This is for Davidylan. Eat ur heart out. What do you think of Hillary Clinton now huh? She was the "crazy feminist" when she started out. She was vilified and called every abusive name in the book for being an ambitious woman and not "submissive and traditional" like the first ladies before her. Now that she is fulfiling her ambition you assume and pretend as if she just magically rose up to high ranks without having to face criticism from anti-feminists like you. The public vilification that is meant to put women "in their place" (on whatever issue it may be) do not faze feminists and that is why you are threatened.

Now that their are laws, who is preventing women from taking advantage of them? Patriachs? lol. Sit there "gbaming" while your mates are working as surgeons, senators and now president when Hillary runs in 2016.

American women are begining to step up for office and guess what? they are winning by large margins. We are 3 yrs removed from the next US presidential elections and yet Hillary is trumping all her potential male opponents by more than 10 points. When other women make the choice to step up they will get our votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZkwbuKbTw

"I suppose I could have stayed at home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do is to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life..."hahah LOVE HER!!

"the first lady was supposed to play the role of the wife and mother.. when Hillary stepped over that line, she got hammered more than anyone in this country ever has"....

99cents iron my shirt and keep quiet

Alarm don blow today . . . . na joke o

Unspoken rules are behavioral constraints imposed in organizations or societies that are not voiced or written down. They usually exist in unspoken and unwritten format because they form a part of the logical argument or course of action implied by tacit assumptions. Examples involving unspoken rules include unwritten and unofficial organizational hierarchies, organizational culture, and acceptable behavioral norms governing interactions between organizational members.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unspoken_rule


#feminists-defy-unspoken-rules

It seems some people are determined with this feminism of a thing.
Na wa.

99cent:

feminists do good work all over the USA and the world. at least u can't deny that. they introduce, encourage and support young girls to participate in STEM fields and continue to mentor the ones who show sustained interest. and that's just one small aspect of what they do.

kim ka-trash-ian is just a product of her environment. she is the dream of many anti-feminists.

Iceland's FEMALE president recently banned strip clubs and s.extapes that demean women. most anti-feminists are in uproar over this. they love their kim k fixes.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/28/173187642/icelands-plan-to-ban-online-porn-spurs-outrage

Hmm.. I comment my reserve....

Anyone following this topic?
https://www.nairaland.com/1357050/soyinka-patience-jonathan-lady-before

Wole Soyinka has accused Patience Jonathan of being behind the rivers state crisis. He didn't provide any evidence or proof for his accusations. But it is highly suspect that he is infuriated over Bipi's esteem of Patience. Somehow just that fact that Bipi holds patience in high esteem means to soyinka that patience has power which she should not have as a "lady"
http://news.naij.com/40015.html

wole soyinka's words verbatim:

She is a wife, she is an unconstitutional being, she should not be empowered to such an extent that she is flouting the prerogative, the rights and the responsibilities of the governor of any state, in Rivers, Lagos or in any other state.

this is beyond absurd and I am highly disappointed in Soyinka.
according to him, it is "unconstitutional" for wives to give their husbands and friends political opinion. LOL

I guess he feels he (as a male) should have more authority over Nigerian politics than our first lady should have. seeing as he has an opinion on everything and doesn't seem to see the problem with his own actively meddling involvement in Nigerian politics. I wonder how he rationalizes that.

legislators throwing chairs and beating each other up. not an uncommon spectacle in Nigerian politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9P9nxNMA8

A (male) Nairaland member has created a thread to commentate properly on the issue. I wonder how people will respond to the thread.
Soyinka's works and plays are well known to have a chauvinist/elitist bias which explains the thread title.

Soyinka: The Chauvinist Bitterness For The Empowerment Of Women In Nigeria by akpomeme(m): 12:59am

The elitist sense of self that the educated and fortunate class of people carry on their shoulders has become a burden to over 90% of Nigerian voters who do not fall within this segment. This segment is well occupied by all knowing narcissus “Wole Soyinka” and his kinds; who now believes that his acknowledged monkey see monkey do achievement by colonial factors gives him the right to belittle Nigerian women in politics.

Patience Jonathan may not have had fair opportunities in life just as elitist Soyinka, but one cannot take away the tenacity of Patience Jonathan and her willingness to make mistakes in pursuit of goals. She campaigned for husband during the last election, the elite class laughed at her but she was well understood by her constituency (Women – Educated and otherwise).

