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Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 5:46pm On Dec 05, 2012
The NIV and NASB
are the same
bibles as the
Jehovah Witnesses'
NWT
Good morning . Id like to ask all of the
readers who use the NIV as their final
authority if they consider the Rusellites,
better known as the Jehovah's witnesses, a
cult, or do you call them your brothers?
The reason why I'm asking this question is
because I'd like to show the NIV reader
who believes JW's are deceived just what he
is up against if he tries to preach to them
using the NIV. Id also like to show why it is
that so many people are calling these
deniers of the truth about Jesus 'brothers
in Christ.' I shall be able to show both of
these points at the same time, for I will
prove that there is very little difference
between the NIV and the Jehovah Witness'
bible. When a JW says 'the bible' he means
The New World Translation. According to
the 1984 Edition of the New World
Translation, in the forward by the New
World Bible Translation Committee, June 1,
1984, it describes all of the revisions that
they've made over the years. This
committee reveals itself to us clearly, when
it states, and I quote
"In 1969 the Committee released 'The
Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the
Greek Scriptures, which presented under
the Greek text revised by Westcott And Hort
(1984 reprint) a literal word for word
translation into English"
Now we have here the open admission that
the New World Bible Translation Committee
used these corrupt texts penned by these
two corrupt and unfaithful men. Note also
that they say 'a translation of THE Greek
Scriptures' as if there were only one set of
Greek texts. They certainly wouldn't
mention the Textus Receptus to these poor
followers of Russell and Rutherford. For if
they knew there was another word out
there that contradicted their own, they
would KNOW BELIEVE and UNDERSTAND as
it says in Isaiah 43:10 that Jesus most
assuredly DID say WHO HE WAS. John 8:58
says "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I
say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. "
The Rusellites have distorted these
beautiful and simple words of our Lord
into "Jesus said to them: Most truly I say to
you, before Abraham came into existence, I
HAVE BEEN."
People, I hope you heard that. I HAVE
BEEN? My GOD is not a HAVE BEEN! When
Moses was on the mount before God, and
asked Him what to tell the people when
they asked who God was, Did God say 'I
HAVE BEEN THAT I HAVE BEEN?' NO!!! Did
he tell Moses to tell them "I HAVE BEEN
HATH SENT THEE'? NO!! The word of God in
Exodus 3:14 says And God said unto Moses,
I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you. And by the way, do
you think "before Abraham came into
existence" is easier to understand than
"before Abraham was"?
Anyway, if the I AM in Hebrews 8;58 is
changed, the reference to exodus 3:14 is
LOST, and anyone reading it that way will
not know that Jesus is the I AM in John 8:58
and the SAME I AM that spoke to Moses
from the burning bush.
People listen carefully and hear what the
New World Translation gives to the people
in their version of exodus 3:14! "At this God
said to Moses; "I SHALL PROVE TO BE
WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE"! And he
added "this is what you are to say to the
sons of Israel, 'I SHALL PROVE TO BE has
sent me to you.'"
Oh my!! Isaiah 8:20 of the King James bible
is the first verse that comes to mind, for it
says "To the Law and to the testimony, if
they speak not according to this word, it is
because there is no light in them." The
lights are out for sure on this one, people!
Another thing about the new world
translation I'd like to point out to you is
that it contradicts itself concerning their
Jehovah and their Jesus. In Deuteronomy
32:39 of the NWT, it says "see that now I - I
am he, And there are no gods together with
me. ..." But in John 1:1 of the NWT, it says,
"In the beginning the Word was, and the
Word was with God and the Word was a
god." Hear the contradiction? are there no
gods together with him, or is there a god
with him?
Now, NIV reader, or NASB reader, or even
Catholic New American Bible readers, this
question is for you...what if you were faced
with the situation of having to PROVE to
any Jehovah's Witness that Jesus Christ is
truly God? Lets find out. If you were to
quote the following verses to a JW, by the
time it was all over you might be asking
yourself if YOU aren't a JW and just didn't
know it!
In the NWT of Luke 2:33 we read this: "And
ITS FATHER and mother continued
wondering at the things being spoken
about IT." In the NIV of Luke 2:33, we read
the following: "The child's father and
mother marveled at what was said about
him."
And finally, let us hear the word of God,
Luke 2:33 "And JOSEPH and his mother
marveled at those things which were
spoken of him." (KJV)
Wow folks did you hear that? The NIV and
the NWT BOTH say 'father' instead of
JOSEPH. Is Joseph Jesus' father? NO!! If he
were, Jesus would not be the only
BEGOTTEN Son of God. The NWT makes it
even worse by calling HIM, Jesus, and "IT".
(IT?? Is this for the benefit of those freaks
out there who think Jesus is an extra-
terrestrial?) Speaking of Begotten, lets look
at John 1:18 for a moment.
The NWT of John 1:18 reads: "No man has
seen God at any time; the only begotten
god which is in the bosom [position] with
the father is the one that has explained
him."
Let me point out that the 'only begotten
god' is with a small 'g', which helps out the
Rusellite position that Jesus is just a 'little
god'.
Now lets look at the NASB: "No man has
seen God at any time; the only begotten
God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He
has explained [Him.]"
Look at that! The NASB has a begotten God
too. Granted, this 'god' gets a capital 'G',
but unless I forgot how to count, I see TWO
GODS here!!
The NIV changes this ever so slightly, so as
to give the illusion it is not in agreement
with these. "No one has ever seen God, but
God the One and Only, [5] [6] who is at the
