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Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:28pm On Mar 21, 2013
Published time: March 21, 2013 17:40

Edited time: March 21, 2013 21:09



A blast ripped through a mosque in the Syrian capital, killing a prominent pro-government Sunni cleric Sheikh Mohammed Said Ramadan al-Bouti. At least 42 people have died and 84 more were wounded in the attack.

“Senior cleric Dr Mohammed Saeed Ramadan al-Bouti was martyred in a terrorist suicide attack at the Iman Mosque in Mazraa in Damascus," Syrian State TV said.

Sirens could be heard echoing through the capital as the scene of the blast was cordoned off by the military. TV footage revealed a chaotic scene of eviscerated bodies with severed limbs strewn across the blood-stained floor of the mosque.

RT Arabic’s correspondent Kamel Saqv, who is in Damascus, said that elementary courses on Islam were being conducted at the time of the attack. Many of the dead are believed to be students, he said.

An official source told Syrian State TV that the assailant intended to blow himself up while the students were listening to prayer.

Local residents contacted by Reuters said they initially believed the explosion was caused when a mortar shell hit a nearby political office.

The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that rebel fighters were battling with government forces in the area and that mortars had been fired.

Bouti, 83, was President of the Association of Islamic Scholars of Syria and a staunch supporter of President Bashar Assad. Bouti had once characterized the Syrian opposition as 'scum', and had also called on Syrians to join the military and help the government defeat the rebel fighters in the two-year-long conflict.


Syrian TV had broadcast his sermons live every week from mosques around Damascus and he also hosted his own religious TV program. His death has been viewed as a serious blow to the government, which is fighting a primarily Sunni-led insurgency.

“The mainstream media will have difficulty” in reporting about this attack, because this was a pro-Assad Sunni cleric, believes, RT Contributor Afshin Rattansi.

“How is it that the Anglo-French-backed, or what should we call them, rebels – insurgents or are they terrorists – are going around killing Sunni clerics in a mosque in Damascus. Perhaps, the [mainstream media] will not be reporting about it at all because it’s so against their idea of sectarianizing Syria between Shia’s and Sunnis,” he observed.

Rattansi also expressed hope that in the context of today’s bombing, “the whole idea of a NATO-backed instability creation in Syria, and three million displaced people in Syria, people within the State Department in Washington will realize that funding must stop for these insurgent groups.”

http://rt.com/news/damascus-mosque-suicide-attack-615/
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:52pm On Mar 21, 2013
an evidence of how dangerous to humanity Wahhabis/salafists (followers of ibn taymiyyah and ibn Abdul-wahab) are.

they don't only kill Shia Muslims and Christians who differ with them in beliefs.they also kill Sunni Muslims who disagree with them in politics,while the terrorists claim they are part of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal Jama'ah (i.e. Sunnis).

is Sheikh Mohammed Saeed Ramadan al-Bouti not Sunni? why was this old honorable man who refused to support the Saudi and American sponsored terrorism and insurgency carried by foreign Wahhabi fighters and local terrorists in Syria killed?
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by ZhulFiqar2: 10:57pm On Mar 21, 2013
this attack reminds me of the recent assassination attempt by our own local Wahhabi/salafist zealots (book haram) against the Emir of Kano,his eminence Ado Bayero.anyone who differs with these s**ms is a target to be killed.a virus to humanity mistaken for Islam.they keep giving Muslims a bad reputation throught their terrorism which have no place in Islam.

how can anyone kill civilians (be they Shia,Sunnis,or Christians) and shout "Allahu Akbar".do these people worship Allah?
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by tbaba1234: 10:09am On Apr 10, 2013
Could this be more Assad lies??

This report from the BBC suggests the Sheikh al buti was not killed by any suicide bomber. A man approaches him after the blast and kills him. It seems to suggest the government has hands in this, could it be more of Assad propaganda game?.. Allahu alim..

Syria 'death video' of Sheikh al-Bouti poses questions
By Jim Muir BBC News, Beirut




A video currently circulating on the internet, purporting to show the explosion on 21 March that killed Sheikh Muhammad al-Bouti in a Damascus mosque, raises many questions about the death of a man who was more familiar to Syrian TV viewers than anybody other than President Bashar al-Assad.

The regime accorded his death massive coverage in the official media, far more than any other single event since the uprising began more than two years ago.

