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slimghost: Nice list Sagamite, but pls and pls yank Essien's name off that list. Even Sunday Oliseh was a better player and achieved more both at club and National levels

How old are you? sunday/monday/tuesday Oliseh aint fit enuff to lace Essien's boots

Sagamite:

Go and look at WPoY list for 2009.

He was injured shotly after getting to Madrid. He was bought as their star player.

At least Okocha was playing and he is regarded as a God, not just a good player, in the teams he played for. Unlike Kanu that watched the matches live.

Go to Turkey and say you are Nigerian and see whether you will not get a free drink.

How easy is it to be a top player in bottom clubs. I am sure if you also go to Reading they would make you club captain.

Victor moses was messiah in Wigan what became of him now at Chelsea?

Go to Wigan and say you are from Victor moses village dem go take shayo wound you, But that doesnt make him top 1,000 anywhere

dayokanu:

Thats news from Complete Sports

Theres no player that would decline top clubs and go to relegation battlers like Bolton

Have you seen any student decline Havard for Oko Poly?

There are different reasons why a player may want to go to a lower team and it may includes but not limited to salary and play time. Some players don't want to be part of a team but they want to be the team.

idanbox1:
what of yaya toure?

He is at specsavers buying you a 2-for-1 special offer.

slimghost: Nice list Sagamite, but pls and pls yank Essien's name off that list. Even Sunday Oliseh was a better player and achieved more both at club and National levels

When was Oliseh ever in the top 10 midfielders in the world, talkless of top 10 footballers in the world like Essien?

dayokanu:

What are the type of players that only excel at low level clubs and are not desired by top clubs. Zidane, Figo, Messi, Ronaldo Lima, C Ronaldo etc are all playing for top clubs

Top players play for top clubs, If you are good big clubs would come for you

So Bebeto was shyt?

J12:

Patrick Mboma was the highest goal scorer for the Cameroonian national team before he was replaced by Eto.
If Rashidi yekini made your list, Mboma deserves a spot there too. In my personal opinion, Mboma is way better than Yekini.

Mboma is better than Yekini by scoring 33 goals in 57 matches, while Yekini Scored 37 in 58?

Mboma is better than Yekini by playing for the national team for 9 years, while Yekini played for 14?

When was Mboma ever as scary a striker in front of defenders like Yekini?

Theloveth: Saga bro am gonna fight you.All your arguments and counter arguments are top notch but i think u made a mistake.Not including aboutreika and Ahmed hassan,i mean these guys wont 3 consecutive afcons and abou like 3 or 4 caf championsleague.I think aboutreika deserves it IMHO.I dont like Diouf too but i think Dayo have a valid argument.2/3 years of flashness doesnt matter,he made a difference then so let him in.Van Basten has a short and fulfilled playing career too na

Aboutreika was that good, considering he played in the 2000s, he would have been in Europe too.

He is good but not one of the 50 greatest. There are many more quality players that missed out.

J12:

If I were to compile a list of the Thirty best ever european footballers, Xavi and Iniesta won't make the list.

But Puyol and Casillas will?

miracle oscar: I don't want to b sentimental.pls admim remove this post
But if it must remain,were are the likes of Ben Mccarthy,Mark Fish,the Biyiks,the list is endless.the originator of this post is a jerk.

Massinga, Mccarthy and Fish are good footballers. But I don't they deserve to be in the list

Sagamite:
So Bebeto was shyt?

Bebeto won the world cup as a top player and when he was a Deportivo player the club was second in the La Liga losing on goal difference to Barcelona

Mention one cup Okocha won as a key player, or which team he played for thats worthy of note

dayokanu:

How easy is it to be a top player in bottom clubs. I am sure if you also go to Reading they would make you club captain.

Victor moses was messiah in Wigan what became of him now at Chelsea?

Go to Wigan and say you are from Victor moses village dem go take shayo wound you, But that doesnt make him top 1,000 anywhere

The same type of bottom club that Kanu could not be a top player and went there to bench after years of benching?

