https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6JIPC2Y_jE

Let Sunnis sort out their differences
The Assads have hijacked Syria. Haven't they? Who is speaking against that?
The Sunnis are oppressed in Iran. Is anyone speaking for them?

The conditions of Sunnis in Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lbYrDCDeKc&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Iran is looking for another area of influence
Withh the assiatnce of the US, they brought down the Taliban in Afghanistan
They proceeded to ask America to join hands with them to repeat in Irag, the Afhanistan formula
See Khatami (former Iranian president) in video below, in particular 3.00 - 3.35
Deal done

Next is Saudi Arabia

All the posturing about salafi/wahabii is for the gullible
The agenda of the Shia is political domination. Religion is just a tool/ruse to accomplish that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbHR5-_fXNw

Why do Shias hate Salafis?

Because they ask them to STOP WORShIPPING GRAVES

This video is full of lessons. Everyone should try and watch it to truly understand the issues.

If you are in a hurry
See 6.30 on what the powers of Shia Immam are supposed to be

Look at 9.00 where an Ayatollah is praying to and asking Ali, alone and no one else


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuc9tXdCJ2s&NR=1&feature=endscreen

BetaThings u should be called correctThings

BetaThings: Iran is looking for another area of influence
Withh the assiatnce of the US, they brought down the Taliban in Afghanistan
They proceeded to ask America to join hands with them to repeat in Irag, the Afhanistan formula
See Khatami (former Iranian president) in below
Deal done
Next is Saudi Arabia

All the posturing about salafi/wahabii is posturing
The agenda of the Shia is political domination. Religion is just a tool to accomplish that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbHR5-_fXNw

You too good, iran is just reminiscing over their lost empire that Umar r.a vanguished as predicted by prophet Muhammad pbuh, may Allah protect the ummah from the plots of leaders of kufr and munafiq and muslims who sole aim in life is POWER! Amin

vedaxcool: You too good, iran is just reminiscing over their lost empire that Umar r.a vanguished as predicted by prophet Muhammad pbuh, may Allah protect the ummah from the plots of leaders of kufr and munafiq and muslims who sole aim in life is POWER! Amin

Amin

Salaam,

Actually there is a video of that story on youtube (Why we hate Umar bin Khatab). An Iranian Shia scholar admitted that they hate Umar (RA) and concocted those lies against him because he (RA) defeated the Iranians and treated them badly (I really don't support ill treatment of the people who were defeated). But as Muslims, we should not allow personal desires push us to lie telling.

We should relate truthfully the actual wicked acts done by anyone and that would still be from good deeds.

May Allah keep us firm on the truth and guidance.

chei!

Sunnis and lies.followers of satan.so Ahmadinejad meeting rabbis of the anti-Zionist and anti-Israel jewish organization,Neturei Karta,means he "loves" Jews to imply he loves Israel and america? neturei karta is opposed to Israel and America's support for Israel to kill and eliminate the sunni Palestinians.

iran gave over 300 million dollars aid and also weapons to sunni Hamas,and that sunni clown painting his beards orange,says that is nothing and it is to "profit".how much ungrateful can Sunnis get? Sunnis have killed Shia more than Christians and jews have.so if you see the shia as enemies,that is your headache.your sunni preachers are calling for makkah and medina to be freed from wahhabis,and all you could do is to spread propaganda videos against iran and the shia.how honorable of you.if this is what you've gained in being sunni,i $h*t on you and your sunnism.

and ofcourse the the BS that sunnis do not have a mosque in Tehran.in iran muslims can pray in any mosque and Iranians refuse to tag mosques as "sunni" or "shia".in an area there is a majority sunni population,the mosque is administered by sunnis.and where there is shia majority,the mosque is administered by shia.iran is over 90% shia.check how the 25% shia in Saudi Arabia are maltreated,oppressed and killed.

in Afghanistan,iran would naturally tell its ally the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban,because of what the Taliban did to the Iranian diplomats and the shia of mazar al-sharif.the Taliban and al-Qaeda committed genocide against the shia in Afghanistan.(today the Taliban is committing genocide against shia in Pakistan).that by no way means Iran is subservient to American policies or allied with the USA,as Wahhabi/salafist Saudi Arabia and Qatar and sunni turkey are allied with and subservient to American and Israeli dictates.it simply means Iranian interests are in favor of the removal of the Taliban.the same goes with saddam.saddam was supported for 8 years to fight Iran by the western countries.so when those who helped saddam against iran,finally want to remove saddam from power,what do you expect iran to do? support saddam? well sunnis don't have sense.i don't expect you to be wise.how can a follower of abu sufyan and umar and yazid be wise? jahiliyah,jahiliyah,jahiliyyah!!!

