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Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by clemz88(m): 8:24am On May 10, 2015 |
ooman:dear God please dash this mumu sense |
Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by clemz88(m): 8:30am On May 10, 2015 |
Op this your question also bothers me a lot . because atimes when some thing tells me some I don't know if its just my mind or the holy spirit because I know that I have derailed from doing what God expects of me, so when something pricks my mind ill say this can't be Holy spirit cos my mind is very dirty now . Infact my own worst pass. |
Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by Orunto: 1:16pm On May 10, 2015 |
God breathed Conscience to Adam to know right and wrong. Adam followed wrong and failed. The Son of man came to show us the difference between right and wrong and how to become the Son of God that He might send us the Holy Spirit that will make us righteous forever. |
Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:16pm On May 11, 2015 |
The Holy Spirit and our conscience are different. God speaks to us through the two. In the olden days when the Holy Spirit has not been given, God dealt with men through their conscience. The conscience tells you the right thing to do as is required by nature. It is the policeman that pricks one whenever one does something wrongly. It is inside both Christians and non-christians. The Holy Spirit is a personality. He is not a force or thing. He is alive. Only Christians have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, alongside their conscience. The two are there to make a Christian realise his mistakes instantly and with the strength of the Holy Spirit amend his ways. The Holy Spirit is there to prick one's heart when one sins, even when one has silenced one's conscience. When the Holy Spirit speaks, He speals in line with the Scriptures, but this depends on how one studies the Scriptures. The more one studies, the more He uses them to speak to one. Therefore, one needs to give time to study God's word. The more one studies God's word, the nearer one draws to the Holy Spirit, and the clearer one hears His voice. It is when one is nearer to someone that one can hear him clearly, even when the speaker whispers. One can deaden or overshadow one's conscience but the voice of the Holy Spirit keeps speaking in its calm nature to the person. To differentiate between the two will be somehow difficult to one who does have time to study God's word. |
Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by oaroloye(m): 2:20pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
You waste your time chasing after what "some anonymous Pastor said." Does he really exist? If you had THE HOLY GHOST, you would keep The Commandments of Lord Yahshua, and teach HIS Teachings. . JOHN 14:21-27. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and the Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's Which sent me. 25. "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But The Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom The Father will send in my Name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my Peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." You do not do that, so you havr no connection to GOD whatsoever- no matter what PASTOR you PAID to tell you otherwise. |
Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by oaroloye(m): 4:57pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
SHALOM! Barnabaseloka: . JOHN 14:21-27. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and the Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's Which sent me. 25. "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But The Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom The Father will send in my Name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my Peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE HOLY GHOST TO BE INSIDE NON-CHRISTIANS. . ISAIAH 55:6-11. 6. Seek ye The LORD while He may be found, call ye upon Him while he is near: 7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way, and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts: and let him return unto The LORD, and He will have Mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. 8. "For My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My Ways," saith The LORD. 9. "For as the Heavens are higher than the Earth, so are My Ways higher than your ways, and My Thoughts than your thoughts. 10. "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from Heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the Earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11. "So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but It shall accomplish that which I please, and It shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent It." [color =silver].[/color] AMOS 3:3. 3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" GOD OPERATES ON SEVEN HIGHER LEVELS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING THAN NON-CHRISTIANS. How then, can THE HOLY GHOST POSSIBLY be INSIDE or SPEAK TO a NON-CHRISTIAN? The GAP between them is TOO GREAT! The Holy Spirit is a personality. He is not a force or thing. He is alive. Only Christians have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, alongside their conscience. THIS TOTALLY CONTRADICTS WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE. Barnabaseloka: The Holy Ghost is not an "IT," The Holy Ghost is a "HE." GENDER has significance in the Spiritual Realm. The two are there to make a Christian realise his mistakes instantly and with the strength of the Holy Spirit amend his ways. THAT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. Where was "THE STRENGTH OF THE HOLY GHOST" when PETER killed ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA? How was neither the CONSCIENCE of the 120 and more HOLY GHOST BAPTIZED EARLY CHURCH, nor The Holy Ghost able to TELL any of them that what they were doing, violating: . MATTHEW 6:1-4. "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no Reward of your Father Which is in Heaven. 2. "Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the Hypocrites do in the Synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, 'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.' 3. "But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4. "That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father Which Seeth in Secret Himself shall Reward thee openly." . JOHN 12:44-50. 