Then apart from Kanu watching Thierry Henry and Anelka live (I agree that is a tremendous achievement), compare Kanu and Jay Jay at national level.

dayokanu:

Bebeto won the world cup as a top player and when he was a Deportivo player the club was second in the La Liga losing on goal difference to Barcelona

Mention one cup Okocha won as a key player, or which team he played for thats worthy of note

So, PSG and Fenabache are not worthy of note?

Sagamite:

The same type of bottom club that Kanu could not be a top player and went there to bench after years of benching?

Then apart from Kanu watching Thierry Henry live (I agree that is a tremendous achievement), compare Kanu and Jay Jay at national level.

Kanu went to a bottom club at his decline.

When kanu was top dog he played for Ajax, Inter and Arsenal clubs Okocha can never smell

Kanu started as striker for Ajax in the 1996 Champions league final

Kanu led Nigeria to her greatest triumph in football 1996 Olympics

Abeg bros tell us about what Jayjay won or did in his whole career

i dey go sleep jare

Afam4eva:
So, PSG and Fenabache are not worthy of note?

Fenerbahce? Do you know Turkish league is like 9th in Europe? Thats where okocha played his youthful years

dayokanu:

Bebeto won the world cup as a top player and when he was a Deportivo player the club was second in the La Liga losing on goal difference to Barcelona

Mention one cup Okocha won as a key player, or which team he played for thats worthy of note

But your argument is "Top players play for top clubs, If you are good big clubs would come for you"?

Who cares whether his team won WC?

According to you, he must be shyt becuase big clubs did not come for him.

So you now realise a top player might not play for a top club? Just like Juninho P of Lyon as well? And Gascoigne?

dayokanu:

Kanu went to a bottom club at his decline.

When kanu was top dog he played for Ajax, Inter and Arsenal clubs Okocha can never smell

Kanu started as striker for Ajax in the 1996 Champions league final

Kanu led Nigeria to her greatest triumph in football 1996 Olympics

Abeg bros tell us about what Jayjay won or did in his whole career

i dey go sleep jare

But Kanu went to a bottom club at 28, Okocha went to Bolton (your Poly) at 29. Yet Okocha shone like a million stars.

Sorry mate, Kanu was at decline at 21 when he started benching like Assistant coach.

Sagamite:


Mboma is better than Yekini by scoring 33 goals in 57 matches, while Yekini Scored 37 in 58?

Mboma is better than Yekini by playing for the national team for 9 years, while Yekini played for 14?

When was Mboma ever as scary a striker in front of defenders like Yekini?

their stats look quite similar.
Anyway you can't put the awful Songo'o , the shame of a whole country on that list and let MBOMA out.
We are talking about MBOMA here tell which can the dude played and didn't finish top scorer
In the name of my country I ask you to remove Songo'o and put Mboma "ndem"

dayokanu:

Fenerbahce? Do you know Turkish league is like 9th in Europe? Thats where okocha played his youthful years

It's not about the position of the league but the status of the club. Fenerbahce has one of the biggest history in european football even ahead of Arsenal and all those mushroom top-tier teams in England.

CAMEROONPRIDE: their stats look quite similar.
Anyway you can't put the awful Songo'o , the shame of a whole country on that list and let MBOMA out.
We are talking about MBOMA here tell which can the dude played and didn't finish top scorer
In the name of my country I ask you to remove Songo'o and put Mboma "ndem"

The same Songo'o that was one of the best 5 keepers in the world in his time?

Sorry he disappointed your nation, but he is a top talent in his club for many years.

Emotions never come into my analyses.

Brown Bread:

How old are you? sunday/monday/tuesday Oliseh aint fit enuff to lace Essien's boots

I should be the one asking about your age kid? Go check Oilseh's impact in the Ajax and Dortmund team in the late Nineties . Still waiting for Essien's achievements.