Iraq is a majority shia country and the majority in any democracy has the right to rule.the shia got power in Iraq after the American invasion not because the USA loves the shia or iran,but because reality dictates that.after some years,today there is no more American occupation in Iraq.all American soldiers have left after iran insisted they leave and the Iraqi shia staged attacks.but up to this day,there are American troops in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia since the gulf war in 1990.

if iran sponsors sunni Palestinians,sunnis don't appreciate.

if iran fights for its interests,sunnis nag.

if iran demands America leaves Iraq,while the americans are in Saudi Arabia,sunnis say America is "protecting" Saudi Arabia from iran.

shia get power in Iraq,sunnis say America is collaborating with the shia.

please make up your mind!!! things are not always black and white in politics;however iran has principles and its ideology it follows,while sunni countries (especially in the middle east) are less than beggars and puppets to the western countries.you sometimes have to read between the lines.but I am not surprised with sunnis lying and you a confirmed liar spreading the lies.you should check who is America's number one ally in the middle east-Wahhabi Saudi Arabia!!! who is the number enemy of (shia) muslims,christians and humanity everywhere-Wahhabis!!! when Wahhabis and americans clash,iran will naturally choose what suit its interests.

Rafidi :
chei!

Sunnis and lies.followers of satan.so Ahmadinejad meeting rabbis of the anti-Zionist and anti-Israel jewish organization,Neturei Karta,means he "loves" Jews to imply he loves Israel and america? neturei karta is opposed to Israel and America's support for Israel to kill and eliminate the sunni Palestinians.

iran gave over 300 million dollars aid and also weapons to sunni Hamas,and that sunni clown painting his beards orange,says that is nothing and it is to "profit".how much ungrateful can Sunnis get? Sunnis have killed Shia more than Christians and jews have.so if you see the shia as enemies,that is your headache.your sunni preachers are calling for makkah and medina to be freed from wahhabis,and all you could do is to spread propaganda videos against iran and the shia.how honorable of you.if this is what you've gained in being sunni,i $h*t on you and your sunnism.

and ofcourse the the BS that sunnis do not have a mosque in Tehran.in iran muslims can pray in any mosque and Iranians refuse to tag mosques as "sunni" or "shia".in an area there is a majority sunni population,the mosque is administered by sunnis.and where there is shia majority,the mosque is administered by shia.iran is over 90% shia.check how the 25% shia in Saudi Arabia are maltreated,oppressed and killed.

in Afghanistan,iran would naturally tell its ally the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban,because of what the Taliban did to the Iranian diplomats and the shia of mazar al-sharif.the Taliban and al-Qaeda committed genocide against the shia in Afghanistan.(today the Taliban is committing genocide against shia in Pakistan).that by no way means Iran is subservient to American policies or allied with the USA,as Wahhabi/salafist Saudi Arabia and Qatar and sunni turkey are allied with and subservient to American and Israeli dictates.it simply means Iranian interests are in favor of the removal of the Taliban.the same goes with saddam.saddam was supported for 8 years to fight Iran by the western countries.so when those who helped saddam against iran,finally want to remove saddam from power,what do you expect iran to do? support saddam? well sunnis don't have sense.i don't expect you to be wise.how can a follower of abu sufyan and umar and yazid be wise? jahiliyah,jahiliyah,jahiliyyah!!!