Her successes irked the less than 10% opinionated elite class who already defined the office of the first lady to be something beyond Patience; an everyday Nigerian woman. This was most recently highlighted by the calls for her to be relegated to ‘being a lady first before being a first lady’. The truth of the matter is that Patience Jonathan understand that there is nothing lady like about Nigerian politics. Buhari once noted that he rather not run for the highest job in Nigeria if the best his alliance can produce is Ngozi Okonjo who should be in the kitchen cooking for her husband, Such is the story of Nigerian politics.

You will agree with me that under President Jonathan, more women have been empowered far more than any other government in the history of Nigeria has ever done. This battle is one of those battles being fought by Patience Jonathan. Nigerians should always read in-between the line when a frail that is good enough for men is considered not good enogh for women. Professor can criticise madam first lady all he want, but he can not detract the battle for empowerment of women in politics by Patience Jonathan. Chauvinism and elitism cannot win elections where erroneous diction can.

https://www.nairaland.com/1358304/soyinka-chauvinist-bitterness-empowerment-women

excerpt that caught my eye:

Buhari once noted that he rather not run for the highest job in Nigeria if the best his alliance can produce is Ngozi Okonjo who should be in the kitchen cooking for her husband, Such is the story of Nigerian politics.

https://www.nairaland.com/1358304/soyinka-chauvinist-bitterness-empowerment-women

^ what more can I say?

Billionaires: Wole Soyinka married 3 times and divorced 3 times cos he take our women as 'mere domestic appendage', he is a f00l.

https://www.nairaland.com/1357171/soyinka-embarrassment-admirers-patience-jonathan/14

Of all people to carry your trump card for

Na a partially educated, grammatically deficient woman you dey call your feminist heroine

You are so laughable

Go anf read up on the excesses of this same woman and come back


You are such a joke.. 99cent

See the epitome of first lady ship
Michelle and sam cam

Did you see anybody make fun of her

Crappists..

If the vice president which is constitutionally created is no more than the prez errand boy

How much more an unconsititutional role like the first lady

You have no point

She is just an appendage and needs to learn decorum first before she can speak for nigerian women


Get another format

99cent: excerpt that caught my eye:

https://www.nairaland.com/1358304/soyinka-chauvinist-bitterness-empowerment-women

^ what more can I say?



https://www.nairaland.com/1357171/soyinka-embarrassment-admirers-patience-jonathan/14

@99cents
Patience jonathan issue is not an isolated event. That you singles out a section of Soyinka's statement and used it to lambast the erudite scholar speaks volumes about your sense of judgement.

Instead of fighting for justice, you fight for "women's rights" even when those women are miles away from being just. Is it not the same patience that has been insulting an elected governor of Rivers State? How come you didn't notice the abuses and public humiliation he has suffered at the hands of Patience Jonathan. So bc he is a man he can be ignored and his case declared unimportant.

You see why people don't take feminists seriously. Even the Clinton you like to quote, while making a case for feminism in Beijing conference in 1995 was careful to align female rights with HUMAN RIGHTS. She legitimized female rights by bringing it under human rights. So if human rights work out fine, won't female rights be covered therein? But you don't care about human rights, do you? All you care is female rights( translate women getting whatever they wish) and so the governor of rivers state is unimportant, but Patience is a victim bc Soyinka said the truth about her? Abi the prof lie?
The office of the First Lady is a domestic appendage of power. Period. And it's unconstitutional anyways.
Truth hurts

I really wonder why we try but we just have to

Her case is really pitiable
So far gone in her dogma

Patience jona is now the feminist torch?!

Where is fellis and crayola
Please come and help this your compatriot
She is falling una hand

toshmann: @99cents
Patience jonathan issue is not an isolated event. That you singles out a section of Soyinka's statement and used it to lambast the erudite scholar speaks volumes about your sense of judgement.

Instead of fighting for justice, you fight for "women's rights" even when those women are miles away from being just. Is it not the same patience that has been insulting an elected governor of Rivers State? How come you didn't notice the abuses and public humiliation he has suffered at the hands of Patience Jonathan. So bc he is a man he can be ignored and his case declared unimportant.

You see why people don't take feminists seriously. Even the Clinton you like to quote, while making a case for feminism in Beijing conference in 1995 was careful to align female rights with HUMAN RIGHTS. She legitimized female rights by bringing it under human rights. So if human rights work out fine, won't female rights be covered therein? But you don't care about human rights, do you? All you care is female rights( translate women getting whatever they wish) and so the governor of rivers state is unimportant, but Patience is a victim bc Soyinka said the truth about her? Abi the prof lie?
The office of the First Lady is a domestic appendage of power. Period. And it's unconstitutional anyways.
Truth hurts

99cent: This is for Davidylan. Eat ur heart out. What do you think of Hillary Clinton now huh?