It said the heavily-guarded sheikh was assassinated by a suicide bomber who blew himself up in the mosque in a huge explosion that also killed around 50 students and Sheikh al-Bouti's grandson, leaving many others badly injured.

That version of events is not borne out by the video, the authenticity of which has not so far been seriously challenged.
A flash, a bang, some smoke

The video clip shows Sheikh al-Bouti sitting at a desk in the al-Iman mosque in central Damascus apparently addressing religious students, as he was reportedly doing at the time of his death.

As he is speaking, there is a small explosion in front of the desk. It produces a flash, a bang and some smoke, but is not strong enough to disturb the desk or to shake the camera.

Within three seconds the smoke clears enough for the viewer to see the Sheikh, who has slumped sideways to our left clutching his head. He straightens himself up groggily, adjusting his headgear which had slipped.

Although there is still some smoke, no obvious injuries are visible. The sheikh is also strong enough to sit back up without using his hands to push himself upright - they are busy straightening his turban.

At that point, just five seconds after the explosion, a man dressed in dark clothing moves forward in front of the camera and approaches the sheikh, blocking him from view.

He appears to do something to the sheikh and lays him back sideways to our left, leaving him slumped and inert as the man himself moves off camera to the left, after an appearance lasting only five seconds. He does not reappear.

Five more men then move forward around the desk and pull the sheikh up and away to the right. By now he is already limp and is bleeding heavily from the mouth and from a wound to the left side of his head.

The video ends at that point, after just 29 seconds.

While the sheikh's voice is audible - at the moment of the blast he is saying: "That's not a problem..." - and the explosion is also heard, the subsequent scenes are acted out in silence with just a low crackling sound.

The video has many disturbing and peculiar aspects to it. It raises numerous questions, and leaves them unanswered.
No panic or chaos

A few facts are clear. It is definitely Sheikh al-Bouti in the video, giving a talk. And 29 seconds later, he is either dead or mortally stricken.



But by what?

The blast itself clearly did not kill him outright. While he may have sustained injuries, they appear to have left him shaken and dazed but not disabled.

It was not a big explosion. His desk and the books and papers on it were not disturbed. Had the bomb been under the desk and inflicted internal injuries, the desk would have been blown over.

The blast seems to have gone off some distance in front of the desk, and the men who subsequently approached him walked through that area apparently unruffled, with no sense of panic or emergency.

Their movements, and those of the man in dark who first approaches the sheikh, have a strangely choreographed feel to them. They appear detached and almost professional.

There is nothing of the panic and chaos that accompanies big bomb explosions in crowded places.

Much hinges on the actions of the man in dark, which cannot be seen clearly. He is clearly not moving in to provide first aid to the sheikh. He does not run around the desk to help him. He approaches from the front, does something to him, lays him to the side, and moves away.

From his movements, seen from behind, he does not appear to be either shooting or stabbing the sheikh with force. He could be sliding or injecting something into him. If so, it is done very calmly and professionally.

What is clear is that as that man moves away, the sheikh is dead or dying.

The other men who then move in make no attempt to attend to him or investigate his injuries, they just heave him up and drag him away.

Conflicting reports

From the evidence in the video, it is inconceivable that such a small blast could have caused the death of around 50 other people, as reported by the state media - but also, curiously, by the opposition-linked Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The implication of the video is that the sheikh was the only victim, since the men who approach him after the explosion are there within a few seconds and come from the direction of the blast.

On the day of the event, Syrian TV carried pictures of the aftermath, mainly shot outside or on the steps of the mosque.

Images from inside showed some superficial debris, but not the kind of structural damage or bloodbath that would be expected from a huge bomb killing 50 people in an enclosed space.

The regime's account was that the blast was the work of a lone suicide bomber who had infiltrated the students attending Sheikh al-Bouti's talk.

But the video shows a group of men, one of them wearing a suit, working together to remove the sheikh's body swiftly, apparently in coordination with the man in dark who had moved away.

The implication seemed to be that the sheikhs' killing was the work of the regime - an accusation immediately levelled by the opposition at the time and repeated by many of those drawing attention to the video.

But why would the regime kill an elderly, highly distinguished Sunni cleric who had stood by it through thick and thin and castigated the rebels as terrorists and mercenaries?

His murder was condemned not only by the regime, but also by the opposition.

