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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:25pm On Jan 12, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


"When you give, you become an ally of the original Giver." wink

Another refreshing insight into the subject of tithes and offerings. smiley

Abram's Obedience Test
January 12, 2017

"And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. . . . And he gave him tithes of all" (Genesis 14:18, 20)

This is one of the more curious passages of the Old Testament. Abram had rescued his nephew Lot, along with the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, after a fierce running battle with a five-king federation led by Chedorlaomer, the king of Elam (Genesis 14:1-17).

As Abram returned victorious from the battle, he was met by Melchizedek, the king of Salem, who seems either to represent or actually be the pre-incarnate Person of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 7:1-3). Melchizedek greeted Abram with words of victory and praise, to which Abram responded with a no-nonsense declaration of his service to the "most high God" (Genesis 14:22-24).

The king of Sodom offered to let Abram take the spoils of war. The custom was (and is) well established that the victor was due all the value of the conquered land. Abram's response was most gracious. Not only would he take nothing for himself other than what was due his servants and confederates, but he would return everything outside of the tithe to the original owners. "Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils" (Hebrews 7:4).

It is here that tithing is established in Scripture, long before the Mosaic law. The event is so incidental that it seems the custom had already been in practice for some time. Whatever the case, Abram offers "tithes of all" to Melchizedek without a second thought. Centuries later, the Lord Jesus told the Pharisees that they ought to pay their tithes "and not to leave the [weightier matters] undone" (Matthew 23:23). It is interesting how much the tithing practice is still debated among God's children. HMM III

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:01pm On Mar 06, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Another refreshing insight into the subject of tithes and offerings. smiley


The Unmuzzled Ox
March 5, 2017

"Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn" (Deuteronomy 25:4)

This Mosaic regulation would seem rather insignificant except that it is quoted twice in the New Testament. "For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?" (1 Corinthians 9:9-10). Yes, but that is not the main purpose behind this law. "Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope." This application is drawn in verse 14: "Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel." That is, supporting financially those who devote full time to God's work is not "charitable giving" but compensation for services, with the pay to be provided by those who receive the benefit of their labours.

This is even more clear in the second reference: "Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward" (1 Timothy 5:17-18), the latter part quoting words of Christ (Luke 10:7). Incidentally, note that both New Testament and Old Testament Scriptures are considered divinely inspired and authoritative on any subject with which they deal.

The subject here is just compensation for those who devote their time, training, and abilities to the work of the Word, under the call and leading of God, as recognised by the people of God. This seemingly insignificant principle, if faithfully obeyed, would greatly enlarge the effectiveness and outreach of the Christian witness in the world. HMM

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:19pm On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:59pm On Mar 30, 2017
Daily Manna
MONDAY, MARCH 27, 2017

GOD'S SANCTUARY AMONG MEN

TEXT: EXODUS 25:1-22

"And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel" (Exodus 25:2).

God still seeks to dwell among men. He still craves to continue His fellowship with us just as He did in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. He has a burning desire to have a continuous relationship with man the crown of His creation; hence, the call to the nation of Israel to build a tabernacle unto Him where He would dwell among them.

God instructed Moses on the mountain to prepare for the making of a tabernacle wherein He might dwell with man. He had to invite offerings of various kinds (metals, skins, fabric, oil and spices) from willing minds to contribute towards an abode for Him. In the New Testament, God through the Son came down to dwell among men "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us…" (John 1:14). We are built together for God’s habitation (Ephesians 2:22).

As God required the children of Israel to give the best of their golds and other materials for a befitting tabernacle for Him to dwell among them, He requires our hearts for Him to dwell today. The value of our gifts indicates the measurement of how much we value God. The Lord is therefore calling on us today to build a tabernacle unto Him. We are to first build a tabernacle of our hearts unto Him by yielding the totality of ourselves. Second, we are to build a physical edifice that befits the name of our God by personally putting down gifts in form of money or materials for God’s work in the church.

As the children of Israel responded to the call of God, we must be prompt in our response to His call. We must stir up our hearts and make frantic efforts to make our spirit willing. It is only the willing spirit who can offer acceptable service unto God. God puts no value on things we offer to Him without cheerfulness and absolute surrender.