Iraq is a majority shia country and the majority in any democracy has the right to rule.the shia got power in Iraq after the American invasion not because the USA loves the shia or iran,but because reality dictates that.after some years,today there is no more American occupation in Iraq.all American soldiers have left after iran insisted they leave and the Iraqi shia staged attacks.but up to this day,there are American troops in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia since the gulf war in 1990.

if iran sponsors sunni Palestinians,sunnis don't appreciate.

if iran fights for its interests,sunnis nag.

if iran demands America leaves Iraq,while the americans are in Saudi Arabia,sunnis say America is "protecting" Saudi Arabia from iran.

shia get power in Iraq,sunnis say America is collaborating with the shia.

please make up your mind!!! things are not always black and white in politics;however iran has principles and its ideology it follows,while sunni countries (especially in the middle east) are less than beggars and puppets to the western countries.you sometimes have to read between the lines.but I am not surprised with sunnis lying and you a confirmed liar spreading the lies.you should check who is America's number one ally in the middle east-Wahhabi Saudi Arabia!!! who is the number enemy of (shia) muslims,christians and humanity everywhere-Wahhabis!!! when Wahhabis and americans clash,iran will naturally choose what suit its interests.

well said.

I have seen his comic posts since he posted them,but I refused to reply him.no need to waste my time with people who choose to be silly.he is better left ignored.

Rafidi :
chei!

Sunnis and lies.followers of satan.so Ahmadinejad meeting rabbis of the anti-Zionist and anti-Israel jewish organization,Neturei Karta,means he "loves" Jews to imply he loves Israel and america? neturei karta is opposed to Israel and America's support for Israel to kill and eliminate the sunni Palestinians.

So it is compulsory to receive enemies that you have told us must be destroyed?

Rafidi :

iran gave over 300 million dollars aid and also weapons to sunni Hamas,and that sunni clown painting his beards orange,says that is nothing and it is to "profit".how much ungrateful can Sunnis get? Sunnis have killed Shia more than Christians and jews have.so if you see the shia as enemies,that is your headache.your sunni preachers are calling for makkah and medina to be freed from wahhabis,and all you could do is to spread propaganda videos against iran and the shia.how honorable of you.if this is what you've gained in being sunni,i $h*t on you and your sunnism.

Grateful? How? Because of that bribe? You kill Sunnis and keep it quiet while the Al Qaeda terrorists are loud mouthed?
You started propaganda videos. Why should others not emulate your enviable practice

Rafidi :

and ofcourse the the BS that sunnis do not have a mosque in Tehran.in iran muslims can pray in any mosque and Iranians refuse to tag mosques as "sunni" or "shia".in an area there is a majority sunni population,the mosque is administered by sunnis.and where there is shia majority,the mosque is administered by shia.iran is over 90% shia.check how the 25% shia in Saudi Arabia are maltreated,oppressed and killed.

Sunnis are by your defintion not Muslims. It is clear in your books (the highly regarded Al Kafi among others) that whoever do not believe in the imamate and claims to be a muslim is a kafoir and should be executed.

Wherever you are in the minority, you favour segregation; where you are in the majority you want to wipe out the minority sunni by dictating activities at the mosques and impose your doctrines on them. Shias don't like to pray behind sunnis. They regard it as nawafil. So you virtually force Sunnis not to really pray when they are not allowed to hold their own sessions

Rafidi :

in Afghanistan,iran would naturally tell its ally the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban,because of what the Taliban did to the Iranian diplomats and the shia of mazar al-sharif.the Taliban and al-Qaeda committed genocide against the shia in Afghanistan.(today the Taliban is committing genocide against shia in Pakistan).that by no way means Iran is subservient to American policies or allied with the USA,as Wahhabi/salafist Saudi Arabia and Qatar and sunni turkey are allied with and subservient to American and Israeli dictates.

You have very strange friends. And you have established a template. Regime change wherever you are not control

Rafidi :

it simply means Iranian interests are in favor of the removal of the Taliban.the same goes with saddam.saddam was supported for 8 years to fight Iran by the western countries.so when those who helped saddam against iran,finally want to remove saddam from power,what do you expect iran to do? support saddam? well sunnis don't have sense.i don't expect you to be wise.how can a follower of abu sufyan and umar and yazid be wise? jahiliyah,jahiliyah,jahiliyyah!!!

Amantu Billahi wa Rasuli Hi
I am also a follower of Ali (RA) or that also makes me a Jahili? Hahaha.
And we know you will like to fish out the likes of me and rid yourself of this petty irritation. I am preparing my neck

BTW why do you just want to exclude people from Jannah by force? Why don't you even wait till the day of Qiyama? We remember that you guys strived hard to ensure that Saddam did not make Shahada at the point of death. You should really have allowed him, having executed him. Allah is not powerless

No. You should have shown forgiveness to Saddam. It would have sent a powerful message. I have seen you guys relate stories of compassion from your Imams. Why are you not like them? Why?

