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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by enm(m): 8:11am On Nov 17, 2014
My people good morning ooh and happy and a prosperous new week to you all.

@flowers4me you are welcome. Hope someone has contacted you?

@all, please let stay away from argument and continue spreading the message. Answer question and give explanation but argument we should jump and pass.

Once again Boss13 with love you are welcome to this thread, sampling a few page won't do. You need to read from the zero page to the last page. Unfortunately we lost a a lot page during the tsunami that took place on nairaland.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by enm(m): 8:14am On Nov 17, 2014
@sotum2, Wednesday this week is ideal to restart our Wednesday prayer and fasting programme
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by sotum2: 9:26am On Nov 17, 2014
enm:
@sotum2, Wednesday this week is ideal to restart our Wednesday prayer and fasting programme

O.k supported.

@flowers4me u are welcome to this thread, just pray, somebody in lagos or around there wil surely help u out soon.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by humilitatem(f): 9:41am On Nov 17, 2014
Good morning glorious and wonderrful conquerors!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust we all are bouncing in the Lord? Thanks to all who have kept this thread going despite Godssent absence. To all the newbies you all are welcomed. @mikuut sorry about your loss.God will surely do it again. Have faith and please be prayerful. Its good to see some old members gradually coming out to post. Please do not abandon the thread. @ all Our God is a Mighty God, do not limit him, do not dictate how He should answer your prayers. Just let Him do it in His own way, in His own time. After all, He is God. Do not try to help Him answer your prayers. He just has so many ways of answering - amazing ways. Be serious with prayer. it is not a joke and you must be persistent. It is not that God is difficult to approach. or hard to convince. The reason you may not see answers to your prayers immediately might be because of the power of hindrance in the second heaven. So you must persist like Daniel and the woman in Lk 18. Many give up just when they are at the edge of breakthrough because they are not able to see things with the eyes of the Spirit, the enemy distracts and discourages them just at the point of their miracles. How sad! " Men ought to always pray and not to faint". God bless.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 10:16am On Nov 17, 2014
sotum2:


Because u went to a fake pastor with this mentality u lost u mum.

God is the one that can deliver not man.

All ur comments to pastor joeagbaje was, but u claim u healed jeff of hiv?, etc. Wit this mentality u can never get anything frm God.

The next deliverance session will be on the 29th of this month, i dare u to go to CCT if the contrary spirit in u wil not manifest and be chained there.

You want to be a hero like sirjohn, oya forward match to CCT on their deliverance day, no body wil tel u, u wil come back to this tread and use that ur same mouth u used in calling Servant Vic a fraud to say he is a Servant of God, unlike the fake pastor that made u loose ur mum.

I can see you have been reading my previous post. Good for you. Sorry I do not seek to be a hero. I am already a hero to the people that matters to me a lot. I did not go to any pastor and FYI most pastors are fake. They do not understand God - the Supreme Being/Creator. Also, FYI The Supreme Being/God has given us everything we need. So I am sorry to disappoint you that I shall neither be attending your charade of a deliverance session nor will any contrary spirit manifest (very laughable with the things they confuse these people with).

Also note that you do not need anybody to solve your problem and I strongly recommend people having fertility issues to desist from this thread and go to fertility clinics where you meet specialists who will tell you what is wrong with you and advise you on therapies and alternative solutions. That is the miracle God has provided for Scientists to make breakthroughs.

Don't fuel your heart with false hopes this fake preachers offer. They have nothing to offer than the offerings and donations you give to them. Servant Vic is only interested in starting a ministry. He is not a medical practitioner.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 10:20am On Nov 17, 2014
mikuut:
@samplet I cld nt go I sent de boy thats staying with us to tell servant vic to ples give him blessed water for me severe pain on my head o, @Samplet I got pregnant some months back on d10th wk my elder sis called us so we travelled down, she told us that a pastor saw in a vision dat theris need for family spiritual cleansing cos of whwt happened to our step sister, so we contributed money lodged d M.O.G paid d fee. Am feeling pains let me shorten it, infact I lost d preg, dream is now bad and scary, goods dat used to arrive easily is now tough.
@samplet I cant post details, I hv pm you respond.
@Godssent, thanks for opening my eyes I hv learnt my last lesson.

