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Wrong, wrong. The way I would rather rate players is this: Trophies (in accordance with tournament viewing attendances), Impact (the percentage of team success attributable to you), Longevity (the number of years we've enjoyed watching you perform at top level) and if there remains a tie, personal stuff such as skill, character, and all the petty stuff we quarrel about.

That's why I chose to ignore the mention of Yaya Toure and others. They are still at their peaks and can either chose to do better or end it regretfully.

I would put skills/ability above throphies anyday.

Throphies are a function of a team, skills is based on the individual.

Otherwise, Gary Neville would be one of the greatest.

And Austin Eguavon would be regarded as better than Diouf!

Sagamite:

I would put skills/ability above throphies anyday.

Throphies are a function of a team, skills is based on the individual.

Otherwise, Gary Neville would be one of the greatest.

And Austin Eguavon would be regarded as better than Diouf!

Please kindly edit your list and add Ahmed Hassan's name to it.

It is a big joke if that mans name is not on that list.

CAMEROONPRIDE: I'm crying actually, so you mean the guy won't make history despite everything he made for this continent? We are Africans before everything, transcontinental exploits shouldn't count that much when judging our players.

C'mon dude. Let's be honest. Who wouldn't have wished for George Weah in his team anyday. You'd have gladly exchanged him for Patrick. Country cheated Weah. Club cheated Mboma. Not fair world eh. In terms of football would you rate FC Liberia to AC Milano. Not fair. No contest.

Sagamite:



So you are in the crowd of strikers should take all the glory?

Pele. I know it pained.



We should ignore our players' glorious performances at the best level in favour of performances at an inferior level?

You mean Afcon, World cup, confederation cup and Olympic are an inferior level? You are aware that these competitions reunite the best teams of each continent except 4 Afcon
You can call the Afcon of today inferior but back then it was a great and hard competition.
Ya it pained a lot?

@ Sagamite, on what criteria did you rated Michael Essien (Ghana) and Samuel Kuffour (Ghana) before Rashidi Yekini (Nigeria)?

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C'mon dude. Let's be honest. Who wouldn't have wished for George Weah in his team anyday. You'd have gladly exchanged him for Patrick. Country cheated Weah. Club cheated Mboma. Not fair world eh. In terms of football would you rate FC Liberia to AC Milano. Not fair. No contest.

I know Weah he even played in Cameroon. But this is daylight robbery Songo'o can't be there and MBOMA ruled out na waaa ooo

Chanchit:

But Abou Trika still deserves to be among the top 10 from any angle you look it from, club or country,

Even Egyptians hardly rate Abu Treika among their Top 10, when they have Hassan Hosam, Ahmed Hassan, and other players of their golden generation.

Sagamite:

I would put skills/ability above throphies anyday.

Throphies are a function of a team, skills is based on the individual.

Otherwise, Gary Neville would be one of the greatest.

And Austin Eguavon would be regarded as better than Diouf!

Assessments are compounded. Sum of averages. You may do badly in one and exceptionally well in others and still fail or end up on top of the pile. It depends. Why I don't do skill is because it is part art, part technique, highly subjective. Not appreciated equally worldwide.

Sagamite:

I never said he was not a fiery striker, how is he better than Yekini?

How did he take Cameroun to 2 WCs? Was he the coach or something I was not aware of?

Also explain to me how Diouf was better than Yekini?

Mboma(and Geremi) was the most influential player in the Cameroonian team during his time and he won more titles for his team than Yekini. He also scored better goals than Yekini. Yekini's goals are mostly tap-in's, even Yakubu scores better goals.

At his position he was the best

Jarus:

Foe was a regular player, not extra-ordinary. His death on pitch only popularized him.

slimghost:

I should be the one asking about your age kid? Go check Oilseh's impact in the Ajax and Dortmund team in the late Nineties . Still waiting for Essien's achievements.

u r a complete joke wot impact did oliseh had, any sensible person will know Essien is miles ahead of oliseh. Tackling, running, strength, incredible goals ......etc. Essien have it more
stop making a clown out of urself

CAMEROONPRIDE: I still can't believe you guys let PATRICK MBOMA out

One season/Nation's cup wonder.

dayokanu: I agree with most of the position except a few.

