"A bribe works like magic. Whoever uses it will prosper!"
Proverbs 17: 8...

It is wise for us to be reminded once again that we are in the book of PROVERBS… and proverbs are little nuggets of truth.
a. They are not essays.
b. They are not the final word on a subject.
c. They don’t discuss the truth from every angle.
d. Every one is different. Some are pregnant with meaning. Others make a simple statement.
e. They are all designed to make us THINK..

Acidosis: "A bribe works like magic. Whoever uses it will prosper!"
Proverbs 17: 8...

It is wise for us to be reminded once again that we are in the book of PROVERBS… and proverbs are little nuggets of truth.
a. They are not essays.
b. They are not the final word on a subject.
c. They don’t discuss the truth from every angle.
d. Every one is different. Some are pregnant with meaning. Others make a simple statement.
e. They are all designed to make us THINK..

Bribe makes you jump a long queue.

Bribe makes you evade jail

Bribe makes you pass a difficult examination

Bribe gives you upper hand.

How else do you want it explained to you. Police are benefiting from it and so are the priests and pastors .

Give Yahweh a bribe and yea shall go to heaven

^ ^ I don't need atheists on my thread, oga !

~vicky~:
good morning Acid
Translation direct from the Hebrew is:
"A bribe seems like a charm to him who uses it; He succeeds at every turn."

This seems to praise bribes, but it probably describes a course of behavior that seems valuable, but is really destructive.

Consider who is speaking, Solomon, he was a king, a politician. The "gift" is a bribe,. If you can bribe your politicians or foes, you prosper (temporarily) by doing so.

To put it in today's perspective, think of someone buying their way out of trouble.

Another translation would be "A bribe is as a precious stone in the eyes of him that hath it; Whither soever it turneth, it prospereth."

In other words, officials are very often corrupt and take bribes

wow... I've been looking for a better explanation for long..

Thanks vicky , I really appreciate..

BRAH YOU NEED TO QUIT READING SATANIC BIBLES. SOME BIBLES HAVE BEEN TAMPERED WITH. KJV IIS THE ONLY GOOD BIBLE. IN THE KJV THE VERSE IS

PROVERBS 17 VS 8 A gift is as a precious stone in the eyes of him that hath it: whithersoever it turneth, it prospereth

obadiah777:

BRAH YOU NEED TO QUIT READING SATANIC BIBLES. SOME BIBLES HAVE BEEN TAMPERED WITH. KJV IIS THE ONLY GOOD BIBLE. IN THE KJV THE VERSE IS

PROVERBS 17 VS 8 A gift is as a precious stone in the eyes of him that hath it: whithersoever it turneth, it prospereth

@obadiah777

Brah, be wary of being a KJV-onlyist.

KJV too is no saint, as it has it's own fair share of errancies

Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK

moredendisc:

@obadiah777

Brah, be wary of being a KJV-onlyist.

KJV too is no saint, as it has it's own fair share of errancies

Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK

CHIEF, IF YOU KNEW THE STORY OF THE KJV YOU WOULD RETRACT YOUR STATEMENT. AND IF YOU COMPARE THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS WITH BIBLES, KJV IS THE MOST ACCURATE.

It simply means bribe is good and acceptable according to religion's sense

obadiah777:

CHIEF, IF YOU KNEW THE STORY OF THE KJV YOU WOULD RETRACT YOUR STATEMENT.

AND IF YOU COMPARE THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS WITH BIBLES, KJV IS THE MOST ACCURATE.

@obadiah777

I dey laugh OBJ style

Selective perception in action, hmm,

disregarding & shrugging off ". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK"

"KJV IS THE MOST ACCURATE" is not a license to ONLY use KJV.

There's a time and a place for everything, KJV is not exempted

moredendisc:

@obadiah777

I dey laugh OBJ style

Selective perception in action, hmm,

disregarding ". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK"

"KJV IS THE MOST ACCURATE" is not a license to ONLY use KJV.

