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UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by bilms(m): 11:20pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
The news reaching me right now says that, the UN had accepted palestine as a member state after conducting a voting excercise. Only 9 member voted against palestine,41 abstain and others voted in favor. Good development. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323751104578149193307234514.html 2 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 11:37pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
Justice prevailing gradually |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by elampiro(m): 11:46pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
I was going to create the topic. 194th state I guess. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 11:49pm On Nov 29, 2012 |
Palestine is voted as a non member "state". Nothing, substantially, has changed. 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 12:24am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Palestine is voted as a non member "state". Nothing, substantially, has changed.who told you there is nothing substantial you are obviously being guided by the us- isreali propaganda, for goodness sake this people who hitherto are known as an entity are now being recognized as a "state" which means country whether member or not I think that is great ,moreover this same pattern was used by un in 1947 to create the " state of israel". now the next step for palestine is to sue them in ICC. 6 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 12:35am On Nov 30, 2012 |
HAH: who told you there is nothing substantial you are obviously being guided by the us- isreali propaganda, for goodness sake this people who hitherto are known as an entity are now being recognized as a "state" which means country whether member or not I think that is great ,moreover this same pattern was used by un in 1947 to create the " state of israel". Israel can also sue them for them as well. In 1948, Israel was recognised as a full member state. Palestine is not accorded such a recognition. Palestine is more or less like vatican without military, foreign policy and anything substantial. It does not change the facts and realities on ground. 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 1:14am On Nov 30, 2012 |
the whole world knows about the injustice being done to the palestine for goodness sake look at the countries that voted against palestine : israel,usa,canada,panama,nauru,micronesia,czech rep,palau and marshal island. the rest of the cohort who know the truth but for the fear of america decided to abstain. well thank God Nigeria voted for palestine 12 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 1:18am On Nov 30, 2012 |
HAH: the whole world knows about the injustice being done to the palestine for goodness sake look at the countries that voted against palestine : israel,usa,canada,panama,nauru,micronesia,czech rep,palau and samoa. the rest of the cohort who know the truth but for the fear of america decided to abstain. well thank God Nigeria voted for palestine Many countries that voted for Palestine made it abundantly clear they were not voting for Palestine as a full member state. Listen to individual justifications of member states. I don't know your definition of truth 2 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 1:25am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Prof Corruption:if not because of the injustice called veto power in the security council they would have been full members, but you know a journey of a thousand mile begins with a step and i believe this is a bold step by palestine. my guy why do you support this apathied, well your name says it all "prof corruption" lol 4 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 1:29am On Nov 30, 2012 |
HAH: if not because of the injustice called veto power in the security council they would have been full members, but you know a journey of a thousand mile begins with a step and i believe this is a bold step by palestine. What's the injustice in the security council? No country in the world is forced to be part of UN. Each member surrenders her sovereignty to UN with full awareness of veto wielding powers of favored five. You can't term veto injustice in that sense. Palestine will get a state if US approves, otherwise it's nothing but an illusion. There is no apartheid in Middle East. It's all media creation. 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 1:44am On Nov 30, 2012 |
if what is happening in palestine is not apathied then I don't know what apatheid is ? this peoples ancestral home were taken away by the un and given to jews because of some fairy tales of 3000 years ago, upon that they start to maltreat and sagregate them with the backing of usa and you tell me this is not apatheid. the good news is that the jews are gradually losing their powers in america, very soon the us govt will realize the embarassment the israeli are causing them and they will abandon them. 6 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 1:54am On Nov 30, 2012 |
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Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 1:59am On Nov 30, 2012 |
HAH: if what is happening in palestine is not apathied then I don't know what apatheid is ? this peoples ancestral home were taken away by the un and given to jews because of some fairy tales of 3000 years ago, upon that they start to maltreat and sagregate them with the backing of usa and you tell me this is not apatheid. Ancestral home? Do Jews living in Israel now learn Hebrew from Palestinians? How many times have Jerusalem been captured and re-captured? Who is the original owner? Do you know that West Bank was captured from Jordan and that Egypt once ruled Gaza before it was captured in 1967? Who are the Palestinian people? 3 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 2:18am On Nov 30, 2012 |
