modextus: never expected such Λ comment from anyone, this should be something we should be proud of.it shouldn't be something we should start digging out facts from.

This are the kinds of movies that should start making nigerians like myself pick intrest in home made movies.

franciseromosel:

'Enlongated the novel unnecessarily',how?I don't agree with you,CA is so good dat she barely waste her details and words,every single scene was instrumental to the over-all novel. I feel HOAYS is about the best novel out of Nigeria and of course CA is a global brand,in the class of DAN BROWN

No comment but I can't hold back my laughter

speedyboi:
bro, Villageboi is not one of those always dissing Nigerian stuffs, He is a constructive critic. I understand you though.

VillageBoi:

Teehee, that our blogger friend is a funny guy.

The film industry is a fickle one. For me, even if it is shot on the moon it SHOULD be called a NOLLYWOOD film but there is a difference. For example I call evey Indian film Bollywood; Indians will want to 'honour-kill' you if you call the wrong film Bollywood... Duh?? Same as many US indie films not being called Hollywood.

Crew shouldn't really matter afterall all a number of brilliantly Yankee films have cinematographers and DPs with names ending in the letters '...SKI' na Polish or whatever people be that na! (could be because Poland has one of the best films schools in the world in Lodz).

Nollywood is good, Nollywood is great... proud to be Nigerian!

rhymz: My guy, there is something you are not putting into consideration before making conclusions that Nigerians are not big on spending at cinemas or seeing movies in general.
The fact here is that investment is still coming in the way of "movie going" or going out of the house to see a movie at the cinemas. The greatest impedence here is not lack of interest to see these movies at the cinemas but the availabilty of major cinemas that actually get the viewing rights to latest movies soon as they are released. Apart from Lagos, Abuja and Portharcourt, there is hardly anywhere in Nigeria one can go out to see this movies. Trust me, they will hit the million dollar mark if it was that easy to just get tickets anywhere out side of these big 3 and see these movies either simulteneously or closely after previous showings at majors cinemas in major states.
You don't expect Nigerians in say owerri for instance to start travelling down say to Portharcourt just because they want to see a movie, that will be preposterous. There should be some effort as well by movie investors to spread standard cinemas like those of Silvabirds in other Nigerian towns, it does not always have to be Lagos PH and Abuja, more Nigerians live outside these states that want to see these movie at the cinemas too.

ShyM-X:


Hotel Rwanda gatts the juice.. Don Cheadle Rusesabagina murked it - and he should have won an oscar for his performance... Anyway, I trust Chiwetel Ejiofor and John Boyega to murk this one as well...

Definitely watching..

Abbey2sam:

I see your point, but its a gradual process......
And making films that will grab part of global audience, I think that where nollywood is lagging behind and will never make any tangible profit without global audience

Nice one from nollywood though

DarryOsh:
this got me thinking. Can hotel rwanda b considered a rwandan movie? I dont think so. So really what makes a movie nigerian or not

speedyboi:

right now, I think Nollywood films are good enough to grab global audience....but they need to strike deals with world giant distribution companies. I think this is the only part Government is useful so far!

uche16: i just hope they get the igbo acccent right and why was genevieve not given a bigger role in the movie......i always knew that she couldn't act

DarryOsh:
this got me thinking. Can hotel rwanda b considered a rwandan movie? I dont think so. So really what makes a movie nigerian or not

londoner:


Well....because it was made for such a film as this.

It is said to host some of the best equipment for post production that Nigeria has. The studio should not be a project that does no reach its potential or just another waste of money.

IF the film ends up as one of international standards, including post production etc.....maybe people will not feel the need to go outside of Nigeria for certain things, including music vids.

I'm sick o the back teeth of seeing Naija artists jet off to SA.....just to come back with a video set inside or in a dark parking lot..........we need to back our own, where we can. That way, we can grow and learn, rather than just discounting what we have, from the get go.

speedyboi:

@bolded....this film is an international co-production...that has always been my stand.
I can call it a British/Nigerian Production....and since there's no difference, i can go ahead to call it British/Nollywood....No police go catch me. .