There's a time and a place for everything, KJV is not exempted

DUNNO BOUT YOU CHIEF BUT MY DOUBLE EDGED SWORD HAS TO BE VERY SHARP. WHATS THE POINT IN GOING TO WAR WITH BLUNT KNIFE ? THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE ARE LIFE, THEY ARE LIKE A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD THAT PIERCES THE ASUNDER OF ANY ENEMY. THEY CUT THROUGH MARROW AND SOUL. SO WHY WOULD YOU WANT A BLUNT KNIFE ? CHIEF, THE KJV IS THE ONLY SHARP KNIFE OUT THERE. YOU CANT BE READING BOOTLEGGED BIBLES SMDH

obadiah777:

DUNNO BOUT YOU CHIEF BUT MY DOUBLE EDGED SWORD HAS TO BE VERY SHARP.
WHATS THE POINT IN GOING TO WAR WITH BLUNT KNIFE ? THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE ARE LIFE, THEY ARE LIKE A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD THAT PIERCES THE ASUNDER OF ANY ENEMY.
THEY CUT THROUGH MARROW AND SOUL. SO WHY WOULD YOU WANT A BLUNT KNIFE ?
CHIEF, THE KJV IS THE ONLY SHARP KNIFE OUT THERE. YOU CANT BE READING BOOTLEGGED BIBLES SMDH

@obadiah777

You err brah, if KJV is all you have in your kit, then you err profusely

No doubt KJV is one mama jama artillery, that carries itself well ONLY when on par

During the few odd moments when it isn't, then referencing other translations (e.g. NIV, ISV etc etc) is required when/where it is mistranslated and hence not producing the correct effect

The other translations are as legit as KJV, obviously the politics, theology, motives, allegiance etc etc differ

US Marines, are they armed with a weapon or weaponry?

moredendisc:

@obadiah777

You err brah, if KJV is all you have in your kit, then you err profusely

No doubt KJV is one mama jama artillery, that carries itself well ONLY when on par

During the few odd moments when it isn't, then referencing other translations (e.g. NIV, ISV etc etc) is required when/where it is mistranslated and hence not producing the correct effect

The other translations are as legit as KJV, obviously the politics, theology, motives, allegiance etc etc differ

US Marines, are they armed with a weapon or weaponry?

YOU DO ERR CHIEF MOREDENDISC. IN FACT CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.godlovespeople.com/bible/corrupt_versions.htm

obadiah777:

YOU DO ERR CHIEF MOREDENDISC. IN FACT CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.godlovespeople.com/bible/corrupt_versions.htm

IT IS YOU WHO DO ERR CHIEF obadiah777, if you are sticking ONLY with KJV

IN FACT CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/bible-errors.html

like a broken record ". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK"

The last word shall be yours

# Shame I couldn't locate my preferred referral link from my bookmarks

I appreciate your efforts @all...

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR CHIEF MOREDENDISC. IN FACT CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.godlovespeople.com/bible/corrupt_versions.htm

e be like sey na 'err' dey reign for dis thread.

moredendisc:

IT IS YOU WHO DO ERR CHIEF obadiah777, if you are sticking ONLY with KJV

IN FACT CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/bible-errors.html

like a broken record ". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8-9 times out of 10, it is OK"

The last word shall be yours

# Shame I couldn't locate my preferred referral link from my bookmarks

BRUV YOU POSTED A LINK THAT IS SUPPORTING MY STANCE SMDH WHY SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT ?

Ishilove:
e be like sey na 'err' dey reign for dis thread.

YOU DO ERR THINKING 'ERRING' IS REIGNING. WHAT IS REIGNING IS THE AUTHENTICITY OF OP'S BIBLE AND THE AUTHENTICITY OF MOREDENDISC'S OPINION

obadiah777:

BRUV YOU POSTED A LINK THAT IS SUPPORTING MY STANCE SMDH WHY SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT ?

obadiah777:

YOU DO ERR THINKING 'ERRING' IS REIGNING. WHAT IS REIGNING IS THE AUTHENTICITY OF OP'S BIBLE AND THE AUTHENTICITY OF MOREDENDISC'S OPINION

Oh yeah. You really think so

Anyway all am saying is, don't put all your eggs in one basket. . .

for the last time without again sounding like a broken record

". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8 to 9 times out of 10, it is OK"

Snips from http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/bible-errors.html

. . . The King James translators did a marvelous job with the materials they had.
While this article is necessary to point out the KJV text that is errorneous,
it should be noted that the errors, omissions and additions made by the RSV, NIV,
and other modern translations are much, much WORSE!

King James Bible Errors
The verse(s) in question are given first and then what is the correct or Correction.. . .

moredendisc:



Oh yeah. You really think so

Anyway all am saying is, don't put all your eggs in one basket. . .

for the last time without again sounding like a broken record

". . . KJV too is no saint, has it's own fair share of errancies. Given the time of day, KJV 8 to 9 times out of 10, it is OK"

Snips from http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/bible-errors.html

. . . The King James translators did a marvelous job with the materials they had.
While this article is necessary to point out the KJV text that is errorneous,
it should be noted that the errors, omissions and additions made by the RSV, NIV,
and other modern translations are much, much WORSE!

