BABE!:


Ileobatojo, don't you just secretly wish you were a housewife?
Lounging with your kid/s? Having a good time with them? Have your whole life centered around them? Don't you just wish you have that luxury to worry less about when your next pay check will emerge, because its all about your kids? Arggh!

Life sucks, doesn't it ?!
Not everyone will have the iPhone5, some will be stuck with Nokia3310 till Jesus comes, but at least, lets be honest with ourselves.
If you keep basking in your "my nokia3310 is better than an iphone5", the dude next door that had the plan to give you an iphone5 as a gift will change his mind, because he'll think you don't want it, meanwhile na lie. . .

Nigerians and their "ako"!!

debosky:

And she has the effrontery to ask me about vitamins?

I should be asking her about her temazepam and ritalin pills.

ileobatojo: People! Please shut down this thread right now!

It has come to my attention that I am not a working mother but a stay at home mom. I will hazard a guess that JK, Greatgod, Efe and co also fall into the category of non working, stay at home moms under this new ground breaking definition. This means we are all in agreement essentially. That is unless you are a jet setting workaholic in which case, you are not part of our crew!

If you fall under this umbrella and come here to argue again, I go e-slap you!

MMotimo:
Back to work. . . . . . my household's goals are not currently achievable on one income. THAT, my friends, is the reason why I work else I would be a volunteer at the library - yes, pure honesty!

Sisi_Kill:
One needn't have to use both phones to know what is glaringly obvious – The Iphone is better than the Nokia in terms of features. It’s not an opinion. . .IT IS A FACT LAID OUT IN BLACK AND WHITE!

On the other hand, everything being said about the advantages and disadvantages of career women vs homemakers and vice versa are nothing but opinions. Until there are glaring facts showing one side's superiority over the other (like the Iphone having an IBook reader and the Nokia doesn't. . .type of facts i.e OBVIOUS) I think it is a bit deceptive to use that illustration in this case.

On a looking for trouble note, how come we never get a this vs that debate where men are the focus?!
Hmmmm!!

BABE!:


Olodo, na hin you be, if you really thought I've been arguing for useless housewives, olodo.

But I'm hoping you just pull that out of no where for the sake of not being silenced.



This post is face-palm worthy. Lordy lord. Ileobatojo is in Hyper mode. Calm down, ma. E pele. Your energy is all over the place right now. Chanel it into saying something tangible or remain silent. Stop ridiculing yourself please.



Ileobatojo, you see that?

BABE!:


Olodo, na hin you be, if you really thought I've been arguing for useless housewives, olodo.

But I'm hoping you just pull that out of no where for the sake of not being silenced.



This post is face-palm worthy. Lordy lord. Ileobatojo is in Hyper mode. Calm down, ma. E pele. Your energy is all over the place right now. Chanel it into saying something tangible or remain silent. Stop ridiculing yourself please.



Ileobatojo, you see that?

coogar:

it peeves me to the marrow when people argue this way.
by the same token, one needn't have to be married to know what is glaringly obvious that - the stayathome mum would spend more time with her kids than the stereotypical career woman. it's not an opinion, it's a fact - the more time spent with one's kids - the better for the family.

duh, nokia 3310 owners would also argue which is more cost effective - one apple phone would buy twenty nokia 3310s - why waste such money on an i-phone when the basics of calling/receiving and sending texts exist on both phones. nokia 3310 is more user friendly too and it won't attract petty thieves - this is analogous to: why spend so much time with my children when i can work, come back home and spend fewer hours?



the superiority is in the fact that the more quality/quantity time spent with one's kids the better it gets for the family - why hasn't anyone tackle this irrefutable fact? like i have said nokia owners would tell you the affordability of acquiring the apple is a huge disadvantage just like career women would tell you they cannot afford to spend so much time with their kids - even when they know they should!

and if it's glaringly obvious and indisputable like you claim that apple is better than nokia - why are some people still using their nokia then? everyone should be using the iphone - just like everyone takes water!



men are straight forward, women are complex! majority of you lots don't even know what you want.

Sisi_Kill:

And you know what many find beyond annoying?? Arguing based on a vague premise.

You hide behind your Quality Time + Quantity Time equation because of the blanket it provides.

If a point is made showing how children with homemarker moms also have issues, you can counter it with "Oh they may be home but are they spending quality time with the kids?

If a point is made showing children with working moms have turned alright you go. . . but it can be better with quantity timee....you completely distort the entire debate jumping from one side to the other (Which is why it seems you are talking outta both sides of your mouth)

The issue is simple

MOM A DOES NOT WORK
MOM B WORKS

Show us hard facts like the Nokia vs Iphone facts that children brought up with working moms are worse off. Show us facts like the Nokia vs Iphone what children with working moms lack or have that the children with homemakers do not lack or do not have. . .Facts that can be DIRECTLY LINKED to what side of the divide their moms are.

Until you can do that, it is pointless carrying on this issue with you.

coogar:

sisikill at her best in being manipulative - hehehehehene
why must it be mom A works versus mom b does not work? when we all know other circumstances play a part in what a child would be? come on - na, you are not arguing with an illiterate.

a more precise comparison would be mom A works vs mom A does not work. just like sisikill uses nokia 3310 vs sisikill uses iphone 5 - which would be more effective?

checkmate!!!!!