Sagamite:

Mboma is better than Yekini by scoring 33 goals in 57 matches, while Yekini Scored 37 in 58?

Mboma is better than Yekini by playing for the national team for 9 years, while Yekini played for 14?

When was Mboma ever as scary a striker in front of defenders like Yekini?

If he wasn't a fiery striker, he wouldn't take cameroon to two world cups, win back to back African Cup titles + win an olympic medal. He also won the african player of the year award.
In all honesty, diouf and mboma deserve to be in your list. They are both better than Yekini.

Sagamite:
But Puyol and Casillas will?

Hell yeah.

Sagamite:





When was Oliseh ever in the top 10 midfielders in the world, talkless of top 10 footballers in the world like Essien?

So that gives him a place in your list? . Na waaaa ooo.You need to google up Sunday Oliseh again man.

Sagamite:

The same Songo'o that was one of the best 5 keepers in the world in his time?

Sorry he disappointed your nation, but he is a top talent in his club for many years.

Emotions never come into my analyses.

he is not even among our top5 goalkeepers.
Are we talking about the same Songo'o who took 6goals against yougoslavia? Sha

Can=Afcon sorry.

funny ranking. who is essien compared to kanu. who is y.toure to nwankwo kanu. y will kanu be mention after both and others. a guy dat under went hrt surgery came back and still won african ft of da yr. make dis man pack him face nd ranking jareeee.

J12:

If he wasn't a fiery striker, he wouldn't take cameroon to two world cups, win back to back African Cup titles + win an olympic medal. He also won the african player of the year award.
In all honesty, diouf and mboma deserve to be in your list. They are both better than Yekini.

Hell yeah.

I never said he was not a fiery striker, how is he better than Yekini?

How did he take Cameroun to 2 WCs? Was he the coach or something I was not aware of?

Also explain to me how Diouf was better than Yekini?

slimghost:

So that gives him a place in your list? . Na waaaa ooo.You need to google up Sunday Oliseh again man.

Answer my question na.

CAMEROONPRIDE: he is not even among our top5 goalkeepers.
Are we talking about the same Songo'o who took 6goals against yougoslavia? Sha

That one match na wetin still dey pain you till today?

He was a great keeper. FACT!

k'nash:
funny ranking. who is essien compared to kanu. who is y.toure to nwankwo kanu. y will kanu be mention after both and others. a guy dat under went hrt surgery came back and still won african ft of da yr. make dis man pack him face nd ranking jareeee.

My friend, go and pick your books and prepare for your WAEC and NECO exams.

To me the way i late players is neither club nor national team performance,i late a player according to his individual performance.Thats why i suggest that Jay Jay Okocha supposed to come second after Samuel Eto'o

pword: To me the way i late players is neither club nor national team performance,i late a player according to his individual performance.Thats why i suggest that Jay Jay Okocha supposed to come second after Samuel Eto'o

And not only is the way you rate players wrong, the way you apply your poor rating approach is even more ridiculous.

Okocha over Abedi Pele. Okocha over Hossam Hassan?

In your wildest drrrrrrreams!

CAMEROONPRIDE: their stats look quite similar.
Anyway you can't put the awful Songo'o , the shame of a whole country on that list and let MBOMA out.
We are talking about MBOMA here tell which can the dude played and didn't finish top scorer
In the name of my country I ask you to remove Songo'o and put Mboma "ndem"

You cannot just rule out transcontinental exploits. Without that 75% of those on the list won't be there. I really feel for Patrick. Was a great striker. Just didn't have the luck of foreign exploits. George Weah never won anything in Africa yet he rates miles ahead of Hosam Hasan who's got 3 or is it 4 Nation's Cup medals. Is it fair. No. But that is life.