Bible Reading in one Year: JOEL 1-3

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Thought for the day: As you give your best unto the Lord, He will give His best unto you

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'We are to first build a tabernacle of our hearts unto Him by yielding the totality of ourselves. Second, we are to build a physical edifice that befits the name of our God by personally putting down gifts in form of money or materials for God’s work in the church.'
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:08pm On May 23, 2017
Communicate Well
May 23, 2017

"Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction" (Philippians 4:14).

"Communicate" is one of the older words from the era of the King James Version that takes some re-connecting in order to clarify the term. Our use today normally means speaking, understanding one another, or simply passing on instructions. The Greek word is sugkoinoneo, a compound of the preposition "with" and the primary word for "participation."

The basic term is often translated "partner" or "partake" and frequently is connected with the act of sharing finances in the ministry of others. That is the application in the context of today's verse. Paul commends the Philippian church for partnering with him over his journeys and recognizing time and again the needs that were necessary to fulfill for the success of the ministry.

Today, there are a vast array of charity-based organizations, from large hospitals and universities to local food and clothing distribution efforts. Most of those, by the way, were started by Christian groups as a way to "communicate" to the "affliction" of many. But how do we determine who among the many, or at what ratio, to attempt to distribute "to the necessity of saints?" (Romans 12:13).

Two main principles must guide our "communication" in the Kingdom. First, it is clear that our New Testament responsibility is first to the church in which our Lord has placed us. Some disagree, but "storehouse" tithing appears to claim our first priority. Then there is opportunity to follow the specific leading of God among those ministries with which we are familiar and of whom we are confident that first seek the Kingdom of God (Matthew 6:33). HMM III

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Storehouse tithing. wink
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:38pm On Jun 02, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Storehouse tithing. wink

Daily Manna
FRIDAY, JUNE 2, 2017

MATCHLESS WISDOM!

TEXT: MARK 12:13-17

"And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at Him" (Mark 12:17).

In addition to the revered divinity of our Lord, Jesus Christ, which floored His detractors, He also displayed matchless wisdom that constantly confounded the sophistry of the philosophers – teachers of His time. He was not schooled in their teachings but He defeated them at their own game. Today's study is an apt demonstration of the Lord's superiority when it comes to winning an urgent design to trap Him.

Jesus Christ had been confronted by some Pharisees and some Herodians who came to ask him mischievously whether it was right for them to pay taxes to Caesar the Roman Emperor or not. Jesus wisely and carefully avoided being dragged into the prevailing controversial political issue of the time. He avoided their snare.

As Christians, we should avoid being ensnared by being dragged into the murky waters of politics. Believers should avoid political arguments or canvassing for political parties or politicians. They should avoid praising or condemning the worldly political order. Rather, believers should pray always for those in authority. As Jesus said, we should give Caesar what belongs to Caesar such as payment of our taxes, obtainment of licences, permits and payment of other legitimate dues without default. Similarly, we should give God what belongs to God such as our tithes and offerings, our time, talents and indeed our all.

Do not succumb to trivial political debates. It avails nothing. Neither should a Christian pilgrim get involved in insulting and criticising dignitaries. Instead, we should always lift up state officials in prayers, asking God to guide them aright in their responsibilities. The task of preaching the gospel and building the Kingdom of God is so arduous that there is little or no time for idle talks or political muckraking.

Bible Reading in one Year: JOHN 6-7

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Thought for the day: He keeps in perfect peace whose mind is stayed upon Him

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:08am On Jul 03, 2017
Not Giving, but Sowing
December 4, 2013

"But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully, shall reap also bountifully" (2 Corinthians 9:6)

As John Calvin pointed out long ago in expounding this key passage, "We are not giving, but sowing" when we contribute of our financial means to the work of the Lord, for it miraculously is considered by the Lord of the harvest as seed sown in the soil of the hearts of men.

And it is a rule of the harvest that, other things being equal, the more seed planted, the more harvested. He who is deficient with his seed must necessarily anticipate a meagre crop.