King James Bible Errors
The verse(s) in question are given first and then what is the correct or Correction.. . .

SO IF BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION THE KING JAMES IS THE MOST ACCURATE, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING, WHY DO YOU WANT TO CONSULT OTHER BIBLES WITH MUCH WORSE ERRORS AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT ? ITS LIKE HAVING AN A STUDENT IN FRONT OF YOU BUT YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO CONSULT WITH AN F STUDENT. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE BRAH ? WELL YOU CAN READ ANY BIBLE YOU WANT, AS FOR ME, I HAVE BEEN ON THAT JOURNEY OF PICKING OUT THE BEST AND MOST ACCURATE. WHEN I WAS A LIP-SERVICE CHRISTIAN I READ ALL KINDS OF CORRUPTED NIV AND OTHER VERSIONS. THEN I FINALLY GOT IN THE TRUTH AND BECAME A SERIOUS 'CHRISTIAN', AND SPEAKING TO LOTS OF PEOPLE AND DOING MY OWN RESEARCH, COME TO FIND OUT THE NEWER VERSIONS ARE MADE NEWER SO THAT THEY COULD CHANGE STUFF IN THEIR TO HIDE HISTORY. THE NEWER THE VERSION IS THE MORE CORRUPT IT IS. ITS PURPOSELY CORRUPTED TO HIDE THE TRUTH. THE ONLY UNCORRUPTED VERSION IS THE KJV. AND WHY THE CORRUPTION ? BECAUSE THE LAST EMPIRE ON EARTH, THE ROMAN EMPIRE IS TRYING TO DECEIVE THE WORLD INTO THINKING CIVILIZATION STARTED IN GREECE, CHRIST IS WHITE, THE JEWS ARE WHITE AND EVERYONE IN THE BIBLE IS WHITE. SO THEY HAVE PURPOSELY ALTERED EVERYTHING AS SUCH TO FIT THAT AGENDA. AND I REPEAT, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ON USING CORRUPTED BIBLE, BE MY GUEST, ME MYSELF ITS STRICTLY KJV. I WENT THROUGH A PHASE WHERE I CONSULTED OTHER BIBLES FOR EASIER EXPLANATION BECAUSE THE KJV ENGLISH WAS TOO OLD FOR ME. BUT AFTER A FEW WEEKS, I GOT USED TO THE ENGLISH. NOW I DONT EVEN CONSULT ANY OTHER TRANSLATIONS.

obadiah777:

SO IF BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION THE KING JAMES IS THE MOST ACCURATE, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING, WHY DO YOU WANT TO CONSULT OTHER BIBLES WITH MUCH WORSE ERRORS AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT ? ITS LIKE HAVING AN A STUDENT IN FRONT OF YOU BUT YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO CONSULT WITH AN F STUDENT. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE BRAH ? WELL YOU CAN READ ANY BIBLE YOU WANT, AS FOR ME, I HAVE BEEN ON THAT JOURNEY OF PICKING OUT THE BEST AND MOST ACCURATE. WHEN I WAS A LIP-SERVICE CHRISTIAN I READ ALL KINDS OF CORRUPTED NIV AND OTHER VERSIONS. THEN I FINALLY GOT IN THE TRUTH AND BECAME A SERIOUS 'CHRISTIAN', AND SPEAKING TO LOTS OF PEOPLE AND DOING MY OWN RESEARCH, COME TO FIND OUT THE NEWER VERSIONS ARE MADE NEWER SO THAT THEY COULD CHANGE STUFF IN THEIR TO HIDE HISTORY. THE NEWER THE VERSION IS THE MORE CORRUPT IT IS. ITS PURPOSELY CORRUPTED TO HIDE THE TRUTH. THE ONLY UNCORRUPTED VERSION IS THE KJV. AND WHY THE CORRUPTION ? BECAUSE THE LAST EMPIRE ON EARTH, THE ROMAN EMPIRE IS TRYING TO DECEIVE THE WORLD INTO THINKING CIVILIZATION STARTED IN GREECE, CHRIST IS WHITE, THE JEWS ARE WHITE AND EVERYONE IN THE BIBLE IS WHITE. SO THEY HAVE PURPOSELY ALTERED EVERYTHING AS SUCH TO FIT THAT AGENDA. AND I REPEAT, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ON USING CORRUPTED BIBLE, BE MY GUEST, ME MYSELF ITS STRICTLY KJV. I WENT THROUGH A PHASE WHERE I CONSULTED OTHER BIBLES FOR EASIER EXPLANATION BECAUSE THE KJV ENGLISH WAS TOO OLD FOR ME. BUT AFTER A FEW WEEKS, I GOT USED TO THE ENGLISH. NOW I DONT EVEN CONSULT ANY OTHER TRANSLATIONS.