44. Jesus cried and said, "He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on Him that sent me. 45. "And he that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46. "I am come a Light into the World, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in Darkness. 47. "And if any man hear my Words, and believe not, I Judge him not: for I came not to Judge the World, but to Save the World. 48. "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my Words, hath One that judgeth him: the Word that I have spoken, the same shall Judge him in The Last Day. 49. "For I have not spoken of myself; but The Father which sent me, He gave me a Commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50. "And I know that His Commandment is Life Everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as The Father said unto me, so I speak." The Holy Spirit is there to prick one's heart when one sins, even when one has silenced one's conscience. When the Holy Spirit speaks, He speals in line with the Scriptures, but this depends on how one studies the Scriptures. The more one studies, the more He uses them to speak to one. DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF THIS AT ALL- OR ARE YOU JUST MAKING UP THEORIES TO MISLEAD PEOPLE, NOT CARING IF YOU ARE SINKING PEOPLE INTO ERROR? If THE HOLY GHOST were "pricking YOUR conscience," or "speaking to YOU," would HE not TELL you to SPEAK THE WORDS OF GOD BY YAHSHUA, and NOT YOUR OWN Words? . JOHN 3:34-36. 34. "For he whom God hath sent speaketh The Words of God: for God giveth not The Spirit by measure (unto him). 35. "The Father loveth The Son, and hath given all things into his Hand. 36. "He that believeth on The Son hath Everlasting Life: and he that believeth not The Son shall not see Life; but The Wrath of God abideth on him." SO YOUR THEORY DOES NOT EVEN WORK FOR YOU! . JOHN 16:12-15. 12. "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13. "Howbeit when He, The Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all Truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come. 14. "He shall glorify me: for He shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15. "All things that The Father hath are mine: therefore said I, ’THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE, AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.' " Therefore, one needs to give time to study God's word. The more one studies God's word, the nearer one draws to the Holy Spirit, and the clearer one hears His voice. IF STUDYING THE WORD IS NECESSARY TO HEAR THE HOLY GHOST, HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT HE IS INSIDE NON-CHRISTIANS? . AMOS 3:3. 3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" . MATTHEW 9:16-17. 16. "No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. 17. "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved." IF THE SPIRIT OF GOD WERE INSIDE A SINNER, THEY WOULD EXPLODE! That was the entire POINT of THE GOSPEL: to MAKE people ABLE to receive The Holy Ghost- AND LIVE! It is when one is nearer to someone that one can hear him clearly, even when the speaker whispers. One can deaden or overshadow one's conscience but the voice of the Holy Spirit keeps speaking in its calm nature to the person. . ISAIAH 59:1-4. BEHOLD, The LORD's Hand is not shortened, that It cannot Save; neither His ear heavy, that It cannot Hear: 2. But your Iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your Sins have hid His Face from you, that he will not Hear. 3. For your hands are defiled with Blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken Lies, your tongue hath muttered Perverseness. 4. None calleth for Justice, nor any pleadeth for Truth: they trust in Vanity, and speak Lies; they conceive Mischief, and bring forth Iniquity. EVEN IF GOD WERE SPEAKING RIGHT NEXT TO A SINNER, THEY WOULD NOT HEAR ANYTHING, BECAUSE THEIR SINS (IGNORANT VIOLATIONS OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD,) AND INIQUITIES (DELIBERATE VIOLATIONS OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD,) FORM A SHIELD OF CONDENSED SPIRITUAL ENERGY OVER THEIR SOUL BODY, THROUGH WHICH NO SPIRITUAL POWER CAN PENETRATE WHILE THEY ARE CONSCIOUS AND ALIVE. To differentiate between the two will be somehow difficult to one who does have time to study God's word. Do you even bother to PROOF-READ the RUBBISH you write? Have you not in fact written the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you MEANT to say? OR, do you REALLY BELIEVE that if you had time to study GOD'S WORD, you would be UNABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE between THE VOICE OF GOD, and YOUR OWN CONSCIENCE? That is one of the STUPIDEST things I have EVER heard! oaroloye: THEREFORE, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND WOULD BE WELL-ADVISED TO STOP BLASPHEMING, IMMEDIATELY! The nation of Israel THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD DIE when GOD SPOKE TO THEM. You are IGNORANT to think that GOD TALKS TO SINNERS, and they REMAIN SINNERS, or that GOD NEEDS US to "STUDY HIS WORD" before HIS SPIRIT can SPEAK to us! If that were so, HOW DID SCRIPTURE GET INSPIRED in the FIRST place? CLEARLY, you just READ A LOT OF BIBLE, then PICK SOMETHING from what you read, and DELUDE YOURSELF that GOD is Speaking to YOU! You feel so important- thinking that THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH is Speaking to YOU! THAT is SELF-EXALTATION. . LUKE 14:7-11. 7. And he put forth a Parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8. "When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9. "And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, 'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;' and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10. "But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, 'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:' then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11. "For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." YOU PROMOTED YOURSELF INTO THE SAME CLASS WITH THE PROPHETS. . ISAIAH 64:4. 4. For since The Beginning of the World (men) have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside Thee, (what) He hath prepared for him that waiteth for Him. THERE IS NO RECEIVING THE HOLY GHOST FIRST- THEN TRYING TO AGREE WITH GOD LATER! |
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