Here on earth, we live in a 3D world. Look at a box. It's got 6 sides. But you can only ever see at most 3 sides of it standing in one position. That's because we live in a 3D world.

The spirit world, to which we shall all return when we pass, is a 4D world. There, you are able to see a minimum four sides of a box.

Some parts of the spirit world are even 5 or 6D. I understand the limit is a 10 dimensional realm.

Here, Carl Sagan describes the 4 dimensional world.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WjV6MmCyM


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Im not too convinced with the 4th dimension being the the spirit world. This conclusion looks too loose and convenient.

There could be a 4th dimension that we as humans can not perceive. However, it doesnt follow that the dimension would be spiritual.

It could be like how dogs are colour blind. Does that make colour a spiritual dimension to dogs?

Physical body has limited organs which means limited senses. Limited senses means limited capabilities. As soul, we do not need eyes to see, we do not need ears to hear and we do not need skin to feel and beyond this, there other capabilites in soul that many people will not experience till death except those who have OBE. 3rd Dimension is our limit as physical beings but as soul and spirit, its a world of multiple dimensions. A world you can hear thoughts of others. Its extra ordinary. Experience yourself as soul and you will become aware of the purpose of life, without this experience, life has no meaning!

We live in a 4D world, cos you add time. So nothing spiritual here

Logicboy03: There could be a 4th dimension that we as humans can not perceive. However, it doesnt follow that the dimension would be spiritual.

It could be like how dogs are colour blind. Does that make colour a spiritual dimension to dogs?

exactly

Sorry guys. I posted the wrong Carl Sagan video earlier. Now corrected, detailing more fully the concept.


Here, Carl Sagan describes the 4 dimensional world.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WjV6MmCyM

Logicboy03: There could be a 4th dimension that we as humans can not perceive. However, it doesnt follow that the dimension would be spiritual.

It could be like how dogs are colour blind. Does that make colour a spiritual dimension to dogs?

I don't really get your dog analogy.

The term 'spirit world' essentially means 'that world (or aspect of the universe) which cannot ordinarily be perceived in our 3D reality'.

Many accounts by near-death experiencers and out of body experiencers describe their experience as being in what scientists acknowledge to be a 4 dimensional environment, which qualifies therefore as the 'spirit world'. What is a spirit? A spirit is a being that we cannot ordinarily perceive in our 3D world.

If you were to enter a 4D world, that 'spirit' or blurry ghost (from your 3D perspective) would appear as a full, solid being or entity. Being 4D (or higher), that world would appear to you even more solid, and the experience of it more 'real' than this one.

Typically, in NDE accounts, the experiencer says there are ''no human words available to describe'' the nature of the environment they found themselves in. But that the experience felt 'more real' than our current reality.

When all we know is a 3 dimensional world - arrow up, arrow down, arrow left, arrow right - how do we explain a world in which visible elements include directions at right angles to each of those arrows? (4D).... It would be impossible to explain it from our current perspective. There would literally be no words to explain it. But it would feel more 'real' than this world. Even trying to imagine it can give one a headache. But it's there, LIVE.

Isn't it exciting to know that one day each of us will experience that level of existence? I find the prospect extremely exciting.

Right now, as human earthlings, we are virtually blind. Unable to perceive almost 98% of our environment (including our immediate surroundings) in a universe which some propose to be at least 10 dimensional. That 98% which appears to us as 'empty space' is in fact filled with abundant life and energy, myriad life forms, civilizations, ages, and epochs, to which we're currently blinded. Imagine observing the world in a 10 dimensional reality. Everything currently hidden from you, you will see instantly without effort. Plus more.

It would be a totally different level of existence.

ROSSIKE:
Many accounts by near-death experiencers and out of body experiencers describe their experience as being in what scientists acknowledge to be a 4 dimensional environment, which qualifies therefore as the 'spirit world'. What is a spirit? A spirit is a being that we cannot ordinarily perceive in our 3D world.


If you were to enter a 4D world, that 'spirit' or blurry ghost (from your 3D perspective) would appear as a full, solid being or entity. Being 4D (or higher), that world would appear to you even more solid, and the experience of it more 'real' than this one.

Typically, in NDE accounts, the experiencer says there are ''no human words available to describe'' the nature of the environment they found themselves in. But that the experience felt 'more real' than our current reality.

A three dimensional being like man can only see in 2D at any point in time. The only way we know a sphere isnt a circle is because of lighting, shades and other visual cues. A 3D object could also walk around the 2D object, stitching several mental 2D pictures into a 3D one.

Similarly, a 4th dimensional being can only see in 3D. So all those who have NDE should have told us of being able to see other people in 3D while in the spirit, that is see the front back and sides all at the same time. No such account exists, in fact they see just like normal humans see - 2D with perspective. This means spatial dimensions can not really be linked to spiritual stuff.

This is why calling the fourth dimension spiritual would be a mistake, just like calling time the fourth dimension. Time is measured in seconds, space in meters, spiritual who knows what is also a different quantity. So it is probably an error to equate all these loosely. Besides, na who wan watch 10 dimensional object for eternity

birdman:

A three dimensional being like man can only see in 2D at any point in time. The only way we know a sphere isnt a circle is because of lighting, shades and other visual cues. A 3D object could also walk around the 2D object, stitching several mental 2D pictures into a 3D one.

