Mr_Anony:
Ok good let us proceed. I will assume that for this thread mazaje is interested in truth more than unnecessary empty arguments.

1. My answer: Yes. However, the it is more like a soul having a body than the other way round. For the intents and purposes of this thread, I will define the soul as the non-physical essence of a man i.e. the real person is the soul while the body would be his 'container'. (note: this is a rather simplified description of what the soul is but it will do for now)

Stalwert: Oh atheist are being battered in this thread: current scores as they stand;
Coalition of the willing (christians) 9. The Atheists 3.

Will the atheist do a last minute rally and launch a counter attack?

Will the christians step on the banana peel and fall off the route of victory?

Will the atheists sack Mazaje who has so far shown lack luster performance and undeniable fear in responding to simple questions?

Will the atheists aid Mazaje instead of mopping?

Will the world end in 2012?

Will Obama avoid the fiscal cliff and dance gangnam style one last time?

Will davidylan play a more direct role rather than fighting from the margins?

Please stay tuned for an explosive encounter between COW and The Atheists!

hisblud: thanks for the strawman link. Strawman but on a serious note, mazaje did not find his style repulsive. Lets let em finish discussing abi, we were not directly asked but can contribute without been offensive ko . There are questions to me are irrelevant thus i ignore when i think so, aint that my right

mazaje:

I believe you know what I am talking about. . .Do you believe in the soul?. . .Is the mind the soul?. . .Can we reason for example without our brains?. . .

Mr_Anony:
Ok bro, I'll expect it. As for advocate666, ignore him. Engaging him is usually a waste of time, he hardly ever makes logical sense but he doesn't know it and when you respond to him, it makes him think that what he has said was worth responding to in the first place.

mazaje: I got some of these questions from another board but will like you to answer them.

1. Do you believe that you have a soul that survives death?
2. If you answered yes to #1, where is this soul currently located in the human body? (Be specific)
3. How is this soul affixed to the body while you are alive?
4. By what means does it become disconnected from the body at the point of death?
5. Do animals, insects and unicellular organisims have souls? If no, why not?
6. By what means do we obtain this soul? Why is it not described in any scholarly work regarding the conception of human beings?
7. Where is our soul before we are conceived?Is it created out of "nothing"? What is it created out of? How is the soul distinct from the body?
8. Is the soul different from consciousness?
9. Is there a difference between the soul and the intelligence/character of the human?

For example: if a person sustains severe brain damage that dramatically alters their character or intellect(it happens a lot) completely, does that mean:

a) The soul sustained equal damage to the brain and is changed in exactly the same way?
b) The soul was not damaged, but parts of it are thereafter "locked off" due to the physical damage?

This ones will do for now.

Billyonaire: 3. How is this soul affixed to the body while you are alive?

Soul is affixed via the silver cord.

mazaje: I got some of these questions from another board but will like you to answer them.

1. Do you believe that you have a soul that survives death?
2. If you answered yes to #1, where is this soul currently located in the human body? (Be specific)
3. How is this soul affixed to the body while you are alive?
4. By what means does it become disconnected from the body at the point of death?

Yes, death is the name given to a condition when soul vacates physical body. Soul knows no death.

5. Do animals, insects and unicellular organisims have souls? If no, why not?


All living things are alife by virtue of souls, yes, the mentioned are souls in physical form.


6. By what means do we obtain this soul? Why is it not described in any scholarly work regarding the conception of human beings?

We do not obtain souls, soul seeks physical embodiments to go through physical existence. We do not exist without soul.



7. Where is our soul before we are conceived?Is it created out of "nothing"? What is it created out of? How is the soul distinct from the body?

Soul place is ether, vast limitless ocean of love energy. Soul is energy and can not be created nor destroyed but can be converted to different forms of manifestations. Body is in physical form, soul is energy in ethereal form.




8. Is the soul different from consciousness? Soul births consciousness, soul is what gives consciousness to all that its in.



9. Is there a difference between the soul and the intelligence/character of the human?


The intelligence of man has to do with his knowledge which are channeled through the brain cells to the virtual server called the mind. Brain is workshop for the mind, mind is storage of all knowledges and mind is brain of soul.




For example: if a person sustains severe brain damage that dramatically alters their character or intellect(it happens a lot) completely, does that mean:

a) The soul sustained equal damage to the brain and is changed in exactly the same way?
No, soul is not affected by physical impacts.

- will continue soon.


b) The soul was not damaged, but parts of it are thereafter "locked off" due to the physical damage?

Soul is never affected, but if soul is unable to function in a destroyed body, it leaves temporary and wait for new birth for it to "possess" and continue where it stopped on the previous body, in a process called reincarnation.


This ones will do for now.

musKeeto: Remember my short break some weeks bk? I was hauling my soul to Naija. Been stuck in my villa for abt a wk nw...