Damn. Will you go to the hospital for Christ sake and go check yourself up. Blessed water oh God. Please pastors do not see vision, they speculate. Even Clairvoyants will need you to be in their presence before they perceive your aura and certain times they are wrong with their perception. Why would a bloody man who is suppose to worry about his welfare begin to see you in dreams when his dreams are a manifestation of his subconsciousness. These people will never learn.

Go to hospital woman.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 10:24am On Nov 17, 2014
Sotum you are yet to provide evidence and prove me wrong that your servant vic, which may even be you is a fraud

McSterling:
The question I always ask about these purported miracle workers is this: if indeed they can do fantastic deeds like healing HIV,blindness,raising the dead etc.,why doesn't the world take them seriously?Why doesn't the media broadcast and publish these things? Why do we always have to take the word of these healers or their sycophants for it? You want us to believe fantastic and extraordinary things are happening at certain church meetings and the world just chooses to ignore you because of unbelief?

Someone mentioned John G. Lake here. Lake claimed that he was mightily used by God to heal a certain plague that hit SA in the early 20th century. He even said he asked a doctor to collect fumes from the corpse of a dead victim and put it in his(Lake's) hands, claiming the microorganisms will die. And he further tells us that they did die when observed under the microscope. A most fantastic deed indeed! But is there any external, disinterested or independent evidence corroborating Lake's claim? Not that I know of. The same applies to the many supposed faith healers: A.A. Allen, Wigglesworth, Branham et al. Lake the faith healer died of a stroke at 65 in 1935 after making many outrageous claims that made him seem superhuman. He was just a man after all.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by sotum2: 1:26pm On Nov 17, 2014
Boss13:
Sotum you are yet to provide evidence and prove me wrong that your servant vic, which may even be you is a fraud



Hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by McSterling(m): 2:41pm On Nov 17, 2014
Boss13:
Sotum you are yet to provide evidence and prove me wrong that your servant vic, which may even be you is a fraud

What are you talking about?
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 2:43pm On Nov 17, 2014
^^^^^^ The attitude of a charlatan. People please go to the hospital oh. That is where the miracle lies. For every action there is an equal reaction. You cannot change the equation through hope. That water you claim to be blessed is just normal water with Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms just like the one I am drinking now. If you have malaria please take your pills, except you have blood genotype of SS and AS or your antibodies are extremely strong. If you have fertility issues please visit a fertility doctor. I repeat, visit a fertility hospital. They will take you through the entire process and tell you what is wrong with you. You would see the result through scan. Please you owe yourself that and not some charlatan claiming to be performing miracles. He is no medical practitioners. He is a fraud and would complicate your issue.

They have created this thread for advertisement and have recruited people to support their fictitious claims. Open your eyes and use your brain logically.

Wolves in sheep clothings.....

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 2:46pm On Nov 17, 2014
McSterling:
What are you talking about?

He claimed he was prayed for by one servant vic (they never put their complete names so that investigation will not be conducted on them) and his sperm count went from zero to 47 million. I told him show me proof (documentary evidence) that you sperm count was zero at one point (sperm count can never be zero) and then show me lab test for 47 million.

The guy just dey drink OMO since.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by McSterling(m): 3:22pm On Nov 17, 2014
Boss13:


He claimed he was prayed for by one servant vic (they never put their complete names so that investigation will not be conducted on them) and his sperm count went from zero to 47 million. I told him show me proof (documentary evidence) that you sperm count was zero at one point (sperm count can never be zero) and then show me lab test for 47 million.

The guy just dey drink OMO since.
Lol...wetin person no go hear?
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 3:49pm On Nov 17, 2014
McSterling:
Lol...wetin person no go hear?

This thread was opened and designed to promote the falsehood of one servant vic and his co-workers and employee and even himself have been filling it with lies. What is painful about this thread is that is concerns expecting mothers, or women who seriously want to get pregnant or men with fertility issues.

When they see this thread because of their present situation they feel there is hope drinking a bottle of water branded as blessing/holy water (crap) or attending endless deliverance session (where you pay offerings, tithes and other donations).

They claimed servant vic does not require prospective members to pay a fee - a gimmicks to lure members to attend his session. I read on a thread that he is a cleaner in Oyedepo's church (a huge red-flag).