A very sensible list if you ask me

The Nigerians on that list I disagree with their positions. The best Nigeria should be the one who was ranked highest in the world by FIFA, who won 2 African footballer of the year awards, Won several club titles

Nigerian ranking should be

KANU Nwankwo
Finidi
Mikel
Yekini
Taribo
Oliseh
Amuneke
Okocha
Amokachi
Ikpeba

guy you placed mikel above okocha,amokachi, ikpeba ? where are bk boys when you need them

J12:

Mboma(and Geremi) was the most influential player in the Cameroonian team during his time and he won more titles for his team than Yekini. He also scored better goals than Yekini. Yekini's goals are mostly tap-in's, even Yakubu scores better goals.

ohh Girl you know so much.
Oga Sagamite why Geremi Sorel Njitap is not on your list?

Jarus:

One season/Nation's cup wonder.

you probably didn't own a t.v or couldn't watch Afcon2000/2002 Sydney2000 etc sheii see disrespect. Mboma is now a one season wonder.

Jarus:

One season/Nation's cup wonder.

You do agree you cannot make a list of "African Greats" without Ahmed Hassan on the list?

Like they say, it is his list and so it is his opinion. However, I find it a bit disrespectful to the achievements of that man in the African game.

J12:

Mboma(and Geremi) was the most influential player in the Cameroonian team during his time and he won more titles for his team than Yekini. He also scored better goals than Yekini. Yekini's goals are mostly tap-in's, even Yakubu scores better goals.

But what happened in Europe. Yekini was top scorer for his portugese club for two seasons and a leading marksman in Portugal and in so doing taking a modest Vitoria Setubal to the UEFA (now Europa) cup. Scored Nigeria's first goal at the world cup in a team regarded as the tournament's most entertaining (not for Amokachi's dance moves though)

pword: rr


Guy through your comment i guess you was a kindergarten while Oliseh was playing

compare oliseh to djemba djemba cus he is no where near the class of the boison. £24.4 million more expensive than Drogba.

Jarus:

One season/Nation's cup wonder.

The same with Yekini, One season nations cup wonder. I remember 94 world cup quite well, that nigga missed a poo load of goals that Emenalo worked hard to create.

ballabriggs:

Please kindly edit your list and add Ahmed Hassan's name to it.

It is a big joke if that mans name is not on that list.

Because of what?

A modern day player that hardly anyone knows?

Speaks volumes of his ability.

CAMEROONPRIDE: You mean Afcon, World cup, confederation cup and Olympic are an inferior level? You are aware that these competitions reunite the best teams of each continent except 4 Afcon
You can call the Afcon of today inferior but back then it was a great and hard competition.
Ya it pained a lot?

What ever we were or are playing at afcon is inferior to what is being played in European leagues and World cup. Simples!

Freiburger: @ Sagamite, on what criteria did you rated Michael Essien (Ghana) and Samuel Kuffour (Ghana) before Rashidi Yekini (Nigeria)?

Yekini did not play at the highest level as these guys. These guys played at the highest level for a long time and they were key players to their team.

Jarus:
Even Egyptians hardly rate Abu Treika among their Top 10, when they have Hassan Hosam, Ahmed Hassan, and other players of their golden generation.

No mind the kids.

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Assessments are compounded. Sum of averages. You may do badly in one and exceptionally well in others and still fail or end up on top of the pile. It depends. Why I don't do skill is because it is part art, part technique, highly subjective. Not appreciated equally worldwide.

I prefer subjectives as long as the subject giving opinion is intelligent.

J12:

Mboma(and Geremi) was the most influential player in the Cameroonian team during his time and he won more titles for his team than Yekini. He also scored better goals than Yekini. Yekini's goals are mostly tap-in's, even Yakubu scores better goals.

Check your facts before you speak.

Don't argue for for argument sake or just for the sake of being seen as still arguing.

No 1, Yekini was God of his team in his time.

No 2, NEVER say a player won or carried his team EXCEPT the player is an exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat. THOSE ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS that carry teams. Lets cut this silly arguments that a player is a good player in a team, hence he won this and that for them or he carried them to space. Only exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat are. Mboma was never any of those. Neither was a superb charismatic figure that scores vital last minute goals.

