In this season, we begin an exposition of Hebrews chapter 7 where tithing (both the pre-law and according to the law) was disannulled, abolished and nullified. My exposition of Hebrews 7 is NOT to teach whether tithe was money or not, it is to reveal the truth that WHATEVER is called tithing, tithe or tenth has ended, set aside, nullified, abolished and disannulled both tithing, “before” or “pre” Law and tithing "according to the Law". I have heard many criticisms against me and other anti-tithe teachers in the past that we are stingy; we do not want to give our money to church or to God. This is a false allegation against our person. What I/we (anti-tithe teachers) believe is that, giving in the New Testament is according to Grace and not according to percentage nor according to the law. We believe the NT doesn't place a certain percentage to giving unlike tithe of the OT. We believe tithe according to the law was specifically from crops and animal but giving can be of/from anything including money.

I will like you to tell and/or invite your friends, family and neighbor(s) who are still being coerced and manipulated in their churches to follow and/view this thread for an eye opening truth and exposition. You can also invite your pastor(s) who teaches tithe in your local church to come partake and/or challenge the truth of this exposition that brought an end to tithing.

I will be doing the exposition verse-by-verse and presenting the truth/evidence where and how tithing (pre-law and law) was brought to and end. After each post or verse exposition, contribution, questions and criticism (not insult) is allowed for participation.

Hebrews chapter 7 is extremely important because it is the only New Testament scriptures that mention tithing (both the pre-law and according to the law) after Calvary! By this statement, I mean that, Jesus is the Mediator of the New Testament and as such, when Jesus was still physically walking the earth, the New Testament has not began and biblically speaking, the Old Testament was still in effect until after the death of Christ and resurrection.

For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. Hebrews 9:15-18 New International Version.

Although this chapter, Hebrew 7 is not primarily a discussion of tithing but it draws heavily from Numbers 18, which is the ordinance establishing the priesthood and tithing as tithing “according to or under the law” and also pin down on the "pre-law tithing or tithing before the law". It contrasts the mortal Aaronic priesthood, which was partially sustained by tithing principles (according to the law), with Christ’s Melchizedek priesthood (pre or before the law), which is eternal and is sustained by grace principles of the unlimited eternal power of God.

Also, let me state clearly that the writer of “The Letter to the Hebrews” did not set out to teach tithing as a topic or practice per say in Hebrews chapter 7 but to teach an in-depth exposition of the superiority or betterness of the priesthood of Christ for the New Testament believers compared to the Old Testament Levitical Priesthood that was established in the Pentateuch. However, tithing (both pre-law and according to law or during the period of law) was referenced because tithe/tenth also pertained to the Levitical Priesthood that is being discussed by the writer. There are many laws, ordinances and commandments that are inseparable from the Levitical Priesthood and one of such is tithe/tenth. So, one cannot discuss or teach the Levitical Priesthood in totality without mentioning or teaching tithe/tenth alongside because they are inseparable!

Once again, kindly tell and/or invite your friends to follow and/or participate in this thread on Nairaland even if they are not members, invite and/or tell family members and neighbor(s) who are still being coerced and manipulated in their churches to this thread for an eye opening truth and revelation. Also invite your pastor who teaches tithe in your local church to come partake and/or challenge the truth of this exposition that brought an end to tithing. I will be doing the exposition verse-by-verse and presenting the truth/evidence wherein and how tithing (both pre-law and law) was brought to and end. After each post or verse exposition, contributions, questions and criticism is allowed and welcomed for participation and teaching purpose.

...to be continue

count me in Gosh, count me in.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Image123: count me in Gosh, count me in.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Olodo aren't you tired of quoting this scripture that as been debunked several times as justification for tithing under the new covenant

Pastor Kun:

Olodo aren't you tired of quoting this scripture that as been debunked several times as justification for tithing under the new covenant

you're debunking Scripture?

Image123:
you're debunking Scripture?

Olodo I said 'debunked as justification for tithing under the new covenant' I know it is in your dubious character to quote people out of context but then again english comprehension might be your problem.

Pastor Kun:

Olodo I said 'debunked as justification for tithing under the new covenant' I know it is in your dubious character to quote people out of context but then again english comprehension might be your problem.

when, where and how was this assertion done please? You forgot the punctuation marks at home so its more difficult to read you properly, perhaps. i asked you a question if you can read.

Image123:

you're debunking Scripture?