Rafidi :

Iraq is a majority shia country and the majority in any democracy has the right to rule.the shia got power in Iraq after the American invasion not because the USA loves the shia or iran,but because reality dictates that.after some years,today there is no more American occupation in Iraq.all American soldiers have left after iran insisted they leave and the Iraqi shia staged attacks.but up to this day,there are American troops in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia since the gulf war in 1990.

No sunni country is threatening Iraq. But you have your eyes on Saudi Arabia. You guys just want to match in!

BTW Syria is a major sunni country! When will democracy bring majority rule?

Rafidi :

if iran sponsors sunni Palestinians,sunnis don't appreciate.

if iran fights for its interests,sunnis nag.

if iran demands America leaves Iraq,while the americans are in Saudi Arabia,sunnis say America is "protecting" Saudi Arabia from iran.

shia get power in Iraq,sunnis say America is collaborating with the shia.

please make up your mind!!! things are not always black and white in politics;

Our minds are made up. These are greek gifts. When you stop undermining Islam, we will trust you
And your ferocity in Syria while making Shahada to Assad (yes it is on tape) is noted

Rafidi :

however iran has principles and its ideology it follows,while sunni countries (especially in the middle east) are less than beggars and puppets to the western countries.you sometimes have to read between the lines.but I am not surprised with sunnis lying and you a confirmed liar spreading the lies.you should check who is America's number one ally in the middle east-Wahhabi Saudi Arabia!!! who is the number enemy of (shia) muslims,christians and humanity everywhere-Wahhabis!!! when Wahhabis and americans clash,iran will naturally choose what suit its interests.

I am a confirmed liar? Hahahah. What an achievement. I am recognised by a Shia
BTW did I saw lie when I said the US was instrumental in toppling Mussediq? Make your mind too!!!

While posturing to be holding out and playing hard ball in 1979, your guys were in cahoots with Reagan
Same way they delivered hostages to Chiraq after getting rid of Mitterand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHXKeQlQiw

BetaThings:

So it is compulsory to receive enemies that you have told us must be destroyed?

Iran or the Shia have never declared the jews as a people to be "enemies".iran like all muslims (sunni and shia) have a problem with Zionism.unfortunately majority of jews are Zionists.neturei karta is anti-Zionist.

the Shia do not believe we should fight or eliminate others from other religions,simply because they hold beliefs contrary or different to ours.Islam promotes self-defense and also tolerance and co-existence even with non-believers.we Shia Muslims are not like the Wahhabis who blow up themselves in Churches and Shia places of worship to kill innocent lives for belonging to other faiths.when last did a Shia blow himself in a Church? never!!! we Shia Muslims are simply against aggressors who kill and fight against Islam and Muslims.

You kill Sunnis and keep it quiet while the Al Qaeda terrorists are loud mouthed?

where?

Sunnis are by your defintion not Muslims.

not true.

sunnis themselves are not a homogenous group.the OP started a thread on mainstream sunnis asking Wahhabi/salafist Sunnis to leave Makkah and Medina.you are here making the topic a sunni vs shia issue.which sunni are you talking about? is it the extremist and terrorist salafist/Wahhabis? or the mainstream sunni? or the sufi sunnis who are also targeted by the Wahhabis?

It is clear in your books (the highly regarded Al Kafi among others) that whoever do not believe in the imamate and claims to be a muslim is a kafoir and should be executed.

false.

Wherever you are in the minority, you favour segregation; where you are in the majority you want to wipe out the minority sunni by dictating activities at the mosques and impose your doctrines on them. Shias don't like to pray behind sunnis. They regard it as nawafil. So you virtually force Sunnis not to really pray when they are not allowed to hold their own sessions

pray on your own.you are not obliged to pray behind a shia imam even if the mosque is administered by shias,and vice versa. we do not impose our doctrine on anyone.we do not even believe in jihad or the sword to spread Islam,as sunnis glorifying their early caliphs for doing that."there is no compulsion in religion".

