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| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 11:26am On Jun 13, 2006 |
Food4tot, You must be pulling my leg! That is great news! ![]() So now that we know that Nigerians may have some concept of what Blackskin means. It shouldn't be that hard to teach them the word ''American''. After they learn the word ''American'', then they can be taught to put the two together: Adulawo American. Black American. It must be the word American that is confusing Nigerians and the reason they need to say Akata. I think we should start teaching Nigerians right away that somebody named Columbus discovered some land over here and now it is called America. And in America they have a tribe of people called Adulawo. So these people call themselves Adulawo Americans. And they like being called Adulawo Americans. They think you should respect what they call themselves and learn the word. And imagine, some Nigerians have been known to be upset if you do not pronounce their long names correctly. I am sure that Nigerians in Africa once learning about the land on the otherside of the world, would understand why Adulawo Americans prefer to be called by their name and not some slang word for them. Who would have thunk it? |
| Re: Akata? by bluenubian(f): 3:14pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
yeah i believe its a negative word, but that wont stop me from using it, heck most of them dont know the meaning of it anyways. like the saying goes what you dont know wont hurt u |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 3:35pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
bluenubian, you should get spanked for that statement you made.Before you go on reading meaning to my next comment please note that the meaning of a word gets lost over time. But you keep refering to people using what you knew about them. PLEASE, IT IS NOT A DEROGATIVE WORD, NEVER WAS. The news people in africa heard was that the slaves were not taken away for any form of punishment or sacrifice but they were in fact taken away to work on farms. Hence the Yoruba word A ka ata; meaning someone who plucks pepper. A (someone who) Ka: pluck Ata: Pepper Which could literally mean, "pepper plucker" This is not meant to be derogatory, people are known by their profession. A student is "Akeko" someone who learns culture. or to make more sense the direct translation should be "culture learner". This doesn't mean that every word that starts with "a" has something to do with profession or vise versa. Just as you have "er"/"or" in english you also have "a"/"o" in Yoruba. A teacher is "oluko" meaning, someone who teaches. "Olu" means someone who , Hence, words like OLUKUMI -pronounced LUKUMI (someone who is my kind). This is getting complicated "O" is the main thing, what comes after it e.g. "lu" as in the case of "OLU" is dependent on the word that comes after it. e.g. A word of insult like the english word silly Bastard is "Oloriburuku" O="Someone who" Ori="Head" Bad="Buruku" Gosh!! it gets even more complicated, I give up. |
| Re: Akata? by Rhodalyn(f): 3:38pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
@blue ![]() I second U! ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by bluenubian(f): 3:41pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
@food4tot u remind me of my yoruba teacher that made me pay 1 naira evry time i spoke english in his class. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 3:47pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
hehehe ![]() I wish I am half as good as your yoruba teacher. |
| Re: Akata? by bluenubian(f): 3:50pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
he was a |
| Re: Akata? by Rhodalyn(f): 3:51pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Lmao blue ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 3:58pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
food4tot, Come now. I am well aware that even Nigerians are ignorant of what Yoruba words mean. But surely you know that Akata refers to a littel animal that lives in Sugar cane fields and eats sugar cane. It is more or less a proper name, it is not divisible in the way that you have just divided it. Akata is one indivisible word, like Marie or Thomas. Any African American who hears somebody calling them an Akata, should have the exact reaction Hero did and cuss the person out. Better yet, pull out a roll of toilet paper and offer to send it to Nigeria for their mama to learn of this new toilet paper technology. It's an insult. Why play? |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 4:12pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
LOL lmaoOKETE: Bush Rat OKUTE: Rat (but normally simply called EKU) |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 4:15pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
That's what I thought. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 4:16pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
names are compound words fused together to become a word. Like, OLUWASEUN is a word. The name of the adminstrator of this site. but it can be broken into OLUWA (our maker) OSEUN (thanks for what you've done) the word means thanks to god for what he/she has done (there is no such thing as HE or SHE in yoruba) |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 4:28pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Yoruba can be a very complex language, some words sometimes get abbreviated to the extent that you loose recognition of its origin. SEUN means (Done something) but the message you are passing across is I acknowledge that you've done something IN SIMPLE TERMS, THAT IS THANK YOU !!! people simply interpret "SEUN" as "THANKS" |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 4:35pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Food4tot, Seun, for the information. I appreciate it. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 5:28pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
