It is said that the descendants of Noah all spoke a single language. As they increased in number and began to spread eastward, they found a fertile area called Shinar and settled there. They decided to build a city with a tower that "reached to the heavens." They wanted the tower to be a proud monument to themselves and a symbol that would keep them united as a powerful people.

However, god was not so pleased. He came down and looked at the city and tower and said,

If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other. (NIV, Genesis 11:6-7)

So god made the people speak many different languages so they could not work together on building the city and tower. Then he scattered the people around the world and the city was abandoned. The city was called "Babel" because God confused their languages.

1)Do christians really think that ancient man was able to build such a tower that touched the clouds? (The world's tallest man-made structure is the 829.8 m (2,722 ft) tall Burj Khalifa in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, was such a tower taller than this and Why hasn't god destroyed it(burj) yet
2)Aeroplanes fly at 50000+ft even spaceshuttles and satelites are 300km from the ground, why doesn't god destroy them?
3)Do people really believe that this is where all languages on earth came from?
These questions are for the christians who interprete the bible literaly

Neil Armstrong and co have gone to the moon, that's some 250,000km from earth and nothing happened. I honestly do not think the account in the Tower of Babel ever happened

THE STORY OF THE TOWER OF BABEL IS SYMBOLIC. THE TOWER THAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN WAS NIMROD THE KING. HE WANTED THE WHOLE WORLD TO WORSHIP HIM IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. HE IS THE TOWER THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN MEANING THE WHOLE WORLD WILL LOOK UP TO HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AS GOD. THIS WAY THE PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THE WORLD WILL BE IN UNISON UNDER ONE RULER ( LEST WE BE SCATTERED WE STILL HAVE A COMMON FOCAL POINT )

dekung: Neil Armstrong and co have gone to the moon, that's some 250,000km from earth and nothing happened. I honestly do not think the account in the Tower of Babel ever happened

Exactly

obadiah777: THE STORY OF THE TOWER OF BABEL IS SYMBOLIC. THE TOWER THAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN WAS NIMROD THE KING. HE WANTED THE WHOLE WORLD TO WORSHIP HIM IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. HE IS THE TOWER THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN MEANING THE WHOLE WORLD WILL LOOK UP TO HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AS GOD. THIS WAY THE PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THE WORLD WILL BE IN UNISON UNDER ONE RULER ( LEST WE BE SCATTERED WE STILL HAVE A COMMON FOCAL POINT )

*confused*

obadiah777: THE STORY OF THE TOWER OF BABEL IS SYMBOLIC. THE TOWER THAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN WAS NIMROD THE KING. HE WANTED THE WHOLE WORLD TO WORSHIP HIM IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. HE IS THE TOWER THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT TO HEAVEN MEANING THE WHOLE WORLD WILL LOOK UP TO HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AS GOD. THIS WAY THE PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THE WORLD WILL BE IN UNISON UNDER ONE RULER ( LEST WE BE SCATTERED WE STILL HAVE A COMMON FOCAL POINT )

Really? So nimrod would make his way to asia, china and the americas if God didnt stop him?

The story is farcical. As is noahs ark.

Atheist:-D:


Really? So nimrod would make his way to asia, china and the americas if God didnt stop him?

The story is farcical. As is noahs ark.

MOST OF THOSE ( AMERICA ETC ETC ) WERE UNDISCOVERED LAND BACK THEN. THE WHOLE WORLD REVOLVED AROUND THE MIDDLE-EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

Heatblast:

*confused*

NIMROD TRIED TO GET THE WHOLE KNOWN WORLD BACK THEN TO WORSHIP HIM. AND IT WAS PRETTY EASY SEEING AS EVERYONE SPOKE THE SAME LANGUAGE. HEBREW. HE WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO CREATE A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE. PICK UP A HISTORY BOOK

obadiah777: MOST OF THOSE ( AMERICA ETC ETC ) WERE UNDISCOVERED LAND BACK THEN. THE WHOLE WORLD REVOLVED AROUND THE MIDDLE-EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

Yes. So why did God stop him? He didnt have the capability to unite the world

Heatblast: It is said that the descendants of Noah all spoke a single language. As they increased in number and began to spread eastward, they found a fertile area called Shinar and settled there. They decided to build a city with a tower that "reached to the heavens." They wanted the tower to be a proud monument to themselves and a symbol that would keep them united as a powerful people.