Amantu Billahi wa Rasuli Hi
I am also a follower of Ali (RA) or that also makes me a Jahili? Hahaha.
And we know you will like to fish out the likes of me and rid yourself of this petty irritation. I am preparing my neck

nonsense.

look at who is killing who:

Shia Genocide in Pakistan
https://www.nairaland.com/1120418/genocide-shia-muslims-pakistan

A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims
https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia/1

BTW why do you just want to exclude people from Jannah by force? Why don't you even wait till the day of Qiyama? We remember that you guys strived hard to ensure that Saddam did not make Shahada at the point of death. You should really have allowed him, having executed him. Allah is not powerless

No. You should have shown forgiveness to Saddam. It would have sent a powerful message. I have seen you guys relate stories of compassion from your Imams. Why are you not like them? Why?

compassion to an unrepentant criminal against humanity? if he would have pleaded guilty and begged for forgiveness,it would have been another story.

you know saddam who is now an hero to sunni arabs,also gas-ed the sunni kurds?

you just talk for the sake of it.or perhaps you're testing your allegiance to your faith to see how true or false it is;that is welcome.

No sunni country is threatening Iraq. But you have your eyes on Saudi Arabia. You guys just want to match in!

no one is threatening Saudi Arabia.iran isn't threatening an invasion of Saudi Arabia.iran is simply saying there are Saudi shias who are oppressed and victimized.they should be given their rights and treated with dignity as equal citizens.if any change is to come in Saudi Arabia,it is the Saudis who will decide that by themselves.and if or when they do,that would be a welcome development.you don't accept tyranny upon yourself because freeing yourself from the bondage of the tyrant will also free your "enemy".that is cruel.you accept the tyranny of the al-saud even upon sunnis in Saudi Arabia because the fall of the al-saud clan will bring freedom and change to the shia of Arabia.

it was reported that the Saudi king was the one urging the US to attack iran.can you see the cowardice and hypocrisy? iran simply wants friendly governments around the world that doesn't follow western dictates against the Islamic republic.iran wants fair treatment and the right to survive against western imperialism and schemes.

BTW Syria is a major sunni country! When will democracy bring majority rule?

let the west and its Saudi,qatari and Turkish puppets stop send foreign terrorists into Syria,and allow the Syrian people to vote in a free and fair election.more than half of Syria's 50% sunni arabs will vote for bashar.the sunni kurds who make about 20% will also vote for bashar.the 15-20% shia,druze,ismaili and alawites and 10 percent Christians will also vote for bashar.the rule of bashar al-assad in Syria,economy-wise and even in terms of political and religious freedom,is many times better than Saudi Arabia and even turkey.

Our minds are made up. These are greek gifts. When you stop undermining Islam, we will trust you
And your ferocity in Syria while making Shahada to Assad (yes it is on tape) is noted

I am a confirmed liar? Hahahah. What an achievement. I am recognised by a Shia
BTW did I saw lie when I said the US was instrumental in toppling Mussediq? Make your mind too!!!

I don't have to make up my mind.i know iran and the USA are rivals to say the least.but if their interests cross,then that is a different topic.

you need to make up your mind.so you know the US toppled Mossadeq? and you accuse the Islamic republic of iran of having an alliance with the usa in your sunni conspiracy theory aka Wahhabi/salafist hallucination!

While posturing to be holding out and playing hard ball in 1979, your guys were in cahoots with Reagan
Same way they delivered hostages to Chiraq after getting rid of Mitterand

iran held hostages of the American embassy.and they saw that delaying their release till after the election will force americans to vote against their incumbent president.that is a win-win situation for iran.it doesn't mean either that iran loved Reagan.the same thing with france.delaying the release of the French hostages in Beirut ensured that a franch president lost his re-election bid.another win-win situation.you should admire iran and the shia for their pragmatism and wisdom instead of behaving like a loser and hating all the time.i know you feel sad its the shia impressing and not sunnis,but you have no choice about the matter.you either continue hating or you give up and admit the truth.

Rafidi :

Iran or the Shia have never declared the jews as a people to be "enemies".iran like all muslims (sunni and shia) have a problem with Zionism.unfortunately majority of jews are Zionists.neturei karta is anti-Zionist.

the Shia do not believe we should fight or eliminate others from other religions,simply because they hold beliefs contrary or different to ours.Islam promotes self-defense and also tolerance and co-existence even with non-believers.we Shia Muslims are not like the Wahhabis who blow up themselves in Churches and Shia places of worship to kill innocent lives for belonging to other faiths.when last did a Shia blow himself in a Church? never!!! we Shia Muslims are simply against aggressors who kill and fight against Islam and Muslims.

