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God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler by therationa(m): 1:04am On Feb 16, 2008
Apparently, it is God who is responsible for selecting the rulers of countries be they democratic or otherwise, dictators, tyrants or benign rulers. If this is the case, and given God's omniscience, you would expect God's selection procedure would ensure only the righteous and just are made rulers of their countries. However, this is not what really happens. From time immemorial, we have seen rulers pillage and destroy their countries, to the detriment of their own citizens; think of most of Africa. Nigeria is a case in point. One of the most religious nations on earth, with the level of privations not untypical of the 15 century. What is happening with God's ministration?

This is what the Apostle Paul had to say about the rulers of countries, Romans 13;

1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


In the light of the above, should an oppressed people seek to overthrow a corrupt and unjust ruler?

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Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler by TCUBE(m): 6:14am On Feb 16, 2008
amazing! were do u people get all this info?
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler by therationa(m): 10:48am On Feb 16, 2008
TCUBE:

amazing! were do u people get all this info?

It is all out there, libraries, bookshops etc. And learning who to think freely, without being encumbered by superstitious beliefs.
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler by stimulus(m): 11:11am On Feb 16, 2008
therationa:

And learning who to think freely, without being encumbered by superstitious beliefs.

Not that we have seen you think freely and been able to stand to defend your own assumptions. I keep asking you that one very thing - and I'm not disappointed that you have repeatedly ducked the offer to debate your misgivings.

When you do have the rational to discuss them, the invitations are still open. I'd like to see you sanely discuss issues without scooting off and seeing those threads dying prematurely or your resorting to wild remarks simply because you can't hold your views to spirited discussions.
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler by stimulus(m): 11:15am On Feb 16, 2008
@therationa,

therationa:

Apparently, it is God who is responsible for selecting the rulers of countries be they democratic or otherwise, dictators, tyrants or benign rulers. If this is the case, and given God's omniscience, you would expect God's selection procedure would ensure only the righteous and just are made rulers of their countries. However, this is not what really happens.

And why is it so that it is not what happens?

therationa:

From time immemorial, we have seen rulers pillage and destroy their countries, to the detriment of their own citizens; think of most of Africa. Nigeria is a case in point. One of the most religious nations on earth, with the level of privations not untypical of the 15 century. What is happening with God's ministration?

Did that question arise as a genuine effort to understand "God's ministration" or merely a typical quip to be derisive?

therationa:

In the light of the above, should an oppressed people seek to overthrow a corrupt and unjust ruler?

Interesting question. What would be your own recommendations, theration? grin

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