seguno2:

Yes- simple answer.
Right now the commissioner is a dash to the Igbo people hence they are supposed to be grateful.
If they elect people from their area they are likely to be more responsive to their needs rather than just make them pay taxes, rates and levies only to disappear and do nothing.
Then, after ABANDONING their RESPONSIBILITIES, the selected (as opposed to elected) LGA chairman, councillors and legislators will call oga gomina to come do Nollywood cinema for t

africannubian: i know a guy whose whole container of spare parts was seized and [size=13pt]he was fined thousands of euros[/size] to clean the engine oil in germany just because the truck transporting his container to the port was dripping black oil over the roads

the Mushin LGA collects rent for the shops and refuse disposal fees (same as "fined thousands of euros" are paid to the government agency that ABANDONED its duty

these traders have been indiscriminately dumping refuse including environmentally harmful refuse without a care for several years…

Nigeria can never improve with this silly regressive mindset of terming everything with ethnic/tribal sentiments

Virgin Finder:

Igbos have always contested for political positions in Lagos including the governorship position and they have always failed woefully.

babapupa:


You can repeat this rubbish a million times, you are still on the wrong side of cleanliness and personal hygiene.

seguno2:

Did you read somewhere that the Mushin LGA collects rent for the shops and refuse disposal fees (same as "fined thousands of euros" are paid to the government agency that ABANDONED its duty
The problem in Nigeria is that the docile citizens pay for services to government agencies and they get nothing in return YET expect to do the same work they already paid for. The most amazing thing is people in diaspora who should know better showing that they live away from Nigeria but have not changed their enslavement mentality. No wonder MOST of them stay in places that look very much like where they fled from on the dark continent.



They don't care yet they pay regularly for waste disposal to government agencies. Are you for real




Is it not a "silly regressive mindset" to pay for common services to a government and that government ABANDONS its duty while forcing you to do its work

careidon: @omonnakoda ---God bless u for ur posts.
i shld only add that MANAGING waste generation is the biggest solution to safe & clean environments not individual/govt cleaning efforts . Ketu median for example (what cleaning shld the govt be doing to such & other like places daily when the issue is just that of people & waste generation. Not endless cleaning).

Also these mkts (Ladipo inclusive) are all over-populated to make even the road accessible anymore (not to talk of having walkways like pics rossike was showing us). When such walk-ways are provided, the mkters find a way to turn them to stalls/shops again! We saw the proximity of some shops to the drainage/canal in the pics...

We all might need shove up our early sch. training as kids-when we are taught to manage our wastes by using the waste-bin or keep in our bags without saying we can litter (throw liquid, papers & sweet/biscuit wrappers around) just because we've paid fees or have sch cleaners to do the cleaning. I blv even now most of us wld not approve our kids being trained/taught otherwise in my opinion.

ROSSIKE:

No. YOU are the illiterate on the wrong side of basic common sense as well as knowledge of the role of government in society. Ignorant numbskull.

seguno2:

Did you read somewhere that the Mushin LGA collects rent for the shops and refuse disposal fees (same as "fined thousands of euros" are paid to the government agency that ABANDONED its duty

seguno2:
The problem in Nigeria is that the docile citizens pay for services to government agencies and they get nothing in return YET expect to do the same work they already paid for. The most amazing thing is people in diaspora who should know better showing that they live away from Nigeria but have not changed their enslavement mentality. No wonder MOST of them stay in places that look very much like where they fled from on the dark continent.

seguno2:
They don't care yet they pay regularly for waste disposal to government agencies. Are you for real

seguno2:
Is it not a "silly regressive mindset" to pay for common services to a government and that government ABANDONS its duty while forcing you to do its work

omonnakoda: There is a HUGE difference between "REFUSE" and INDUSTRIAL WASTE.
Discarded engines,gearboxes and suchlike are NOT refuse. Just as dead bodies are not refuse.
Do we ask the council to come and remove our relatives' corpses because we "pay tax".?

omonnakoda: Those who are interested can look at this document

http://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/_live/documents/content/industrial_waste_guidelines.pdf

which states among other things;

2
Roles and Responsibilities
2.1
Environmental Protection Service
The Environmental Protection Service (EPS) of the Department of Resources, Wildlife and
Economic Development is the Government of
the Northwest Territories' (GNWT) agency
responsible for initiatives which control the discharge of contaminants and their impact on the
natural environment. EPS is responsible fo
r ensuring that environmentally acceptable
management procedures, emission levels and disposal methods are maintained. By practise
the EPS's programs are applied primarily to
Commissioner's Land, lands administered by
municipal governments or GNWT undertakings.
Legislative authority is provided by the
Environmental Protection Act
(EPA) andPesticide Act. Contact EPS for a listing of relevantregulations and guidelines.
2.2
Industry
The responsibility
for proper waste management rests with the generator
and should be considered part of the cost of doing business.