Ahamdinajad has repeatedly said Israel should be destroyed
I don't love Israel But saying a whole nation should be destroyed is too much. What happens to people like Miko Peled
http://www.france24.com/en/20120817-iran-ahmadinejad-slams-cancerous-tumour-israel-nuclear-war-protest-zionist

Rafidi :

where?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD8MoSFO44k

Rafidi :

not true.
false.

Hahahaha

al-Kafi vol.6 p.393
"[size=10pt]Doubt about the Imamate of 'Ali is like doubt about the mission of Muhammad SAWS and one who doubts both should be killed if possible[/size], if he claims to be a Muslim. On the other hand, disbelievers are like the Jews and Christians and should not be killed for these reasons." (al-Kafi vol.6 p.393)

Rafidi :

sunnis themselves are not a homogenous group.the OP started a thread on mainstream sunnis asking Wahhabi/salafist Sunnis to leave Makkah and Medina.you are here making the topic a sunni vs shia issue.which sunni are you talking about? is it the extremist and terrorist salafist/Wahhabis? or the mainstream sunni? or the sufi sunnis who are also targeted by the Wahhabis?

I don't need to talk about Zaydis, Ismailis, twelvers (so you too are not homogenous in shiism)

I am talking about Sunnis. Leave them to sort themselves out. The Op is interested in divide and conquer of Sunnis.
And the guy talking in that video does not make sense to me. Some people should go to the desert so that he, a non-native of Saudi peninsula, can come in. strange proposition. And it is always grave worshippers that make these complaints. Will hanbalis from other countries make the same complaints about SA?

Incidentally if muslims are supposed to be one in Iran, why do you keep dividing outside Iran?

How many people talk about wahhabis in Nigeria? How many people encourage suicide bombing in Saudi Arabia? the Saudis cannot even support because they have been victim of it at both personal and national levels
The leading scholars you would call Salafis - Albanee, bin Baz, Uthaymin who all died even before 911 - did not support suicide bombing

We have Iranians on tape saying that Hezbollah did the Beirut suicide bombing with their support

Rafidi :

pray on your own.you are not obliged to pray behind a shia imam even if the mosque is administered by shias,and vice versa. we do not impose our doctrine on anyone.we do not even believe in jihad or the sword to spread Islam,as sunnis glorifying their early caliphs for doing that."there is no compulsion in religion".

Of course I am not so obliged to pray behind a Shia Imam. But I am not permitted to hold my own congregational prayer
What you believe keep changing anyway.

Rafidi :

nonsense.

Rafidi :

look at who is killing who:

You guys have a well-oiled propaganda machine. Like I always say Goebbels could have learnt from you

[quote author=Rafidi ]
compassion to an unrepentant criminal against humanity? if he would have pleaded guilty and begged for forgiveness,it would have been another story.

Hahahaha. If he had begged, you would still have killed him and gleefully publicised his pleadings as someone grovelling
You keep repeating everywhere that Umar (RA) did this or that to the Prophet (SAW) who must have forgiven him (RA). So if the aggrieved party (SAW) did not expel Umar (RA), why do you keep talking about it? Did the Prophet (SAW) not know what he was doing?
I am saying this because you guys don't forgive
You only stir hatred with passionate speeches about injustice

[quote author=Rafidi ]
you know saddam who is now an hero to sunni arabs,also gas-ed the sunni kurds?

Hero? For doing what? Did he set up a model Islamic state or what?
You only see black or white. Nothing exists in-between. Allowing Allah to decide a man's fate is not forgetting his misdeeds. You need to learn that.

Rafidi :

you just talk for the sake of it.or perhaps you're testing your allegiance to your faith to see how true or false it is;that is welcome.

I don't need to justify ANYTHING to YOU! I am not looking for commendation or approval from YOU! I act according to my conscience which incidentally ask of me - be a witness to Justice. I don't believe that Christians love Muslims. Not with the wicked lies they tell against us. But I will not keep quiet if a Muslim oppresses a Christian.