@obadiah777

I know KJV has lesser minefields.

I am familiar with cesspool and know the dodgy/rogue translations out there

I was once a die-hard KJV onlyist, like you are too. Back in the day, I graduated from Basic English bible to KJV.

I don't find KJV difficult to understand.

It is the closest, no doubt, but still the fact must be aired that it does have errors and readers should be wary

All am saying is that, if you don't want suffer the fate of the proverbial lost hound, take heed to the handler's whistle.

It was a rude awakening and shock to me the first time I accidentally stumbled on a KJV bad translation and error

- bumped into another one or two, recently, not too far back.

I have learnt since then to ALWAYS do or perform parallel translations

and now do this, ALWAYS when in doubt of, not 100% certain of, want to confirm the authenticity of, or want to validate the particular KJV text and/or context

Though 9 times out of 10, you'll find me quoting or referencing KJV, it doesn't mean I am a 100% KJV maga or sucker

- Prior due diligence had been performed or carried out

I love Amplified version, is an extention of the King James

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR THINKING 'ERRING' IS REIGNING. WHAT IS REIGNING IS THE AUTHENTICITY OF OP'S BIBLE AND THE AUTHENTICITY OF MOREDENDISC'S OPINION

What does 'err' mean sef??

No vex, na night school I go. :-/

moredendisc:

@obadiah777

I know KJV has lesser minefields.

I am familiar with cesspool and know the dodgy/rogue translations out there

I was once a die-hard KJV onlyist, like you are too. Back in the day, I graduated from Basic English bible to KJV.

I don't find KJV difficult to understand.

It is the closest, no doubt, but still the fact must be aired that it does have errors and readers should be wary

All am saying is that, if you don't want suffer the fate of the proverbial lost hound, take heed to the handler's whistle.

It was a rude awakening and shock to me the first time I accidentally stumbled on a KJV bad translation and error

- bumped into another one or two, recently, not too far back.

I have learnt since then to ALWAYS do or perform parallel translations

and now do this, ALWAYS when in doubt of, not 100% certain of, want to confirm the authenticity of, or want to validate the particular KJV text and/or context

Though 9 times out of 10, you'll find me quoting or referencing KJV, it doesn't mean I am a 100% KJV maga or sucker

- Prior due diligence had been performed or carried out

OK LETS SEE HOW AUTHENTIC YOU ARE AS A PERSON. LETS SEE IF YOU ARE FULL OF SHYTTT OR NOT. LETS TEST YOUR VALIDITY. CAN YOU POINT OUT ONLY THREE KJV ERRORS THAT YOU SPEAK OFF ? IF YOU CANT POINT 3 OUT, I WILL TAKE YOU AS SOMEONE WHO JUST LIKES ARGUING FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE. OK LETS SEE YOUR VALIDITY

Ishilove:
What does 'err' mean sef??

No vex, na night school I go. :-/

YOU GOIN HAV TA AKS CHRIST FO DAT >>>>> MATTHEW 22 VS 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. <<<< THE LINGO OF THE MESSIAH. I AM JUST A PARROT

obadiah777: YOU GOIN HAV TA AKS CHRIST FO DAT >>>>> MATTHEW 22 VS 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. <<<< THE LINGO OF THE MESSIAH. I AM JUST A PARROT

No, it is actually the lingo of the bible translators. Christ didn't speak English, remember?

And FYI, you do err thinking I don't know what err means.

obadiah777:

OK LETS SEE HOW AUTHENTIC YOU ARE AS A PERSON. LETS SEE IF YOU ARE FULL OF SHYTTT OR NOT. LETS TEST YOUR VALIDITY.

CAN YOU POINT OUT ONLY THREE KJV ERRORS THAT YOU SPEAK OFF ? IF YOU CANT POINT 3 OUT, I WILL TAKE YOU AS SOMEONE WHO JUST LIKES ARGUING FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE. OK LETS SEE YOUR VALIDITY

@obadiah777

This has nothing to do with arguments or me . . .

I was advising you not to solely rely or depend only on KJV (i.e. but to also do a parallel translations of all other available bibles at the same time too)

and here you are sneakily fishing for evidence(s) and also playing the argument card SMH

What is stopping you carrying out a reasonable personal research?

