2sexy: To each his own. I would have given more details but I cant do that now because I am on mobile.

But left for me a lone, I will prefer to have my kids do their primary and secondary education here before sending them to the US. I know of a woman, a nurse in US, who brought her 4 kids all the way from US to school here. Given, they were all born there. You think she and her husband is stupid for doing that?

My half American brother is a different thing. He was born here but spent all his years over there. Did he even bother to come look for his mother? I spent series of nights digging the internet in search for him when my mum couldnt bear it anymore till I found an email to reach him. I have seen people searching for their parent, they come all the way from UK, London etc just to find their parents.

But this particular guy never cared. No matter how hard I tried to make him understand his mother needed medical attention, did he care till my mum died in my arms. I watch life slowly snuffed out her helplessly. And not to mention that he is a medical doctor o.

Would you, under any circumstance allow your own mother go through that, even if she didnt raise you? I WILL BET MY LIFE THAT YOU WONT. Why? because there's this connection or bond we have as Nigerians raised in this country, even though things arent the way we want them to be.

brokoto: so those things we de watch for oyibo film dem na true true?

Efemena_xy: This is just sick

There are better ways to correct teenagers than this. Sure, this isn't physical abuse...it's emotional abuse! Stripping a young child of her dignity and publicly humiliating her this way?

Kobojunkie:
Sorry but "To each his own" only applies when you are working with valid opinions -- opinions that do not attempt to override facts.NOTE here that I compare your opinion with FACTS to arrive at it being INVALID. In your post, you suggested that raising kids the "Nigerian" way is the best way. However in the face of facts, there is absolutely no evidence to show or support your claim.

Picking one person's story and deciding to base everyone else's story on his is one of the best ways to ruin whatever else you have to say, especially if you started off with generalized statements and claims such as the one you made in your last post.

Again, in Nigeria, there are well over 70 million youths who were not only raised in Nigeria but raised the Nigerian way, who do not know their right hand from their left. Majority of them are considered Educated illiterates in their own country, and they remain largely unorganized, unfocused and unable to come together to push for change in their own country. You attempt to compare that to the number of youths in say a country like America where, even with the high crime rate, the vast majority of the youths are still more focused, more educated, and more sure of their futures than their "Nigerian-way" raised Nigerian youths. How dare you try to perpetrate such a ridiculous lie and then pretend it is just an opinion?

2sexy: Well, I wouldnt deny the fact America is better than Nigeria in many ways. And by the way, I was not generalising but speaking based on what I have experienced.

2sexy:
Talking about Nigerians not knowing their left from right, would that be the case if they had the same opportunity many Americans have today, yet some still dont know value of what they have?

2sexy:
I remember trying to knock some senses into the skull of an American girl less than 16 years of age. All she does is talk about love, boyfriends etc.

After a few lines of discussion between us, she did confess that its due to peer pressure wherein she was trying to do what her friends were doing. I also did find out that she didnt like her mother whom she probably stays with, and who wasnt doing her job in raising this girl well.

If Nigerians could have just 30% of the benefits currently enjoyed my American citizens, I doubt you would have the space to call them "educated illitrates"

and I never assumed my statement as facts, just my personal experience.
I still stand on my choice of raising my kids the Nigerian way if you so wish to call it that.

Are you a Nigerian?

Litmus: Grow them the Oyibo method and they end up like the animal written about below. If the guy below had been disciplined the Nigerian way he would not have acted like the beast he is.

Thug, 34, admits punching 16-year-old girl unconscious in shocking random street attack which was caught on CCTV

Michael Ayoade, 34, ran up behind Tasneem Kabir as she walked to college and smacked her around the head
Ayoade jogged away as the 16-year-old lay unconscious on the ground in Plaistow, East London
When arrested Ayoade told police he was intimidated by the petite teen and that 'she started it', Thames Magistrates' Court was told
[url]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237501/Thug-Michael-Ayoade-36-admits-punching-Tasneem-Kabir-16-unconscious-shocking-random-street-attack.html[/url]

Kobojunkie:

Are you saying this does not happen, right now in Nigeria at all? Young boys do not, out of the blues descend on gals to ra_pe and beat them to pulp in Nigeria, even today? What are you smoking??

Litmus:

I'm not one of those brainwashed by the constant negative crap you people post about Nigeria. I would place Nigerian cultural moral above that of those of the west anytime. If you want to indulge in compare the deviancy with me, i'm your poster.

This board gives all nationals the chance to have a go at Nigeria and Nigerians while cowardly hiding the truth of where they originate so don't let this discrepancy lull you into a false sense security.

Kobojunkie:

I don't care for brainwashing either. I care more about people ensuring that their grip on reality is still strong.

You claim Nigerian cultural moral, you place above that of those of the west anytime. Yet,in the same Nigeria where supposedly these morals you preach here exist and are more widely practiced(assuming again this is the best place to find it practised), morality remains at an all time low. You find all kinds of ills have become the near-norm in the daily lives of the children, their parents, and even the leaders.