Of course, a bountiful harvest presupposes not only an abundance of seed, but also good soil, properly prepared, watered, and cultivated. It is no good simply to give money to anyone or any cause, any more than it is good simply to throw a seed on a rocky slope or city street or weed-infested yard. One is responsible to give where God's Word is honoured—not just to give, but to give responsibly.

Furthermore, even though an abundant harvest is promised, the motive in giving is also vital. The harvest is souls—not gold! "God loveth a cheerful giver"—not a conditional giver (v. 7). "He that giveth, let him do it with simplicity" (Romans 12:8.). Often God does bring financial blessing to a Christian who has proved faithful in the grace of giving, but this is so he can give still more and thus lay up still more treasure in heaven. "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required" (Luke 12:48). "Therefore," as Paul said, ". . . see that ye abound in this grace also" (2 Corinthians 8:7).

And as we give, we must never forget that Christ has given more: "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor" (2 Corinthians 8:9). HMM

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:27am On Aug 15, 2017
Daily Manna
TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 2017

REWARD FOR SERVICE

TEXT: NUMBERS 18:8-19

"This shall be thine of the most holy things, reserved from the fire: every oblation of theirs, every meat offering of theirs, and every sin offering of theirs, and every trespass offering of theirs, which they shall render unto me, shall be most holy for thee and for thy sons" (Numbers 18:9).

Martin Luther said "If we consider the greatness and the glory of the life we shall have when we have risen from the dead, it would not be difficult at all for us to bear the concerns of this world. If I believe the Word, I shall on the last day, after the sentence has been pronounced, not only gladly have suffered ordinary temptations, insults, and imprisonment, but I shall also say, O, that I did not throw myself under the feet of all the godless for the sake of the great glory which I now see revealed and which has come to me through the merit of Christ!"

God commanded the Israelites to bring their tithes and offerings to the tabernacle. These tithes and offerings were for the consumption of the priests. However, in this passage, God instructed the priests to give part of whatever they received back to the temple for the use of the High Priest. God wanted the priests themselves to give out of what they had been given. God took all these steps to ensure that adequate provision was made for the care and sustenance of the priesthood in general and the High Priest in particular.

The principle of giving in Bible days is still applicable today. You are to give your best to the Lord and for His work. The leadership of the church must also give of what has been given for the development of the work of the Lord. God blessed you so that you may be able to give for the furtherance of His work and the care of His Body. The local church too must give for ministry. Just like the priesthood in the Old Testament, it is through our faithful giving that the mission work is sustained and physical developments come to our churches. This is part of God's plan to reward His servants. The beauty of it all is that on the final payday, the Lord will give rewards to all His children who obeyed His instructions to give. And God's rewards will be far better in comparison to the little seeds you are sowing today.

Bible Reading in one Year: JEREMIAH 31-32

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Thought for the day: Givers will not lack in time and eternity.

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Reward for service. smiley
Re: Tithes And Offerings by BlueAngel444: 12:55pm On Aug 15, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Reward for service. smiley

Jess and the Apostles did not teach tithing

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:15am On Aug 22, 2017
Higher Everyday
SUNDAY, AUGUST 20, 2017

TITHING FUTURE INCOME
TEXT: GENESIS 28:22

"And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee" (Genesis 28:22).

Meet the fugitive on the run. He had left home and faced an uncertain future. He had no job and no income. Then he had an amazing encounter with Divinity. He had a dream in which God promised him that the future would be bright. Then he vowed to serve the Lord Jehovah, dedicated a place of worship and paid his tithe! This fugitive, for all his faults, at least got something right. He grasped the principle of giving and that is; put God first. Solomon eventually articulated it well in his book of wisdom. "Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine" (Proverbs 3:9, 10).

You are a dependent youth today. You have no job and no income. But you have had an encounter with God. You are a child of God. Believe the promises of God about a better future. And when the blessings start overflowing, remember to put God first. Be ready to give your tithe.

• Challenge: "Learn the principle of giving."

• Prayer: "I will surely give the tenth to thee, Lord."

• Quote: "Put God first."

• Further reading: Malachi 3:8-10

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:16am On Aug 22, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Jess and the Apostles did not teach tithing

Are you sure?
Re: Tithes And Offerings by BlueAngel444: 1:20am On Aug 27, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Are you sure?