Commenting on the video, the head of the opposition coalition, Moaz al-Khatib, himself a Damascus preacher, described it as "a clear act of premeditated, cold-blooded murder - may God punish those who killed him."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22086230
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by gronzywares: 3:40pm On Apr 10, 2013
eventually the man in question died on what he made permissible

Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 9:00pm On Apr 10, 2013
^

martyrdom operation (against Israeli occupation) by poor Palestinians who are overwhelmed by Israeli firepower and have little ways to defend themselves cannot be compared to Wahhabi terrorists conducting suicide operations in mosques and churches against anyone who disagree with them in opinion or religion.self-defense and freedom to believe are both inalienable human rights.what you can see is the fact that Israel and alqaeda (Wahhabi terrorists generally) are two faces of the same coin when it comes to persecution,oppression,extemism,racism,apartheid and intolerance.
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 12:24pm On Apr 11, 2013
The Shia Hezbollah are also as guilty of suicide bombing as the Al Qaeda terrorists
Infact they were the first set of people claiming to be Muslims who carried out suicide bombing. This was done with the assistance of Iran

This video confirms that see 5.45
The Iranian commander confirmation of martyrdom of the suicide bomber is in 7.45 - 8.00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLjRkrTxkzY
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 12:28pm On Apr 11, 2013
The Shia Assad regimes murders civilians too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22098794


The Syrian Air Force is carrying out both deliberate air strikes against civilians and indiscriminate attacks, a leading rights group has warned.

The four defectors told HRW that commanders ordered strikes on urban areas - despite being unable to take adequate measures to protect civilians - "in part to instil fear in the civilian population in opposition strongholds, and also to deprive the opposition of its support".
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 5:57pm On Apr 13, 2013
BetaThings: The Shia Assad regimes murders civilians too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22098794


please stop lying.

the assad regime is not "Shia".the assad family itself is alawites.alawites being an offshoot sect of Shia Islam,doesnt make them Shia.

I don't think you're unaware of that.so that's why I kindly asked you to stop lying.your lies are becoming too much,that the moderators should deal with your mischief and your drive to spread lies and hatred against others.

secondly,the regime in Syria which is secular,is under attack and conspiracy from foreign forces including the US,Israel,saudi Arabia,turkey and Qatar to topple it.they are sending in foreign terrorists to fight the regime in Syria.and it is only natural the regime fights back.take a look at the atrocities committed against the Syrian people by the Wahhabi/Salafi Sunni terrorists and Sunni rebels.one of them include killing al-Bouthi.
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 6:03pm On Apr 13, 2013
BetaThings: The Shia Hezbollah are also as guilty of suicide bombing as the Al Qaeda terrorists
Infact they were the first set of people claiming to be Muslims who carried out suicide bombing. This was done with the assistance of Iran

This video confirms that see 5.45
The Iranian commander confirmation of martyrdom of the suicide bomber is in 7.45 - 8.00

you compare Wahhabi terrorists of alqaeda killing civilians for holding different beliefs,and a resistance movement like Hezbollah (and also sunni Palestinian groups) who are fighting against the invasion and occupation of their lands.it is not a question about the means but the end.

you have previously being answered elsewhere to your silly analogy:

Rafidi :

https://www.nairaland.com/1249625/mainstream-sunnis-call-liberating-makkah#15160536
it is not a matter of suicide bombing or jumping from a 100 storey building.its about who is your target.the bombings in Beirut targeted American and French troops,and those were seen as occupation forces interfering in the affairs of another country.the American embassy too was influencing and fueling the Lebanese civil war through its network of spies to the advantage of pro-Israel sympathizers.

the fact remains I do not criticize for instance Sunni Hamas for conducting suicide bombing or what they call martyrdom operation against Israeli targets.but I criticize book haram for using suicide bombing to target churches,just as I criticize Wahhabis/salafists for using suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Pakistan.

the point is the Wahhabis/salafists have given Israel a justification to tarnish the reputation of its opponents.wahhabi/salafist terrorists are doing harm to the cause of the Palestinians.now anyone who fights Israel,even if its a sunni exploding himself at an Israeli checkpoint,israel is quick to point out that the attack was carried out by a "suicide bomber".it is now synonymous with terrorism.before,sunni Palestinians and shia Lebanese attack Israel using martyrdom or suicide bombing,and it was not synonymous with terrorism or attacking civilians for their different beliefs.wahhabi terrorists have done harm to the image of muslims and their legitimate cause in Palestine.they have done a great favor to Israel.and remember you are talking here of oppressed and victimized Palestinians whose land is stolen and are overpowered by Israel's superior firepower,and the Palestinians seek ways to defend themselves and inflict loss upon their enemy.the Palestinians seek suicide bombing because they are dying anyways,so let them die while defending themselves and inflicting loss upon the enemy.according to Sheikh Ahmad Yassin,he said when Palestinians have planes and sophisticated weapons to defend themselves,they will have no need to resort to a tactic like suicide bombing.Sheikh Yassin was a (non-wahhabi) Sunni.hear him talk before his assassination on his wheelchair:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvnXR_X-TX0