For israel to be culled out of palestine in 1948 by UN is like today" because of segregation you bring black americans back to africa and let say taking south-south Nigeria and giving them since their ancestors 300 years ago were enslaved. and even after we agree that they should be given theland they start encroaching on south east. and soth west with the backing of US. to an extend they almost capture the entire country. Don't you think we Nigerians will do anything to see that to protect ourselves and get our land back. 8 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Cunninlingus: 2:27am On Nov 30, 2012 |
The rise of the beast
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Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Whobedatte(m): 2:31am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Welcome development i must say Palestines deserves more due to apartheid that has ravaged their nations for years. Whether the US,canada and co voted against them is subsservient! |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Cunninlingus: 2:31am On Nov 30, 2012 |
I foresee an Arab contingency alliance in the near future declaring war on Israel after prompting the Independent and troll bait Palestine Nation to agitate Israel. Israel will stick kick their a55 all over again like in 67. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:32am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Nothing special but anything is better than nothing... I'll like see how the whole thing plays out, however, Palestine would have to compromise and will probably lose Jerusalem... This is more reason why they need to pray for Israel to self-destruct and attack Iran, that's the only country in the ME that can get Israel off their back... |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Cunninlingus: 2:33am On Nov 30, 2012 |
shymexx: Nothing special but anything is better than nothing... You are such a pathetic f00l. Stay out of issues that neither concerns you or of which you know little or nothing of. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:34am On Nov 30, 2012 |
HAH: For israel to be culled out of palestine in 1948 by UN is like today" because of segregation you bring black americans back to africa and let say taking south-south Nigeria and giving them since their ancestors 300 years ago were enslaved. and even after we agree that they should be given theland they start encroaching on south east. and soth west with the backing of US. to an extend they almost capture the entire country. Don't you think we Nigerians will do anything to see that to protect ourselves and get our land back. What a ridiculous comparison? How did the expansion happen? Did Israel just annex thw whole land? Who launched war against Israel in 1948? in 1967, 1973? If SE or SW repeatedly launched war against SS, would it be out of place for SS to annex part of such territories as buffer zones? The essential fact has been implied in your response. You agreed, implicitly, that the black Americans were initially taken from Africa and rightfully returned to Africa. So the whole hullabaloo about territory expansion is nothing but a product of war. Capturing territories through war is not an Israeli invention. It has been since time immemorial. How did the Ottoman empire capture the present day Israel? Was it through peace or empire expansion executed via war? Who in the world is not aware that the word black is nothing but Africa? No matter where you are, once you are black, you share a peculiar history with Africa. Tell me where Hebrew is synonymous with? Caribbeans? America? Africa? 10 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by miqos02(m): 2:37am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Good for them 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:37am On Nov 30, 2012 |
shymexx: Nothing special but anything is better than nothing... Reasonable. That's why the Israeli ll not attack Iran without an understanding with US.The only Islamic state capable of challenging Israel is Iran. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:38am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Cunninlingus: Who the fvck are you? - Another bible thumper who thinks Yisrael is the promised land, no? And the Jews are the chosen people?? Bwahahahahahahaha You'll wait forever for rapture... 7 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:39am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Palestine would have to compromise and will probably lose Jerusalem. That's the bone of contention. Neither side wants to lose Jerusalem. Both sides have emotional attachment. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:42am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Israelis are not suicidal - they know they'll lose most of the occupied territories and Golan Heights, with all the fresh water there... Perhaps, that's why they're trying to lure the Americans into doing their dirty work for them... 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:48am On Nov 30, 2012 |
shymexx: Excellent. They know any war with Iran ll not be one sided and in any event of "Arab Solidarity", strategic locations like Golan heights ll be lost. But they know America can take care of Iran without significant dent and ME political structure ll be, essentially, intact. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Cunninlingus: 2:53am On Nov 30, 2012 |
shymexx: go fark a goat. |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 2:54am On Nov 30, 2012 |
I see another war breaking out btwn isreal and the arabs. this time, isreal will get back sinai and other arabs will go down begging again. but this time it shall be different, since the world doesnt want to put the security of isreal as a their responsibbility, let not drum support for negotiation when isreal reclaim the greater jewish land and establish everlasting soverignity. Do palestinians want a state? who will fund them? how willl they get resources? will they continue depending on aids? think again. Bilad shams are the most corrupt arabs. they will continue selling out. shiiiit. 