LeSulk:
“A girl says nothing. A girl
keeps her mouth closed. No one hears.”
-Jaqen to Arya
Let's follow Jaqen's advice and quit using spoilers .Thanks

olyrayy:
Methinks I like the way stannis is somewhat of a villain. It helps remove sentiment from the show.
This is due to the fact that he is also as bad, if not worse than the Boltons and thus, we won't feel he is entitled to victory.
This thus leaves the viewers with a 'let the best man win' atiitude.


By the way, Forgive my ignorance but Does Arya have any issue with that paedophile?

Ogatitus:


No doubt many folks will not agree with you, but you are spot on: the directors lost it on Stannis.

This twist in the character of Stannis is uncalled for. He has now lost his protagonistic ambience in the hearts of the audience.

Regardless of what the plot is, this "radicalisation" of Stannis is unnecessary. We are now indirectly forced to support the "sick" Ramsay Bolton in the forthcoming battle of Winterfell.

Dragonking:


Despite I like Ramsay, I like stannis more. Stannis has my full support..I hope he conquers the Bolton's.

RamsayBolton:


Come at me bro

gj22:


I agree.

The spoilers is not the problem (mod doing a great job). Its that people are critisizn the writters unfairly.

for example,

After the episode, show watchers came and started criticixn stannis for what he did but book readers came and started criticixn the writers by calling it "bad character development".

We the show watchers understand the character for what he is. But the book readers understand the character IN THE BOOKS so they use that to judge the show character WHICH IS WRONG.

The show watchers judge the characters for eho they are while the book reaaders judge for who they should be,

LeonStark:
The ends/means dilemma is a popular scenario in ethics discussions. Usually, the question goes something like this: “If you could save the world by killing someone, would you do it?” If the answer is “yes,” then a morally right outcome justifies the use of immoral means to achieve it. But there are three different things to consider in such a situation: the morality of the action, the morality of the outcome, and the morality of the person performing the action. In this situation, the action (murder) is clearly immoral and so is the murderer. But saving the world is a good and moral outcome. Or is it? What kind of world is being saved if murderers are allowed to decide when and if murder is justified and then go free? Or does the murderer face punishment for his crime in the world that he has saved? And would the world that was saved be justified in taking the life of the one who had just saved them?And by the way Stannis is not ambitious.

UjSizzle:

This here is the problem.
How do you know those criticizing the character weren't also acting on what they watched, rather than what they read?
I know I wasn't basing anything on the boo and yet someone attacked me.
Let's try and be objective please. If you don't want book spoilers then stop using everything as an excuse to use the B word.

LeSulk:
The Show's producers Beinoff and Weiss have confirmed that it was actually Martin who told them that Shireen will be sacrificed in the upcoming 6th b**k (B-word).B**k Readers who have been lashing out at D & D,will you also lash out at your master,Martin?
www.zap2it.com/blogs/game_of_thrones_showrunners_george_rr_martin_shireen_dies-2015-06

LeSulk:
The Show's producers Beinoff and Weiss have confirmed that it was actually Martin who told them that Shireen will be sacrificed in the upcoming 6th b**k (B-word).B**k Readers who have been lashing out at D & D,will you also lash out at your master,Martin?
www.zap2it.com/blogs/game_of_thrones_showrunners_george_rr_martin_shireen_dies-2015-06

UjSizzle:

Lol yes na. Since the book is apparently a taboo on this thread. Wait, I might even be a taboo on this thread sef having read the book

So maybe we'll outlaw "book" then. Make mention of the B-word or reference it and I'll hide your post and maybe ban you. Then we'll see just how unreasonable all of these really is.

What say you?

LeSulk:
The Show's producers Beinoff and Weiss have confirmed that it was actually Martin who told them that Shireen will be sacrificed in the upcoming 6th b**k (B-word).B**k Readers who have been lashing out at D & D,will you also lash out at your master,Martin?
www.zap2it.com/blogs/game_of_thrones_showrunners_george_rr_martin_shireen_dies-2015-06

adexsimply:

Uhm.. I think that'll be a great idea... And you could even try to erase the book from our head?

UjSizzle:

I find that difficult to believe.
Shireen is at Castle Black.
Stannis is in the North with Melisandre.

So unless people now teleport (not entirely impossible since winchy things have been happening in the series), I don't see how Shireen's sacrifice is going to pan out.

Anyway if that's true, I wont put it past George to find a way to make it happen.

LeSulk:


I get your point,but the sacrifice will still occur.Stannis could still raven the Night's Watch to bring Shireen to camp

LeSulk:
Why do we still believe that Stannis can't really kill his daughter?This same Stannis that didn't think twice before killing his bro,Renly.Stannis is currently under Melisandre's firm control.He is obsessed with this King-at-all-costs mentality and will stop at nothing to sit on the Iron Throne (in his dreams,lol).Stannis may be a principled man but he's definitely not Ned Stark

stanisbaratheon:

a man wants to see the season finale

LeviStark:


Renly was a traitor, and was proposing treason, and although the price was death, Stannis regrets what he did.

LeSulk:
The Show's producers Beinoff and Weiss have confirmed that it was actually Martin who told them that Shireen will be sacrificed in the upcoming 6th b**k (B-word).B**k Readers who have been lashing out at D & D,will you also lash out at your master,Martin?
www.zap2it.com/blogs/game_of_thrones_showrunners_george_rr_martin_shireen_dies-2015-06

Ghost01:
Spoiler alert: Expect Jon's "death" in the Season finale.

Dragonking:


Arya is as clueless as her sister sansa.

LeviStark:


Renly was a traitor, and was proposing treason, and although the price was death, Stannis regrets what he did.