stine b: If you are a born again christian, the first thing you should do is to pray and seek from God about any decision,rather than requesting answers from Nairalanders,were you will mostly get Ungodly advise from fools(Those who dont know God) and careless talkers.Nairaland is not synonymous with good suggestions when it concerns spiritual matters,because of their negative mindset about anything that relates to church and pastors. Lets be careful here because alot of demons are invading social medias to topple christians faith. Please ignore their ignorance and seek answer from Almighty God, and he will surely direct you. Refer to Psalm 1:1, 1 corinthians 15:33
Remain Blessed.

Long live all sincere and objective Nairalanders.

kuntash: Just imagine the manner the RCCG sounded as if thats the aim of your write up, I somewhat see this post as a way of terming the entire RCCG as a negligent entity.

why not simply put heading as " Having issues with Creche- Nailanders pls advice"

In my thinking, I dont know if u really need advice, if ur pikin no go toilet or eat, come nairaland and seek advice, ok?

yeye dey smell. so annoying

tatiana009:

You're the type who gives Christianity a bad name! A situation that calls for common sense you said she should go and pray....hisss. God has already called her attention to the danger her children are in my giving her a discerning spirit to pick up on the irregularities. Now it is up to her to use her God given sense and remove her children from danger. God gave us a brain for a reason but people like you should just donate yours since you obviously do not use it....hiss

debrief08: For where Richy, I avoid most "church" things like a plague, you can't ask questions or demand standards, I stick to old churches where Pastors and their wives are not gods who can't be touched or queried.
I give my best at work and demand the same whenever I am paying for a service. I don't play with my kids at all, I take time to go through things I need to and will never compromise their safety. For a mother whose child is at risk to be reluctant to act because it is "church" hurts me so much.
I am very rational and not carried away by cheap sentiments.I am regarded as "anti christ" in my office because I refused to approve "office feloowship" so people who have been paid to work will use work time to be praying and preaching. Do your religion at your own time, don't bring it and impose it on others, the only time I want to know if you are a christain or moslem is when you see office money and resist the temptation to steal and embezzle, the people who want to do fellowship are the same ones cursing you for not allowing them chop money. Forgive my digression Christainity these days hurts me abeg

7COLOURS: I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF RCCG AND BASED ON THIS, I DECIDED TO PUT MY THREE MONTHS OLD BABY IN A CRECHE OF THE CHURCH THOUGH NOT SAME BRANCH THINKING WE'LL GET THE BEST FROM THEM AND ALSO WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS BEEN RUN BY A CHURCH. NOT UP TO 2 MONTHS MY SON STARTED ATTENDING THIS CRECHE HE TOOK ILL, STOOLING, VOMITTING, ALWAYS WEAK, SLEEPING AND HAVING CATARRH.) THE SURPRISING THING IS THAT MY BABY DOESN'T SLEEP THE WAY HE DOES IN CRECHE ON WEEKENDS. WHEN I CHALLENGED THEM THEY DENIED GIVING THEM SLEEPING DRUGS BUT AFTER TIPING ONE OF THEM WITH MONEY, SHE TOLD ME THE TRUTH. I BECAME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THEIR SERVICE THUS I DECIDED TO PAY THEM A SURPRISE VISIT. I MET MY INNOCENT BABY CRYING ON THE BED AND PUTTING ON A WET CLOTH, ONE OF THEM SAID TO MY BABY NOT KNOWING I WAS CLOSE TO THE DOOR "CONTINUE TO CRY O, I DID NOT SEND UR MOTHER TO WORK" THIS IS A BABY THAT HAS BEEN ON ADMISSION AND HAS COLD. I REPORTED THE ISSUE TO THE SCHOOL AUTHORITY AND NOTHING MEANINGFUL WAS DONE INSTEAD THE CARETAKERS ON DUTY THAT DAY STARTED KEEPING MALICE WITH ME. TWO DAYS AFTER I WITHDREW MY CHILD FROM THERE AND THE COMPLAIN HAS BEEN ON THE HIGH SIDE FROM PARENTS THERAFTER.
MY CHILD ATTENDS ANOTHER CRECHE NOW AND THEY ARE REALLY TRYING. FUNNY ENOUGH THE MONEY WASN'T EVEN UP TO WHAT I USE TO PAY WHILE PATRONISING RCCG. PLEASE TAKE YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM THERE IMMEDIATELY. MIND YOU, THERE ARE DEMONS IN HUMAN'S CLOTHING IN CHURCHES OF TODAY. THE SO-CALLED CARETAKERS IN MY BABY'S FORMER CRECHE (RCCG) ARE WORKERS IN THE CHURCH. I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST

Sisi_Kill: When it comes to buying shoes, we are so selective and conscientious about it. To make sure it is just the right fit, we try it on over and over and over again, check it out from the left, check it from the right, check it out on tippy toes, check it out using a back mirror before paying for it and if, when we get home, we try it on again and notice it gives us a tiny pinch. . .we return it without a second thought. But it comes to Churches and the decisions we make when it concerns our papas, mama, mommies and daddies we hesitate even if it a matter of life and death.