Do you notice that when hollywood films are shot on Locations, they handle the studio scenes in Hollywood, CA? British films make use of their studios as well. But, why they come use Tinapa for this one na?
You know what i think? I think in a well regulated country, the way this production is carried out, another country can't do it in US or UK...without needing to battle for some rights...or having to credit the industry hosting as part of the production.

Meanwhile, the major reason why i bolded that part in the thread post was just to indicate that (contrary to what some Nairalanders think), there are studios in Nigeria. Infact them plenty (independent mostly)

i think you should re-read the post which you replied, cos the one you quoted is halfway written; I mistakenly submitted it.

speedyboi:
right now, I think Nollywood films are good enough to grab global audience....but they need to strike deals with world giant distribution companies. I think this is the only part Government is useful so far!

omar22:



Well to market a movie world wide cost more than the budget of most Nolly stuff....

VillageBoi:

I don't think the Government will be of much use there. The films have to be very good and have to pass ALL of the 'paperwork' requirements. Even some really good indie US films cannot get a cinema or TV distribution deal because of a single lousy bit of paper.

speedyboi:

true. But there are independent distribution companies. But as you said...lots of processes. But i think it will be easier if Government helps. I don't think what is holding Nollywood productions from global distribution is quality, but connections. But i think this will soon be over.

I wa[b]tched an interview with Tony Abulu on Doctor Bello movie. He categorically said that there's now a form of contract between Nigerian and US Government to start screening Nigerian Movies[/b] (his movie debuted on US big screens which is a proof). I think they can pull such strings on Distribution as well.

VillageBoi:

@ Bolded - That is very good news.

On screening - screening a movie on US is screens is not a big deal... anything can be put on any cinema screen anywhere. One of the shorts I DP'd (Une Clope - https://www.nairaland.com/1105305/une-clope-short-film-nsfw) debuted at the Prince Charles Cinema here in London... it's absolutely not a big deal at all.

The BIG deal is getting a distribution deal... and that, I pretty much doubt the Govt can do that much about.

speedyboi:
wao! Well, i know little about film distribution. I just know its a long process. I will try and look it up anyways.

:
A movie funded by Nigerians, written by Nigerians, shot in Nigeria, starring Nigerians, about Nigerian historic events isn't Nollywood because it's big budget? Na wow for local champion mentality.

cnario:
Probably the most sensible comment on this thread.

A lot of people need to understand the "business of film making"; having film making skills and 'doing' the film business are two separate things.

Kingsley OGBITI: Go get your original copy when it comes out

speedyboi: Take note of the bolded parts.





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ozo_emeka:
where is omotola in this?

VillageBoi:

Exactly... it is a British/Naija production. One of the things is the international industries have such complex contracts, deals, specs and all sorts of stuff that is harder to understand than rocket science. By the time one gets into Chain of Title, Clearances, Clauses, Errors & Omissions... for each film hundreds, and for some, possibly thousands of copyrights are being created during the making. Some think it's a walk-in-the-park pure glamorous industry... it isn't. And we know we Naija people & copyrights lol.

It's weird... just like some Hollywood films shot in Britain that are completely owned by Hollywood. Hollywood uses LOCATIONS all around the world. Personally I'd rather prefer to get into bed with the Brits, Canadians, French, Germans blah, blah but not Hollywood - they are deadly

lol @ the Bolded bit you highlighted I was joking there. At the start of this thread I mentioned it isn't 'Nollywood' as per say. It's a co-prod that can at most be called Nigerian.

