Zikkyy:

The Levites did not have authority to collect, otherwise they would have demanded it be paid. Read Nehemiah, they would return to the farm anytime the Israelite defaults.

Change in priesthood necessitated the change in ownership Where is this from? which bible you dey read? Jesus collected the properties of the Levites That's so carnal of you :

Bidam: are you the High PRIEST?

Bidam: see me see wahala. Are you not the one talking about list? is it a crime for you to show me?

Bidam:
i was just making an analogy from the change of Aaronic priesthood to Christ according to heb 7. sorry if it sounded carnal to you.

shdemidemi:

Is your finger you? I am part of Christ, the head needs every part of the body to function properly.

Zikkyy:

You can list the mosaic law, but cannot do same for love. That's where the more is coming from. The moral aspect of the mosaic law was an extract from the complete law (love). That should tell you the mosaic law is not complete.

Zikkyy:

You are not getting it. Tithe by inheritance was not just for being in the priestly office, it was for belonging to a particular tribe. Even if you never get to serve in the temple, you are still entitled to collect tithe.

Bidam: I know about the levites.You forgot to mention that they also pay tithes. To whom do they pay tithes to?

shdemidemi:
educate me Please, Aaron paid tithe?

Bidam: Heb 7:9

shdemidemi:

You are the biggest olodo ever as regards scriptures though.

Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, 10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

The verse is saying before Jacob (Israel) was born. Why are you doing this na

shdemidemi:

Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, 10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

The verse is saying before Jacob (Israel) was born. Why are you doing this na

shdemidemi:

You lack understanding, Christ called you and me a dog there, it has nothing to do with what the gospel or good nws of Christ is. I repeat, what is the good news of Christ?

shdemidemi:

You lack understanding, Christ called you and me a dog there, it has nothing to do with what the gospel or good nws of Christ is. I repeat, what is the good news of Christ?

Bidam: Sorry to edit out the insult. we are all here to learn just like you said in other threads and not to throw childish tantrums and insults to each other.My point is levites paid tithes whether through Abraham as that scripture portrays doesn't matter and zikky knows that very well because it has well been discussed in this forum. Since this is an anonymous forum and you don't know me it might do you some good to desist from your insults please cos i don't subscribe to such. In order to help you in your ignorance i decided to quote another scripture from the OT. check Numbers 18 :28. pls do make a research before exposing your ignorance on a world wide web thanks.

shdemidemi:

Mr man, I am sorry about the insult, but something's you say especially in this issue of tithing calls for insult.
As for the Levites, the 10 % they pay from the tithe of Israelite is not recorded as a tithe but as a heave offering.

Bidam:
O yes they did.It is not their fault if isreal disobeyed God's law just like some folks do these days.

Bidam:
Agreed love encompasses all and that is why i don't view tithe as being legalistic from the scriptural perspective sha.

Bidam:
I know about the levites.You forgot to mention that they also pay tithes. To whom do they pay tithes to?

Zikkyy:

The above is enough proof that the Levites don't have authority.

Definition of Authority:

The power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience: e.g. "he had absolute authority over his subordinates".

The Levites don't have authority to collect tithe otherwise they squeeze it out of their brother Israelite.

Bidam:
In God's kingdom we don't use that kind of authority.God also has sovereign authority but He can't function without the willing participation of a human vessel.

Zikkyy:

Your tithing paying 10% of your income to your pastor becomes legalistic when you attempt to link it to God's command for the Isrealite to tithe their agric produce.

It is not legalistic if the giving was of your own volition and not because you are responding to a biblical command. The problem is that everybody (including Bidam) defending their 'tithing' activity here always try to justify it by reference to a biblical command. I don't see how you can convince me your 'tithing' is not an attempt to comply with a law (one that was never meant for you).

Bidam:
.....and that is why i said in my previous post that a Christian pays tithe not because the law demands it but because grace empowers us to give.

Bidam:
.....and that is why i said in my previous post that a Christian pays tithe not because the law demands it but because grace empowers us to give.

Zikkyy:

The Levite's tithe went to the Aaron. That's also proof that the priest cannot collect tithe from the people. THE TITHE FOR THE PRIEST COMES FROM THE LEVITES. If you were to be a Jew from any other tribe, the priest officiating in the temple can never receive your tithe, instead it goes to the Levi people.

Bidam:
Yes the levite's tithe went to the High priest.From this analogy levites are priest of Old. We are the Priests of the New. Jesus is NOW our High Priest. We as Priests offer Our tithes and offerings to JESUS NA.Simple bible sense.

Zikkyy:

Speak for ya self. I don't know of any Christian that tithe gives 10% of his/her income to the pastor because grace empowers him/her to give, and i know lots of tithers 10% givers. The justification has always been "it is written in the bible that i must tithe" or Malachi 3 so the devourer will not come near him/her or just because the person want to hammer.

Then you are no longer paying God's tithe, what you 'pay' is the pastoral tithe. It's good you know that.

Zikkyy:

...and who do we collect our 10% from, now that we are all levites? as Levites we are also entitled to receive tithe or 10% (we now have the authority and responsibility to collect tithe. abi, no be so you talk am?) You cannot just look at one leg of the transaction and ignore the other leg.

..and this is still not telling us that God's tithe was instituted for Christians. Unless you are referring to the pastoral tithe.

Bidam:
On the contrary i am speaking for all tithers who knows the truth about the infallibility of God's word.

Bidam:
Human interpretation.

Bidam:
There is nothing like pastor's tithe.It is God's tithe, the onus is on you to give me scriptural proof.

Bidam:
There is nothing like pastor's tithe.

Zikkyy:

Sorry to say this, but knowing the truth about the 'infallibility' of God's word does not equate to motivation for giving 10% of your income to the pastor. and even the 'infallibility' of God's word does not equate to Christian tithing. Like i said earlier, i know lots of tithers 10% givers and justification is never because grace empowers them to give. Sorry you cannot speak for them, they already told me why they tithe give 10%.



Am human. I don't pretend to be something am not.



Scriptural proof of pastoral tithe You don't find proof of pastoral tithe in the scriptures, instead you find it in Churches. It's end of month already, so visit the nearest Pentecostal church next Sunday for proof

You find God's tithe in the bible. Read from Moses.



Oh yes there is. Pastoral tithe is 10% of people's income. God's tithe is tithe of the land (produce of the land in Israel) and the tenth animal as counted by the herdsman.

Bidam: But everything written in His word is for our admonition no? No one is saying [b]not paying tithes will take you to hell na[/b].and that is why i said in my previous post that a Christian pays tithe not because the law demands it but because grace empowers us to give.

Bidam:
You still don't get the import of my meaning. I said from day one God intentions was for all Israel to be Priests and by extension the whole world who come to Christ the High Priest.This was clearly spelt out in the scriptures here “You shall be a special treasure to Me above all people... you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”. Exodus 19.5-6. Revelation 1.6 also says, “And [God] hath made
us kings and priests unto God and His Father.”

Bidam:
You still don't get the import of my meaning. I said from day one God intentions was for all Israel to be Priests and by extension the whole world who come to Christ the High Priest.This was clearly spelt out in the scriptures here “You shall be a special treasure to Me above all people... you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”. Exodus 19.5-6. Revelation 1.6 also says, “And [God] hath made
us kings and priests unto God and His Father.”

Bidam: And what are you trying to say here Smh