Yes, absolutely sure that Jesus and His apostles did not teach tithing
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:49pm On Aug 28, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Yes, absolutely sure that Jesus and His apostles did not teach tithing

Don't be so sure because I got evidence to the contrary undecided
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:13pm On Sep 12, 2017
Prove God in tithing

Higher Everyday
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2017

PROVE GOD IN TITHING
TEXT: MALACHI 3:10

"Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing" (Malachi 3:10).

A tithe is 10% of your income. God demands our tithes for the administration of the church and propagation of the gospel. A lady testified to how the company she was working for closed down. The director called her and said that their operations in Cameroon were not going as planned so they would have to pay them off. When she was paid off, the first thing she did was to set aside the tithe before thinking of what to do. A few weeks later, the same director called her back. He said that although they were leaving the country, they would still maintain a presence in Cameroon. They laid off other staff but kept her to take charge of the office.

God's command on tithing is for all to obey irrespective of our status. If we are to enjoy the blessings of God in our lives as youth we too must obey in tithing, no matter how little it is. The Bible says, "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much" Tithe is an expression of faith toward God. Prove God and you will be blessed in your finances and other areas.

• Challenge: "Obedience brings a blessing."

• Prayer: "Lord, give me the grace to tithe."

• Quote: "Tithe is an expression of faith toward God."

• Bible Reading in one Year: Deuteronomy 28:1-3

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 1:08pm On Sep 18, 2017
Why didn't Jesus tithe? Not because He was disobeying His Father, the truth is nothing good came out of tithing.
Abraham tithed from the spoils of war "Once" {Genesis 14}
The Levites were ripping of God {Malachi 3}
And the pharisees greed devoured widows {Matthew 23}
This is the many reasons why Jesus didn't tithe, because nothing good came out of tithing..
Tithing is nothing to be proud off-it isn't a law-and God never gave us a command to tithe-Jesus didn't tithe because God didn't tell Him to tithe. "Tithers would argue tithes are taxes, taxes is the law-and a tax is not a tithe giving to a Church.
Tithing causes deputes, arguments, evil suspicion, envy strife, it causes men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is their means to financial gain. Jesus said: from such withdraw yourselves. {1 Timothy 6:3-5}
Today's preachers collect tithes from criminals, The Church ripping of God. And the TV preaches are devouring widows.
We have heard TV preachers say something on these lines, "They had a vision-and they can see-there are widows out there that needs to be blessed, just send in a $1000 and the Lord will bless you with these needs.
This is our daily Church of men and women the bible warns us about, men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is the means of tithing financial gain.
BlueAngel444:


Yes, absolutely sure that Jesus and His apostles did not teach tithing
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 3:22pm On Sep 18, 2017
cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 3:23pm On Sep 18, 2017
I had tested God about tithing, only because it was never on my heart to tithe-it made no sense, God calls us freely to give us life, and the Church demands 10%.
I have heard people say to me, God told them to tithe-Well He never told me to tithe, matter of fact God told me the opposite, after I cried out to God, praying, the Spirit of the Lord gave me this verse {Matthew 6:26} Look at the birds of the air, they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor put into barns, and yet the Lord feeds them, how much more valuable are you.
The birds neither sow a tithe, and we are more valuable then they-so why should we, the birds never reaped tithes, again we are more valuable then birds, the birds don't put into barns, neither are we to put into barns, and yet God feeds both birds and people for the same reasons.
As you can see I don't tithe, and God never told me to tithe-I am equally blessed just as much as the next person, I give just as good as anybody else.
If God told people to tithe-then why has tithing got such a bad name to it, why didn't Abraham continual to tithe, why did the Levites feel they had to rip of God in tithes, and why did the Pharisees devour widows to tithe.
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:36am On Sep 20, 2017
brocab:


I had tested God about tithing, only because it was never on my heart to tithe-it made no sense, God calls us freely to give us life, and the Church demands 10%.
I have heard people say to me, God told them to tithe-Well He never told me to tithe, matter of fact God told me the opposite, after I cried out to God, praying, the Spirit of the Lord gave me this verse {Matthew 6:26} Look at the birds of the air, they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor put into barns, and yet the Lord feeds them, how much more valuable are you.
The birds neither sow a tithe, and we are more valuable then they-so why should we, the birds never reaped tithes, again we are more valuable then birds, the birds don't put into barns, neither are we to put into barns, and yet God feeds both birds and people for the same reasons.
As you can see I don't tithe, and God never told me to tithe-I am equally blessed just as much as the next person, I give just as good as anybody else.
If God told people to tithe-then why has tithing got such a bad name to it, why didn't Abraham continual to tithe, why did the Levites feel they had to rip of God in tithes, and why did the Pharisees devour widows to tithe.

God told you not to tithe? undecided
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 12:53am On Sep 20, 2017
Are you expecting me to add to another lie, you believe all Christians should tithe?
All are you ready for the truth-God didn't tell Jesus to tithe, so why would God tell you to tithe.
OLAADEGBU:


God told you not to tithe? undecided
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:00am On Sep 20, 2017
brocab:


Are you expecting me to add to another lie, you believe all Christians should tithe?
All are you ready for the truth-God didn't tell Jesus to tithe, so why would God tell you to tithe.

You have not answered my question. cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 9:11am On Sep 20, 2017
I did answer it as clear as I could-Now I will ask the same question did God tell you to tithe?
OLAADEGBU:


You have not answered my question. cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 9:30am On Sep 20, 2017
As I have mentioned before hand, my prayer to the Lord was about tithing, and yes God told me in Word not to tithe-if God wanted me to tithe, God would have given me a scripture telling me to tithe, but God didn't 'He gave me the opposite-birds don't sow nor reap nor put into barns-and yet the Lord feeds them-how much more am I. This verse is not telling me to tithe..
I just find it strange why people believe God told them to tithe, everybody knows tithing became a problem from the start-Abraham tithed once from the spoils of war, the Levites were ripping of God, and the Pharisees devoured widows to pay more..
Why would God tell people to tithe when all it did was caused heaps of problems.
OLAADEGBU:


God told you not to tithe? undecided
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:00pm On Sep 20, 2017
brocab:


I did answer it as clear as I could-Now I will ask the same question did God tell you to tithe?

Yes, and I have scriptural backings to buttress my point.

Genesis 14:18-20 Melchisedec was a representative of our Lord Jesus Christ who Abraham gave his tithes to. What Abraham did to Melchisedec is what faithful children of Abraham are doing to Jesus Christ.

In Genesis 28:20-22 we see Jacob vow to pay his tithe to God if God protected and provided for him. Are you accusing Jacob that he did not pay his vow?

In Matthew 23:23 Jesus did not cancel Tithes and offering.

God promised in Malachi 3:8-10 to bless us if we tithe. It is not compulsory for you to go in that route. A straight line is the shortest distance between two points. The longest route is also an option that you might take. Obedience is the shortest route that I have chosen to take. The choice is yours. cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:25pm On Sep 20, 2017
brocab:


Are you expecting me to add to another lie, you believe all Christians should tithe?
All are you ready for the truth-God didn't tell Jesus to tithe, so why would God tell you to tithe.