Father's side, has made him known." See?
only God the one and only has seen God.
Looks like two gods in the NIV too.
Finally people, let us hear the word of God,
John 1:18: "No man hath seen God at any
time; the only begotten Son, which is in the
bosom of the Father, he hath declared
him."
Amen!
Lets now compare 1Timothy 3:16
The NWT says "Indeed the sacred secret of
this godly devotion is admittedly great. HE
was made manifest in the flesh..." The NIV
says "Beyond all question, the mystery of
godliness is great: HE [6] appeared in a
body..."
HE? HE WHO?? Did you know that in the
doctrines of the New Age movement, they
say that 'Christ' really means 'Christ
Consciousness' and that this is something
any person can achieve for themselves?
They further state that several people
managed to have the "Christ
consciousness', including Buddha,
Confucius, Jesus, and Mohammed. So, for
the New Ager, the either of the two modern
versions quoted here would be suitable for
them, because neither of them make the
designation of who HE is...HE could be
ANYBODY!! The NIV even further magnifies
this new age belief by stating that this
undesignated "HE" just APPEARED in a
Body! The JW has no problem denying Jesus
is God here because there is no designation
for HE in the NWT either. Finally, The KJB
says "Without Controversy great is the
mystery of godliness...GOD was manifest in
the flesh..."
Every one of these new versions says "HE"
instead of GOD. Is there any doubt about
WHO was manifest in the flesh, when one
is reading the King James Bible? JESUS was
the flesh of God...GOD was manifest in the
flesh, not some unnamable "HE" (which the
New Agers call the "unknown and
unknowable"wink and certainly not Buddha or
Krishna or Confucius like the New Age
would have us believe! There are hundreds
of other verses where 'Jesus' or 'Lord' or
'Christ' or 'God' has been replaced with
'HE', including Acts 4:24, and Mark 13:6.
And, people, don't go looking in the new
versions for the Godhead, because he's
NOT THERE!!
There are three references to the word
'Godhead' in scripture. Acts 17:29, Col 2:9,
and Rom.1:20 The NWT and NIV are
IDENTICAL in their changing of the word
Godhead into DIVINE BEING. Let me point
out that its no surprise that the Rutherford
version changes this, as they are deniers of
Jesus anyway. But why does the NIV read
identically? Why? because people they used
the SAME CORRUPT TEXTS!! The same spirit
that questioned and changed God's word
clear back in the garden is in these modern
versions. The same spirit of antichrist, that
denieth the Father and the Son, dwells in
these perverted "bibles"!!
Lets move on now to Ephesians 3:9. There
is a key piece of information REMOVED
from this verse in the new versions.
The NWT of Eph 3:9 reads:" And should
make men see how the sacred secret is
administered which has from the indefinite
past been hidden in God who created all
things."
The NIV reads: Ephesians 3:9 "and to make
plain to everyone the administration of this
mystery, which for ages past was kept
hidden in God, who created all things."
The
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 5:55pm On Dec 05, 2012
The NIV reads: Ephesians 3:9 "and to make
plain to everyone the administration of this
mystery, which for ages past was kept
hidden in God, who created all things."
The NASB and the Catholic NAB are also
missing the same key piece of information.
What information is that? Lets see what the
word of God tells us:
The KJB says: Eph 3:9 "And to make all men
see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath
been hid in God, WHO CREATED ALL
THINGS BY JESUS CHRIST."
There it is people. 'By Jesus Christ' is the
information missing from the new versions.
We know from the true word of God, that
Christ made all things, and NOTHING was
made without him. (John 1:3, KJB)
Another place where the new versions
agree with each other, including the NWT,
and disagree with the King James Bible is in
Philippians 2:6:
The NWT says "who, although he was
existing in God's form, he gave no
consideration with seizure, namely, that he
should be equal to God." NIV says "Who
being in very nature god, did not consider
equality with God something to be
grasped."
Now lets look at these two carefully. They
appear to be different, but they are both
making the same statement. The NWT says
"gave no consideration...that he should be
equal to God"...and the NIV says "did not
consider equality...something to be
grasped." Both of these version say he did
NOT consider himself equal with GOD or
even able to 'grasp' or 'seize' such a
notion. But listen to the Word of God,
people, for it again leaves no doubt about
who Jesus said he was.
The King James says, Philippians 2:6 "Who,
being in the form of God, thought it not
robbery to be equal with God:"
Jesus did NOT consider it ROBBERY TO BE
EQUAL. Its not that he DID NOT CONSIDER
being equal with God...but considered it
NOT ROBBERY to BE EQUAL with God. So it
boils down to, to be, or not to be...that IS
the question! And the King James Bible has
THE ANSWER!!
So the new version reader who believes the
Jehovah's witness is deceived, by now must
be able to see that these are in agreement
with each other. A clever JW, and they are
clever, could use this agreement between
bibles as an opportunity to sway someone
to Kingdom hall. All he would have to do is
say, See? we believe the same thing. Our
bibles tell us so!
Finally dear readers, let's look at one more
verse. This verse is from the glorious book
of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Hear how
the new versions, including the NWT
butcher this one:
The NWT says in Revelation 1:11 "saying,
What you see write in a scroll and send it
to the seven congregations..."
The NIV says "which said, "write on a scroll
what you see and send it to the seven
churches."
The NASB says "saying, Write in a book
what you see, and send it to the seven
churches."
But the KJB says " Saying, I am Alpha and
Omega, the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and send it
unto the seven churches..."
Now, because the Jehovah's witnesses