However, god was not so pleased. He came down and looked at the city and tower and said,

If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other. (NIV, Genesis 11:6-7)

So god made the people speak many different languages so they could not work together on building the city and tower. Then he scattered the people around the world and the city was abandoned. The city was called "Babel" because God confused their languages.

1)Do christians really think that ancient man was able to build such a tower that touched the clouds? (The world's tallest man-made structure is the 829.8 m (2,722 ft) tall Burj Khalifa in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, was such a tower taller than this and Why hasn't god destroyed it(burj) yet
2)Aeroplanes fly at 50000+ft even spaceshuttles and satelites are 300km from the ground, why doesn't god destroy them?
3)Do people really believe that this is where all languages on earth came from?
These questions are for the christians who interprete the bible literaly

Listen, let me explain it to you well... Those Babel dudes had a purpose, their purpose was to see God, and they intended on doing it, by building that tower... The world's tallest building wasn't built with that same purpose, that's why God didn't destroy it..or hasn't destroyed it yet... GOT IT

Toluwarni: Listen, let me explain it to you well... Those Babel dudes had a purpose, their purpose was to see God, and they intended on doing it, by building that tower... The world's tallest building wasn't built with that same purpose, that's why God didn't destroy it..or hasn't destroyed it yet... GOT IT

So how would they have seen God? The tower would have lead to space.... and then what? Mars? Where is God? How can one see God if He wishes to remain unseen?

Nothing you said adds up. The story is farcical and fiction on the level of J.R.R. Tolkien.

Atheist:-D:


So how would they have seen God? The tower would have lead to space.... and then what? Mars? Where is God? How can one see God if He wishes to remain unseen?

Nothing you said adds up. The story is farcical and fiction on the level of J.R.R. Tolkien.

OK...The thing is even If God comes down today and reveals himself to you.. You won't believe.. Ok I just have one question, If you can answer me I'll become an atheist for LIFE... How else did Language(s) come about Or did they evolve with us to LMFAO..

Toluwarni: OK...The thing is even If God comes down today and reveals himself to you.. You won't believe.. Ok I just have one question, If you can answer me I'll become an atheist for LIFE... How else did Language(s) come about Or did they evolve with us to LMFAO..

Languages evolve. . .Hope you know that the english language we are speaking today did not exist about 5000 years ago?. . .The english language we are using to communicate today evolved from the anglo saxon language which has now died away. . .languages evolve, some live and others die out. . .The language spoken by the ancient egyptians that built the pyramids about 5000 years ago is dead. . .5000 years ago nobody spoke english because the language had not been developed yet. . .Languages like very other thing is a human invention, humans invented languages, writing and numbers, everything, even languages are still under going development as new words are formed all the time. . .Non of it has to do with any god. . .

mazaje1:

Languages evolve. . .Hope you know that the english language we are speaking today did not exist about 5000 years ago?. . .The english language we are using to communicate today evolved from the anglo saxon language which has now died away. . .languages evolve, some live and others die out. . .The language spoken by the ancient egyptians that built the pyramids about 5000 years ago is dead. . .5000 years ago nobody spoke english because the language had not been developed yet. . .Languages like very other thing is a human invention, humans invented languages, writing and numbers, everything, even languages are still under going development as new words are formed all the time. . .Non of it has to do with any god. . .

See you... Even scientists have not been able to answer that question, Languages don't evolve.. A scientist proposed this same theory, but the dismissed it.. So you're not convincing enough.

Toluwarni: OK...The thing is even If God comes down today and reveals himself to you.. You won't believe.. Ok I just have one question, If you can answer me I'll become an atheist for LIFE... How else did Language(s) come about Or did they evolve with us to LMFAO..

and when they say educated pple should come out. you ma go show face. smh!
please dont become an atheist. please!

