Pygru:
Like those who attend a Catholic /Protestant church or receive a blood transfusion

Pygru:
Does that Ivalidate the other points raised

ijawkid:

Like I said choose one point and we discuss before another.....I can't attend to all points at once..........besides some claims there are twisted ......

Pygru:
Nothing to discuss there.
I have played my part.
It's now left for you to counter what I have said.

ijawkid:

I've told you were our starting point should be........let's discuss with the scriptures...stop this childs play........

Decide which topic we tackle first.....

ijawkid:

Lol...how do you even know that what you pasted is true.??...that's my problem...you've pasted so many lies here and you expect me to start attending to all..I don't even knw where to start from...you don't even know which you want me to attend to...

You're just a waste of time and space.....

All I want to do is debunk the foundation on which you stand..but you are even afraid to come out and play.......

Let's deal with the major doctrines...

##trinity
##..hell fire.

As for tithing my other colleagues have done a nice job........

Pygru:

Pls do not derail this thread.
I think you have forgoten the title of this thread.
It's 'Facts you should know about Jehovah's Witnesses'.
If you want to discuss about Hell/Godhead you know what to do!!!

mumumugu: you are funny.when debating with catholics, you easily throw seven questions at once, from worshiping status,to praying to Mary , to use of candle to pope is antichrist. Now you ask for step by step analysis.

mumumugu: you are funny.when debating with catholics, you easily throw seven questions at once, from worshiping status,to praying to Mary , to use of candle to pope is antichrist. Now you ask for step by step analysis.

Pygru:

he is been served a dose of his own medicine.

ijawkid:

And what should I do??......

Pygru:
Open a [/b]new[/b] thread

iamSi: What kind of religion condemn others _ wanting people to come to their? LoL

ijawkid: Naaaaa.......we stay on a topic till the end...if its about mary we discuss it right down to the end...if its about the use of the rosary we discuss it right down to the end......if its about purgatory we stay on the topic.......

ijawkid:
The JW's have in the past anticipated the worlds end and so engaged in scriptural chronology.......and YES some were mistakes on our part......and what have we done.??we've adjusted......who says we shouldn't and can't adjust??

ijawkid: ...we don't remain stiff necked even whÉn it is glaring that §omething is wrong........

ijawkid: but that has not changed a thing about the JW's........we don't joke with the prophecies about an impending destruction of this world.......we are ever observant to worlds affairs and how they are connected to scriptural prophecies........

ijawkid: The question you should ask yourself now is::::::

What do JW's believe...........

ijawkid: When I attack the doctrines of my colleagues here I first of all know what they really believe down till this moment...........

megawax8: i tink people should alwayz kno deir roots wen practicin a particular faith,it sure helps dan beleivin wateva sum pple made our fadaz beleive......true talk:90% of us r in churches/worship wher we were born into cos 'our parents' tink its ryt...
Evn a child raised by a stepfather demands to kno his father or wat happened to him wen he's fully grown and can choose ryt from wrong....its not called foolishness,its called wisdom....
KNOW THY FAITH TODAY!!

Proudly catholic*i kno dis wil cause sum flares,bt i am proud to be a catholic*

mumumugu: you are funny.when debating with catholics, you easily throw seven questions at once, from worshiping status,to praying to Mary , to use of candle to pope is antichrist. Now you ask for step by step analysis.

ijawkid:

Naaaaa.......we stay on a topic till the end...if its about mary we discuss it right down to the end...if its about the use of the rosary we discuss it right down to the end......if its about purgatory we stay on the topic.......

And I can't remember when I argued about the use of candles with anybody....abi u dey mistake me for someone else??

ijawkid:

Just on the other thread u introduced the trinity and hell fire dogma.....we engaged u,but u ran away.....how can I engage a fool like you that doesn't stay focused to discuss points........

Before you opened this thread you had not even discussed 1/10th of the issues you brought up on the other thread.......

And I should take you serious??

italo:



So wo was the inspiration behind the false prophecies you call "mistakes?" God or Satan?

italo:


But you can see that something is wrong and you remain stiff-necked. Your sect made a prophecy purportedly from God that the world would end in 1975. This is 2013 and the world has not ended. Who lied? God or your sect? And you remain there. Are you not stiffinecked?

italo:

You mean you don't joke with your false prophecies.

italo:

Why should I ask that? Do you ever ask what Catholics believe?

italo:

That is a lie. Every Catholic tells you that they worship God alone yet you run around saying that we worship Mary, Saints, Pope, statues, rosaries, candles etc.

frosbel: There are five important facts to remember about the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Organization.

