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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by brightk(m): 10:46pm On Jan 09, 2013
funky medina: Technology has come into web design in such a way that the basic sites that meets the needs of most avaerage people/small to midium businesses can be done for less than 49k because its no longer difficult to create a site. If I choose to do it for 30k how can you ban me? Its called competition, market how ur different and charge what u want.



anyway I nor blame u sha.....SO THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED BY ALL DICKS AND JOYSTICKS...this is y we si all manner of sites on the internet... am not disputing d fact that a 70k site is better off than a 10k or vice versa. but be professional in what u are doing .. simple as ABCD..

this is y we cant compete with the western world
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Slyr0x: 10:19am On Jan 10, 2013
kambo: All i'm saying charge well like a professional not like a beggar.

Exactly my point!

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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by calibus(m): 2:26pm On Jan 10, 2013
Guyz!
We can't stop this issue with or without association/union, as for me am not in support of the union thing...
As a webdeveloper or A webdesigner what we all need is to have a stand. If you think 20k is too small for you walk away frm the job.
If u really want to make big money and at the same time add value to ursef try design a theme wordpress or joomla and sell on themeforest etc der u can sell one theme to million people.
If you really think you are webdeveloper/webdesigner enough.
Think about it!

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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by akintayo1(m): 5:45pm On Jan 13, 2013
*solid*:


Well said, so how much wld you charge a client for,
1. Yearly hosting and domain name?
2. How much wld you charge for design (in ur own case copy and paste) of each page?
3. How much wld you charge if you have to develop content for each page?
4. How much wld you charge if u need extra widgets and plugins?
5. How much wld you charge if they have no logo?
6. How much wld you spend on internet connectivity?
7. How much wld you charge for logistics?

Besides, a person who can not do more than wordpress and joomla is only an administrator and not a website designer or web developer. Cos in the real sense, you have not designed anything, only cut and paste.
Technology is advancing every seconds of the day,no one wants to get his hands dirty on codes any more.every one looking for short cut.If i can get copy and paste method to design a website like facebook or nairaland and kick it off fast to start making me money,why would i be fighting it out in trying to code every bit of it from scratch? Great thanks to the CMS (wordpress,joomla,blogger e.t.c)communities all over,clients would have empty their bank account just to get a 2 page websites or blog if only web developer or designer as you called like "U" still prefer the traditional ways.
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 3:18pm On Jan 14, 2013
akintayo1: Technology is advancing every seconds of the day,no one wants to get his hands dirty on codes any more.every one looking for short cut.If i can get copy and paste method to design a website like facebook or nairaland and kick it off fast to start making me money,why would i be fighting it out in trying to code every bit of it from scratch? Great thanks to the CMS (wordpress,joomla,blogger e.t.c)communities all over,clients would have empty their bank account just to get a 2 page websites or blog if only web developer or designer as you called like "U" still prefer the traditional ways.

Well, lets see how you will advance from a copy and paste u ar doing to become a webdeveloper.
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by kambo(m): 5:35pm On Jan 14, 2013
hello funky and co ur not getting my point . I m not advocating unionism it will stiffle innovation i'm advocating long sitedness . If u charge 10k for a website the market will force this expectation on most developers and most would want a site like nairaland (sth as complex as this ) for at most 50k no thanks to you developers that charged cheap. But if you churn out 100 jobs a month (i doubt!) if you like you can charge 10k because the total sum is large. Its the same as if one person paid you 1m/month. This is the approach blackberry microsoft uac dangote nokia use they sell cheap but rake in Billions. If ur a developer not working on such scale ur price can damn you perpetually. So that 5years from now ur still grovelling because u live on pittance. To illustrate, Mcdonalds was run by 2 brothers they charged "10k" , metaphorically,per burger and sold to their community dooming themselves to perennial smalltime . Enter uber marketter Ray , he knew the price was set and didnt try to change it . What he did was Sell to many at that small price thereby raking in Billions. Most of this 10k guys cant give clients job quotes N500k because theyve been thinking in 10 - 30k range for too long. This is what i'm attacking its hurting you and killing the prestige of the field. Have you noticed that web design is regarded as a poverty "alleviation" field! Why isnt software engineering accounting law regarded as such! If you design a site you:: use a machine, use transportation, pay rent , pay electricity bills, use your health, strain your eyes and wrist, pay call cost , incur internet cost, and need to make a profit . Do your charges meet these cost? Moreover your market share is shrinking because the every secondary school kid and unemployed is jumping in too. Re educate the 10k client to know that a website is their international identity so they shold pay well for it-if they can tote a blackberry they can afford a few thousands. A union can fix this malady but i'm not advocating it. All i'm saying is be more professional dont slave on 50 websites a year to make 500k (baboon work) when you could earn the same at less effort. We are not cheap asian sweat shop labourers .

