls of those lost due to the battle of conspiracy, trust lost, disregard to God's servants etc will definintly make some baby christians to backslide and the yoke of matt 18vs6 will hook on you which says 'who ever causeth the little ones to sin, t'll be better........
So it doesnt matter how your church is booming now because that day according to matt 7vs21-23 He'll say to you depart from me all ye workers of iniquity. though they preach by my name, make miracles, prophesied.matt 25vs41 concludes the whole issue. My dear pastor and aspiring church founders its better to start building your church from the scratch if you really want to than to breakaway because its repercussion you cant bear .so whats your say on this?
Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by staggerman(m): 3:53pm On Nov 04, 2012
No one really owns a Church. We are the Church. The True Sons of God.
Pastors in the Body of Christ should not claim control nor ownership of the Saints of God.

WE only come together for fellowship, not to pledge allegiance to any man or pastor.

The early Church was one. Even when the Corinthians tried to pledge allegiance to Paul or to Appolos, Paul called them babies. Paul didn't claim ownership over them when the opportunity arose to do so. He Said "I have planted, Appolos has watered, and God gave increase"

Remember that pastors are servants in the Church. They are not lords over the rest of the Body of Christ.
We should be concerned about serving one another, just as Jesus did and demonstrated in washing the feet of His early disciples. Pastors should quit arguing about members leaving their fellowship.

Finally, Christ built His Church in the hearts of men. He didn't erect building and call them church, neither did the early disciples. The Church was built in the hearts of men. The Kingdom of God came into men. Therefore, wherever these men went, the Church was there and the Kingdom of God was demonstrated through bearing each others burden and helping the needy, as well as demonstrating power over sin, sickness, and demons.

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Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by Joagbaje(m): 4:08pm On Nov 04, 2012
staggerman: No one really owns a Church. We are the Church. The True Sons of God.

The op didn't talk about ownership of church

Pastors in the Body of Christ should not claim control nor ownership of the Saints of God.

A pastor has sheep under him

WE only come together for fellowship, not to pledge allegiance to any man or pastor.

That doesn't take away the place of pastoral leadership

The early Church was one. Even when the Corinthians tried to pledge allegiance to Paul or to Appolos, Paul called them babies. Paul didn't claim ownership over them when the opportunity arose to do so. He Said "I have planted, Appolos has watered, and God gave increase"

The church has always been one. In this context ,he s dealing with "a local assembly" the local assembly are under different leadership but the body as a whole is under christ.

Remember that pastors are servants in the Church. They are not lords over the rest of the Body of Christ.
We should be concerned about serving one another, just as Jesus did and demonstrated in washing the feet of His early disciples. Pastors should quit arguing about members leaving their fellowship.

True

Finally, Christ built His Church in the hearts of men. He didn't erect building and call them church, neither did the early disciples.

But they still met in different buildings . Private homes and public buildings . Not a virtual cyber ,assembly

The Church was built in the hearts of men. The Kingdom of God came into men. Therefore, wherever these men went, the Church was there and the Kingdom of God was demonstrated through bearing each others burden and helping the needy, as well as demonstrating power over sin, sickness, and demons.

True

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Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by staggerman(m): 5:13pm On Nov 04, 2012
Joagbaje:


A pastor has sheep under him

Pastors are called to serve. To serve a local assembly is not the same as being in control of the members of that assembly. Believers are free to fellowship wherever and whenever they choose.


That doesn't take away the place of pastoral leadership

In the Body of Christ we have Servants called to serve. Jesus said "The least among you shall be the greatest in the Kingdom... Do not be like the world who lord over their subjects".



The church has always been one. In this context ,he s dealing with "a local assembly" the local assembly are under different leadership but the body as a whole is under Christ.

Every member in the Household of God is a minister. We are all called to serve with our different gifts, not to be served.



But they still met in different buildings . Private homes and public buildings . Not a virtual cyber ,assembly

Ask yourself, Which Assembly each of the early believers belonged to?
They fellowshipped with believers anywhere they met.
If a member of CEC is free to fellowship in any branch of CEC, should a member of RCCG not also be free (without attracting criticism from fellow members) to begin to fellowship in any CEC or Assemblies of God local assembly?

The Truth is, if we remove the various names and denominations, we will eventually find nothing wrong in fellowshipping with our brethren anywhere. How will it be if all the signboards and the names of all congregations and denomination became harmonized to just one name..THE SAINTS?

If the sign post of the RCCG assembly close to your house was changed to CEC, will you feel different to fellowship there?
What if the signpost on your CEC assembly is changed to DLBC, will your reaction to attendance change?
Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by Joagbaje(m): 5:32pm On Nov 04, 2012
^^^^

The different denominations have two sides. The carnal part . the different names dont necessarily mean they dont agree. its just a matter of name for the sske of registration with goverent .Some churches do actually flow together. Except the major divisions which is based on doctrines and revelations .

The early church had 2 major divisions . Peter / James vs paul . They had differences in doctrines based on revelation. Jerusalem church was more religious in doctrines while the gentile churches had liberty . It's the same today to an extent
Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by staggerman(m): 5:41pm On Nov 04, 2012
Joagbaje: ^^^^

The different denominations have two sides. The carnal part . the different names dont necessarily mean they dont agree. its just a matter of name for the sske of registration with goverent .Some churches do actually flow together. Except the major divisions which is based on doctrines and revelations .

The early church had 2 major divisions . Peter / James vs paul . They had differences in doctrines based on revelation. Jerusalem church was more religious in doctrines while the gentile churches had liberty . It's the same today to an extent

I'm glad we reason together. The point is, there is no law binding any believer to any particular assembly. Sons of God are free to fellowship wherever they feel comfortable and loved.

If they have decided to change assembly, they have committed no offense whatsoever in the sight of our Father. We have received Peace from God. We shouldn't trade that peace for anything. We do not need to be men-pleasers, staying in an assembly just so we won't be criticized if we tried to leave.

A believer in RCCG is free to start fellowshipping at CEC, or to devote his entire salary to care for a widow in CAC.
Re: The Worst Thing That Can Happen To A Pastor. by Joagbaje(m): 6:00pm On Nov 04, 2012
i dont think man can be productive in Gods kingdom by freelancing . There's place of submission to who has been made leader over you. Every pastor is not a mans pastor , a pastor is a father. Who feed a particular people under him, according to the grace upon him

Philippians 1:7
. . ., ye all are partakers of my grace.


Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you

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