openly and publicly deny Jesus Christ is
God, its not a big mystery why they would
wrench 'Alpha and Omega' from the
scriptures. What about the others? What
purpose would they have to hide the fact
that Jesus Christ is God? Perhaps it was
because the men behind the Greek texts
ALSO publicly denied Jesus Christ is God.
The translators of the NIV were sodomites,
heretics, and obviously staunch ecumenists.
This ecumenism has swept the world. How?
The modern perversions! So, NIV, NASB
and other modern version readers, the
next time a JW comes knocking on your
door, will you have any other choice but to
slam the door in their faces? Did you know
that ALL of the verses that are completely
OMITTED and wiped out from the NWT are
ALSO completely wiped out from the NIV?
Verses like Matt 18:11, Luke 17:36, Romans
16:24, 1John 5:7, and many many others?
You couldn't preach to them the true
doctrines of Christ and try to win them to
the truth! The bibles you and they use are
from the SAME Greek texts created by the
SAME men who say the SAME things against
our Lord, our God, Jesus Christ. I sincerely
hope you will take up a study between the
New world translation and the other
modern versions. Add it to your list of
bibles in agreement with you and against
the King James Bible. If you say the JW's are
deceived, maybe even a cult, you are
correct. But you will never be able to prove
it using the modern bibles.
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 5:55pm On Dec 05, 2012
The NIV reads: Ephesians 3:9 "and to make
plain to everyone the administration of this
mystery, which for ages past was kept
hidden in God, who created all things."
The NASB and the Catholic NAB are also
missing the same key piece of information.
What information is that? Lets see what the
word of God tells us:
The KJB says: Eph 3:9 "And to make all men
see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath
been hid in God, WHO CREATED ALL
THINGS BY JESUS CHRIST."
There it is people. 'By Jesus Christ' is the
information missing from the new versions.
We know from the true word of God, that
Christ made all things, and NOTHING was
made without him. (John 1:3, KJB)
Another place where the new versions
agree with each other, including the NWT,
and disagree with the King James Bible is in
Philippians 2:6:
The NWT says "who, although he was
existing in God's form, he gave no
consideration with seizure, namely, that he
should be equal to God." NIV says "Who
being in very nature god, did not consider
equality with God something to be
grasped."
Now lets look at these two carefully. They
appear to be different, but they are both
making the same statement. The NWT says
"gave no consideration...that he should be
equal to God"...and the NIV says "did not
consider equality...something to be
grasped." Both of these version say he did
NOT consider himself equal with GOD or
even able to 'grasp' or 'seize' such a
notion. But listen to the Word of God,
people, for it again leaves no doubt about
who Jesus said he was.
The King James says, Philippians 2:6 "Who,
being in the form of God, thought it not
robbery to be equal with God:"
Jesus did NOT consider it ROBBERY TO BE
EQUAL. Its not that he DID NOT CONSIDER
being equal with God...but considered it
NOT ROBBERY to BE EQUAL with God. So it
boils down to, to be, or not to be...that IS
the question! And the King James Bible has
THE ANSWER!!
So the new version reader who believes the
Jehovah's witness is deceived, by now must
be able to see that these are in agreement
with each other. A clever JW, and they are
clever, could use this agreement between
bibles as an opportunity to sway someone
to Kingdom hall. All he would have to do is
say, See? we believe the same thing. Our
bibles tell us so!
Finally dear readers, let's look at one more
verse. This verse is from the glorious book
of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Hear how
the new versions, including the NWT
butcher this one:
The NWT says in Revelation 1:11 "saying,
What you see write in a scroll and send it
to the seven congregations..."
The NIV says "which said, "write on a scroll
what you see and send it to the seven
churches."
The NASB says "saying, Write in a book
what you see, and send it to the seven
churches."
But the KJB says " Saying, I am Alpha and
Omega, the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and send it
unto the seven churches..."
Now, because the Jehovah's witnesses
openly and publicly deny Jesus Christ is
God, its not a big mystery why they would
wrench 'Alpha and Omega' from the
scriptures. What about the others? What
purpose would they have to hide the fact
that Jesus Christ is God? Perhaps it was
because the men behind the Greek texts
ALSO publicly denied Jesus Christ is God.
The translators of the NIV were sodomites,
heretics, and obviously staunch ecumenists.
This ecumenism has swept the world. How?
The modern perversions! So, NIV, NASB
and other modern version readers, the
next time a JW comes knocking on your
door, will you have any other choice but to
slam the door in their faces? Did you know
that ALL of the verses that are completely
OMITTED and wiped out from the NWT are
ALSO completely wiped out from the NIV?
Verses like Matt 18:11, Luke 17:36, Romans
16:24, 1John 5:7, and many many others?
You couldn't preach to them the true
doctrines of Christ and try to win them to
the truth! The bibles you and they use are
from the SAME Greek texts created by the
SAME men who say the SAME things against
our Lord, our God, Jesus Christ. I sincerely
hope you will take up a study between the
New world translation and the other
modern versions. Add it to your list of
bibles in agreement with you and against
the King James Bible. If you say the JW's are
deceived, maybe even a cult, you are
correct. But you will never be able to prove
it using the modern bibles.
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 4:56am On Dec 06, 2012
Truth will always prevail
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by ijawkid(m): 6:56am On Dec 06, 2012
SMH!!!!!!!........