Sisi_Kill:
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh so now it is about ONE mom?
I thought the whole point of this 15 page thread was about how children of moms in Group A are better of than Children of Moms in Group B?!!
Lmao! I'm done with you!!

BABE!:


Olodo, na hin you be, if you really thought I've been arguing for useless housewives, olodo.

But I'm hoping you just pull that out of no where for the sake of not being silenced.

MMotimo: Back to work. . . . . . my household's goals are not currently achievable on one income. THAT, my friends, is the reason why I work else I would be a volunteer at the library - yes, pure honesty!

debosky:

And somehow in your pretty little head you assume everyone else is in the same position?

Newsflash: Many people would continue in their very jobs even if they won the lottery because they actually enjoy what they do.

Morayo747: Not a job that will leave them no time for young kids!!

debosky:
This is a pile of horse droppings - after your vacuous and senseless argument is exposed, you want to limit it to a narrow subset of housewives? Even amoeba cells do not attempt this pitiful form of shape shifting.

I won't get in your way though - you and your split personality coogar can continue posting your rubbish.

coogar:
i have asked you - would you not prefer to spend more time with your child to bond with him?

debosky:

Sure I would. Does that equate to becoming a house husband or stopping work? How much time is 'more time'?

debosky:
Sure I would. Does that equate to becoming a house husband or stopping work? How much time is 'more time'?

coogar:

that's the point - no time is lost raising one's kids the proper way. there's no too much time! every minute spent with them is worth it.
if time/work is so important - why have the child in the first place? if the value of that child is priceless then logic dictates one of the parents should stay at home and raise that child like their hearts desire.

debosky:
There is no such dictation of logic - the only logic is that the parents do their best within the constraints to give their child a good upbringing, whether that means staying at home (for a while or permanently) or working is solely the prerogative of the parents involved. There is no one size fits all.

For example, if in the name of 'spending time' my parent(s) end up sending me to the decrepit public school down the road instead of earning money to send me to a decent school, they have wasted that time.

There can be such a thing as too much time - the key is making a judgement on how best to use the available time, considering all the constraints (need for money, shelter, personal fulfillment, etc.) for the greatest good of all involved.

coogar:
really? but you just told me now you nurse the ambition of spending more time with your son.......it means deep down, you know you can do better than what the current situation is.

decrepit public school? i am starting to think nigerians don't plan for their kids with all these examples you give. why decrepit? husband n wives had jobs before the birth of their child, they also had savings - so tell me, where does the decrepit ish come from again?

too much time with one's child? i never hear that one before o!
i can spend 30 hrs per day with my child - life is too short and kids grow faster these days. before you know it, mini-me is all grown and already talking about going to college and you are there in regret thinking did i really utilise the time i had when this boy was a child?

debosky:
Spending more time doesn't mean simply not working - it may mean, for example, spending less time trying to get rational ideas into thick heads on NL.

Like I said, you live in a fantasy world, not in reality. The decision to spend unlimited time with kids is mostly not without consequences - sometimes that will mean a lower quality of education, or a sacrifice of additional earnings. It's up to those involved to decide, where they have a choice.

That's your prerogative - let others decide how to live their lives without you imposing your views.

debosky:

There is no such dictation of logic - the only logic is that the parents do their best within the constraints to give their child a good upbringing, whether that means staying at home (for a while or permanently) or working is solely the prerogative of the parents involved. There is no one size fits all.

For example, if in the name of 'spending time' my parent(s) end up sending me to the decrepit public school down the road instead of earning money to send me to a decent school, they have wasted that time. Getting too hung up on this 'spending time' with kids can lead to a warped view.

There can be such a thing as too much time - the key is making a judgement on how best to use the available time, considering all the constraints (need for money, shelter, personal fulfillment, etc.) for the greatest good of all involved.

armyofone: Interesting

It comes down to individual. I have a friend who had a great job but left it 2years ago when they had their baby. Her husband is a doc in a mil hospital. I have another friend a college graduate with masters in Education. She is a full time stay at home mom to their young children. Hubby has a good job. Most of the women I know (all white) are stay at home mom but they do volunteer at the library, very involved in church activities, join social clubs or do some on call support work. Maybe to keep busy. Staying at home for the children sake is a great idea but some people (both husband and wifey) misuse it.

To each their own, not one size fit all.

armyofone: Interesting

It comes down to individual. I have a friend who had a great job but left it 2years ago when they had their baby. Her husband is a doc in a mil hospital. I have another friend a college graduate with masters in Education. She is a full time stay at home mom to their young children. Hubby has a good job. Most of the women I know (all white) are stay at home mom but they do volunteer at the library, very involved in church activities, join social clubs or do some on call support work. Maybe to keep busy. Staying at home for the children sake is a great idea but some people (both husband and wifey) misuse it.

To each their own, not one size fit all.

maclatunji:

Is volunteering for the library the new 'cool'? You are the second person to mention it on this thread.

I would rather volunteer to test the latest hi-tech gadgets.

maclatunji:

Is volunteering for the library the new 'cool'? You are the second person to mention it on this thread.

I would rather volunteer to test the latest hi-tech gadgets.