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Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Olaone1: 10:38pm On Mar 07, 2013 |
Kilode?!: |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Nobody: 1:09am On Mar 08, 2013 |
@OP very well said. @Ajanlekoko you will always have my respect for being consistent and saying the hard truth that some us don't like to hear. I remember vividly that 7 years ago, 2006, 2007 and old-time Nairalanders can bear me witness, it was possible for you to attend 2 Bank interviews in a week and also get recruited simply by gate-crashing at the venue of aptitude tests. At that time, shortly before I completed my NYSC a friend of mine woke me up with a phone call on a saturday morning at 7am informing me to hurry up and get dressed to attend a bank aptitude test at 10am same day, when I asked him what bank was recruiting, he told me it was Unity bank...I just hissed, dropped the call and went back to sleep. (no offence to Unity Bankers by the way ) But now, things have changed drastically...if you get a job in a Micro finance Bank now thank God, I still try to monitor current job boards like Nairaland in order to examine the situation of the Nigerian job market but the state of the economy is far less than impressive. The current unemployment rate in Nigeria in my own opinion ranks amongst the worst in the world, having said that this does not mean there are no jobs at all but only for the fortunate few. I am one of the advocates of having a foreign degree if you wish to have exposure but only believe it can be used as good leverage with the requisite foreign experience not that you cant get it by work for a top corporate or MNC in Nigeria but how many people are even given the opportunity. In the UK, where I am presently studying for a postgraduate degree, the citizens are also complaining there are no jobs while non-EU students after graduation choose to go back to their countries rather than remain illegal immigrants, this is quite understandable and which is why Indian students in their wisdom have chosen not to spend hard earned money to pay thousands of pounds to obtain foreign degrees any more in the UK now David Cameron had to visit Indian in person soliciting for their comeback assuring them that the immigration laws will be changed...in what way? he cant really explain it. Recently released statistics show net immigration into the UK has fallen by 34% within the past 12 months! largely drive by failure of international students to come study in the UK. But still there are jobs for those that seek them and I have changed part-time jobs three times seeking higher pay since I arrived last September. One thing I discovered about developed countries especially the UK is their greatest investment is in people and not fixed assets, Human assets. That is why you will see a school teacher or a social worker earning more than a company accountant, a nurse will earn more than an engineer. You wont believe how old some of their buildings are and the simple mini-cars these people drive about but they believe everyone has a right to the basic things of life including good food and education. I really feel for the poster and it may be too late to pass any advice but trust that doors will open for you soon enough and a parting shot for anyone choosing to come abroad for a degree: 1. Have a contingency plan and don't expect the job will fall on your laps even if you had Naija work experience. Apart from UK graduate positions if I don't get into any, I already applied to several PhD studentships (with funding) and will switch CAS numbers next fall securing my place here for the next 3 years at least. 2. Be ready not to go back home until you have solid 3-5 years work experience and I mean SOLID... for example, having worked for years at a UK/US call center job hoping you will be recruited as a Senior Software Engineer in Nigeria because you studied MSc Computer science at a Uni in that foreign country is not exactly solid but probably you have worked on some IT projects, developed some applications that had commercial impact. 3. Have an open mind here and be ready to do any 'moderate' job, I mean jobs that are below your 'paper' qualification employers here don't really care about your degree it is what u can do. That's why most IT recruiters here place MSC and BSc and High school leavers with years of coding experience on the same entry level and promoting based on on-the-job performance. As you keep at it you will get the job, position and experience that you desire which can be used as a bargaining chip when u get back home. Just see your foreign degree as a 'means-to-an-end' an opportunity to access the benefits of the land. 4. Finally, when u secure that plum Naija job, have your offer letter sent to you even before booking your flight ticket back home. |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Olaone1: 6:54am On Mar 08, 2013 |