Don't you know that Pastor Kun and his anti tithing gang specialises in "Scripture debunking" exercise?

OLAADEGBU:

Don't you know tht Pastor Kun and his anti tithing gang specialises in "Scripture debunking" exercise?

"THIS Scripture THAT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED SEVERAL TIMES". My brother, the thing trouble my cogitations small, i had to ask him to confirm.

Image123:

"THIS Scripture THAT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED SEVERAL TIMES". My brother, the thing trouble my cogitations small, i had to ask him to confirm.

I salute for that big grammar bolded above. It shows that you are true bible student.

OLAADEGBU:

I salute for that big grammar bolded above. It shows that you are true bible student.

don't make me blush bro, anti tithers fit start to vex.

Image123:

don't make me blush bro, anti tithers fit start to vex.

They are probably confused right now because they will be wondering where you got that anointed grammar from.

[size=16pt] For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. Hebrews 9:15-18 New International Version.[/size]

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Image123:
"THIS Scripture THAT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED SEVERAL TIMES". My brother, the thing trouble my cogitations small, i had to ask him to confirm.

Keep on showing your dis honesty as I already made myself very clear.

anyone who preaches every Sunday that you are under a curse because you do not tithe is either a FRAUD which is mostly the case or a deceived person.

frosbel:

anyone who preaches every Sunday that you are under a curse because you do not tithe is either a FRAUD which is mostly the case or a deceived person.

The Strawman fallacy.

Image123: count me in Gosh, count me in.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

@Mathew 23:23....oh sorry i meant @image123,

count into wetin? don't you have better thing to do with your time? like reading Mathew 24. It appears you are unable to progress beyond Mathew 23. abi na Mathew 23 your bible end?

First, @ Image123 and Olaadegbu,

Both of you look at this scripture starring at you in the face and tell the whole world that Matthew to John account are not part of the law (in content or context, not as per arrangement),

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

New International Version (©1984)
But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law,

New Living Translation (©2007)
But when the right time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman, subject to the law.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, - Galatians 4:4

Second, can any of you (Image123 and Olaadegbu) show us just one single scripture AFTER calvary and ressurection where Christians are instructed to tithe

Third, like I said in my OP, am not here to debate whether tithe (even as at/of Matthew 23:23) is still crops and animal meaning it was originally so, who are those being addressed by Christ in Matthew 23:23 When does the group being addressed in Matthew 23:23 become Christian example - ONLY in tithe matters

Four, Yes, it is true that Jesus told this group, "these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone". But look at Matthew 23:23 again

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

...and tell the whole world this verse is still not a matter of the law then as at when Christ spoke and he, Christ was also born under the law, cannot break the law, otherwise he would have sinned.

Tithing and offering existed before the law. They are both spiritual principles. There is never a place tithing was condemed . Jesus said men should tithe .

Work of ministry and welfare of priest were done through tithes and offerings . Same thing goes for the church today.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Why is tithes attacked? Why is offering not attacked? You can't separate the two. God said "you rob me in tithes and offerings"

@Goshen pls kindly educate us on this questions.

Is Tithing a Command or a law?
What is the difference between the commands as given by God and His laws?
Did Christ came to abolish the law or through Him the law will be fulfilled?
What was the laws he came to abolish and for what reasons(pls name them)?
Tithe was given for a cause, Is there a substitute for that cause?

Let us start from this question first.

It is always nice when we ask the sciptures questions when reading and studying, it gives us a better understanding and the motive for which it was written. It is when we get the context we have a better view of the mind of God concerning a particular issue as written.

When Solomon was building the temple of the lord, God specifically told him what he wanted. People where given in Gold, silver and the best of gifts from the Land to build for God. I believe they all saw it as part of what God wanted from them.

Tell me Goshen360 was all these abolished under your so called definition of the Law or was it part of God's Law?

Joagbaje: Tithing and offering existed before the law.

Many things like burnt offering also existed before the law. Animal Sacrifices existed before the law. Building stone altars existed before the law. etc. Christians will also do well doing all of these things sir. They are all types and shadows and all fulfilled in Christ.

What you call Church offering today is NOT according to the law but what the NT church used in the early church for sharing and distributions among the saints. Today's church offering doesn't even share anything among believers. Think about that.

Joagbaje: They are both spiritual principles.

Spiritual principles There is nothing spiritual giving - it is physical. Money is physical. Crops and animals are physical. The serve physical needs not spiritual. I don't understand this your "spiritual principle" stuff.