@ Toluwarni-Please don't ever lose your faith our God is real.

@Op- Your question may be summarise this way: What did the tower look like? Are there any records of Noah’s descendants found throughout the world after they left Babel? What about different languages?

Renowned chronologist Archbishop James Ussher; placed the time of Babel at (2242 BC)106 years after the Flood, when Peleg was born. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan ( Genesis 10:25 ).
Although this may not be the exact date, it is in range because Peleg was in the fourth generation after the Flood.

The Tower of Babel has traditionally been depicted as a type of ziggurat, although the Bible doesn’t give specific dimensions. The Hebrew word for tower used in Genesis 11 , referring to the Tower of Babel, is migdal: a tower; by analogy, a rostrum; figuratively, a (pyramidal) bed of flowers.
Interestingly, this word means tower but figuratively reflects a flowerbed that yields a pyramidal shape. This gives a little support to the idea that the Tower of Babel may have been pyramidal or ziggurat shaped.
(emphasis added Is not a skyscraper building)

When people were scattered from the Tower of Babel in the time of Peleg, they likely took this building concept with them to places all over the world. It makes sense that many of the families that were scattered from Babel took varying ideas of the tower to their new lands and began building projects of their own.
Ziggurats, pyramids, mounds, and the like have been found in many parts of the world—from Mesopotamia to Egypt to South America. The ancient Chinese built pyramids and the Mississippian culture built mounds. Pyramids are classed slightly differently from ziggurats, as are mounds, but the similarities are striking.

Though is not yet know to some scientists why these people decided to camp themselves in one place.

Why did the people at Shinar build a tower? Some suspect that they were afraid of another flood, similar to the one that Noah and his sons had informed them about. However, Dr. John Gill casts doubt on this idea.

So try to find out some hebrew words that were used in the Bible before you conclude.
Thanks

Toluwarni: See you... Even scientists have not been able to answer that question, Languages don't evolve.. A scientist proposed this same theory, but the dismissed it.. So you're not convincing enough.

And which scientist says languages do not evolve? So far anthropologist and historians all agree than languages evolve. There are currently two theories as to how languages evolved amongst humans. To claim that scientist dismissed the theory is to not know what you are talking about. I gave you example of the English language and how it evolved from the Anglo Saxon language. All languages evolved. There was a time in human history that languages were absent.

Emusan: @ Toluwarni-Please don't ever lose your faith our God is real.

@Op- Your question may be summarise this way: What did the tower look like? Are there any records of Noah’s descendants found throughout the world after they left Babel? What about different languages?

Renowned chronologist Archbishop James Ussher; placed the time of Babel at (2242 BC)106 years after the Flood, when Peleg was born. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan ( Genesis 10:25 ).
Although this may not be the exact date, it is in range because Peleg was in the fourth generation after the Flood.

The Tower of Babel has traditionally been depicted as a type of ziggurat, although the Bible doesn’t give specific dimensions. The Hebrew word for tower used in Genesis 11 , referring to the Tower of Babel, is migdal: a tower; by analogy, a rostrum; figuratively, a (pyramidal) bed of flowers.
Interestingly, this word means tower but figuratively reflects a flowerbed that yields a pyramidal shape. This gives a little support to the idea that the Tower of Babel may have been pyramidal or ziggurat shaped.
(emphasis added Is not a skyscraper building)

When people were scattered from the Tower of Babel in the time of Peleg, they likely took this building concept with them to places all over the world. It makes sense that many of the families that were scattered from Babel took varying ideas of the tower to their new lands and began building projects of their own.
Ziggurats, pyramids, mounds, and the like have been found in many parts of the world—from Mesopotamia to Egypt to South America. The ancient Chinese built pyramids and the Mississippian culture built mounds. Pyramids are classed slightly differently from ziggurats, as are mounds, but the similarities are striking.

Though is not yet know to some scientists why these people decided to camp themselves in one place.