You are welcome, But simply saying seun is not grammatically right. It goes to show that I'm a bad teacher. It makes better sense when it is OSEUN or OSE the "s" is pronounced "sh" In this case, "o" is different from the preceeding "o" in OLUWASEUN. It carries a different meaning. In this case it means : YOU OSE: YOU HAVE DONE IT! OSEUN: YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING! OSE is more commonly used and it simply means THANK YOU ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by Nia: 5:58pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
@ foot4tot I agree with Drusilla on the breaking down of "akata". It's one word that wasn't meant to be broken down. It's a common name (similar to "oyinbo"). Furthermore, the pronounciation and inflection in pronounciation is different. The way you'd pronounce akata as in pepper picker is not the same as the pronounciation for the word being used to describe Afro- Americans. |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 6:07pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
In this case, the English standard for the word Niggardly or anything close to it, is widely known. So no matter how much the speaker would claim ignorance, it did not fly.Drusilla, I lost you here. . .niggardly is an actually word that is widely known to mean "provided in meanly limited supply". "Niggardly is a word synonymous with stingy and miserly, and a niggard (noun) is a miser. They are both derived from the Old Norse verb nigla, meaning "to fuss about small matters". (The English word "niggle" retains the original Norse meaning.)" "The Howard incident led to a national debate in the U.S., in the context of racial sensitivity and political correctness, on whether use of the word niggardly should be avoided because of its potential association with the extremely pejorative racial slur nigger, despite the entirely separate and unrelated etymologies of the two words ("nigger" derives from niger, the Latin for "black" ."It has no relation to the word "niger". So, again, I will not be ruled by another's ignorance in respect to this word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggardly http://m-w.com/dictionary/niggardly |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 6:16pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Food4tot, very interesting. I agree with 90% of what you've said thus far. I think the word prolly has Yoruba origins and can say amongst none Yoruba speakers it's spoken sans history.Nia, so what do you understand the Yoruba origins to be? (I want to know b/c I'm not above changing my opinoin.) Drusilla:Er, yes and no. Drusilla:Who lied to you Do you really think that Nigerians have such a strong concept of sugar canes (or interest in them for that matter) that we'd name the animal that lives in the cane fields!?!?!?!? This is someone's brilliant imagination. Papermoon's perhap? ![]() Drusilla:And you are certain b/c. . .? Why. . .? Are you a scholar on Nigerian pidgin? Yoruba language? Igbo loan words? What? I'm trying to understand your expertise. Drusilla:I'm confused but then again anything to teach Mummy new words. We're still on purple. |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 6:33pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Well, I know it means FOREIGNER but more often, it means AFRICAN AMERICAN. As per origin, I have given you the piece I know. I am willing to change my view if you give me a better explanation to the word "akata" |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 6:45pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Um, are you talking to me? |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 6:51pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
chinani: NOPE, not you. My comment is directed to NIA and indirectly to Drusilla. Just to let them know I am open to a different explanation. |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 6:59pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
oic. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 7:30pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Foof4tot, Ose! ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 7:33pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Nia, Oyi = wind nbo = mutant Oyinbo = mutant who left africa ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 7:41pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Drusilla:Er, is there some sort of Yoruba/English dictionary you're consulting? |
| Re: Akata? by food4tot(f): 7:42pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
LOL, ![]() now thats funny, never heard of nbo being mutant. some say it means skinless, I never bought that idea but it is interesting to note that "bo" is the verb peel. I couldn't break it up meaningully so I believe it is one word. It means white man, (not only in the european sense though) albinos are called oyinbo, even chinese are also called oyinbo. |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 7:50pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Chinani, chinani: That is a simple yet profound statement. Say no more. I understand exactly what happenned now. Have a good day. |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 7:58pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
food4tot, Full Albino = White Leucistic Albino = Yellow Leucistic is often referred to as Partial Albino. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by chinani(f): 8:08pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Drusilla:So you are spouting gibberish now that your logic fails to hold water? With people like you who can not answer simple questions and triumph in taking comments out of context it is no wonder you are so easily offended. . .You lost meChinani, |
| Re: Akata? by Hero(m): 8:13pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
food4tot: I thought the Chinese are called Chinko. |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 8:18pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Hero, Dat's jus wrong. ![]() |
| Re: Akata? by Drusilla(f): 8:25pm On Jun 13, 2006 |
Chinani, It's just a post. So why the insults? |
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