Joagbaje: There is never a place tithing was condemed .

Why don't you wait till we all finish our exposition in this Hebrews chapter 7 before you jump to conclude tithing still exist. Even to the Jews, tithing had come to an end, not to talk of Christians. I thought you wrote an article that the "Law is Abolished". So when the law is abolished, why do only tithe still remain. God has a financial plan for His church and it is achieved through giving - money, not crops and animal.

Joagbaje: Jesus said men should tithe .

Who are the men Jesus told to tithe His disciples or Christian....NT Christianity did NOT start until AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ. So who are the men Jesus told to tithe?

Joagbaje:
Work of ministry and welfare of priest were done through tithes and offerings . Same thing goes for the church today.

You need to put the above statement side-by-side with this your statement and let's screen both if they tally,

Joagbaje: Tithing and offering existed before the law.

Joagbaje:
Work of ministry and welfare of priest were done through tithes and offerings . Same thing goes for the church today.

I placed both statements together. Look at it, was Melchizedek that Abraham gave tithe to doing the work of the ministry Okay, we agree the priest of old are doing the work of the ministry, serving in the temple right. Okay. Now, you quoted 1 Corinthians 9:13-14,

Joagbaje:
1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

This verse is very clear enough but unfortunately has been the most twisted scriptures to justify tithing. Paul never mentioned tithe or tithing here. Paul clearly was making a comparison of those who "partake of things of the temple and altar" and how they are being cared for to "those who preach the gospel". Look at the scripture again, it say and compare....."live of the things of the temple and altar" COMPARED TO ...."live of the GOSPEL". Does living of things of temple and altar EQUALS live or living of the GOSPEL

@ brainpulse,

I will attend your kweshions intensively.

Zikkyy:

@Mathew 23:23....oh sorry i meant @image123,

count into wetin? don't you have better thing to do with your time? like reading Mathew 24. It appears you are unable to progress beyond Mathew 23. abi na Mathew 23 your bible end?

i've read 24. should i erase Matthew 23 from my Bible?

I'm supposed to be surprised that Gosh skips the part that says judgment, mercy, and faith are weightier parts of the law. If the foundation is destroyed, what exactly should i do?

Joagbaje:
Tithing and offering existed before the law.

if tithes and offering existed before the law nko? this is not news

Joagbaje:
They are both spiritual principles.

then teach it as spiritual principle. simple

Joagbaje:
There is never a place tithing was condemed .

nobody condemns the giving of tenth to the church. why would anybody condemn the act of giving? why? what is being condemn is the teaching that Christians are required to comply with the Mosaic tithe requirement, or that God demands tithe from Christians. Why is this so difficult for you guys to understand

Joagbaje:
Jesus said men should tithe .

Yes he did, he said the Jews should tithe in accordance with the Mosaic law. but as always (and as expected) your statement is not complete.

Joagbaje:
Work of ministry and welfare of priest were done through tithes and offerings . Same thing goes for the church today.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Priests lived of the items presented at the altar and in a similar way those that preach the gospel should live of the gospel. This means that those that preach the gospel are to obtain their livelihood from preaching the gospel. This could come in any form, the Lord did not mandate it should be in tithe and offerings.

Joagbaje:
Why is tithes attacked? Why is offering not attacked? You can't separate the two. God said "you rob me in tithes and offerings"

What do mean we can't separate the two? the larger chunk of the offerings in the Malachi verse refers to burnt offerings. Are you saying we can't separate separate burnt offerings from tithe?

Joagbaje:
Work of ministry and welfare of priest were done through tithes and offerings . Same thing goes for the church today.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

You talk about principle but don't recognize one when you see it. What do you think is the principle here?

Image123:
i've read 24. should i erase Matthew 23 from my Bible?

no be my fault. i don't think i have read you quoting anything after Mathew 23 before now

Image123:
i've read 24. should i erase Matthew 23 from my Bible?

If erasing Mathew 23 will free you from the tight grip of this pastoral fraud, please do

Goshen360:

Many things like burnt offering also existed before the law. Animal Sacrifices existed before the law. Building stone altars existed before the law. etc. Christians will also do well doing all of these things sir. They are all types and shadows and all fulfilled in Christ.

What you call Church offering today is NOT according to the law but what the NT church used in the early church for sharing and distributions among the saints. Today's church offering doesn't even share anything among believers. Think about that.