BetaThing,you are now sounding like the Christian:

gronzywares: eventually the man in question died on what he made permissible
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 6:07pm On Apr 13, 2013
tbaba1234: Could this be more Assad lies??

This report from the BBC suggests the Sheikh al buti was not killed by any suicide bomber. A man approaches him after the blast and kills him. It seems to suggest the government has hands in this, could it be more of Assad propaganda game?.. Allahu alim..


lol...but you see there was an explosion?

and it was not the first Wahhabis have targeted scholars in Syria,shia,sunni and Christian scholars.bouthi happens to be high profile,that even sunnis who support the rebels are ashamed.
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 10:11am On Apr 14, 2013
LagosShia:

please stop lying.

the assad regime is not "Shia".the assad family itself is alawites.alawites being an offshoot sect of Shia Islam,doesnt make them Shia.

So what are they? You have blamed Sunnis for giving rise to Ahmadiyyahs
You have to be consistent

LagosShia:
I don't think you're unaware of that.so that's why I kindly asked you to stop lying.your lies are becoming too much,that the moderators should deal with your mischief and your drive to spread lies and hatred against others.

I actually see no difference between you guys. The foundation and core are the same

LagosShia:
I kindly asked you to stop lying.your lies are becoming too much,that the moderators should deal with your mischief and your drive to spread lies and hatred against others.

1. I want you to compile my lies while I compile yours
2. I want you to compile my posts desisned to stir hatred and I will compile yours
Then lest us submit the result to the moderators

LagosShia:
secondly,the regime in Syria which is secular,is under attack and conspiracy from foreign forces including the US,Israel,saudi Arabia,turkey and Qatar to topple it.they are sending in foreign terrorists to fight the regime in Syria.and it is only natural the regime fights back.take a look at the atrocities committed against the Syrian people by the Wahhabi/Salafi Sunni terrorists and Sunni rebels.one of them include killing al-Bouthi.

I cannot see how you are suddenly in love with a secular country. A conscious Shia always eulogising the "Islamic strides" in Iran?
Yes, the killing of civilians by a "government" does not matter. we should focus on the terrorists!
State terrorism is ok, but terrorism by non-state actors is fine. I see your point
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 10:14am On Apr 14, 2013
LagosShia:

you compare Wahhabi terrorists of alqaeda killing civilians for holding different beliefs,and a resistance movement like Hezbollah (and also sunni Palestinian groups) who are fighting against the invasion and occupation of their lands.it is not a question about the means but the end.

you have previously being answered elsewhere to your silly analogy:

I don't agree with Rafidi. That is hair splitting. And it opens the door to suicidal strategies.
I am not a Japanese. I don't believe in strapping a bomb to oneself either during a war or while visiting a church
So that Beirut bombing by Hezbollah supported by Iran is a sin
Just like Boko Haram's acts


LagosShia:
BetaThing,you are now sounding like the Christian:

I don't pray to anyone beside Allah
You invoke Ali (RA) for help. That is much more Christian-like!
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:25am On Apr 14, 2013
BetaThings:
So what are they? You have blamed Sunnis for giving rise to Ahmadiyyahs
You have to be consistent
they are alawites.i have not called ahmadiyyahs "sunnis".they are a sub-sect of sunnism.


I actually see no difference between you guys. The foundation and core are the same
you see no difference because you cant see at all.


1. I want you to compile my lies while I compile yours
2. I want you to compile my posts desisned to stir hatred and I will compile yours
Then lest us submit the result to the moderators
keep making fool out of yourself.in real life,you'd be mocked and driven away like a kid.


I cannot see how you are suddenly in love with a secular country. A conscious Shia always eulogising the "Islamic strides" in Iran?
mumu,where did I say i'm in love with a secular country? are you deaf? you said assad's regime is a "shia regime".i corrected you that it is secular baathi regime and not a religious one of any type.


