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'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by autofreak2020(m): 5:04am On Apr 06, 2013
An analyst says China
recognizes that the US is using
North Korea’s belligerence to
build up its military presence
as a direct nuclear threat
against China. In the background of this there
has been frightening
escalation of rhetoric and
threats from both North Korea
and the US in the Korean
peninsula. The US military build up in the area includes a
chemical weapons battalion
sent to South Korea and B-2
nuclear capable bombers as
well as F-22 stealth fighter jets
that have participated in drills in the area. North Korea has
reacted to this provocation
saying a nuclear war with the
United States could start at any
time. The US is also
undertaking military drills with the Philippines and Japan has
openly condemned North
Korea’s threats without saying
anything about the provocative
escalation of US actions. Press TV has interviewed Mike
Billington, Executive
Intelligence review, Leesburg
about this issue. The following
is an approximate transcription
of the interview. Press TV: Are we closer to a war between the United States
and North Korea or are we just
closer to a Korean war? Billington: No I don’t think we’re particularly close to a
Korean war. There could be a
spark there, but as I’ve said
many times and as Lyndon La
Rouche has said many times,
we are extremely close to a global nuclear war between
the United States and Russia
and China. "The problem in Korea, is as
the Chinese recognize, is that
the US has taken advantage of
these provocations on both
sides - and there certainly are
North Korean provocations, but there are also numerous US
provocations - They’ve taken
advantage of this for a
significant military build up in
the region, which the Chinese
recognize is a ring around China." It’s of course been going on
since the so-called pivot began,
but this has brought new ABM
systems, ex-band radars and
other heavy offensive
weaponry into play. It’s interesting that Morton
Halperin, a former defense and
security official in several
administrations, yesterday said
at a forum in Washington that
although the US has officially at least pledged to the Russians
that there would not be a first
strike nuclear attack against
Russia’s nuclear capacities - of
course because Russia has a
huge nuclear capacity - So the mutually assured destruction
works. But thus far, according to
Morton Halperin, the US has
never made that pledge to the
Chinese - that we have not in
fact informed them that we
would not launch an attack against their relatively small
nuclear capacity and therefore
the Chinese have very, very
good reason to be concerned
over this use of North Korea to
build up the US military forces there. Press TV: So then, are we entering an era of a cold war in
a sense between China and the
US in the region? Billington: I don’t think it’s that cold. The confrontation
with Russia is actually far more
serious because the US and the
British are insisting that Russia
and China back down from
their absolute refusal to accept the regime change policy in the
Middle East, which has now
been going on from Iraq and
Libya to Syria and very likely to
Iran in the near term. As far as Korea itself goes, this
would be an excellent time to
open talks with North Korea.
The North is open to talks.
What they want is a better
relationship with the United States; to do away with the
armistice, which ended the
Korean war with no peace i.e.
no official peace treaty. But they want a peace treaty,
but it has to be on equal terms
and therefore they make these
kinds of belligerent statements
and they’ve developed their
nuclear weapons - very small scale and incapable of
attacking the United States
despite their statements. "Every body knows that they’re
incapable of launching such an
attack and it would be insane
and suicidal. But they do want talks and they
will not talk on the current
proposal from the US and the
British, which says we’ll only
talk if you agree to give up your
weapons first. They see what happened to
Libya; they see what happened
to Iraq, they’re not going to do
it." But it is an excellent time...
And many in South Korea by
the way agree, including
potentially the new president
Park Geun Hye who wants to
have a basis of trust between North and South Korea.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Nobody: 7:01am On Apr 06, 2013
Oga Jona, do the big brother things, but this time, send BH troops to help whoever with the bigger amount of money to offer, army ain't better than Boko..lol..those guys dey pull weight o..anyway..make dem kill one another, dey know it is wrng bt wanna do it,let it just not cause d 3rd world war.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Nobody: 7:26am On Apr 06, 2013
Parasitic usa, always looking for prosperous nations to feed on, why not focus north korea alone & leave China in peace? China isn't dragging the world power with you people, you don't need to wage war on them to prove your superiority. Mtcheeew... Na inferiority complex D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ worry US if the above news is true.