Rafidi :

no one is threatening Saudi Arabia.iran isn't threatening an invasion of Saudi Arabia.iran is simply saying there are Saudi shias who are oppressed and victimized.they should be given their rights and treated with dignity as equal citizens.if any change is to come in Saudi Arabia,it is the Saudis who will decide that by themselves.and if or when they do,that would be a welcome development.you don't accept tyranny upon yourself because freeing yourself from the bondage of the tyrant will also free your "enemy".that is cruel.you accept the tyranny of the al-saud even upon sunnis in Saudi Arabia because the fall of the al-saud clan will bring freedom and change to the shia of Arabia.

When a country with a well resourced army calls the leadership of another small country illegal country, nothing more needs to be said. How you always want to right the "wrongs" of all time baffles me
You are talking like western diplomats. How many times have I heard of the Iraqi people, Iranian people, Nigerian people? Have you ever believed that they just withdraw and don't manipulate things?

Rafidi :

it was reported that the Saudi king was the one urging the US to attack iran.can you see the cowardice and hypocrisy? iran simply wants friendly governments around the world that doesn't follow western dictates against the Islamic republic.iran wants fair treatment and the right to survive against western imperialism and schemes.

I will not comment on what I am not sure of! "It was reported"

Rafidi :

let the west and its Saudi,qatari and Turkish puppets stop send foreign terrorists into Syria,and allow the Syrian people to vote in a free and fair election.more than half of Syria's 50% sunni arabs will vote for bashar.the sunni kurds who make about 20% will also vote for bashar.the 15-20% shia,druze,ismaili and alawites and 10 percent Christians will also vote for bashar.the rule of bashar al-assad in Syria,economy-wise and even in terms of political and religious freedom,is many times better than Saudi Arabia and even turkey.

Hahaha. I love how you mark scripts! Let us look at GDP, total and per capita, where Syria comes last!
Suddenly everyone is a puppet. And Maliki is not your puppet? Assad? Please save us some of these needless speculations

Rafidi :

I don't have to make up my mind.i know iran and the USA are rivals to say the least.but if their interests cross,then that is a different topic.

you need to make up your mind.so you know the US toppled Mossadeq? and you accuse the Islamic republic of iran of having an alliance with the usa in your sunni conspiracy theory aka Wahhabi/salafist hallucination!

So it is not clear that my mind is made up? Iran is not trustworthy. It will work against any other country (Muslim or not) to further its interests.
Why do you think that only Shias have access to books? I am even surprised at your question. When I mentioned the matter when Christians were savaging Iran, you were not surprised
Do you think Iran is a paragon of virtues too?

Rafidi :

iran held hostages of the American embassy.and they saw that delaying their release till after the election will force americans to vote against their incumbent president.that is a win-win situation for iran.it doesn't mean either that iran loved Reagan.the same thing with france.delaying the release of the French hostages in Beirut ensured that a franch president lost his re-election bid.another win-win situation.you should admire iran and the shia for their pragmatism and wisdom instead of behaving like a loser and hating all the time.i know you feel sad its the shia impressing and not sunnis,but you have no choice about the matter.you either continue hating or you give up and admit the truth.

Hahahah. What tickles you is not what impresses me! a win-win situation that personally I don't like
You may love the strategy, but personally I don't
Take a look at history - some stratagem come back to haunt people

BetaThings:

Ahamdinajad has repeatedly said Israel should be destroyed
I don't love Israel But saying a whole nation should be destroyed is too much. What happens to people like Miko Peled
http://www.france24.com/en/20120817-iran-ahmadinejad-slams-cancerous-tumour-israel-nuclear-war-protest-zionist

really I felt reluctant to reply your post because most of it is built on either lack of knowledge or you bid to confuse things up since you cant convince me.

let us assume Ahmadinejad said he would wipe Israel off the map,does that mean he would wipe Israel because he "hates" jews? at least try to be consistent with yourself.you just posted a video showing Ahmadinejad with (neturei karta anti-Zionist) jews,and you wanted to lable the Shia as "allies" of the jews.now you want to accuse the Shia of being hateful of the jews.you cant have it both ways.and seriously would I be wasting my time replying to such nonsense?

in reality Ahmadinejad never said Israel should be wiped off the map.the western media mistranslated or misquoted Ahmadinejad.and ever since then,they kept on repeating that lie to use as propaganda in Israel's favor.below is the deputy Israeli PM admitting Ahmadinejad was misquoted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZmffEQmKr8

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD8MoSFO44k

get real please.terrorists are fighting in Syria.civil war is happening in Syria between two political divides: pro and anti-government.it has nothing to do with Shi'ism.

