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|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by tubolancer(m): 3:31am On Apr 09, 2013|
ShymmexLion: Mi bomboclart queen fi love dem Afrikan men yanoe.pass me the ganja.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:18am On Apr 09, 2013|
Thank You very much Messrs. just doing my duty towards an upholder of our faith and culture.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by CaptainGo: 9:14am On Apr 09, 2013|
Okija_juju: That Oba is a Biitchass!!
There are a couple of things they won't teach u in school. Consciously make efforts to be smart.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Okijajuju1(m): 9:21am On Apr 09, 2013|
Thanks for responding...
I still think your Oba acted like a little biitchass Nigga!!
The Queen will not even help him book a taxi in the U.K let alone come to the airport to pick him up.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Soloblincus(m): 11:21am On Apr 09, 2013|
Okija_juju: White men bowing to Idi Aminlol, idi ami na their mate?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Damoche10: 12:02pm On Apr 09, 2013|
That was Obafemi Awolowo at the back of the picture....
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by ezotik: 12:58pm On Apr 09, 2013|
kai, internet good sha coz e no get how that ur mouth for not at least chop slaps for dis ur idiotic comments.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by adoniza(m): 1:54pm On Apr 09, 2013|
plasgidy: this oba atire is among why the oyibo dey see us like say we come from venus or jupiter, how can he rap him self with that beans bags in such a hot weather, we jacky self na waooo.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by adoniza(m): 2:05pm On Apr 09, 2013|
Soloblincus: lol, idi ami na their mate?
what is going on here?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by dealslip(f): 2:45pm On Apr 09, 2013|
Is that shaki on baba awo's shoulders? Never new he was an ogboni fraternity member.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by bukatyne(f): 4:49pm On Apr 09, 2013|
She also bowed to him too
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by bukatyne(f): 4:53pm On Apr 09, 2013|
isale_gan2: It is too bad the Omo N'Oba bowed, but what do we expect; those racist colonial bastards tried to do away with that kingdom and many others.
What does the bolded mean?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by MacLovington(m): 5:20pm On Apr 09, 2013|
Thank you for trying to educate people that A WHOLE EDUCATION SYSTEM has failed to educate. I hope your effort won't be in vain. The sight of the royal regalia is impressive. It has impressed Europeans for over 500yrs so much that they even looted it in 1897.
Not everybody has a formidable and world-renowned history, so no wonder if envy is causing jealousy which is now manifest in derogatory comments.
I respect royal institutions and I can never say bad things about any King or Queen, dead or alive. But then that may be because I love history and value my culture and traditions albeit their imperfections.
Some have no culture let alone one to respect or value.
PhysicsQED: Just now seeing this thread. I have to say that I am surprised at the number of derogatory comments about the late Oba Akenzua II's attire.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Babzilla: 8:42pm On Apr 09, 2013|
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by eokocha: 10:33pm On Apr 09, 2013|
Menhh that babe better remove that glove and shake a mans hand. Was too happy when michelle obama shook her hand!
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Crayola1: 11:03pm On Apr 09, 2013|
I'm not a fan of the outfit but its someone's culture and people should be mindful of that and not be so insensitive.
The black and white probably did the outfit no favors, making it look more like netting than beads.
There the dressing of the 3 main groups of Nigeria
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Crayola1: 11:22pm On Apr 09, 2013|
The Yoruba ones didn't show up Weird. What are Kings called in the SW again, Obas seem to not give that many pictures?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Nobody: 4:02am On Apr 10, 2013|
I am so flattered by this
Thank you dear for the kind words
Glad to know I made you laugh at a difficult time in your life
I left for a while and returned in December
See you around,I will be looking out for your comments too
I hope things are better for you now
Stay focused and keep your eyes on the ball
All things are possible with God.
As usual I take no prisoners with the eediots around here
What can they do?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Nobody: 4:08am On Apr 10, 2013|
PortHarcourtBoy: I hope dem fumigate this Oba with enuuuuf insecticides and pesticides before e see the Queen? The guy just be like mobile sanctuary for rodents and insects...
The Oba looks like he should be in a cartoon
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by yuzedo: 11:48am On Apr 10, 2013|
This thread is JOKES, yo!
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by Okijajuju1(m): 11:49am On Apr 10, 2013|
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by yokiti: 3:02pm On Apr 10, 2013|
OC cool: All u haters badmouthing d oba's attire, why don't you upload pics of ur traditional rulers with their attires, if they won't look like glorified native doctors.
I dont know how some people got this level of dishonour. How are you doing brother? See you at the conference latter in the month.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by koastar: 5:42pm On Apr 21, 2013|
1 shortblackboy: Nna mehn see baff up!!
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by GotNoBrainsYo: 11:50pm On Apr 21, 2013|
I dont know where to begin.
Are we talking about European Aristocratic tradition, Or African Aristocratic/Royal Tradition.
Where is his entourage as a Royal?
Why he is there at the tarmac waiting for her?