No 3, Yekinis goals were mostly tap ins? Are you a joke?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGSl8rMGB8

Afam4eva:
As far as i'm concerned this is not a unique achievement. Some other African players have achieved this feat or even better but did not make the list or are somewhere down on the list.

Name 2 African players that made WPOY list for 3 consecutive years other than Eto'o, Weah and Essien and is not in the list.

I know J.J Okocha will biting his finger now if he sees this, He will be blaming him for now signing for Manchester United then cos by now he would make alot of names and history

One thing I'v noticed is that,it's never easy to prepare list of best players according to ranking.when Sepp blatter asked Pele of brazil to prepare the list of 100 best of all time, almost everybody felt like trampling on him when that list came out. People select their best sometimes based on emotions or depth of their knowlege

Jarus:

Name 2 African players that made WPOY list for 3 consecutive years other than Eto'o, Weah and Essien and is not in the list.

So, how come the Essien who was named in the WPOY in 3 consecutive years never won the African footballer of the year? What title did he win personally as a footballer?

And why is VINCENT ENYEAMA, IKE SHORUNMU and PETER RUFAI not in the list?

Brown Bread:


u r a complete joke wot impact did oliseh had, any sensible person will know Essien is miles ahead of oliseh. Tackling, running, strength, incredible goals......etc. Essien have it more
stop making a clown out of urself

Well said!

Acecube: guy you placed mikel above okocha,amokachi, ikpeba ? where are bk boys when you need them

Okocha fcked DK's wife that is why he has incandescent hate for him.

To be more serious, his rating approach is just faulty.

If a player plays in a team in a major championship final, to DK, he is the greatest ever.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ohh Girl you know so much.
Oga Sagamite why Geremi Sorel Njitap is not on your list?

Neither is Taribo West, Radebe, Ikpeba, N'Doram, Hadji etc.

He would be in top 50, it is not easy being in top 30.

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But what happened in Europe. Yekini was top scorer for his portugese club for two seasons and a leading marksman in Portugal and in so doing taking a modest Vitoria Setubal to the UEFA (now Europa) cup. Scored Nigeria's first goal at the world cup in a team regarded as the tournament's most entertaining (not for Amokachi's dance moves though)

Some people think it is beans to score 90 goals in 108 matches.

They buy that in the market.

Sagamite:
Check your facts before you speak.

Don't argue for for argument sake or just for the sake of being seen as still arguing.

No 1, Yekini was God of his team in his time.

No 2, NEVER say a player won or carried his team EXCEPT the player is an exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat. THOSE ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS that carry teams. Lets cut this silly arguments that a player is a good player in a team, hence he won this and that for them or he carried them to space. Only exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat are. Mboma was never any of those. Neither was a superb charismatic figure that scores vital last minute goals.

No 3, Yekinis goals were mostly tap ins? Are you a joke?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGSl8rMGB8

Mboma was also God of his team. Also, if Mboma wasn't an outstanding goal machine, cameroon wouldn't have won the 2000 nations cup.

Afam4eva:
So, how come the Essien who was named in the WPOY in 3 consecutive years never won the African footballer of the year? What title did he win personally as a footballer?

This is another of the rubbish judgement tools?

So Henry is also shyt because he did not win WPoY?

Luis Figo and Kaka won it. Out of these 3, which would you first buy at their peak?

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But what happened in Europe. Yekini was top scorer for his portugese club for two seasons and a leading marksman in Portugal and in so doing taking a modest Vitoria Setubal to the UEFA (now Europa) cup. Scored Nigeria's first goal at the world cup in a team regarded as the tournament's most entertaining (not for Amokachi's dance moves though)

Mboma was also a top scorer in the Japanese league. We weren't entertaining because Rashidi was part of the team. The team was generally good.

J12:

Mboma was also God of his team. Also, if Mboma wasn't an outstanding goal machine, cameroon wouldn't have won the 2000 nations cup.

You are still arguing for for argument sake or just for the sake of being seen as still arguing.

Mboma was NEVER a God for any team he played for.

Mboma was NEVER as prolific as Yekini.

Emelcee: And why is VINCENT ENYEAMA, IKE SHORUNMU and PETER RUFAI not in the list?

Just shut up now!

Don't say another word.