Why did the people at Shinar build a tower? Some suspect that they were afraid of another flood, similar to the one that Noah and his sons had informed them about. However, Dr. John Gill casts doubt on this idea.

So try to find out some hebrew words that were used in the Bible before you conclude.
Thanks

People from other cultures have been speaking their languages long before 2242bc. Even the Egyptian pyramids are older than 2242bc. Chinese civilization is much older than 2242bc. Get your facts right. So many languages were already in existence before 2242bc.

obadiah777: MOST OF THOSE ( AMERICA ETC ETC ) WERE UNDISCOVERED LAND BACK THEN. THE WHOLE WORLD REVOLVED AROUND THE MIDDLE-EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

What?
Undiscovered land?
What exactly do you mean by undiscovered land?

I sense slave mentality here.
So Anywhere white men have not been to is undiscovered?

Toluwarni: See you... Even scientists have not been able to answer that question, Languages don't evolve.. A scientist proposed this same theory, but the dismissed it.. So you're not convincing enough.

Which scientist?

languages evolve.
The Broken english that we speak in Nigeria is a good example.
Every major language have many variations that evolved from the original.

mazaje1:
People from other cultures have been speaking their languages long before 2242bc. Even the Egyptian pyramids are older than 2242bc. Chinese civilization is much older than 2242bc. Get your facts right. So many languages were already in existence before 2242bc.

State the year(s) they have been speaking the language and what asertain your claims. Don't quote me without support.

Emusan:

State the year(s) they have been speaking the language and what asertain your claims. Don't quote me without support.

The ancient egyptian and sumerian laguages were spoken over years 7000 years ago . Here is a link that gives a little history of human languages. . .The ancient eygptian language predates the hebrew language of the bible. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1377150/Every-language-evolved-single-prehistoric-mother-tongue-spoken-Africa.html

mazaje1:

The ancient egyptian and sumerian laguages were spoken over years 7000 years ago . Here is a link that gives a little history of human languages. . .The ancient eygptian language predates the hebrew language of the bible. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1377150/Every-language-evolved-single-prehistoric-mother-tongue-spoken-Africa.html

Firstly, the year you wrote is more than Earth age itself because God created this Earth about 6000years ago.

Lastly, go and read more about language and see how people choose a particular language.

mazaje1:

The ancient egyptian and sumerian laguages were spoken over years 7000 years ago . Here is a link that gives a little history of human languages. . .The ancient eygptian language predates the hebrew language of the bible. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1377150/Every-language-evolved-single-prehistoric-mother-tongue-spoken-Africa.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language Y'all should do some reading
Nnnofaith, i know you don't have credit to check the link, lemme post if here so you can see
The origin of language in the human species has been the topic of scholarly discussions for several centuries. In spite of this, there is no consensus on its ultimate origin or age. One problem that makes the topic difficult to study is the lack of direct evidence. Consequently, scholars wishing to study the origins of language must draw inferences from other kinds of evidence such as the fossil record or from archaeological evidence, from contemporary language diversity, from studies of language acquisition, and from comparisons between human language and systems of communication existing among other animals, particularly other primates. It is generally agreed that the origins of language are closely tied to the origins of modern human behavior, but there is little agreement about the implications and directionality of this connection.
This shortage of empirical evidence has led many scholars to regard the entire topic as unsuitable for serious study. In 1866, the Linguistic Society of Paris went so far as to ban debates on the subject, a prohibition which remained influential across much of the western world until late in the twentieth century.[1] Today, there are numerous hypotheses about how, why, when, and where language might first have emerged.[2] It might seem that there is hardly more agreement today than there was a hundred years ago, when Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection provoked a rash of armchair speculations on the topic.[3] Since the early 1990s, however, a growing number of professional linguists, archaeologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and others have attempted to address with new methods what they are beginning to consider "the hardest problem in science"

Emusan:

Firstly, the year you wrote is more than Earth age itself because God created this Earth about 6000years ago.

Lastly, go and read more about language and see how people choose a particular language.

HUH?
Bro Mazaje,
from the bolded, case is closed.