The first day you got to the daycare and saw a teenager should have been the day you got to the bottom of it...No IF or BUT about it. Ideally, It is not even all the Adults who apply for jobs at daycare centers are hired because some aren't capable of the doing the tasks required of them. . .not to talk of a teenager. I don't know how many people have been to a daycare center at time other than nap time. . .it is a MAD HOUSE!!!

One child is spilling milk here, another is child is trying to lick it off the floor, yet another is trying to snatch the littler baby's bottle, one has dropped his cookie and wailing because it's what is soothing his hurting gums and the baby that just wants to be held all day is crying because you have put her down to check up on the other two fighting over the barney teddy bear that belongs to the little boy standing in the corner because he is shy for pooping in his diaper.

These are the things one deals with at a daycare center and if you don't have the psychological makeup to remain calm in the middle of chaos, you can lose it. This is also why the law requires that a certain number of children require so so number of teachers and nowhere in that equation does a teenager under 18 comes in. How is that girl gonna handle multiple crying babies?

Does she understand the importance of cleanliness? That you can't go from wiping one child's bum to feeding another without washing your hand? Yeah it sounds like something that should be common sense but in the middle of chaos, one tends to lose all rationality and taking your time to wash your hand properly when a child is seriously crying her eyes out just seems silly. All your thoughts are geared towards picking that child up and stop the crying. If many adults aren't capable of remaining calm, what do we expect a teenager to?

What about first aid? A child sees a small object on the floor, picks it up, throws it in her mouth and starts choking. . .what does the teenager do? Does she even know there are certain things that shouldn't be in the vicinity of a child. . .enough to quickly get rid of such things as soon as she sees it?!!

Everything I mentioned here is just a teeny tiny aspect of the entire task oh.

Honestly, If people really understood what it means to care for a child, they will know that not just anybody will do.

stine b:


By giving my own biblically based opinión,you accuse me of giving christians a bad name! However, i am not perturbed by your statement. If you are a true christian,you will agree with me that ín this end times, our common senses you talked about are even polluted, because our Faith is now being choked up with sights and common sense(Popular demand)
But we all need to be spiritually sensitive in all matters, no matter how small it may seem,ensure to enquire from God on the Way out or else the devil will give you a common sense solution that may appear wise ínitially, but at the end it will turn out a regret.
Refer to Exodus 18:15

coldgate: Thanks Nlders. After reading your comments, I began to ask myself the same Questions. I have also arrived at a conclusion.I would get my children outa there ASAP!. There truly shouldn't be any compromise where children are concerned. I totally agree that I am being sentimental because my church is involved. I will take my children away first, then I will offer my explanations to the 'Mummy' later.

Dee60: If this is truly coming from a mother, wouldn't she pay a surprise visit to the creche during the day to find out what's really happening? Would you get advice on how to be a true mother in NL?

Stop dragging the name of RCCG in the mud, and stop making unfounded indirect claims about pastors!

MsSantaClaus:

Madam, what about other people's children there? Don't you owe them a duty of care? It's your duty to speak out , not just take YOUR Child away. or is it when some other child gets hurt, you'll say to yourself Thank God it wasn't mine? Yet you knew something was not quite right! Na wa! What happened to being your brothers keeper? Or is the PASTORS WIFE's feelings more important than the safety of the children?

biolabee: What practical way can one do this without opening himself to lawsuits or ostracisation

MsSantaClaus:

Lawsuit and ostracization by whom? I'm talking about reckless endangerment of babies. Should whether or not you'll be ostracized or sued be an issue in saving lives? Or do we wait till something bad happens? What will your feelings be then? Or we will wait for a situation such as Jesssica Tata's to happen? http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/11/26/jessica-tata-nigerian-child-care-owner-in-usa-jailed-for-80-years-over-death-of-a-toddler-in-fire-breakout/

biolabee: You dont get tHe q

After i remove the baby, you suggested she gets other babies out...i said what is a practical way to do this

MsSantaClaus:

Maybe I didn't quite get you, but I mean the crèche should be exposed for bad practices. She can report to the church authorities with her findings first of all.after all from what I can see on this thread, it is obvious a lot of people assume the crèche belongs to the church. It therefore gives the church a bad name. Either the church publicly disassociates themselves from the ownership of the crèche or they call the real owner to order. If she wants to remain anonymous, she can report to a regulatory body. This is a school, and as such should be regulated by the education board I think.

WFE: @OP - is this about the creche or the church? Is your intention to gather stones for people whose favourite pass time is throwing stones at anything remotely associated with God.

There are 'millions' of creches all over the world with the same issues, you could have made your point without the 'church controversy'.