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Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by UncleJJ(m): 10:14am On Apr 06, 2013
emmysenior: Parasitic usa, always looking for prosperous nations to feed on, why not focus north korea alone & leave China in peace? China isn't dragging the world power with you people, you don't need to wage war on them to prove your superiority. Mtcheeew... Na inferiority complex D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ worry US if the above news is true.

plug this into chrome - cache:www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/01/23/is-chinas-ownership-of-u-s-debt-a-national-security-threat/
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Rossikk(m): 1:00pm On Apr 06, 2013
emmysenior: Parasitic usa, always looking for prosperous nations to feed on, why not focus north korea alone & leave China in peace? China isn't dragging the world power with you people, you don't need to wage war on them to prove your superiority. Mtcheeew... Na inferiority complex D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ worry US if the above news is true.
It's not actually inferiority complex that's worrying them. Their problem is that the rise of China will eclipse US economic dominance, something that would lead to a catastrophic drop in US living standards. The reason the US is so 'mighty' today is that other nations trade in the dollar. Commodities like oil and gas are traded in dollars. This keeps the dollar in great demand and its value artificially high, whereas it should be very low since the US is producing so little, at uncompetitive prices. As China's economy expands and stabilizes at world number 1, other nations will eventually adopt the Chinese currency as the global trading instrument of choice. So an attack on China - a nuclear attack on China - is seen by the Americans as the only way to avert the impending 'disaster'.

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Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by skidos4u(m): 1:53pm On Apr 06, 2013
baba God tnk u 4 a country lik USA. na dem d mak some dictators in d world wu hole d defenceless massess 2 ramson 2 fear small. do we tink d masess in North korean r hapi wit wot der leaders r doing? but der dnt v any choice coz der r defenceless. image d mad man in N/korean alwys boostin dat he wil bomb d S/korean 4 no just cos. US is God's own country n wil alwys continue 2 play der role.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by badassnigga(m): 2:17pm On Apr 06, 2013
skidos4u: baba God tnk u 4 a country lik USA. na dem d mak some dictators in d world wu hole d defenceless massess 2 ramson 2 fear small. do we tink d masess in North korean r hapi wit wot der leaders r doing? but der dnt v any choice coz der r defenceless. image d mad man in N/korean alwys boostin dat he wil bomb d S/korean 4 no just cos. US is God's own country n wil alwys continue 2 play der role.
I cnt help but laugh at ur comments
. for ur information US is d one disturbing d world peace by using propaganda and conspiracy to invade a sovereign country. nearly all d war US has involved itself in lately r unjustifiable. even this Korea imbroglio ...US is not handling it with fairness ...but many analysts know that US has ulterior motives far more than NK

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Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by bookface: 4:04pm On Apr 06, 2013
Rossikk: It's not actually inferiority complex that's worrying them. Their problem is that the rise of China will eclipse US economic dominance, something that would lead to a catastrophic drop in US living standards. The reason the US is so 'mighty' today is that other nations trade in the dollar. Commodities like oil and gas are traded in dollars. This keeps the dollar in great demand and its value artificially high, whereas it should be very low since the US is producing so little, at uncompetitive prices. As China's economy expands and stabilizes at world number 1, other nations will eventually adopt the Chinese currency as the global trading instrument of choice. So an attack on China - a nuclear attack on China - is seen by the Americans as the only way to avert the impending 'disaster'.


So Chinese Policy makers knew the US wants to wage a nuclear war against it in the future and it is not currently stockpiling its nuclear arsenal in huge amount for that D-date? except perhaps, those guys in china don't really know, only this Poster does.

A nuclear war isn't one of those eroti.c scenes you watch on the tv with soap in your hand. Any nuclear war between major powers - NATO, Russia or china will bring a devastating effect that will see more than a quarter of mankind perish, if you don't know this simple stuff, then by all means, i encourage you to stick to the jokes section
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by abubaka101: 6:15pm On Apr 06, 2013
I don't believe the US would want to target China. The repercaussion for that in the face of globalization would be so drastic the US economy, security and social status would suffer all at once.
And even if they hit China using a disguise of some sort, they would still be subjected to all what I stressed above, because there are few countries with nuclear weapons.
Someone correct me if am wrong. I like International Politics.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by autofreak2020(m): 7:33pm On Apr 06, 2013
@abubaka101, for the sake of adding to the body of knowledge. The following are the list of countries that are in possession of nuclear weapon to reinstate your claim.
Rank Country Weapons
1 Russia 13,000
2 United States 9,400
3 France 300
4 China 240
5 United Kingdom 185
6 Israel 100
7 India 70
8 Pakistan 65
9 North Korea <10
Russia still have the highest and largest possession of nuclear weapon. Not only that, they have the highest number of nuclear scientist and technical know-how in the world.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by cap28: 8:09pm On Apr 06, 2013
bookface:


So Chinese Policy makers knew the US wants to wage a nuclear war against it in the future and it is not currently stockpiling its nuclear arsenal in huge amount for that D-date? except perhaps, those guys in china don't really know, only this Poster does.

A nuclear war isn't one of those eroti.c scenes you watch on the tv with soap in your hand. Any nuclear war between major powers - NATO, Russia or china will bring a devastating effect that will see more than a quarter of mankind perish, if you don't know this simple stuff, then by all means, i encourage you to stick to the jokes section

what point are you trying to make here?