@Emusan
Trust me bro i can't lose my faith in GOD...I've seen to many things to lose my faith in Him I'm just trying to let these dudes know how limited their thinking is Except for Mazaje.. Na only Mazaje get small sense

Toluwarni: @Emusan
Trust me bro i can't lose my faith in GOD...I've seen to many things to lose my faith in Him I'm just trying to let these dudes know how limited their thinking is Except for Mazaje.. Na only Mazaje get small sense

Hey dude,
We know you need your faith in god.
Good for you.
So what?
Drug addicts seem to need their drugs too.

So you need god, therefore god exists?

Atheists neither depend on, nor need self-created delusions to face the circumstances of life.

mazaje1:

Languages evolve. . .Hope you know that the english language we are speaking today did not exist about 5000 years ago?. . .The english language we are using to communicate today evolved from the anglo saxon language which has now died away. . .languages evolve, some live and others die out. . .The language spoken by the ancient egyptians that built the pyramids about 5000 years ago is dead. . .5000 years ago nobody spoke english because the language had not been developed yet. . .Languages like very other thing is a human invention, humans invented languages, writing and numbers, everything, even languages are still under going development as new words are formed all the time. . .Non of it has to do with any god. . .

From the perspective of modern science, the main obstacle to the evolution of language-like communication in nature is not a mechanistic one. Rather, it is the fact that symbols — arbitrary associations of sounds or other perceptible forms with corresponding meanings — are unreliable and may well be false.[40] As the saying goes, 'words are cheap.'[41] The problem of reliability was not recognised at all by Darwin, Müller or the other early evolutionist theorists.

plaetton:

Hey dude,
We know you need your faith in god.
Good for you.
So what?
Drug addicts seem to need their drugs too.

So you need god, therefore god exists?

Atheists neither depend on, nor need self-created delusions to face the circumstances of life.

OK

plaetton:
HUH?
Bro Mazaje,
from the bolded, case is closed.

Thread closed because I said Earth is about 6000years old, yes I can defend it anywhere. Though some pastors, bishops e.t.c go with billion years but mine is God created this universe about 6000years ago.

Toluwarni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language Y'all should do some reading
Nnnofaith, i know you don't have credit to check the link, lemme post if here so you can see
The origin of language in the human species has been the topic of scholarly discussions for several centuries. In spite of this, there is no consensus on its ultimate origin or age. One problem that makes the topic difficult to study is the lack of direct evidence. Consequently, scholars wishing to study the origins of language must draw inferences from other kinds of evidence such as the fossil record or from archaeological evidence, from contemporary language diversity, from studies of language acquisition, and from comparisons between human language and systems of communication existing among other animals, particularly other primates. It is generally agreed that the origins of language are closely tied to the origins of modern human behavior, but there is little agreement about the implications and directionality of this connection.
This shortage of empirical evidence has led many scholars to regard the entire topic as unsuitable for serious study. In 1866, the Linguistic Society of Paris went so far as to ban debates on the subject, a prohibition which remained influential across much of the western world until late in the twentieth century.[1] Today, there are numerous hypotheses about how, why, when, and where language might first have emerged.[2] It might seem that there is hardly more agreement today than there was a hundred years ago, when Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection provoked a rash of armchair speculations on the topic.[3] Since the early 1990s, however, a growing number of professional linguists, archaeologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and others have attempted to address with new methods what they are beginning to consider "the hardest problem in science"

This still does not negate the fact that languages evolved. . .The origin of human language is a huge problem but evolution of languages is something we witness even now, the pigin english my man plaetton alluded to evolved from the english language, same with the jamaican patua and creayol. . .Languages were formed by humans and not by any god or not during any tower of bable mythical story. . .

Emusan:

Firstly, the year you wrote is more than Earth age itself because God created this Earth about 6000years ago.

Lastly, go and read more about language and see how people choose a particular language.

Where and when did any god tell you he created the earth 6000 years ago?. . .This claim of your is a scientific claim, if it is true then we will be able to measure it, do you have any scientific evidence or system of dating that shows that the earth is 6000 years old?. . .