Am sure the list is in order and I hav a problem with the 1st and 2nd position...i think george weah shuld be 1st ..
*3 time african footballer of the year
*european footballer of the year(1995)
*world footballer of the year(1995)
*he was even voted as the african footballer of the century(go for ur research if u doubt it)
*he played for 11 different teams and he won plenty cups(italia cup,french cup e.t.c)
samuel etoo has a similar achievement but WORLD FOOTBALLER OF THE YEAR? Nada

george weah has never featured in a world Cup is dat why his 2nd on the list,plz tell me

Brown Bread:

How old are you? sunday/monday/tuesday Oliseh aint fit enuff to lace Essien's boots

rr


Guy through your comment i guess you was a kindergarten while Oliseh was playing

pword: rr


Guy through your comment i guess you was a kindergarten while Oliseh was playing

The kid started watching football during Essien's era. so dont blame him.

Sagamite:

I never said he was not a fiery striker, how is he better than Yekini?

How did he take Cameroun to 2 WCs? Was he the coach or something I was not aware of?









That one match na wetin still dey pain you till today?

He was a great keeper. FACT!

1)by scoring
2) you can't imagine how embarrassing it was

Reference:

You cannot just rule out transcontinental exploits. Without that 75% of those on the list won't be there. I really feel for Patrick. Was a great striker. Just didn't have the luck of foreign exploits. George Weah never won anything in Africa yet he rates miles ahead of Hosam Hasan who's got 3 or is it 4 Nation's Cup medals. Is it fair. No. But that is life.

I'm crying actually, so you mean the guy won't make history despite everything he made for this continent? We are Africans before everything, transcontinental exploits shouldn't count that much when judging our players.

No Mohammed Aboutrika? No Ahmed Hassan, the most capped African footballer? Is this a Joke or what.

At least three of the Egyptian players that won the 2004 and 2008 nations cup should be in that list.

Ahmed Hassan, the most capped footballer in the World. Won 4 African Nations Cup titles and not in your list?

Because them be home based players, you rank Essien you no rank them? What a joke.

You need to beg your Pastor to pray for forgiveness for disrespecting an African great, Ahmed Hassan.

Dasijmilano: Am sure the list is in order and I hav a problem with the 1st and 2nd position...i think george weah shuld be 1st ..
*3 time african footballer of the year
*european footballer of the year(1995)
*world footballer of the year(1995)
*he was even voted as the african footballer of the century(go for ur research if u doubt it)
*he played for 11 different teams and he won plenty cups(italia cup,french cup e.t.c)
samuel etoo has a similar achievement but WORLD FOOTBALLER OF THE YEAR? Nada

george weah has never featured in a world Cup is dat why his 2nd on the list,plz tell me

Really arguable.

But:

- Etoo has been at the top for more than 7 straight years now.
- Etoo is more prolific at club level (lets not even talk about national because that would be grossly unfair to Weah)
- Etoo scores all kinds of goals Weah would struggle to score.

Tight but over time, I would give it to Etoo for longevity, prolific-ness and variety of ability.

CAMEROONPRIDE:
1)by scoring
2) you can't imagine how embarrassing it was

So you are in the crowd of strikers should take all the glory?

Pele. I know it pained.

CAMEROONPRIDE: I'm crying actually, so you mean the guy won't make history despite everything he made for this continent? We are Africans before everything, transcontinental exploits shouldn't count that much when judging our players.

We should ignore our players' glorious performances at the best level in favour of performances at an inferior level?

pword: To me the way i late players is neither club nor national team performance,i late a player according to his individual performance.Thats why i suggest that Jay Jay Okocha supposed to come second after Samuel Eto'o

Wrong, wrong. The way I would rather rate players is this: Trophies (in accordance with tournament viewing attendances), Impact (the percentage of team success attributable to you), Longevity (the number of years we've enjoyed watching you perform at top level) and if there remains a tie, personal stuff such as skill, character, and all the petty stuff we quarrel about.

That's why I chose to ignore the mention of Yaya Toure and others. They are still at their peaks and can either chose to do better or end it regretfully.