Who did Melchisedec pay his tithes to? undecided
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 6:21am On Sep 21, 2017
{Genesis 28:20-22} There isn't any record to say Jacob actually tithed, we have all made our vows to God promising something in our lives and haven't kept them, many of us have walked away from God?
{Genesis 14:18-20} There isn't any proof Melchisedec was a representative Jesus, plus we all know it was a pagan Arab custom to tithe, and Abraham said: he did not want King Soldom to boast for making him rich, {And in our day's the pastors boast how they are rich} Abraham tithed from the spoils of war, everything that didn't belong to him, but there's no record of him tithing everything that did belong to him, after that.
Faithful children of Abraham you say-so do I tithe the way Abraham tithed, since none of the goods belonged to him, so do I go to war and fight the battle, and tithe his way? Would this make me more faithful like you? All maybe if I was to tithe with my own spoils of war, would I be a blesser person than Abraham was towards God..
{I had spoken to many tithers over the years, and this is what many of them believe, tithers a more blessed, then a non tither}
But Jesus said: we are all equally blessed.{Romans 2:11} For God does not show favouritism.
And there's no-record of anybody paying Jesus a tithe, nor is there any record God told Jesus to tithe, and if Jesus was Melchisedec back then, as you believe he is, then one would think, Jesus would have kept up His good works to collect more tithes, and gave it out to the people-just as God wanted the Livites to do, instead they preferred to rip Him off in tithes and offerings...
{Matthew 23:23} Do tithers actually read this verse, there's no where written that Jesus said we must keep the tithing laws still.
If we were to study the bible, {Matthew 23} Jesus wasn't pleased about anything the Pharisees done, so verse 23 wouldn't have made a difference to Jesus anyway, the Pharisees weren't collecting tithes of mint cummin and anise, the Pharisees were devouring widows houses and with their long prayers, they expected the two mites story to be put into the treasury.
"{This is why tithers tithe they believe they are blessed each week after they pay God their weekly 10% wage?}
Tithers know the Jews don't pay tithes, If the Church paid more attention on the Word of God, then they would take note what is going on around this planet, they will put their money in the best places, people wouldn't be dying of starvation, and where else it is needed.
If Jesus wanted us to tithe money-He Himself would have made a point of it, but instead He spoke more against it.
I am so glad I have made my choice-my decision is don't do anything, Jesus wouldn't do.
Did God tell you to tithe when you ask Him, or are you just guessing He may of told you in word.
OLAADEGBU:


Yes, and I have scriptural backings to buttress my point.

Genesis 14:18-20 Melchisedec was a representative of our Lord Jesus Christ who Abraham gave his tithes to. What Abraham did to Melchisedec is what faithful children of Abraham are doing to Jesus Christ.

In Genesis 28:20-22 we see Jacob vow to pay his tithe to God if God protected and provided for him. Are you accusing Jacob that he did not pay his vow?

In Matthew 23:23 Jesus did not cancel Tithes and offering.

God promised in Malachi 3:8-10 to bless us if we tithe. It is not compulsory for you to go in that route. A straight line is the shortest distance between two points. The longest route is also an option that you might take. Obedience is the shortest route that I have chosen to take. The choice is yours. cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 3:09am On Sep 22, 2017
If you are going to bring in the armor, at least bring it with some truth.
Is {Malachi 3:8-10} the bible way of explaining, You tithe because God's blessing you with rain, so your herds and your crops a flourishing every year?
Or is {Malachi 3:8-10} the tithers way of explaining, you tithe because God's blessing you with money, so your mansions and your bank accounts are flourishing every year.
Obedience only comes to the people when they choose it rightly.
OLAADEGBU:


Yes, and I have scriptural backings to buttress my point.

Genesis 14:18-20 Melchisedec was a representative of our Lord Jesus Christ who Abraham gave his tithes to. What Abraham did to Melchisedec is what faithful children of Abraham are doing to Jesus Christ.

In Genesis 28:20-22 we see Jacob vow to pay his tithe to God if God protected and provided for him. Are you accusing Jacob that he did not pay his vow?

In Matthew 23:23 Jesus did not cancel Tithes and offering.

God promised in Malachi 3:8-10 to bless us if we tithe. It is not compulsory for you to go in that route. A straight line is the shortest distance between two points. The longest route is also an option that you might take. Obedience is the shortest route that I have chosen to take. The choice is yours. cool
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:31am On Oct 05, 2017
Higher Everyday
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2017

COMMON ACTS THAT COUNT
TEXT: LUKE 21:4

"For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had" (Luke 21:4)

Some acts may appear common and inconsequential before men yet invaluable in the sight of God. While humans applaud those who make high value contributions to the work of God in kind and/or in cash, God evaluates our contributions by our motives. Thus, the widow in today's text was adjudged the greatest giver although her contribution might be the smallest in relative value.

Everybody can contribute to making God and men happy. Eleanor Roosevelt counsels that, "When you cease to make a contribution, you begin to die." Beyond material contributions to God's work, little acts of kindness that may not cost much might result in salvation of sinners or restoration of backsliders.

Secret prayer and intercession for the lost are considered high-value in the presence of God. This is the wisest means to "lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven" (Matthew 6:20).