Yes, the killing of civilians by a "government" does not matter. we should focus on the terrorists!
State terrorism is ok, but terrorism by non-state actors is fine. I see your point

too bad! whether state terrorism or not,terrorism is terrorism.and it is sunni civilians mostly that are suffering from both sides.however I disagree with the notion that the assad regime is killing people or civilians who are helpless and harmless.there is a civil war being fought in Syria with guns,rockets and bombs.it is not a regime going after harmless civilians.both sides are supported by the Syrian people.i differ and oppose the terrorists fighting the government because they are receiving help and orders from the western countries and their Wahhabi puppets,and also terrorists from other countries like Pakistan,chechnya,somalia,afghanistan,libya are fueling the conflict in Syria with the blessing of the west and the Wahhabi states in the Persian gulf.and by all accounts the government of assad remains the legitimate representative of the Syrian people and in charge of defending the sovereignty and integrity of Syria,and restoring peace and security against anyone it deems as an enemy component.it is the responsibility of the government to defend the country and its people,and the Syrian government by all accounts still represents and is approved of by the majority of the Syrian people.
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:31am On Apr 14, 2013
BetaThings:

I don't agree with Rafidi. That is hair splitting. And it opens the door to suicidal strategies.
I am not a Japanese. I don't believe in strapping a bomb to oneself either during a war or while visiting a church
So that Beirut bombing by Hezbollah supported by Iran is a sin
Just like Boko Haram's acts
tell that to your Sunni brothers in Palestine.


I don't pray to anyone beside Allah
You invoke Ali (RA) for help. That is much more Christian-like!

I do not invoke Ali (as) for help.but Sunnis believe Khidr (as) is the one controlling the world! wink
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 11:27pm On Apr 17, 2013
LagosShia:
tell that to your Sunni brothers in Palestine.
I don't need to tell any sunni that suicide bombing is haram
It is well established
Shia first claimed that they don't do suicide bombing
When evidence is produced that it is a lie, they now say that it is a halal military strategy
You keep shifting your position

LagosShia:
I do not invoke Ali (as) for help.but Sunnis believe Khidr (as) is the one controlling the world! wink
Of course you do
Why do you say Ya Ali Madad
Somebody that is dead in his grave
Here are people posting letters to some Imam dwelling in a well (of all places!), asking (ASKING) the dead by phone from
Sunnis say Khidr control the world? Where? Some sunnis don't even agree he is a prophet
Now Shirk is a sin? When did Shia creed change to recognise as shirk the practice of beseeching human beings or equating some men in some caves to Allah
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by alexis(m): 10:40pm On Apr 18, 2013
BetaThings:

I don't agree with Rafidi. That is hair splitting. And it opens the door to suicidal strategies.
I am not a Japanese. I don't believe in strapping a bomb to oneself either during a war or while visiting a church
So that Beirut bombing by Hezbollah supported by Iran is a sin
Just like Boko Haram's acts



I don't pray to anyone beside Allah
You invoke Ali (RA) for help. That is much more Christian-like!

You guys are funny - see muslims calling themselves Christians because of the contradictions in their history. Cha! Cha! Cha!
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by alexis(m): 10:41pm On Apr 18, 2013
BetaThings:
I don't need to tell any sunni that suicide bombing is haram
It is well established
Shia first claimed that they don't do suicide bombing
When evidence is produced that it is a lie, they now say that it is a halal military strategy
You keep shifting your position


Of course you do
Why do you say Ya Ali Madad
Somebody that is dead in his grave
Here are people posting letters to some Imam dwelling in a well (of all places!), asking (ASKING) the dead by phone from
Sunnis say Khidr control the world? Where? Some sunnis don't even agree he is a prophet
Now Shirk is a sin? When did Shia creed change to recognise as shirk the practice of beseeching human beings or equating some men in some caves to Allah

WOW - And we are to believe the Quran was written before the creation of the world. Cha! Cha! Cha! Cha!
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by alexis(m): 10:45pm On Apr 18, 2013
BetaThings

You are one of the few Muslims that have my respect when it comes to condemning violence, suicide bombings and other atrocities committed in the name of God. 5 GBOSA out to you - GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA GBOSA.

I like the fact that you are objective smiley.
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 2:48am On Apr 19, 2013
LagosShia:
they are alawites.i have not called ahmadiyyahs "sunnis".they are a sub-sect of sunnism.