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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by funkymedina: 6:22pm On Jan 14, 2013
So this thread is still alive..sorry to go off topic but i am afraid to post . today was my first visit to technology section, I wanted to post an interesting article on embedded systems , as i clicked submit i got banned for about 2hrs by pyguru for no stated reason.

Maybe the pyguru is annoyed at my position here, this is the only thread I have had serious discussion of this nature .. Sorry oo , please dont ban me again , if you dont like discuss why are u in a forum , my position here is not to be taken soo serious like that , na wa oo..anyway I am signing off this topic finally .

Thanks!
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 6:29pm On Jan 14, 2013
^^ Better go and never return cos u are t f a d (<==) .

@Kambo: thats exactly my point too. I bidded for a job, quoted 350k and later got 200k for d job, not serverside development.
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by funkymedina: 6:50pm On Jan 14, 2013
[quote author=*solid*]^^ Better go and never return cos u are t f a d (<==) .

I must say i am suprised by ur reaction. what does t f a d even mean? If you dont want any kind of discuss or opposition to ur idea maybe a forum isnt the best place to express it. Very disappointing if this is the norm here at nairaland. Are u friends with the payguru character? Or maybe its my fault for thinking i am actually talking with certain kinds of people. Shame , I was actually enjoying the banter.
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 7:00pm On Jan 14, 2013
lipsrsealed

Do I have to teach smbdy to read in this direction <== or is d person a n e e d r a t e r?

Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by funkymedina: 8:19pm On Jan 14, 2013
[quote author=*solid*] lipsrsealed

Do I have to teach smbdy to read in this direction <== or is d person a n e e d r a t e r?

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Dont be rude, I am not daft or retarded. Sorry if Medina in my name gave u the impression i read right to left, I dont! Funky Medina is the title of an awesome 80s track, not related to Islam in anyway .
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by rimezone: 11:51am On Jan 15, 2013
databoy247:
I totally agree with you. But its gonna be difficult to implement.
Suggestion? Like i said in some post last two years, We need to set up a registered association, and compel all web developers to register with said association. This association or union is gonna serve as a regulatory body for web developers providing a fixed "minimum" charge for jobs. The general public is going to be aware of it. SO if you give your job to non-registered developer, na u sabi.

Its gonna promote professionalism and give web developers their long due respect in the society. Atleast street barbers do have a union how much more web developers.

My 2 cents.

What if someone takes over the association. Best thing is to educate the clients on the benefits of a professional
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by 53cur3m0d3(m): 12:48am On Jan 17, 2013
*solid*:
^^ Better go and never return cos u are t f a d (<==) .

@Kambo: thats exactly my point too. I bidded for a job, quoted 350k and later got 200k for d job, not serverside development.
Congrats man, more of it to com in Jesus name for us all especially those of us aiming higher.
I'd like to just run thru a short story on here, hope U guys can relate to it.
I was at my Cousin's place last year and while gisting, he told me of his neighbour whose kid attends a Montessorri where they pay #1.4m per year and I shrugged him off like "na lie joor". To my utter dismay, dis kid walked in and when I askd him, "how're U doin lil man?", his reply content and diction swept me off my feet. All I cud tel my Cousin was "This is Royalty".
I hope U all get my lil story
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by PallyG(m): 2:08am On Jan 17, 2013
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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 10:05am On Jan 17, 2013
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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by frisahost(m): 11:26am On Jan 19, 2013
I think organsing web design/develop association is a good idea,it wil help to reduces those non professions cus they are d one spoiling web dev job...secondly fixed price cant wrk cus u dnt expect me 2 charge d same amount wit others.
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 12:51pm On Jan 19, 2013
frisahost: I think organsing web design/develop association is a good idea,it wil help to reduces those non professions cus they are d one spoiling web dev job...secondly fixed price cant wrk cus u dnt expect me 2 charge d same amount wit others.

Hey man, nobody is advocating an association or fixed price. If u take a look at the original post, it did not suggest formin an association neither did it suggested a fixed price. Fixed price can never be feasible cos website specifications differs.

The intentions of the OP is that we web developers shld place a higher value on the work we love to do as against the trend of charging ridiculus amount that can bearly do the job which usually ends up being done shabily and below average.

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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by frisahost(m): 4:46pm On Jan 19, 2013
*solid*:


Hey man, nobody is advocating an association or fixed price. If u take a look at the original post, it did not suggest formin an association neither did it suggested a fixed price. Fixed price can never be feasible cos website specifications differs.

The intentions of the OP is that we web developers shld place a higher value on the work we love to do as against the trend of charging ridiculus amount that can bearly do the job which usually ends up being done shabily and below average.

yea i understand was just thinking as others said that forming association, think it would help to identified developers n not to give job to people outside the association cus those that charge 15k has spoil alot of job..cus i could remember when i was called to design a school website last 2 year,the owner of the school was pricing 10k imagine
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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Vikax(m): 10:12am On Jan 25, 2013
I have a question.
How do you get foreign contacts.

Lets form the organisation any way how do we do it.
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