• Challenge: "Sow corruptible seed on earth and reap incorruptible fruit in heaven"

• Prayer: "Help me, Lord, to labour for that meat which endures unto everlasting life"

• Quote: "Little acts of kindness - might result in salvation of sinners"

• Bible Reading in one Year: 2 Samuel 23:13-17; 1 Kings 17:1-16

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 9:36am On Oct 07, 2017
Nigeria Christians this is a video you all should watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPjBzau_W8
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 7:02am On Oct 16, 2017
{2 Corinthians 11:7-9} Paul wrote and said: Did I commit sin in humbling myself that you might be exalted, because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge?
I robbed other churches taking wages from them to minister to you.
And when I am present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no-one, for what I lacked the brethren who come from Macedonia supplied.
And in everything I kept myself from being burdensome to you.
Even the apostle Paul is against pastors taking wages to minister to you, If we were to preach the gospel, lets do it free of charge, like Paul did, and all the other apostles who preach the gospel of Christ freely.
Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 10:24pm On Oct 16, 2017
I was listening to Jimmy Swaggart with his son last night, he preaches against prosperity pimps, and than turns around asking for $5000 from everyone to invest in books getting one free of charge 'his say, how we should connect to God, plus Jimmy Swaggart had written a study bible, selling each $1000.
It just shows how these Prosperity preachers work across the globe, the Televisions are flooded with idea's to gain a financial wage. Jesus said: get out of My Fathers house, this is a house of prayer. It doesn't matter how the truth sounds, there will always be someone out there that disobey's the Word of God and chooses to rip off millions. "And you that tithe, walk away, Jesus had told you to walk away.{1 Timothy 6:3-5}
Of cause no-one seems to mention the bible, there's no price given on that, if people read the bible more, instead of relying on other books, they will know there is only one way into the kingdom of God..
Prosperity pimps are everywhere, either they preach the tithing sermon or they are selling books C/D's DVD's-giving us false literature how we should understand, how they think how we should reach out to God without reading the bible.
Most of these books are written by pastors-who now believe Jesus is not the only way into Heaven, pastors that believe homosexual marriage is the right thing to vote for, pastors believe taking the mark of the beast is God's call.
One of the many books sold in Christian book stores around the globe is called The Wicca, by Gerald Gardener, this book holds pagan beliefs of witchcraft, and many have falling for it, the "Shack" by William P Young, is another best seller in stores across the globe, these men haven't the slightest idea who God is, but without a care Christian book stores are allowing these prosperity preachers sell these books that's leading thousands of believers away from the truth.
{2 Thessalonians 2:9-12} The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusions, that they should believe the lie, that they all maybe condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Prosperity is knocking on our doors, Christians are more focus on pleasures of unrighteousness, then they are focused on their bibles that is safely hidden in the closet.
Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:56pm On Oct 19, 2017
Daily Manna
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2017

WHOLEHEARTED GIVING

TEXT: DEUTERONOMY 14:22-29

"Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year" (Deuteronomy 14:22).

"If you want only net blessings, pay on the net. If you want gross blessings, by all means, pay on the gross," Steve Stewart wrote in his article: Yes, God's Word Is Clear. "When we consider giving a tenth of our net [income] versus our gross [income], we are really asking, 'How much can I give without giving too much?' This kind of nonverbal response is rooted in selfish nature that resists God's request that we help build his kingdom by giving to our local church."

Our text reveals one of the Old Testament concepts that was sustained by the new covenant in Christ. And so, the misconceptions surrounding its veracity are totally unnecessary. Tithing required that the Israelites give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised, to the temple. The law also required multiple tithes which included one each for the Levites, the use of the temple and the feasts, and the poor of the land.

Our text also points to a set of categories which must needs be affected by our piety: the Levites (full or part-time ministers in the house of the Lord); the strangers (within and without the Church); as well as the destitute. These all make up the family of God, and should be treated as such. The destination of our tithe, it must be noted, is clearly elucidated in our text to be where "…the Lord thy God shall choose to set His name there."