People should stop the nonsense of visiting people who claim to be miracle workers rather than visit the actual miracle workers - which is HOSPITAL.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by McSterling(m): 4:04pm On Nov 17, 2014
Boss13:


This thread was opened and designed to promote the falsehood of one servant vic and his co-workers and employee and even himself have been filling it with lies. What is painful about this thread is that is concerns expecting mothers, or women who seriously want to get pregnant or men with fertility issues.

When they see this thread because of their present situation they feel there is hope drinking a bottle of water branded as blessing/holy water (crap) or attending endless deliverance session (where you pay offerings, tithes and other donations).

They claimed servant vic does not require prospective members to pay a fee - a gimmicks to lure members to attend his session. I read on a thread that he is a cleaner in Oyedepo's church (a huge red-flag).

People should stop the nonsense of visiting people who claim to be miracle workers rather than visit the actual miracle workers - which is HOSPITAL.
That is what poverty and neglect can do to a people's psyche.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 4:09pm On Nov 17, 2014
McSterling:
That is what poverty and neglect can do to a people's psyche.

Exactly.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by yetseyi(f): 6:13pm On Nov 17, 2014
Good day, enm pls i sent u a PM, Kindly reply
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by enm(m): 7:06pm On Nov 17, 2014
yetseyi:
Good day, enm pls i sent u a PM, Kindly reply

Have already replied you
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by sotum2: 8:03pm On Nov 17, 2014
@Enn, how is the wednesday fasting going to be?

Is it going to be as usual, 6am to 3Pm or 6pm for those who can?
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by blessedbeads(f): 9:20pm On Nov 17, 2014
@sotum and enm pls let it be 6-6pm and let it be uniform ,pls mAk una snd prayer point @Boss13 u need 2 see beyond d physical because u dnt need 2 believe was happening on dis tread .I pray God open ur eyes.....
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 9:25pm On Nov 17, 2014
blessedbeads:
@sotum and enm pls let it be 6-6pm and let it be uniform ,pls mAk una snd prayer point @Boss13 u need 2 see beyond d physical because u dnt need 2 believe was happening on dis tread .I pray God open ur eyes.....

I can see if you need to be informed. I don't know what your issues are. If you can tell me I would recommend a fine doctor for you and you would also get a discount and if you prefer privacy I would recommend a good top notch hospital. Except you want to promote this propaganda or you intend to strengthen your spiritual faith. However the case, my stance still remain the same that your servant is a fraud and he is not alone. I can pick out a couple of his co-workers here on this thread.

Please don't suffer in silence and complicate matters.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by jayedu108: 10:56pm On Nov 17, 2014
Boss13:


I can see if you need to be informed. I don't know what your issues are. If you can tell me I would recommend a fine doctor for you and you would also get a discount and if you prefer privacy I would recommend a good top notch hospital. Except you want to promote this propaganda or you intend to strengthen your spiritual faith. However the case, my stance still remain the same that your servant is a fraud and he is not alone. I can pick out a couple of his co-workers here on this thread.

Please don't suffer in silence and complicate matters.
can u just shup for once and stop making a fool of urself here,if u are jobless go get a job and let and stop making dose silliy noise nonsense.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by enm(m): 11:42pm On Nov 17, 2014
@all, sometime it best to stay away from argument less we allow emotion to run high and take over and say things we suppose not to do.

Also na matter the issue or bothersome it is to you let reply with love, let no insultives be use because we are different. To the glory of Almighty God, our eyes have been open and our knowledge increase and by so doing we have seen the light which Jesus is.

With love let project that light out so that others too can see it, pray and handover the case of those doubting to God to intervene and show them the light.

Once again let not give room for argument to overtake this thread. Thanks for your understanding.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by flowers4me(f): 12:54am On Nov 18, 2014
enm:


@flowers4me you are welcome. Hope someone has contacted you? .

Thank you, enm, no one has contacted me yet.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by flowers4me(f): 12:59am On Nov 18, 2014
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@flowers4me u are welcome to this thread, just pray, somebody in lagos or around there wil surely help u out soon.[/quote]

Thank you sotum2, i pray i find help soon oo..thursday is just around the corner.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by enm(m): 1:33am On Nov 18, 2014
flowers4me:


Thank you, enm, no one has contacted me yet.