I'll pm u as soon as possible. Need some non-religious advice, regarding info tech. Your Japanese Nippon prediction was right though. Never heard from them. Or maybe, it was just me thinking of running back to Naija.

Mr_Anony:
Ok good let us proceed. I will assume that for this thread mazaje is interested in truth more than unnecessary empty arguments.

1. My answer: Yes. However, the it is more like a soul having a body than the other way round. For the intents and purposes of this thread, I will define the soul as the non-physical essence of a man i.e. the real person is the soul while the body would be his 'container'. (note: this is a rather simplified description of what the soul is but it will do for now)

1. My question: Do you believe that there is more to you than your physical body or is there a non-physical aspect of you? i.e is there an aspect of you that cannot be comprehensively defined by space, time and mass?

greatgenius: yes i believe in the soul.. And no the mind is not the soul..you are a tripartite bieng. mind/body/soul/...your soul is that which houses or contains your body. it is in, through and around your body. it is every where.. the mind is in each cell of your body and not your brains alone..

can we reason for example without our brains? well we dont reason with our brains we do with the mind..the brain is more of a transformer or receiver...

mazaje:

I made a simple statement and the statement is that all my thoughts are reasoning are a function of the brain, without my brain I can not think or reason. Who said I am created by my brain? I simply said my thoughts and reasoning all are controlled by my brain. . .Again I ask are my thoughts my soul?. . .Is my non physical parts that is my thoughts and reasoning my my soul? Are you saying that my thoughts are soul?. . .Is just want a simple yes or a simple no. . .



I am responsible for my thoughts, but my thoughts are just chemical reactions in my brain and it has been empirically shown that thoughts are a mixture of chemical reactions in the brain, do you dispute that fact that thoughts are chemical reactions in the brain?. . .




Do you dispute the fact that thoughts are chemical reactions in the brain?. . .





What do you mean by that there is a non physical me?. . .What is the non physical me. . .There is no non physical me, again are my thoughts my soul?. . .My thoughts are chemical reactions that happen in the brain. . . .The chemical reactions within the brain are complex too, and very numerous. They also act within a complex and organized structure.



If all I am is a random? What are you saying? Again the chemical reactions within the brain are complex too, and very numerous. They also act within a complex and organised structure. Are my thoughts me are my thoughts my soul? Is that what you are saying? Whats the difference between my thoughts and my soul?. . .I am talking about my thoughts and you seem to equate my thoughts to "me". You are just begging the question. . .My thoughts are chemical reactions in my brain. . . Its not a chemical reaction that has an equation per say because it is not all chemical reactions that can be shown as an equation and you know that. . .My brain is composed of about 100 billion nerve cells (neurons) interconnected by trillions of connections, called synapses. On average, each connection transmits about one signal per second. Some specialized connections send up to 1,000 signals per second. which produces thought.
When I read the words mazaje, for example, the photons associated with the patterns of the letters hit my retina, and their energy triggers an electrical signal in the light-detecting cells there. That electrical signal propagates like a wave along the long threads called axons that are part of the connections between neurons. When the signal reaches the end of an axon, it causes the release of chemical neurotransmitters into the synapse, a chemical junction between the axon tip and target neurons. A target neuron responds with its own electrical signal, which, in turn, spreads to other neurons. Within a few hundred milliseconds, the signal has spread to billions of neurons in several dozen interconnected areas of my brain and I have perceived the words mazaje. That's a summary of how it functions, but its more complicated than that. The fact that I am then able to convert the perception of these shapes into symbols, language, and meaning is a whole other story and a good indication of the complexity of neuroscience.



Chemical reactions result in non physical reactions as we have in the brain. . .The chemical reactions in the brain result in thoughts and reasoning. . .Thoughts are a function of neural circuitry in particular areas on the brain. Thoughts are not physical as such can not be measured, so I really do not know what you are talking about. . . .




What exactly do you mean by me?. . .Are my thoughts me?. . .Are my thoughts my soul?. . .Whats the difference between my thoughts and my soul. . .Pls answer. . .

Mr_Anony:
Wow, it seems we are going to be spending a lot of time on question 2.

You said that there is no non-physical aspect of you. I am still waiting for you to tell me exactly how physical chemical reactions whose spatial properties can be measured happen to result in thoughts with no physical properties.

You cannot have it both ways; it is either your thoughts can be physically measured or your thoughts cannot be physically measured in which case they won't be an aspect of you since no aspect of you is non-physical.

Please answer clearly so that we can move on to your next question

hisblud: @anony check your mail i have sent it.

obadiah777: HAVE YOU FINISHED PROSTRATING IN FRONT OF THAT CHRISTMAS TREE YOU BOUGHT FOR XMAS ?

truthislight:

lol. Chrismas tree? Me? Lol.