1. They have accepted the Organization as the Prophet of God.

2. They have accepted the Organization as God's sole channel for His truth.

3. They believe that to reject the Organization is to reject God.

4. They believe that only the Organization can interpret the Bible; as individuals they are unable to do so.

5. They believe the Watchtower Magazine contains God's truth, directed by Him, through the Organization.



What does the Organization and Watchtower Magazine teach that is in conflict with Orthodox Christianity?

1. That Jesus is a created being/a creature.

2. That Jesus is actually Michael the Archangel

3. That Jesus was not resurrected bodily, but as a spirit being.

4. That Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 (secretly to the Organization)

5. That Jesus was only a man when on earth, not the Word Become flesh.

6. That the Holy Spirit is only an active force, not the person of God.

7. That Hell is simply the grave.

7. That Heaven's doors is open to only 144,000.

8. That the majority of Witnesses must remain on earth.

9. That salvation is found only through the Organization.

10. That it must be maintained by energetic works for the Organization until the end when one may merit eternal life on a paradise earth.




The Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe or teach some of the very basic tenets of Christian doctrine.

They deny:

1. The Omnipresence of God.

2. The Deity of Christ.

3. The bodily resurrection of Christ.

4. The visible return of Christ.

5. The Promise of Heaven to all believers.

6. The necessity of the New Birth for all believers.

ijawkid: But I thought u urself recently concluded that HELL is d common grave of mankind...

Or have u been hallucinating lately??

Was it not u that recently argued tooth and nail with ola and many others that Hell is not a place of torment but Hades??
How does that ur new found knowledge differ with that which d witnesses believe in??

Frosbel it seems u'v become so confused as to what u believe and advocate.....

Jehovahs witnesses dnt believe in d immortality of d soul which I know and which u recently just knew....

Put it up there in ur list.......


U will use those hands and mouth to come bak to back up those teachings up there ur fighting against....

Soonest!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its gonna be gradual.....

1st its ur change of understanding as regards Hell...

2ndly is ur change of understanding regarding d immortality of d soul....

Other changes are coming my bro.......

If Jesus wasn't fully a man on earth he wouldn't die my bro...
Acquire some common sense.....

If Jesus was God bodily he would nt die,he would not forget when d world would end,he will not worship some1 else...

He wouldn't be called the son of man,......

What do u tink d word ""SON of MAN"" means??

The Jehovahs witnesses have always been right on this issue.....

I espouse there stand on it.......

ijawkid:
The drive for truths and also anticipation of Gods kingdom is what was responsible......

ijawkid: If after studying much I come to a realization that the use of beads in worship isn't christian or has any foundation in christianity but rather on paganism why can't I make adjustments??.......

italo:

So prophecies no longer come from God?

italo:

If your doctrines can change, how do you know the ones you hold today are true and will not change tomorrow?

italo:

And who inspired the first one that was later declared wrong? God or satan?

ijawkid:


I have told you.....the fervor for seeing an end to this wicked world is the driving force..which ofcourse is from God......

And that drive is still intact........that's why we preach tirelessly........

I guess you don't have time for that since you're pre-occupied with idol worship....

ijawkid:

Ahh the 1914 issue.........you were here on nairaland when this issue was discussed extensively by truthislife and barrister.....weren't u??.......and you guys call it russels teachings.............is russell the same as Jehovahs witnesses??.......

ijawkid:

Ask the OP.......I just don't know where he got these info's from....smh!!!........

Besides I wonder if these are doctrines........

Let the OP come out and tell us where he got these info's from...because I know nothing about them......

ijawkid:

The members lacked the credentials for bible translation but they were able to restore the name of God which persons in the past removed......right??.....can pygru and you tell us the credentials that one should have that would qualify him or her to translate the bible??

We've argued extensively on john 1:1 on this religion forum.............

You know the witnesses bÓldy woÙld tell yoÙ ::::::.........we don't believe in the trinity...and we are ever ready to discuss it.........

ijawkid:

What credible source??.........can you tell me??.......

mumumugu: Italo take it easy

ijawkid:

FALSE..........JW's own schools and hospitals......now this is a lie from pygru.......

but the fact still remains that JW's are not steeped into the worlds pursuit because this life isn't all there is......we put in 90 percent of our energies in preaching....the same exact way Jesus did...

But talking about witness not operationg schools and hospitals even you italo knows its a lie.....