Sure, I would like to engage an equally intelligent mind on this however, I am not going to waste my time if you are not interested in ensuring that you provided only FACTUAL information, and not manufactured gabbles you have so conveniently chosen to pacify yourself with. Those debates, in my experience, end up only a waste of people's times.

What false sense of security do you refer to please?

You did not answer the question I asked you earlier, by the way. Are you saying that there are no cases of young men molesting young ladies, in Nigeria today? Are you trying to tell us here that similar cases you described of the boy raised in the UK, never happens in Nigeria?

Litmus:
When those things happen in Nigeria they almost always done by people with no Nigerian Cultural references.

Kobojunkie:
Is this a joke?

What people in Nigeria are you referring to here?

Litmus:
The ones you are

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Litmus: Let's take the Alu incident everyone's favorite, look, Nigerians can't talk no more, look what they did, moment.What was cultural about the incident and what was not Western about it?

Kobojunkie:

You are not making any sense at all here.

You extracted a paragraph, or more,from a UK paper article on a Nigerian in the UK who attacked a girl, and you posited that the reason he did it was because he was not raised with Nigerian moral values and cultural references. I now asked you of similar cases which happen even more regularly in Nigeria, and you immediately claim that those crimes were perpetrated by people with no Nigerian cultural references. I asked you of examples of these kind of Nigerians, raised in Nigeria by Nigerian parents and living in Nigeria, and you point me to the Alu case, and ask me what was cultural about the incident?

I now asked you of similar cases which happen even more regularly in Nigeria, and you immediately claim that those crimes were perpetrated by people with no Nigerian cultural references.

Litmus:
Ok, i thought you were a fast thinker- so my fault, overestimated you. Let's go slowly.
What similar cases do you mean?

Kobojunkie:

Are you saying this does not happen, right now in Nigeria at all? Young boys do not, out of the blues descend on gals to ra_pe and beat them to pulp in Nigeria, even today? What are you smoking??

Kobojunkie: Kobojunkie:

Are you saying this does not happen, right now in Nigeria at all? Young boys do not, out of the blues descend on gals to ra_pe and beat them to pulp in Nigeria, even today? What are you smoking??

Litmus:
Be more specific, which boys descend on young girls in Nigeria,if you're not specific then i can only give you general answers such as the ones that you stated confused you.

Kobojunkie:

Boys, as in Nigerian youths across the country(from most every 37 states/territory), do it. There are reports of this happening in every angle of that country. So, again, please go right ahead and explain to us what your logic here is.

Litmus:
As far as Niraland is concerned, there are dragons in them there hills all over Nigeria, we need facts such as the one i posted so that we can examine them.

Kobojunkie:

Nairaland is website. The story from the UK you posted has little or nothing to do with Nairaland. The stories from across of Nigeria as well of similar crimes, have absolutely nothing to do with Nairaland. So I suggest you please get to answering the question, rather than continue this dilly-dally-ing which honestly I think I have I have near had enough of.

Litmus:
Let me help you out. Do you mean stuff like this?
Six Women Rape Man To Death In Nigeria: Uroko Onoka, Wealthy Nigerian In Bentue State, Killed By His Six Wives

http://www.ibtimes.com/six-women-rape-man-death-nigeria-uroko-onoka-wealthy-nigerian-bentue-state-killed-his-six-wives

Kobojunkie:

Are you saying this does not happen, right now in Nigeria at all? Young boys do not, out of the blues descend on gals to ra_pe and beat them to pulp in Nigeria, even today? What are you smoking??

Kobojunkie:

I made myself quite clear when I posted this earlier .. . .

I don't quite get what the confusion you are dealing with there is, but I would hope you would get to answering questions asked at some point. My questions have been direct and concise, so I see no reason for the delay on your part, in answering them appropriately, even to this second.

Litmus: When those things happen in Nigeria they are almost always done by people with no Nigerian Cultural references

Kobojunkie:
Is this a joke?

What people in Nigeria are you referring to here?

Kobojunkie:

Who are these Nigerians with Nigeria with NO CULTURAL REFERENCE. You made the claim that they do exist, and I ask you who they are since you seem to know of their existence. Please help us understand what it is you are trying to argue here.

Kobojunkie:

How in the world did you, a supposedly sane Nigeria, arrive at this nonsense of a conclusion? What evidence do you have of this claim that Nigerians, living in Nigeria(a country with cultural references up everyones wazzoo), who commit similar crimes are Nigerians with no Cultural reference?

Kobojunkie:

I don't care for brainwashing either. I care more about people ensuring that their grip on reality is still strong.
. . . .

Sure, I would like to engage an equally intelligent mind on this however, I am not going to waste my time if you are not interested in ensuring that you provided only FACTUAL information, and not manufactured gabbles you have so conveniently chosen to pacify yourself with. Those debates, in my experience, end up only a waste of people's times.

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