"I jump am pass", Chrismas ke?

guy where went you?

I learnt you travelled that is why you were missing for sometimes in here?

Reyginus: The question he asked is completely different from your response. We know the brain is behind the moulding of thoughts and determines how everything is controlled. What he wants to know is the spatial measurement of this thoughts. You didn't answer that.

Reyginus: Lolol. This is what happens when you don't understand the implication of what you are typing. Do you really?

Mr_Anony:
Wow, it seems we are going to be spending a lot of time on question 2.

You said that there is no non-physical aspect of you. I am still waiting for you to tell me exactly how physical chemical reactions whose spatial properties can be measured happen to result in thoughts with no physical properties. ("it is complex" is not an answer in the same way I am sure that you won't be satisfied if I merely said "the soul is complex" )

You cannot have it both ways; it is either your thoughts can be physically measured or your thoughts cannot be physically measured in which case they won't be an aspect of you since no aspect of you is non-physical.

Please answer clearly so that we can move on to your next question

greatgenius: yes i believe in the soul.. And no the mind is not the soul..you are a tripartite bieng. mind/body/soul/...your soul is that which houses or contains your body. it is in, through and around your body. it is every where.. the mind is in each cell of your body and not your brains alone..

can we reason for example without our brains? well we dont reason with our brains we do with the mind..the brain is more of a transformer or receiver...

greatgenius: wrong the mind is not the brain. the mind exists in every cell of your body.

mazaje:

I said acknowledged that my thoughts are non physical but without my brain I can not have them since they are chemical reaction in the brain, that is a scientific fact, do you dispute that fact?. . .My thoughts are non physical and as such can not be measured. . .

Mr_Anony:
Just to get something clear before we move on to the next question:

You are accepting that there is an aspect of you that is non-physical however it is controlled by chemical reactions in a physical brain.

Is the above a fair representation of what you are saying?

Mr_Anony:

Why then was it so hard for you to simply agree when I said this:



So have you now agreed that there is an aspect of you that is non-physical? Can we move on to question 3 now?

Resolved Question: Can there be any chemical reactions that are not visible?
Colour change, light being released etc, those are all visible but are there any non-visible changes that can make it a chemical reaction?

Asked by Staaaar 3 years ago Report Abuse

Best Answer
A Simple Neutralization reaction:
A --> B
NaOH + HCl --> Nacl + H2O

Since all the elements involved in the reaction are colourless, u cannot say if the reaction has taken place unless you use any indicator like phenolphthalein (pink instrong base like NaOH and colorless otherwise)
Answer by The Eskimo 3 years ago Report Abuse

hisblud: From yahoo answers:

If i can chip in here, Mazaje what i think (my opinion tho ) is that Mr Anony is asking you something as the above from a yahoo answers;

where

A = Chemical Reaction
B = Thoughts

thus

A --> B

So what he is saying since you accept that our thoughts is a function of chemical reactions, you should put it as the above simple neutralization reaction that if we take it to either Sweden and Ajegunle, the result will be the same. In other words what substances make up the chemical reaction.

Further more, making it more complicated is that you have accepted that thoughts are non-physical objects, so how can a physical quantities combine (A) to produce (B) a non physical object.

truthislight:

na wao!

When you are ask "what is in your mind"? Is that a question to other part of your body?
Hmmm!

The mind is the brain Abeg

Billyonaire: The Mind is a virtual reporsitory where brain archives information. Mind is to where brain shares info with soul. Mind is virtual repository, the brain sends info to virtual server (mind) for permanent storage. There are interchange of info btween brain and mind on a molecular level via dedicated nerves in the brain. Its a new field of research in medical sciences dedicated to this and OBE. When we die the mind keeps info on soul and soul comes to new body armed with info of previous experiences of life and that individual can easily pick up on experiences of past life. A study of reincarnation offers insight into mind as memory or HDD of soul.

Logicboy03:



a) Let's say that I slapped your wife for abusing me. That then creates tension when we both meet the next day. Is that tension physical?

b) There is tangibility to our thoughts . Our thoughts are memory based. Our thoughts are based on what we have seen and our brains ability to recollect and visualize. So, when you are thinking of something, you are actually doing something physical; recollecting a visual memory stored in your brain and analyzing it. It is a very physical process to make a thought

frosbel:

hilarious comedy !

Logicboy03:



a) Let's say that I slapped your wife for abusing me. That then creates tension when we both meet the next day. Is that tension physical?

b) There is tangibility to our thoughts . Our thoughts are memory based. Our thoughts are based on what we have seen and our brains ability to recollect and visualize. So, when you are thinking of something, you are actually doing something physical; recollecting a visual memory stored in your brain and analyzing it. It is a very physical process to make a thought