VillageBoi:

Yeah, it's a tough one... the best deals are the holy grail that all filmmakers want to get. And Hollywood have the money to smash their way into opening a film on 3000+ screens. Oh well, they practically own the cinemas in their pockets... historically Hollywood studios WERE the distributors... then I think their Govt come vex say they all be thief lololol.

ozo_emeka:
where is omotola in this?

speedyboi:
True the part you said most Hollywood distributors are their studios. I just wonder if Nigerian Government can make Tinapa studios an international distribution giant. yea I know I'm asking for too much; they will have to battle distribution rights here and there blah blah...but its not totally impossible, is it?

VillageBoi:

That's very interesting... not sure if they can turn it into an international distribution hub BUT they probably can have a hand in turning it into a 'Nationwide' distribution hub.

The sad thing about Tinapa Studios is no one uses it. I think HOAYS is first feature film shot there (I might be wrong on that, let anyone that actually knows contribute some facts). As said before in a different post the location of the sudio is weird. It's not in 'Nollywood' filmmaking land (ie Lagos), regular Nolly budgets will not stretch far enough to fly cast, crew, kit down there and put them up in hotels... the whole thing just didn't make much sense to be located there. There is also another problem - even if it were in Lagos... no Nolly film would pay the prices Tinapa charges. Even HOAYS (not verified) got huge help from Cross River State Govt... I wonder why?

I have gone in the wrong direction - So 'National' distribution hub. I like that idea but I don't know how the Fed Govt can make it work since A) - it's a studio and they don't really distribute B) - It's in the middle of nowhere useful.

It's just a shame to see it go to waste like many other 'white elephants'. They can't rely on some co-production every few years to use it. Ah, I'm twiddling my thumbs... I have no ideas. Tinapa is a tough one.

Didn't there use to be an Ogunde film village or something? Was it ever built? Anyone know anything about it? Oh dear, I just googled it... another project abandoned and left to rot away... Oh well, we Nigerians can be a ridiculously stupid lot sometimes.

speedyboi:

No need for National distribution....almost every 'responsible' independent filmmaker in Naija has a studio which distributes. From Kunle Afolayan's Golden Effects Studios, Obi Emelonye's Nollywood Factory, etc. So it's highly unnecessary.

Contrary to what you said, I don't think the studio is a white elephant project. It doesn't have to be in Lagos for serious filmmakers to use it, It's just that; most independent filmmakers have their own studios.

And about the price; I've learn't that in Naija, Things have to be expensive to clear away the 'nuisance' and 'unserious elements'. You think if the studio were cheap it wouldn't have been taken over by mediocre filmmakers?

What i think is that; the Tinapa studios should be the one to start projects (just like Hollywood studios and every other Public studios), and it should be massive budgets. And of course professional filmmakers will be hired to execute the productions.

The area Tinapa can be useful in distribution is to go Global (Atleast within Africa for a start). Even Alaba guys dey distribute movies Nationwide, That's no big deal!

VillageBoi:

Ah I get what you mean now. I've been talking about something different.

The studios you mentioned are just like production offices/outfits... not studios as I meant. Tinapa, I was made to understand (remember I've not been there), is a 'studio' in the sense of a purpose-built 'filming' studio... you know a huge thing sometimes many, many times the size of a plane hangar where you can build massive sets for full control of your filming... I was talking about, practically, giant structures with sound stages and everything else. Not the "My film company is called VillagBoi FACTORY STUDIO"

Studios in the sense of - (Pinewood Studios UK and Stone Street Studios Newzealand - both used to film The Hobbit)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcYXlFUBPNs

These studios do not make films, they are just where you build GIANT sets if needed. They also do not DISTRIBUTE films. So purpose-built filming studios like this is something Nollywood doesn't really use, hence Tinapa possibly going to waste. Stone Street Studio NZ is 8 acres of land and Pinewood UK is is possibly over 200... they are almost cities!

The confusion stemmed from what I meant by 'studio'... Hollywood Studios like MGM, Universal, Warner Bros and so on are 'film production' companies that also happen to have 'purpose-built filming studios'... that's what Tinapa is supposed to be. Even here in the industry people do loosely use 'studio' to mean production company or so.