1 Like |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by HAH: 2:54am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Did you know that Israel allots 85% of the water resources for Jews, and the remaining 15% is divided among all Palestinians in the territories? For example in Hebron, 85% of the water is set aside for about 400 Jewish settlers, while the remaining 15% is distributed among Hebron's 120, 000 Palestinians? Did you know that the United States awards Israel $5 billion in aid each year from American tax dollars? Did you know that US aid to Israel ($1.8 billion annually in military aid alone) exceeds the aid the US grants to the entire African continent? This aid is used both to buy American weaponry and to buy arms made in Israel. Did you know that Israel is awaiting an additional $4 billion worth of American military hardware, including new F-16s and Apache and Blackhawk helicopters. As Israel's main ally and supporter internationally, the United States is committed to maintaining the Jewish state's "qualitative edge" in weapons over its neighbours. Did you know that the U.S. administration has notified Congress on numerous occasions that Israel has violated the rules on how US-supplied weapons are used? (In 1978, 1979 and 1982 during fighting in Lebanon, and once after Israel's bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981.) Did you know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections from its sites? Did you know that Israel blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a US warship in international waters (the USS Liberty), killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors and the US did nothing about it? (Imagine if an Islamic country like Iraq did this!) Did you know that Israel stands in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council Resolutions? Did you know that Israel's current Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found by an Israeli court to be "personally and directly responsible" for the Sabra and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon where more than a thousand innocent Palestinian men, women, and children were axed to death or lined up and shot in cold blood? Did you know that on May 20, 1990, a group of unarmed Palestinian labourers were lined up and murdered by an Israeli solider as they sat waiting for transportation back to Gaza? The terrified labourers who gathered in an area of southern Israel known as Rishon Lezion (known to Palestinians by its Arabic name Oyon Qara) handed their ID cards to the Israeli soldier. The soldiers ordered the distressed labourers to kneel down and face the ground and unexpectedly showered them with a barrage of bullets, killing seven and wounding many others. Needless to say, the soldier was not charged with any crime. Did you know that until as recently as 1988, Israelis were permitted to run "Jews Only" job ads? Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US public relations firms to promote a "positive image" of Israel to the American public? Did you know that Sharon's coalition government includes a party--Molodet--which advocates ethnic cleansing by openly calling for the forced expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories? Did you know that recently-declassified documents indicate that David Ben-Gurion approved of the forced expulsion of Arabs from all Palestinian territory in 1948? Did you know that the former chief rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who is also a founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party (Israel's third largest political party) openly advocates a 'Final Solution' to annihilate the Palestinians? Speaking at the widely broadcast sermon marking the last Passover, he declared of the Palestinians: "The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable." Did you know that Palestinian refugees make up the largest portion of the refugee population in the world? Did you know that Palestinian Christians are considered the "living stones" of Christianity because they are the direct descendants of the disciples of Jesus Christ? And the Palestinian Christians stand united with their Muslim brethren in the struggle against the Israeli occupation. Did you know that despite a ban on torture by Israel's High Court of Justice, torture has continued unabated by Shin Bet interrogators on Palestinian prisoners? Did you know that despite every Israeli attempt to disrupt Palestinian education, Palestinians have the highest ratio of PhDs per capita in the world? Did you know that the right of self-determination is guaranteed to every human being under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights [December, 1948], yet Palestinians were/are expected to negotiate for this right under the Oslo Accords? Did you know that despite what is widely perpetuated and written in the history books that the Arabs attacked Israel in the 1967 war, it was Israel who attacked the Arab countries first, capturing Jerusalem and the West Bank, and called the attack a pre- emptive strike? Did you know that, as an occupying power, Israel has a particular responsibility under the Geneva Conventions to protect Palestinian civilians? Did you know that, despite Ariel Sharon's public call for a unilateral ceasefire, Israeli soldiers have not stopped shooting, killing or bulldozing Palestinian homes? The most recent example of this is the murder of three innocent women who were shot by an Israeli tank as they sat in their tent! http://ahsanjehangir..com/2012/11/israeli-international-terrorism-since.html?m=1 6 Likes |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Everest9(m): 3:02am On Nov 30, 2012 |
good for them |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by tonyflez(m): 3:02am On Nov 30, 2012 |
Cunninlingus: |
Re: UN Declares Palestine As Non-Member State by Nobody: 3:07am On Nov 30, 2012 |
@HAH Interesting. Tell, did Israel force US to giver her aids? Did Israel force US to deny Palestinians aids? Is US a puppet or vassal state to Israel? Who should be the priority of Israel-her citizens or the folks that swore to her destruction? You want Israel to give them 85% and give her citizens 15%? You mentioned extremists on the Israeli side but remained silent about Hamas refusal to recognize the very existence of Jewish people. If Israel pays PR firms to promote positive image in US, why is Palestine not doing the same thing? Is Israel also preventing them from doing the same? If Israel attacked US but there was no retaliatory response from US, how is that your problem? If US is doing all these stuffs for Israel, what prevents other strong nations from doing same for Palestine? 4 Likes |
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