Spiritual principles There is nothing spiritual giving - it is physical. Money is physical. Crops and animals are physical. The serve physical needs not spiritual. I don't understand this your "spiritual principle" stuff.



Why don't you wait till we all finish our exposition in this Hebrews chapter 7 before you jump to conclude tithing still exist. Even to the Jews, tithing had come to an end, not to talk of Christians. I thought you wrote an article that the "Law is Abolished". So when the law is abolished, why do only tithe still remain. God has a financial plan for His church and it is achieved through giving - money, not crops and animal.



Who are the men Jesus told to tithe His disciples or Christian....NT Christianity did NOT start until AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ. So who are the men Jesus told to tithe?



You need to put the above statement side-by-side with this your statement and let's screen both if they tally,




I placed both statements together. Look at it, was Melchizedek that Abraham gave tithe to doing the work of the ministry Okay, we agree the priest of old are doing the work of the ministry, serving in the temple right. Okay. Now, you quoted 1 Corinthians 9:13-14,



This verse is very clear enough but unfortunately has been the most twisted scriptures to justify tithing. Paul never mentioned tithe or tithing here. Paul clearly was making a comparison of those who "partake of things of the temple and altar" and how they are being cared for to "those who preach the gospel". Look at the scripture again, it say and compare....."live of the things of the temple and altar" COMPARED TO ...."live of the GOSPEL". Does living of things of temple and altar EQUALS live or living of the GOSPEL

1. You have not really defined what God's Law is and you wrongly assumed that every and all activity and God's words and ways that existed before Christ are the law and they are automatically abolished. So it will be great for you and us to highlight all the laws given by God.

Pls i Will still come back. Excuse me for a while. thanks

Matt5:20..For I Say unto you,that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees,ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Verse41..And whoever shall compel thee to go a MILE,go with him TWAIN.
If our righteousness don't exceed that of any organization/fixed system we find ourselves in here on earth then,where is the fruit/proof of our christainity?.that is we(Christain) are compel to go more than a MILE(is the Law)
Christains are not surppose to PAY(10%)which is part of the law,we are obligated to GIVE(10% +)10% is the Law,but 10% + is Grace.

Goshen360: Although this chapter, Hebrew 7 is not primarily a discussion of tithing but it draws heavily from Numbers 18, which is the ordinance establishing the priesthood and tithing as tithing “according to or under the law” and also pin down on the "pre-law tithing or tithing before the law". It contrasts the mortal Aaronic priesthood, which was partially sustained by tithing principles (according to the law), with Christ’s Melchizedek priesthood (pre or before the law), which is eternal and is sustained by grace principles of the unlimited eternal power of God.

Also, let me state clearly that the writer of “The Letter to the Hebrews” did not set out to teach tithing as a topic or practice per say in Hebrews chapter 7 but to teach an in-depth exposition of the superiority or betterness of the priesthood of Christ for the New Testament believers compared to the Old Testament Levitical Priesthood that was established in the Pentateuch. However, tithing (both pre-law and according to law or during the period of law) was referenced because tithe/tenth also pertained to the Levitical Priesthood that is being discussed by the writer. There are many laws, ordinances and commandments that are inseparable from the Levitical Priesthood and one of such is tithe/tenth. So, one cannot discuss or teach the Levitical Priesthood in totality without mentioning or teaching tithe/tenth alongside because they are inseparable!

Once again, kindly tell and/or invite your friends to follow and/or participate in this thread on Nairaland even if they are not members, invite and/or tell family members and neighbor(s) who are still being coerced and manipulated in their churches to this thread for an eye opening truth and revelation. Also invite your pastor who teaches tithe in your local church to come partake and/or challenge the truth of this exposition that brought an end to tithing. I will be doing the exposition verse-by-verse and presenting the truth/evidence wherein and how tithing (both pre-law and law) was brought to and end. After each post or verse exposition, contributions, questions and criticism is allowed and welcomed for participation and teaching purpose.

...to be continue

u will pay the doctor for medical attention, u will pay the school for education,u will pay subscription for clubs but tithe is a stumbling block for u. are you not aware that permanent prosperity starts with paying ur tithe. jesus said the poor u will always have. dont believe in tithing so will poverty come like an armed bandit. u will spend ur money on unexpected things and emergencies cos God will collect what belongs to him for u rob Him. viewers dont be decieved by those who contend against kingdom principles.