"I suppose I could have stayed at home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do is to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life..."hahah LOVE HER!!

"the first lady was supposed to play the role of the wife and mother.. when Hillary stepped over that line, she got hammered more than anyone in this country ever has"....

I'm not sure i understand your point because it is, as usual, full of misrepresentation, incoherent statements and head scratching irrelevancy.

No one is complaining that Hillary is a successful woman. Rather the point is that society has evolved to the point where women can aspire to AND ATTAIN opportunities that were hitherto denied to them solely on the grounds of gender. The difference between the likes of Hillary and mouth-frothing demagogues like you is that Hillary does not need to run a rabid campaign denigrating men (and "anti-feminist" women) to get to her position in life. She worked HARD, with the support of a loving family to achieve her goals. I am not sure she would be where she is today if she spent all her time sobbing about trumped up claims of gender inequality.

Hillary's success is the type of example that is routinely celebrated in the lives of the mothers, aunts, nieces... of me and many of the men here. We stand for women who exhibit the drive and ambition to achieve whatever they set their minds to do. Not those who don the garb of perpetual victimhood.

Another huge difference between Hillary and your likes? She took her marital vows seriously and stayed with a husband who openly cheated on her (after he apologized). People like you would have quit even before the saliva dried on Bill's lips.

davidylan:

I'm not sure i understand your point because it is, as usual, full of misrepresentation, incoherent statements and head scratching irrelevancy.

No one is complaining that Hillary is a successful woman. Rather the point is that society has evolved to the point where women can aspire to AND ATTAIN opportunities that were hitherto denied to them solely on the grounds of gender. The difference between the likes of Hillary and mouth-frothing demagogues like you is that Hillary does not need to run a rabid campaign denigrating women to get to her position in life. She worked HARD, with the support of a loving family to achieve her goals. I am not sure she would be where she is today if she spent all her time sobbing about trumped up claims of gender inequality.

Hillary's success is the type of example that is routinely celebrated in the lives of the mothers, aunts, nieces... of me and many of the men here. We stand for women who exhibit the drive and ambition to achieve whatever they set their minds to do. Not those who don the garb of perpetual victimhood.

Another huge difference between Hillary and your likes? She took her marital vows seriously and stayed with a husband who openly cheated on her (after he apologized). People like you would have quit even before the saliva dried on Bill's lips. V

No, people like her would abuse Hillary for not divorcing bill.

toshmann:

No, people like her would abuse Hillary for not divorcing bill.

While denying their offspring of a male figure or better still, dyking their way about

life must be very tough for u male chauvinists seeing women who are supposed to be "mere domestic appendage" (soyinka's words) be heard in public.
don't u just wish you lived in 1850 instead of 2013? It's only going to get worse for you bros

Like someone mentioned appropriately "For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."

99cent: life must be very tough for u male chauvinists seeing women who are supposed to be "mere domestic appendage" (soyinka's words) be heard in public.

I believe in free speech.

don't u just wish you lived in 1850 instead of 2013?

2013 is better. @ 1850 I woulda been a slave. But by 2013 I'm the meanest modafoka that confronts injustice against anyone be it make or female, old or young, etc so 2013 is better

Like someone mentioned appropriately "For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."

Even the devil can quote the bible

toshmann:
@ 1850 I woulda been a slave.

ROTFLMAO. the only sensible part of ur entire comment
although I was referring to life in West Africa not USA.

lol @ Free Speech. more like Hate Speech.
but u are entitled to ur twisted opinion though.

in the news:
https://www.nairaland.com/1346609/bishop-chibuike-nwabueze-arrested-allegedly#16828976

Catholic bishop r.apes 15 yr old girl and sponsors her abortion.

99cent:

ROTFLMAO. the only sensible part of ur entire comment
although I was referring to life in West Africa not USA.


lol @ Free Speech. more like Hate Speech.
but u are entitled to ur opinion though.

Unfortunately, free speech includes hate speech.

toshmann:

Unfortunately, free speech includes hate speech.

no kidding

99cent: in the news:
https://www.nairaland.com/1346609/bishop-chibuike-nwabueze-arrested-allegedly#16828976

Catholic bishop r.apes 15 yr old girl and sponsors her abortion.