I shouldn't reply to such nonsense from al-safa tv.its because I believe that by you presenting such material you're ignorant of the truth.

al-safa tv has called for the Sayyida Zainab (as) shrine to be demolished,and the area called "Sayyida Zainab" be renamed in honor of yazeed.

please do you support naming an area in a muslim land in honor of yazeed? yes or no?

I don't need to talk about Zaydis, Ismailis, twelvers (so you too are not homogenous in shiism)

Shia Islam has offshoot sects just like Sunnism also does.the alawites of Syria are an offshoot sect as well.but today when you hear the word "Shia",it refers to the followers of 12 Imams (as),who are also called with the following names: twelver,Ja'fari,imamiyyah,ithna-ashariyyah. in Shia Islam,we only have one school of thought or jurisprudence (fiqh).that school is called the Ja'fari madhab.Sunnis have four schools,aside from the sub-sects or offshoot sects,and movements like the Wahhabis/salafists in their midst.

I am talking about Sunnis. Leave them to sort themselves out. The Op is interested in divide and conquer of Sunnis.
And the guy talking in that video does not make sense to me. Some people should go to the desert so that he, a non-native of Saudi peninsula, can come in. strange proposition. And it is always grave worshippers that make these complaints. Will hanbalis from other countries make the same complaints about SA?

you're the grave worshipper.and may Allah curse you for that.

you lie a lot.that is sunnism.you don't fear Allah (swt) before you point finger based on your assumptions,ignorance,filth,and doubts.you're silly people.this is not Islam you're following.you can pray and fast and grow your beards all you like.but you lack the essence of Islam which is sincere submission to the will of God.

Incidentally if muslims are supposed to be one in Iran, why do you keep dividing outside Iran?

we are not one.and we don't even want to be one with falsehood.how can we be one with headchopping and suicide bombing salafists/Wahhabis?

How many people talk about wahhabis in Nigeria? How many people encourage suicide bombing in Saudi Arabia? the Saudis cannot even support because they have been victim of it at both personal and national levels
The leading scholars you would call Salafis - Albanee, bin Baz, Uthaymin who all died even before 911 - did not support suicide bombing

We have Iranians on tape saying that Hezbollah did the Beirut suicide bombing with their support

members who later joined Hezbollah are said to have being involved.also Palestinians were involved,and they are sunnis.

it is not a matter of suicide bombing or jumping from a 100 storey building.its about who is your target.the bombings in Beirut targeted American and French troops,and those were seen as occupation forces interfering in the affairs of another country.the American embassy too was influencing and fueling the Lebanese civil war through its network of spies to the advantage of pro-Israel sympathizers.

the fact remains I do not criticize for instance Sunni Hamas for conducting suicide bombing or what they call martyrdom operation against Israeli targets.but I criticize book haram for using suicide bombing to target churches,just as I criticize Wahhabis/salafists for using suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Pakistan.

the point is the Wahhabis/salafists have given Israel a justification to tarnish the reputation of its opponents.wahhabi/salafist terrorists are doing harm to the cause of the Palestinians.now anyone who fights Israel,even if its a sunni exploding himself at an Israeli checkpoint,israel is quick to point out that the attack was carried out by a "suicide bomber".it is now synonymous with terrorism.before,sunni Palestinians and shia Lebanese attack Israel using martyrdom or suicide bombing,and it was not synonymous with terrorism or attacking civilians for their different beliefs.wahhabi terrorists have done harm to the image of muslims and their legitimate cause in Palestine.they have done a great favor to Israel.and remember you are talking here of oppressed and victimized Palestinians whose land is stolen and are overpowered by Israel's superior firepower,and the Palestinians seek ways to defend themselves and inflict loss upon their enemy.the Palestinians seek suicide bombing because they are dying anyways,so let them die while defending themselves and inflicting loss upon the enemy.according to Sheikh Ahmad Yassin,he said when Palestinians have planes and sophisticated weapons to defend themselves,they will have no need to resort to a tactic like suicide bombing.Sheikh Yassin was a (non-wahhabi) Sunni.hear him talk before his assassination on his wheelchair:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvnXR_X-TX0