China has every right to develop a military defence system and if that means developing nuclear capability to defend its sovereignty - so be it.

the united states is the only nation that has used nuclear weapons against its enemy - they are therefore the loose canons in this whole situation.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by bookface: 9:10pm On Apr 06, 2013
cap28:

what point are you trying to make here?

China has every right to develop a military defence system and if that means developing nuclear capability to defend its sovereignty - so be it.

the united states is the only nation that has used nuclear weapons against its enemy - they are therefore the loose canons in this whole situation.


You clearly haven't read my piece or you may have had trouble understanding it. Where in it did i state that the Chinese do not have a right to develop a nuclear capability?

My point is just a reflection of my frustrations with people who couldn't be bothered to reason their arguments through before attemtping to force their unreasonable logic down the throat of the rest of the world.

Someone says "US to wage Nuke War on China, Russia" another one supports this line of reasoning based on the fact that "US is concerned about Chinese growth and the only way to stop it is to nuke the Chinese" ... Jesus wept! are people such dumb-asses?

If China knows that US has any slight chance of waging a Nuclear war against it in the near future, anyone with half a brain will think Chinese policy makers would be stockpiling on their nuclear arsenal - which they are not, or spending a lot on development of second strike capability - which they are not. China at the moment, seem to be concerned about Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands, if you think someone will nuke you in the near future, you should be doing something else.

People talk about nuclear wars like it is something out of some hollywood fiction. Thank goodness the guys in charge of these nukes don't think like dumbasses. There are several ways to sabotage another country's economy, dropping nukes on them isn't one. What a childish senseless silly thought.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Nobody: 3:33am On Apr 07, 2013
auto_freak2020: @abubaka101, for the sake of adding to the body of knowledge. The following are the list of countries that are in possession of nuclear weapon to reinstate your claim.
Rank Country Weapons
1 Russia 13,000
2 United States 9,400
3 France 300
4 China 240
5 United Kingdom 185
6 Israel 100
7 India 70
8 Pakistan 65
9 North Korea <10

isreal has is estimated to have between 300-500 nuclear warheads. crazy world. US wont attack china but norht korean leadership should not be dumb to start a nuclear war or even a war with the US. they wont live to see the end. just only 2 B-52 and 2 B-2 would do a surgical work from missouri base.
Russia still have the highest and largest possession of nuclear weapon. Not only that, they have the highest number of nuclear scientist and technical know-how in the world.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Blyss: 9:11pm On Apr 07, 2013
auto_freak2020: @abubaka101, for the sake of adding to the body of knowledge. The following are the list of countries that are in possession of nuclear weapon to reinstate your claim.
Rank Country Weapons
1 Russia 13,000
2 United States 9,400
3 France 300
4 China 240
5 United Kingdom 185
6 Israel 100
7 India 70
9 North Korea <10
Russia still have the highest and largest possession of nuclear weapon. Not only that, they have the highest number of nuclear scientist and technical know-how in the world.

Wrong. In 2001 the US had approx 12.000 warheads, and Russia had approx 13,000 warheads. But in 2003, the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty was signed calling for both the US and Russia, to bring the number of Nuclear warheads down to 2,200 each by 2012.

The US reached the goal of 2,200 in 2007, Russia reached the 2,200 mark last year 2012. Now this is, of course, what is told to use by the governments, though in reality they probably still have thousands more in which are not on the books.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by abubaka101: 6:36pm On Apr 09, 2013
auto_freak2020: @abubaka101, for the sake of adding to the body of knowledge. The following are the list of countries that are in possession of nuclear weapon to reinstate your claim.
Rank Country Weapons
1 Russia 13,000
2 United States 9,400
3 France 300
4 China 240
5 United Kingdom 185
6 Israel 100
7 India 70
8 Pakistan 65
9 North Korea <10
Russia still have the highest and largest possession of nuclear weapon. Not only that, they have the highest number of nuclear scientist and technical know-how in the world.
Iran they say has made that list, although no nuclear weapon has been found, yet.
@bookface my thoughts exactly! Why do something so stupid as this? If they nuke China now, who won't point fingers at them? Besides, as u said, nuclear weapons are very sophisticated weapons of mass destruction, (whose impact is unimaginable), and can't/shouldn't be used unless the world has ran out of oppositions when fighting THE major war. No body in his right mind will ever initiate a WMD for such petty reasons as the topic being discussed. Even though economic dominance could be a tempting reason to destroy competition, using WMDs can never be in the proposed plan. Thats how I feel.
Re: 'US To Wage Nuke War On China, Russia. by Dibiachukwu: 11:19pm On Apr 09, 2013
US is working closely with china, Korea and Russia. Russia is deceiving north korea, they wont protect them. If this people fight. It would actually be gud for mankind. Because they are all demons. But they won't. Does a kingdom fight against itself? Don't be fooled, they are merely trying to maintain the illusion of duality. They are the same people.

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