Similarly, a 4th dimensional being can only see in 3D. So all those who have NDE should have told us of being able to see other people in 3D while in the spirit, that is see the front back and sides all at the same time. No such account exists, in fact they see just like normal humans see - 2D with perspective. This means spatial dimensions can not really be linked to spiritual stuff.

You're wrong. In actual fact, many NDE experiencers HAVE reported observing 'all sides' of objects including buildings.

In a well documented NDE account by Mellen-Thomas Benedict, he stated:

''I woke up about 4:30 am and I knew that this was it. I was going to die. I called a few friends and said good-bye. I woke up Anne and made her promise that my dead body would remain undisturbed for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen when you die. I went back to sleep. The next thing I remember, I was fully aware and standing up. Yet my body was lying in the bed. I seemed to be surrounded by darkness, yet I could see every room in the house, and the roof, and even under the house.''

http://www.wanttoknow.info/neardeathexperience

Besides, na who wan watch 10 dimensional object for eternity

We're not talking about ''watching a 10 dimensional object''. We're talking of observing a 10 dimensional universe. Massive difference.

We live in a 4D world oh!! Time is th fourth dimension!!

ROSSIKE:

You're wrong. In actual fact, many NDE experiencers HAVE reported observing 'all sides' of objects including buildings.

In a well documented NDE account by Mellen-Thomas Benedict, he stated:

''I woke up about 4:30 am and I knew that this was it. I was going to die. I called a few friends and said good-bye. I woke up Anne and made her promise that my dead body would remain undisturbed for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen when you die. I went back to sleep. The next thing I remember, I was fully aware and standing up. Yet my body was lying in the bed. I seemed to be surrounded by darkness, yet I could see every room in the house, and the roof, and even under the house.''

http://www.wanttoknow.info/neardeathexperience

Interesting. Looks like the expected 4d experience, Thanks for sharing the link


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Eh, same thing. I suspect the human mind would get bored with a 10 dimensional universe eventually.

@ op, how many sides of a sphere can you see at a time?

YEP, HE WAS RIGHT

As the nephew of a nuclear physicist, I can authoritatively tell you that the fourth dimension is time.

As weird and strange as it sounds, I have experienced the 4D world at a quite younger age. It was the scariest experience of my life till date. At that point I was scared I may not be able to get back to my body. Only told my elder sis then, and am sure most people here could guess what her response was.

Na wah ooooo; very soon dem go say some human being go become robocorp wey dem go dey use remote control for

birdman:

A three dimensional being like man can only see in 2D at any point in time. The only way we know a sphere isnt a circle is because of lighting, shades and other visual cues. A 3D object could also walk around the 2D object, stitching several mental 2D pictures into a 3D one.

Similarly, a 4th dimensional being can only see in 3D. So all those who have NDE should have told us of being able to see other people in 3D while in the spirit, that is see the front back and sides all at the same time. No such account exists, in fact they see just like normal humans see - 2D with perspective. This means spatial dimensions can not really be linked to spiritual stuff.

This is why calling the fourth dimension spiritual would be a mistake, just like calling time the fourth dimension. Time is measured in seconds, space in meters, spiritual who knows what is also a different quantity. So it is probably an error to equate all these loosely. Besides, na who wan watch 10 dimensional object for eternity

I guess u've thought about dis topic so long like its all ur business. Though I beleive the Op but Mehnn! Ur logic is disarming. Subscribing.....

advocate666: @ op, how many sides of a sphere can you see at a time?

u see 3 dimensions of the sphere at a time. Dat is what we ar dicussing, will need a chalk board 2 explain it to u.

i tot i was Late!!

Somebody go begin wake up one day,type rubbish*
Begin scribble absolute rubbbish, add some yeye pictorial diagram join with no biblical support,*post it on the net and some some peeps go begin accept such at face value-mtcheeeeew

SimonAndal: As the nephew of a nuclear physicist, I can authoritatively tell you that the fourth dimension is time.

the 3 dimensions are spaces measured in meters. Time is measured in seconds, how does dat correlate

The OP is perfectly right. I am one such person with OBE experiences, I can tell you from my personal experiences that the physical life as we know it is highly limited in nature. Imagine being at a location by just the thought of it. Imagine 'hearing' thoughts of people aloud, thoughts are audible during the OBE sessions. It difficult to explain, but there you are and seeing across the rooms, the wall dont even block your vision of the entire rooms. You move across walls. You see yourself in the deepest oceans and not wet or stopped by nothing except fear which sends you back to your physical body panting. I have seen and experience things my people. This life, this physical life, is an illusion. Life on the other side is the real life.

You guys should wait for the 'Jesus Crew'to arrive and tell you how this is Ungodly and unbiblical. Accept Christ or forever perish in hell. If they haven't arrived already whilst i was typing

m-ployer:
u see 3 dimensions of the sphere at a time. Dat is what we ar dicussing, will need a chalk board 2 explain it to u.

Question was how many sides, not how many dimensions.

Are u ppl talking about 2D,3D AutoCad but 4D never dey now mstcheeeeeew.

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I disturb myself less.

Nonsense

pekelepekele: Life is whatever you say or think it is .

Now, this is a lie from the pit of the spirit dimension. Do you mind explaining to me sir?

eduson77: [size=30pt]mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeewww[/size]

Why na?