In our dispensation, the local Church where we receive spiritual nourishment should be deemed appropriate to receive the tithe. Tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and reverent attitude of worship to the Lord for His innumerable mercies. You must make up your mind to obey God always. Do not give reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves and cherishes a cheerful giver. As you do so, you relive Christ's sacrificial life here on earth till He comes.

Bible Reading in one Year: 2 KINGS 16-17

Thought for the day: Gross Kingdom investments never yield net dividends.

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Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 12:11am On Oct 20, 2017
A cheerful giver doesn't mean it belongs to your pastor, when the pastor feels he needs to stand up every week from the pulpit asking the Church for tithes, it proves "TITHES DOES NOT BELONG TO YOUR PASTOR.. "TITHES BELONG TO THE POOR. It shows your pastor is unstable, and it proves there's no trust between your pastor, you and his Church.
These days we understand the Church stands fern psychically, but mentally-its foundations are unreliable, untrusted unstable, men begging like animals, this must satisfy their souls, "Will I rob God.
Jesus said: we are to be a cheerful giver, and I am...the Lord blesses me, as I give, a percentage doesn't even enter my mind, meaning stop relying on your pastor to give as little as 10% for you.
{Luke 14:14} Jesus said: give to those who can't pay you back, "As proven Pastors collect tithes for their personal financial gain, spending tithes on their own pleasures "buying fancy Cars, Mega Churches and homes, living the life style of the rich and the famous, while in Africa the poor stays poor, living the tithing lie-in ruins waiting to die in hunger..
{Matthew 25:35-40} Jesus said: For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, I was sick and you visited Me, I was in prison and you came to Me.
Then the righteous will answer Him saying, "Lord" when did we see You hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give You drink, when did we see You a stranger and take You in, and clothed You, or when did we see You sick, or in prison to come to You?
And the King will answer and say to them, "Assuredly" I say to you, inasmuch as you did it too one of the least, you did to Me.'
Naira say's I paid my tithes, and I am a stranger and no-one took me in, I paid my tithes, I am hungry and no-one gave me food, I paid my tithes, I am thirsty and no-one gave me drink, I paid my tithes, now I am sick and no-one visited me, I paid my tithes, I was in prison and no-one came to me, then my pastor said to me, be warm my son, God is with you, and sent me away empty handed.
'And the Church of Naira say's, Blessed are the poor, who didn't receive. "Amen.

To be honest, if the Church ran the course the way Jesus wanted it to run, and if the Church read their bibles more often, all Christians would be equally the same as the other.
We have all been through the mill, preaching tithing is preaching another doctrine, between us Christians' one would think, we are all reading the same scriptures from the same bible?
But this isn't the case, many Christians don't read, most rely on their pastors, others pick and choose, this just shows the Spirit of the Lord, is not in every man, woman and child, who claim to be saved.
{Matthew 22:21} Jesus said: give to Caesar, what belongs to Caesar, and give to God, what belongs to God.
Caesar's inscription is on the coin, and God's inscription, is His Word.
The day the Lord called me into His kingdom, I just knew it was my time to be called by the Lord free of charge.
Being touched by the Lord is a incredible feeling, I felt my insides had instantly changed, after I had dedicated my life over to the Lord, I was overwhelmed by His Spirit, I couldn't believe how instant everything was, it took a split second to change me, my eye's had opened like it never opened before, and I could see a new inner man rise from the dead.
As soon as I entered the Church the battle began, Christians had giving me a new direction about Christ, at times I was completely confused, I felt myself walking away from God, and the Church will say, I am Cursed with a cursed if I didn't pay tithes and offerings.
It took some time before I would know the Lords voice, He answered my prayer, but He waited until I could learn to understand Him' and through Word, tithes is a problem among the brethren, it causes arguments and disputes, envy, strife, it reviles evil suspicions, tithes causes greed that causes God's people to backslide and walk away from the truth, it causes men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is their means to financial gain. Then Jesus said: From such withdraw yourselves.
Don't you see, Preaching tithing isn't a smart move, its preaching another doctrine, that causes problems within the Church, there isn't enough information in the bible to prove we are meant to tithe. Ask yourself why didn't the disciples preached tithing, and why didn't Jesus preach tithing.
Your call...

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