Alawites are Shias
No sunni or sunni sect believes that there is any Prophet after prophet Muhammd (SAW)
Ahmadiyyas do believe that Gulam Ahmad is a Prophet, Ahmmadiyyas are not muslims!

LagosShia:
you see no difference because you cant see at all.

There isn't any difference
The two of each has each other's backs because of that

LagosShia:
keep making fool out of yourself.in real life,you'd be mocked and driven away like a kid.


I challenge you to prove that I am a liar
If you are truthful, IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, take up the challenge!
Let us publish each other's lies and hatred-inciting posts and present the result to readers and moderators


LagosShia:
mumu,where did I say i'm in love with a secular country? are you deaf? you said assad's regime is a "shia regime".i corrected you that it is secular baathi regime and not a religious one of any type.

You are always praising that "secular" regime in Syria. It is monarchy from father so son. But you hate monarchy!
You support that "secular" monarchical regime. That cannot be borne out of hatred

LagosShia:
too bad! whether state terrorism or not,terrorism is terrorism.and it is sunni civilians mostly that are suffering from both sides.however I disagree with the notion that the assad regime is killing people or civilians who are helpless and harmless.there is a civil war being fought in Syria with guns,rockets and bombs.it is not a regime going after harmless civilians.both sides are supported by the Syrian people.i differ and oppose the terrorists fighting the government because they are receiving help and orders from the western countries and their Wahhabi puppets,and also terrorists from other countries like Pakistan,chechnya,somalia,afghanistan,libya are fueling the conflict in Syria with the blessing of the west and the Wahhabi states in the Persian gulf.and by all accounts the government of assad remains the legitimate representative of the Syrian people and in charge of defending the sovereignty and integrity of Syria,and restoring peace and security against anyone it deems as an enemy component.it is the responsibility of the government to defend the country and its people,and the Syrian government by all accounts still represents and is approved of by the majority of the Syrian people.

So the Chenchens exist! Any support for them? No, it will annoy Russia, your bossom friend
You guys are all about politics operating under the smokescreen of Islam
So a regime using rockets on its people - civilians - enjoys your support because of outsiders
And what has Russia been doing
Legitimate?
You don't have to govern by force. It is a trust
By the time you are using planes within your country, especially as the protests were initially non-violent, you should give up
But then given his background, Assad cannot see any life beyond head of state-ship

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Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:44pm On Apr 26, 2013
^
please give me one reason why you think any Shia out here should take you seriously and waste his time to reply to your posts and the points you state in them.then I will give you 5 valid reasons why you should be ignored. grin
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 4:52am On Apr 27, 2013
LagosShia: ^
please give me one reason why you think any Shia out here should take you seriously and waste his time to reply to your posts and the points you state in them.then I will give you 5 valid reasons why you should be ignored. grin

Accept the challenge. You said moderators should look at my case because I lie
Had I asked you to do so in the name of Ali (RA) instead of in the name of Allah (SWT), you would have quickly jumped at the dare.

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Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by alexis(m): 7:06am On Apr 27, 2013
Enjoying this ................ grin
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by vedaxcool(m): 3:28pm On Apr 27, 2013
LagosShia: ^
please give me one reason why you think any Shia out here should take you seriously and waste his time to reply to your posts and the points you state in them.then I will give you 5 valid reasons why you should be ignored. grin

Lol grin if I were u I would use my last breadth to prove correctthings right rather than laughing like al'i'exis't when lying!'
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by deSika(m): 6:00pm On Apr 27, 2013
alexis: Enjoying this ................ grin
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Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 10:43pm On Apr 27, 2013
BetaThings:

Accept the challenge. You said moderators should look at my case because I lie
Had I asked you to do so in the name of Ali (RA) instead of in the name of Allah (SWT), you would have quickly jumped at the dare.

"That is your statement from your mouth; you imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before you]. May Allah destroy you; how are you deluded?" (refer to Holy Quran 9:30).
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 7:44pm On Apr 28, 2013
^^^^
You love Allah so much and you can invoke him but you cannot take up a challenge based on what you accused me of.

LagosShia: "That is your statement from your mouth; you imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before you]. May Allah destroy you; how are you deluded?" (refer to Holy Quran 9:30).

On the day of Qiyama, we shall, Insha Allah, resolve this.

And I recall the one below
LagosShia:
Dear brother Zhul-Fiqar,
please i want to beg you for the sake of the Imam Ali (as)..
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by LagosShia: 9:11pm On Apr 28, 2013
BetaThings: ^^^^
You love Allah so much and you can invoke him but you cannot take up a challenge based on what you accused me of.