Are you too high on SHYTTT something, to think straight or just plain stuck on stupid - no offense intended

# PS: I wasn't going to oblige your requests but just had an after thought.

OK here are a few subtle mistranslations

1) I Chronicles 5:26
2) Matthew 27:44 - Refer to https://www.nairaland.com/1165567/reasons-why-christians-falling-false/3#13921686
3) John 20:17

# KJV couldn't make up its mind, as it translated the word "Sheol" as "grave" 31 times and also as "hell" 31 times.

KJV, what is Sheol? Is it the grave or hell? - Refer to https://www.nairaland.com/1165567/reasons-why-christians-falling-false/3#13908025

@ obadiah777,

Since you dont understand SIMPLE advice given by moredendisc, let me start to TROUBLESHOOT your KJV ONLY mind with these errors from KJV. I was also a KJV ONLY in the past. Now, dont get me wrong, I still love KJV more than any other translations and it still remain my first priority anytime but I'm no more a KJV ONLY. Some other translations esp my new found EXPANDED BIBLE, by the KJV and NKJV translator Team. The Expanded bible retains the KJV beauty while it incorporate the modern English and the originality of the KJV translation.

Now, Obadiah777, pls quote Luke 6:16 and Acts 1:13 from the KJV and let's how you answer the questions I'll ask therein.

Ishilove:
No, it is actually the lingo of the bible translators. Christ didn't speak English, remember?

And FYI, you do err thinking I don't know what err means.

YOU ARE VERY CORRECT. I DID ERR IT IS THE LINGO OF THE BIBLE TRANSLATORS.

moredendisc:

@obadiah777

This has nothing to do with arguments or me . . .

I was advising you not to solely rely or depend only on KJV (i.e. but to also do a parallel translations of all other available bibles at the same time too)

and here you are sneakily fishing for evidence(s) and also playing the argument card SMH

What is stopping you carrying out a reasonable personal research?

Are you too high on SHYTTT something, to think straight or just plain stuck on stupid - no offense intended

# PS: I wasn't going to oblige your requests but just had an after thought.

OK here are a few subtle mistranslations

1) I Chronicles 5:26
2) Matthew 27:44 - Refer to https://www.nairaland.com/1165567/reasons-why-christians-falling-false/3#13921686
3) John 20:17

# KJV couldn't make up its mind, as it translated the word "Sheol" as "grave" 31 times and also as "hell" 31 times.

KJV, what is Sheol? Is it the grave or hell? - Refer to https://www.nairaland.com/1165567/reasons-why-christians-falling-false/3#13908025

SEE YOU ARE WHAT IS CALLED A GAINSAYER. YOU HAVE PHARISEE TENDENCIES. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS CALLED 'SPLITTING HAIRS'. MOREDENDISC WHY ARE YOU SPLITTING HAIRS ? WHY ARE YOU ARGUING JUST TO ARGUE ? THOSE VERSES YOU QUOTED ARE AS ACCURATE AS CAN BE. AS FOR SHEOL AND GRAVE AND HELL ? THEY ALL MEAN THE SAME THING. THEY ARE USED INTERCHANGEABLY.

AND HERE I WAS EXPECTING YOU TO PULL OUT SOME MAJOR ERRORS SUCH AS THE CHANGING OF A WHOLE VERSE TO MEAN SOMETHING ELSE. FOR EXAMPLE

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin is hot as an oven, feverish from hunger <<<< NIV INTERPRETATION. NOW NOTICE HOW THEY TRIED TO REMOVE THE COLOR OF THE SKIN AND THEY CHANGED THE WHOLE MEANING OF THE VERSE. NOW THOSE TWO VERSES MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS. THESE ARE THE KIND OF ERRORS I AM EXPECTING YOU TO POINT OUT. SERIOUS ALTERATION OF VERSES. AND HERE YOU ARE POINTING OUT WHY SHEOL IS USED IN PLACE OF HELL IN PLACE OF THE GRAVE. THOSE ARE NOT ERRORS. THOSE WORDS MEAN THE SAME THING. YOU DO ERR MAKING THIS WHOLE HULLABALOO ABOUT NOTHING. MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. YOU DO ERR MOREDENDISC

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR. NOTICE HOW THE NEWER VERSION IS ALTERED TO REMOVE THE COLOR OF THE JEWS

KJV >>> JEREMIAH 14 VS 2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up

NIV >>>> JEREMIAH 14 VS 2 Judah mourns, her cities languish; they wail for the land, and a cry goes up from Jerusalem

NOTICE BOARD : GATES MEANS ELDERS. THE GATES TO THE CITY ARE THE ELDERS. ITS NOT TALKING ABOUT A PHYSICAL GATE IN THAT VERSE.