Check your mail box
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by mikuut: 1:35am On Nov 18, 2014
Boss13:


Damn. Will you go to the hospital for Christ sake and go check yourself up. Blessed water oh God. Please pastors do not see vision, they speculate. Even Clairvoyants will need you to be in their presence before they perceive your aura and certain times they are wrong with their perception. Why would a bloody man who is suppose to worry about his welfare begin to see you in dreams when his dreams are a manifestation of his subconsciousness. These people will never learn.

Go to hospital woman.
who is dis mumuni?
So u dis unemployed pagan, you called Servant vic a scam? for d sake of what u typed above, after quoting me, may you become a regular custormer to hospitals I dnt blame u, judging frm ur post u are a pagan bt u wanted to snatch miracle healing frm God when ur mama was diagnosed with cancer, cos u tot God does nt know de people dat serves him. hem I pity u I hv viewed ur post
& I found out dat ur insultive prayer to God contributed t ur mama's death.

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Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Barywhyte(m): 2:47am On Nov 18, 2014
how is this prayer and fasting stuff going to be? how about prayer points?
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by blessedbeads(f): 5:31am On Nov 18, 2014
Goodmrn g8t conquers hop evry one had a g8t 9th rest ,pls prayer point for 2mrrw fasting @enm tanx for wat u r doing in dis tread @sotum kudos 2 u also @barrywhte hw is wrk and hop we r seeing u dis Thursday@ flower4me hop u hav gotten somone 2 help u if u hav not snd me mail ,I will be dere on Thursday also and @all let's not say anythgn to Boss13 again jus leave him so dat dere will not be argument again.....may d good lord bless our day
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by yetseyi(f): 6:29am On Nov 18, 2014
@enm u ve got a maill. pls reply.tnks
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by sotum2: 7:34am On Nov 18, 2014
Barywhyte:
how is this prayer and fasting stuff going to be? how about prayer points?

enn, will bring out the prayer point.

At all, let us follow enn advise and let those who believe ,believe, those who dont should remain where they are
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Nobody: 8:01am On Nov 18, 2014
Good morning my e -family,to those going for this months deliverance,God will surely locate and deliver you out of your problems amen

@ Boss13,if servant Vic is a scammer,am ready to be scammed leave us alone in this thread,yes I want to be scammed by servant Vic and is none of your business. You put your hope on a man,and he failed you now you want to discourage us from putting hope on God. A lot of us have been to so many doctors yet the story is the same that's to
show you no doctors have solution to any problem.

Once again leave me alone I want to be scammed.
Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 10:33am On Nov 18, 2014
manoda:
Good morning my e -family,to those going for this months deliverance,God will surely locate and deliver you out of your problems amen

@ Boss13,if servant Vic is a scammer,am ready to be scammed leave us alone in this thread,yes I want to be scammed by servant Vic and is none of your business. You put your hope on a man,and he failed you now you want to discourage us from putting hope on God. A lot of us have been to so many doctors yet the story is the same that's to
show you no doctors have solution to any problem.

Once again leave me alone I want to be scammed.

Manoda, I appreciate and respect your decision. I respect the decision, if you are not part of the syndicate, that you want your gullibility to be exploited. Everyone is responsible for themselves.

I wish to set the record straight because some of you who have gone to read my previous posts have decided to misconstrued things to suit yourself.

- I did not go to meet a pastor to pray for my mother. I was actually at the hospital when the pastor and his team came around.
- We all knew that my mother was going to pass on because the doctors has pre-informed us even her cancer condition is free available on the internet. We hid the information from my mother. Why it was painful was that the death occurred sooner than expected. We anticipated months, but it happened within couple of days.
- Despite being sceptical about the doings, undoing, manipulations, actions, inactions, falsehood of pastors, I do believe in God the Supreme Being and Creator and just like every human being who is yet to fully understand and grasps the mystery of this supreme being, I resulted to hope because I do not wish to lose my mother. Well it has happened and I am stronger now and I also know better now. My mother's death and other experiences continues to justify my reason - if you act in certain conditions, the result attributed to the conditions will naturally take effect.
- Now to you manoda, do you want to have a child? Why don't you go to the hospital and get looked at so that you can know what is wrong with you or your partner and begin the treatment process. When you seek hope from fraudsters, you delay your treatment. When you are knowledgeable about something, you begin the address the situation based on your knowledge.

- The Supreme Being is expressed in every way and it was not a mistake that there are doctors/scientist who can solve your issue.

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