fellis:
1st bold: Reflect ke? I just posted them to know what deols thinks about them. Different people have their own special way of understanding the verses. There are sites where you would see people interprete those verses and tell you they don't mean men are superior to women.
2nd bolded: You think the fact that women are sometimes assertive means they are desirous of proving their strength to men? Is it so hard for you to believe that women can actually be assertive or forceful naturally when occaision demands and not simply because they want to look badass? It seems you have the mindset that women should be soft and tender and fluffy all the time so when you see them displaying aggression you assume they are just trying to look like superwomen.
3rd bolded: Are you talking about the trio of jidegirl, chaircover and greatgod ? Those ones are confirmed believers in the superiority of men. Jidegirl especially. So I won't be surprised if they are the ones you are referring to.


Am not trying to start an argument with you mac , just replying your post.

maclatunji:
There you go again. You made a post, someone liked it- you complained. The person says he was just liking the fact that you are willing to talk about what you posted, you start distancing yourself from your own post. Okay, after deols tells you what she thinks of those quotes, none of your brain power will be channelled into assessing what she says abi?
As for the 3 ladies you mentioned, you only got one right and I won't deny complimenting her. Chaircover is a class act amongst the ladies I have interacted with on Nairaland.
Oya, go and search for the other two. Fellis, you make me laugh. The fact that you are complaining about someone liking your own post shows that you are trying a little bit too hard to prove something.

maclatunji: ^I am not shouting at you at all. Stop feeling sad, you are making me feel bad. Here is the thing, sometimes when I am responding to people on Nairaland, I am actually multitasking. I think some of that shortness of time and space does spill into my writing making it rather curt and a little bit too direct.

I am sorry about that, okay?

fellis:

So because you are multitasking you think that is an excuse to start shouting at me abi ?
You can multitask and still be nice....

maclatunji:
I said I wasn't shouting at you. My post might have been a little impatient but I definitely was not shouting. #Whatelse does she want me to #type ?
Would a poem make you feel better?

maclatunji: ^It would have been irrational to be angry but what can I say? People throw tantrums.

Sissie: salam. when are we going to start a post on how to make your wife happy, because i think the men are always hammering and preaching about the duties of a wife more than that of a man. its quite surprising that many muslim men dont even know certain issues about marriage. i.e in islam its not compulsory for a muslim wife to cook for her husband, now try telling that to an african man.

bukatyne: Yes Mummy

fellis:

What do you think of these verses and the Hadith?

[Qur'an 4:34]Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means’

[Qur'an 2:228]...and due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If I were to command anyone to prostrate to anyone other than Allah, I would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, no woman can fulfil her duty towards Allah until she fulfils her duty towards her husband. If he asks her (for intimacy) even if she is on her camel saddle, she should not refuse.”
Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 1853; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

deols:
I am coming back to these o. was a lil bit indisposed ystrdy...will be back in sha Allah and two things can happen-
1. reaffirm my stand on what I av been saying all along.
2. change my stand
...which one shall it be. later today is like reall late..bear with me pls.

deols:

I like being a mummy sha

fellis:

Lol. See how you wrote your post as if this thing is a drama series that we are anxious about the ending.
Look, if it isn't convinient for you to give feedback then forget about it. No wahala.

bukatyne: You sometimes remind moi of a friend of mine Aisha

fellis:

What do you think of these verses and the Hadith?

[Qur'an 4:34]Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means’

[Qur'an 2:228]...and due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

deols:
and because they spend from their means.
meaning the dowry, expenditures and various expenses that Allah ordained in His Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger for men to spend on women. For these reasons it is suitable that he is appointed her maintainer, just as Allah said, وَلِلرِّجَالِ عَلَيْهِنَّ دَرَجَةٌ (But men have a degree (of responsibility) over them). (2:228)
..this is both verses in one.
by my understanding, a man is a degree above her because he provides for her.that makes him d head and the degree is that of responsibility over her wa Allahu a'lam.
SOmething else to be noted though, while speaking about equality is that certain positions of leadership are not for a woman. Like in an Islamic state, a woman wouldn't be heaad of state. But in relation to piety, both men and women are equals in the sight of Allah.
Wa Allahu a'lam.

Mr_Anony:
Surely you do realize that "treating each other as you'd like to be treated" is not an atheistic characteristic. Atheism has no norms so essentially you are free to treat them good or bad since you are not accountable to any higher power.

fellis: Hi, deols and maclatunji. How is your day going? Hope fine

Anyway, I am curious about something and I need your opinions on it. It is in light of the verse I quoted earlier about men excelling over women.

The Quran, chapter 4 (An-Nisa), verse 34:
“ Men are guardians over women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means.

In the verse above, it is stated that men are guardians over women because they have been given more than women and because they support women from their means. I take it that 'means' in the verse is referring to financial means, so I was wondering, what about in a situation where the woman has a job and the man does not? Or in a situation where there is equal contribution in the marriage, with the wife supporting the family just as much as the husband does financially? Does that change anything about the man being the guardian of the woman?

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedules to answer.

MacDaddy01:

fellis:

Lol.

Why are you winking?

MacDaddy01:


I know you wont get a satisfactory answer. Can bet my life on it.

fellis:

I beg to differ.
I know my Muslim brother and sister. They are quite knowledgeable.

MacDaddy01:

lol and the atheists are what? Super knowledgeable?

fellis: Hi, deols and maclatunji. How is your day going? Hope fine

Anyway, I am curious about something and I need your opinions on it. It is in light of the verse I quoted earlier about men excelling over women.

The Quran, chapter 4 (An-Nisa), verse 34:
“ Men are guardians over women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means.

In the verse above, it is stated that men are guardians over women because they have been given more than women and because they support women from their means. I take it that 'means' in the verse is referring to financial means, so I was wondering, what about in a situation where the woman has a job and the man does not? Or in a situation where there is equal contribution in the marriage, with the wife supporting the family just as much as the husband does financially? Does that change anything about the man being the guardian of the woman?

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedules to answer.