On the day of Qiyama, we shall, Insha Allah, resolve this.

And I recall the one below

we will not see face to face on Qiyama;i am very sure of that based on your words of ignorance,blindness and extremism.you will instead be taken to get your punishment for the deliberate lies and distortions you project to mislead (unsuspecting) people and stubbornly tread the path of destruction.

you will be in the company of abu bakr,umar,usthman,aisha,muawiya,yazeed,etc

while I will (Insha'Allah) be in the company of Muhammad (sa) and Aal (Household) of Muhammad (sa).
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by BetaThings: 9:54am On Apr 29, 2013
LagosShia:

we will not see face to face on Qiyama;i am very sure of that based on your words of ignorance,blindness and extremism.you will instead be taken to get your punishment for the deliberate lies and distortions you project to mislead (unsuspecting) people and stubbornly tread the path of destruction.

you will be in the company of abu bakr,umar,usthman,aisha,muawiya,yazeed,etc

while I will (Insha'Allah) be in the company of Muhammad (sa) and Aal (Household) of Muhammad (sa).

By the mercy of Allh, it is not in your hand. You are indeed in need of guidance. You accuse without reasonable basis and proceed to judge and sentence
Yet you are obviously oblivious of your faults
It is only Allah that has certainty and decrees what will happen to ALL.
But we know that if you are not in the same with ALL the rightly guided caliphs, you are in trouble

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Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by deSika(m): 12:04pm On Apr 29, 2013
LagosShia:

lol...but you see there was an explosion?

and it was not the first Wahhabis have targeted scholars in Syria,shia,sunni and Christian scholars.bouthi happens to be high profile,that even sunnis who support the rebels are ashamed.
u have just bin able to convince us that the wahhabi sunni sect engage in suicide bombing
BetaThings:
so that Beirut bombing by Hezbollah supported by Iran is a sin Just like Boko Haram's acts
Shia first claimed that they don't do suicide bombing When evidence is produced that it is a lie, they now say that it is a halal military strategy You keep shifting your position
u have jsut bin able to convince us that shias engage in suicide bombing.

CONCLUSION: Both Sunnis and Shia engage in suicide bombing and are therefore not peaceful adherents of their religion. by the way were they suicide bombing out self defence

Of course you do Why do you say Ya Ali Madad Somebody that is dead in his grave Here are people posting letters to some Imam dwelling in a well (of all places!), asking (ASKING) the dead by phone from Sunnis say Khidr control the world? Where? Some sunnis don't even agree he is a prophet Now Shirk is a sin? When did Shia creed change to recognise as shirk the practice of beseeching human beings or equating some men in some caves to Allah
so the shias are in the wrong by commiting shirk. you are definitely telling the truth..but people dont easily respond to the truth.. the truth:stop comiting shirk
LagosShia:
and stubbornly tread the path of destruction. you will be in the company of abu bakr,umar,usthman,aisha,muawiya,yazeed,et
wat are u trying to say. that these caliphs and respected muslims tread the path of destruction. are yu for real!!!
Rafidi: I do not criticize for instance Sunni Hamas for conducting suicide bombing or what they call martyrdom operation against Israeli targets.but I criticize book haram for using suicide bombing to target churches,just as I criticize Wahhabis/salafists for using suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Pakistan
wats the difernce between the churches and the israeli targets.. u clearly hate the isrealis wat else is rascism apart from this.


$€£¤deSika..
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by ParisLove2(f): 5:12pm On Apr 29, 2013
Sad story. Rip to the man.

Lagoshia was the man bombed by silly 'peaceful' islamophobias (or whatever you lots call it)? Or by another muslim that just happens to misunderstand the peaceful message of islam? Or was he on the right path as this shia muslim suggests?

Rafidi: I do not criticize for instance Sunni Hamas for conducting suicide bombing or what they call martyrdom operation against Israeli targets.b
Re: Top Pro-assad Sunni Cleric Killed As Suicide Bombing Hits Damascus Mosque by deSika(m): 5:27pm On Apr 29, 2013
Paris-Love:
Sad story. Rip to the man.

Lagoshia was the man bombed by silly 'peaceful' islamophobias (or whatever you lots call it)? Or by another muslim that just happens to misunderstand the peaceful message of islam? Or was he on the right path as this shia muslim suggests?

gud kwesion.

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