AjanleKoko:During Ali Must Go riots, were they not closed. I'm not sure but I think it happened in the 70s. Did students lose some weeks/months or not? |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by AjanleKoko: 8:21am On Mar 08, 2013 |
Ola one: That was 1978,incidentally the year ASUU was formed from the old NAUT. Now that was a student plus teachers collabo, and it resulted in a long closure as well. |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Nobody: 9:19am On Mar 08, 2013 |
@OP very well said. Agreed. 2004-2008 was a boom period (whether it was bubble that was destined to burst is another kettle of fish) for the Nigerian labour market. There was almost more demand than supply sef. Banks - nay financial services industry in general - were recruting almost on daily basis, with fat pay. People, especially qualified folks, were spoiled with choices. That was the period some of us entered the labour market, and probably wise enough not to resign after one year to Masters abroad as some of our mates did after earning fat pays for 1 year. I remember telling StanbicIBTC to hold on, refusing to go pick my offer letter, while waiting on Vetiva. I remember not hsowing up at Accenture tests invitations, asking KPMG to shift my interview date for me etc. Things are no longer that. You hardly have options today. Even with my 4 years experience, I spent almost 1 year actively nosing for a move before one fell on my lap last year. |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by vanitty: 9:25am On Mar 08, 2013 |
And merry-go-round we go! You just don't go to university to learn 'book'! Your skill set becomes more enhanced not talking about experience here. Anywho back to topic, so you have a foreign degree and so what? Situation like this irks me, so you automatically think you deserve to be on top of the pile in Nigeria. How fair is that? Relegating the Nigeria graduate further down the job line. If you a Cambridge/ Imperial/ Harvard or whatever uni graduate is stupid enough in the first place to go and be looking for job in Nigeria and you find yourself competing with an Offa Poly graduate, if he happens to get the job, so be it! Don't start lamenting on how unfair it is. Even in the country you did the so-called degree, do you know how many of your mate are working in low skilled jobs? You get to Nigeria and expect to lord over everyone, automatically wants that Millionssss job with no experience Why don't you stay and be demanding a high paying job in that country! and nope I am not hating on your 'ish' foreign certificates, I have been accumulating then since I was in year 7! |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by debosky(m): 9:47am On Mar 08, 2013 |
^^ Pray tell what certificates get issued at age 7 these days? |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by vanitty: 9:59am On Mar 08, 2013 |
debosky: ^^ Pray tell what certificates get issued at age 7 these days? The teletubbies ones ofcourse. I have the right to be proud of my colourful drawing certificate as well. All na foreign |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by AjanleKoko: 10:10am On Mar 08, 2013 |
debosky: ^^ Pray tell what certificates get issued at age 7 these days? Kindergarten certificate of completion |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Emperoh(m): 10:22am On Mar 08, 2013 |
debosky: ^^ Pray tell what certificates get issued at age 7 these days? I wouldn't know whether he meant 7 years or year 7 All join sha |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by vanitty: 11:03am On Mar 08, 2013 |
Emperoh: Year 7 is 10/11 years old but yep all join. @ Ajanlekoko Don't be looking down at those certificates, I have a plan for my "foreign" certificates. Thank you very much |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by AjanleKoko: 2:12pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
vanitty: Of course you do |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by InvertedHammer: 1:47am On Mar 09, 2013 |
coogar: Aptitude tests and interviews are weed-out processes. The companies know that any f_khead can do the job. But they want the best for their money. I have heard of new employees who go through all these rigorous processes to get hired only to find out that their supervisor/bosses are dumb a_ses. You remember the Civil Defense boss who couldn't give the website of NCDS? Do you think he got the job on merit? Can you imagine that the slowpoke is some people's boss? That's Nigeria...where unimaginable things happen. |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by doziej84: 5:02pm On Mar 12, 2013 |
Rhino.5dm: @rhino, do you have a degree in Geophysics? |
Re: Foreign Degree & The Nigerian Mentality by Coolgar: 12:30pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
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