The Oba belittled his Kingship. PERIOD.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by PhysicsQED(m): 1:45am On Apr 22, 2013|
This is all about courtesy and politeness (something which a lot of people in this thread obviously have difficulty with) and people like you were making much of something that you guys think was a faux pas or gaffe, but which would just have been viewed at the time as politeness. I'm at a loss as to how so many people here can think that every encounter between an African and a European requires that the African has to puff out their chest, strut, and act standoffish - even when the European is just some delicate little lady smiling there with a handbag. It seems like a very immature view to take. I doubt that either of the two people shaking hands in that picture would have understood all these imaginary power dynamics you guys are reading into that handshake.
The other thing you seem to have missed is that Oba Akenzua II did not "bow" to Prince Phillip (British royalty) - not only because they are actually around the same height but because Philip isn't a lady so the convention of bowing when greeting a lady wouldn't even apply.
Anyway, Oba Akenzua II refused to go to Ibadan (the capital) to meet Queen Elizabeth II, so her tour was changed so that she would visit Benin and meet with the Oba there. I'm not sure how requiring from the tour organizers that she (the Queen) visit Oba Akenzua II in Benin rather than the Oba traveling to meet her wherever else she was going is belittling his kingship.
As for "African Aristocratic/Royal Tradition", is there some all inclusive "African Aristocratic Tradition" with set conventions that every African monarch or aristocrat adheres to? Because there is considerable variation in customs and tradition among African monarchs - for example this "entourage" stuff. What entourage are you talking about? Why should the Oba have had his whole "entourage" (whatever exactly you think that should have consisted of) there? And I don't see Queen Elizabeth's "entourage" in those photos, so I don't see what your point is.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by GotNoBrainsYo: 3:09am On Apr 22, 2013|
So you think the Sultan of Sokoto, will carry his Shokoto and go and wait for HRH. Or that the Shehu of Borno
will go and wait for HRH at an airport without royal aides?
Please let me hear word. The Oba denigrated his Office as far as I am concerned. Carry GO!
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by ezotik: 4:39am On Apr 22, 2013|
so because the oba did not behave the way you would approve, means he "denigrated his office?" as if everybody must behave the same. i dont understand u people, always looking for some ignorant shyte to say. abeg carry ur wahala go front jor.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by PhysicsQED(m): 8:02am On Apr 22, 2013|
I don't know all the details of the queen's visit to the north in 1956, just like I don't know whether Oba Akenzua II had any "royal aides" (for?) there with him in Benin in 1956 or not (although obviously he didn't bring an entire "entourage" for no reason) but I easily found out enough from a quick online search to know that what you're saying is nonsense. The Sultan of Sokoto and the Shehu of Borno did leave their palaces to wait for Queen Elizabeth - at the Kaduna Durbar in 1956 when she visited that city as part of her tour:
"The queen and the Duke of Edinburgh arrived in an open Rolls Royce, circling the racecourse twice before taking their seats on the dais of the durbar pavillion, where they were joined by the governor of the region, Sir Bryan E. Sharwood-Smith, and his wife, Lady Sharwood-Smith, by the premier, the Sardauna of Sokoto, and by the sultan of Sokoto and the Shehu of Borno, who left their seats only to lead their contingents on horseback." - Andrew Apter, "The Subversion of Tradition: A Genealogy of the Nigerian Durbar" (from p. 238 of the book State Culture: The Study of State Formation After the Cultural Turn)
This is a link to the full article from that book: http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/history/apter/apter_subvention_tradition_nigerian_durbar.pdf
If the previous Sultan of Sokoto could "carry his Shokoto" and go to Kaduna to wait for Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip at the Kaduna Durbar in 1956, and then bow as he was being knighted by her (there is a photograph of it in that same article on p. 241 of that book mentioned above), then I don't think you have a point. If the sultan was so obsessed with showing indifference and acting standoffish like you guys would like, why would he even bother to accept being knighted, and why would he travel to Kaduna to do so? And the Shehu also traveled out of Borno to Kaduna specifically for this Durbar held in honor of the queen's royal visit.
These Durbars originated in British ruled India and were originally introduced to Northern Nigeria by the British so that the Northern rulers could acknowledge their role as subjects of the British empire and pay obeisance to the British rulers. The first Northern Nigerian Durbar was held in 1900 in honor of Lord Lugard, another was held in 1925 in honor of the visit of the Prince of Wales, and one was held in 1956 in honor of Queen Elizabeth II's visit to Kaduna.
The point is, all that haughty and standoffish behavior that you guys desperately wanted to see was not in vogue then among anybody. All it takes is a little maturity to realize that exhibiting politeness and graciousness isn't belittling one's throne. Some people are so desperate in their desire to see anyone or anything exemplary from another group/culture denigrated that they delude and confuse themselves into thinking an entire kingship can be belittled by one courteous "bow".
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by naptu2: 8:12am On Apr 22, 2013|
Good response from Physics. I have seen pictures and videos of the visit and I've heard testimony from people who were actually there. The Oba of Lagos, the Oba of Benin, the Sultan of Sokoto and many other traditional rulers bowed to the Queen during her visit. It is not a big deal.
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by bokohalal(m): 10:25pm On Apr 22, 2013|
Whatever happened to my posting?
|Re: Photo Of Queen Elizabeth II And Oba Of Benin In 1956 by niggadee(m): 7:50pm On May 02, 2013|
i like awolowo Itagbe is cool
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