And so which is the bible re-endition that fell down from the heavens??.........

It seems you really want me to expose every wayo found in the translation you might be using...........

Just tell me the bible rendition you are using and let's see if its perfect.....oYA!!!!........

If its the Kjv then you are in trouble......
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by Nobody: 6:58am On Dec 06, 2012
free123: Truth will always prevail

I don't think the bible is the final authority.
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 7:10am On Dec 06, 2012
ijawkid

u can do d exposition of any version u found wanting and from the article, it is clear the version i am using
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 7:12am On Dec 06, 2012
striktlymi:

I don't think the bible is the final authority.

what is ur final authority?
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by ijawkid(m): 7:23am On Dec 06, 2012
free123: ijawkid

u can do d exposition of any version u found wanting and from the article, it is clear the version i am using

And I can see its the KJV you are using that God directly dropped down from the heavens.......

Let me ask you:::::......are there translation flaws in the KJV that you know of especially when compared with the original hebrew and greek texts??..........
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 7:26am On Dec 06, 2012
bring out what u know and stop asking me questions
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by ijawkid(m): 7:35am On Dec 06, 2012
free123: bring out what u know and stop asking me questions

SMH!!!!!!...........

Answer my question and stop acting like a child..............
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by Nobody: 7:46am On Dec 06, 2012
free123:

what is ur final authority?

My final authority is God's spirit.
Re: Same spirit controls NIV, NASB and NWT by free123: 8:34am On Dec 06, 2012
ijawkid:

SMH!!!!!!...........

Answer my question and stop acting like a child..............

I know u have a problem brought about by ur frustration. keep acting like a kid instead of bringing out what u know.

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