Wetin man no go hear for this world. Meanwhile this is bigger than female rights. This is child abuse and I'm totally against it. I'm sure biolabee and David will be equally appalled by this

toshmann:

Wetin man no go hear for this world. Meanwhile this is bigger than female rights. This is child abuse and I'm totally against it. I'm sure biolabee and David will be equally appalled by this

lol. so it would have been ok if she were 18 yrs old?
I hope he is jailed with immediate effect. he's probably preaching on pulpit as we speak...yet in private.....he is r.aping small girls and very pro-abortion

99cent:

lol. so it would have been ok if she were 18 yrs old.
I hope he is jailed with immediate effect. he's probably preaching on pulpit as we speak...yet in private.....he is r.aping small girls and very pro-abortion

Pro-Abortion indeed. What an idio.t how can he still be preaching?
That congregation no get brains?

99cent: in the news:
https://www.nairaland.com/1346609/bishop-chibuike-nwabueze-arrested-allegedly#16828976

Catholic bishop r.apes 15 yr old girl and sponsors her abortion.

This is a tragedy n hypocrisy of the highest order coupled with a black hearted father figure who has abused his moral n spiritual authority

I really wish we had a sex offenders register
This priest shd be aluu'ed

Seriously!! I enjoyed watching the video!! And all she said was true!! In shut!! I'm now a FEMINIST!!

http://mobile.saharareporters.com/news-page/why-i’m-angry-amaechi-–patience-jonathan

Nigeria First Lady, Dame Patience Faka Jonathan
By SaharaReporters, New York
For the first time, wife of President Goodluck Jonathan, Patience, gave an indication that she might be behind the crisis rocking Rivers State at the moment as she opened up on a plethora of grudges she is nursing against the state governor, Mr. Rotimi Amaechi.

Mrs. Jonathan spoke in Abuja on Wednesday during a courtesy visit to the Presidential Villa by 16 bishops from the South-South geo-political zone.

She said that the crisis in the state started four years ago and urged that there was need for prayers for the state.

She said, “Rivers state issue is one thing I’ve committed to prayer because I believe there is nothing God cannot do. God restored me and I’ll do his work without the fear of man.

“The truth will always remain the truth and what God ordains must come to pass and so Rivers issue is something we’ve handed over to God.’’

Nevertheless, she said she had always mediated between the governor and other parties in a crisis that she said began four years ago.

According to her, “This matter started as far back as four years ago at Anyugubiri in Okrika when I begged him not to demolish a part of Okrika but (that he should) dialogue first with the people.

“After that incident, he called the chairman of Okrika (local government) and sacked him for holding a reception in our honour; that boy was the first victim.

“He also put my people on curfew for nine months. I called him and pleaded with him but he refused. Then I began to hear all sort of propaganda in the media against me; this is not the way.

“I’ve never spoken about this issue but as men of God, I believe you’ll say the truth always because there are a lot of conflicting interests; some will hear one thing and say the exact opposite.

“I also want you to know the genesis of this problem and pray that God touches Amaechi’s heart as per his hot temper because when two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.

“I appeal to Amaechi to sheathe his sword so that we can defend our state and this country with love, unity, patriotism and truth at all time.

“Hebrews 12:14 urges us to embrace peace with all men without which; we cannot see God.

“Amaechi is my son; I cannot fight him, and I cannot kill him. He shouldn’t be used by outsiders against his own blood because this seat is vanity.

“One day, no matter how long it takes; we will leave this seat. Power is not forever. This seat is vanity; others sat here and left so one-day I’ll also leave, and we will meet at home; so why should I fight him?

“Let’s calm down, face issues, leave non-existent matters, stop magnifying lies and respect our leaders and people in authority. Let’s give peace a chance.”

Before she spoke, the leader of the delegation, Bishop God-Do-Well Awomapara, Chairman, Niger Delta Bishops Forum, said “We are on a quest to unravel the mysteries surrounding the Rivers issue and mediate where necessary.’’

@99cent
If you read the story from the link above you'll see where Patience jonathan called a Local Govt chairman "that boy". Will you protest this? You know in Africa, it's degrading to call a man a boy.

What d'you say?

homesteady: Seriously!! I enjoyed watching the video!! And all she said was true!! In shut!! I'm now a FEMINIST!!

toshmann: http://mobile.saharareporters.com/news-page/why-i’m-angry-amaechi-–patience-jonathan
@99cent
If you read the story from the link above you'll see where Patience jonathan called a Local Govt chairman "that boy". Will you protest this? You know in Africa, it's degrading to call a man a boy.

What d'you say?

Oh plz. stop making things up.
what does your mom and elderly sisters and aunties call you? don't lie, they call u "boy"

if they are age-mates, then I will find it rude.

Anything that actually makes too much noise to be recognised, considered itself to be inferior in the first place. Such is the case of feminism. Story tellers who try to jump into business of critical thinking may end up not help matters in any way.