This is from Canada and is similar in most civilzed places

Jah Man: I guess your Fashola will soon close Otto food market also because that one is too filthy for a food market.He might not do that since the traders constitute roughly 50:50 between his people and Igbos.
If you have gone to buy something at Ladipo,you will pity those Igbo boys.
After purchasing some motor parts,I was stopped by some hoodlums who demanded to know the worth of what I bought.My customer intervened and they collected their normal fee.I mean those jobless Yoruba omo-oniles collect fees from not only the traders but buyers. What are the levies meant for? To clean up the place ofcourse.
Aside from these levies,the traders are also meant to do weekly clean up every Thursday to clean their environment before opening shop. The leaders enforce this.
But tell me how far they can clean up the place when the levies paid are shared from Alausa down to the 'Area boys'? Then the dirty neighbourhood dump their bags of gabbage inside for them to clean up. Same rubbish I noticed in one area in Lagos.
It is a subtle plot for Fashola to close their shops with their goods in there while He and his cronies think about what to convert the place to. If eventually it retains its status as spare part market,then those Igbo traders will pay through their noses to get a tiny slot. Ask Tejuosho traders and understand.
I dislike the subtle way Fashola and his team are making those Igbo traders to suffer and every time you want them to clap for him because he appointed 'their brother' as a commissioner.
Even in finding a school for your ward is now tougher than getting a US visa in Lagos. Imagine after paying an annual tax in 7-digits to this ungrateful state,all the roads in my area are death traps,area boys are ignored to operate freely,while I cannot enjoy the benefit of sending a househelp to a decent public school.
Let no untamed surfer tell me to relocate to my place. I am ready to do that for a very long time if only my kind of job is not situated in head office but in regions.
Enough of this hype of Fashola being a performing governor,he is plain annoying.

africannubian:
i am not holding brief for the govt,the point is sorting out the situation on ground as easily and seamlessly as possible will you wait on govt for donkey years if they refuse to do their duty? besides have you compared what traders pay to muslin local govt in relation to the services required to clear the market? i have posted a link in the previous page of the city of london budget check how much is budgeted for cleaning the streets then compare to the total allocation of not mushn local govt but lagos state govt/lawma

one of the most fundamental things i learnt in a british university is not just the book knowledge but taking the initiative and getting things done without necessarily waiting for govt,unless we are being clueless we all know that even with the corruption and what not,lago state budget cannot realistically cope with all that needs to be done…migration to lagos is out of control and still continuing……traders and business ppl never ever pay the correct fees they are supposed to govt..if i was chairman of those traders it behoves me to clean the whole place up and make it conducive because we will be the first to enjoy it..a fraction of what they have lost in the couple of days of not trading would not only have cleaned the market but ongoing weekly or bi weekly cleaning as well..in a park not far from my house groups of teenagers gather there in d evenings smoking and drinking alcohol just last week i saw about 4 white retirees with black bean bags picking the litter on my way to work when i got back and passed through the park it was cleaned and they even hanged extra bean bags on the wooden post demarcating the park where ppl throw rubbish that is taking the initiative..

so in your own peculiar view,the muslin local govt have not done any single thing in that market then?? besides referring to my point above do a comparative analysis to how much traders in the market pay in levys and fees to govt then compare to how much a shop owner in liverpool street market in london pays to the govt…apart from the almost 40% page tax the borough which is the equivalent of a local govt then you will begin to appreciate both cases btw the info is available on the net
it is a regressive mindset equating perceived govt clampdown which is long overdue with tribal sentiments

seguno2:

All you have written further shows that Fashola and the ACN people in Mushin LGA and other councils do not know what their work is or at best do not know how to do their work.
Why do they not raise the amount paid for sewage disposal if what was paid in the past was not enough?
What exactly did they do with the amount received in the past to the extent that waste accumulated so much?
Why did they not have sanitation enforcement agents to inform/educate/sensitise the markets on the appropriate laws and then ensure COMPLIANCE

As I said earlier Fashola and the Mushin LGA chairman need to follow Pope Benedict's example if they cannot handle simple governance issue of keeping PUBLIC market place clean at ALL TIMES.