Rossikk: The bible is essentially a rip-off of the ancient Sumerian texts. Many parts of the bible are verbatim copies of the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh. In these Sumerian texts, which existed at least a thousand years before Genesis was written, Yahweh and Satan are basically presented as two brothers, the extraterrestrials Enki and Enlil. Enki was the director of the creation of man by virtue of permission granted him by Anu, the chief ruler of the Annunaki, and father of both.

Enlil was Enki's older brother who was wary of Enki's propensity to 'overdo things', in this case, trying to fashion a being that would equal the Annunaki in intellect and power. Enlil was opposed to this, and sabotaged Enki's plans. It was actually Enki who placed man in the 'Garden of Eden' ('Edin' in the Sumerian texts)

After Enlil threatened the new race (man) to obey him alone, Enki approached 'Eve' and told her to ignore Enlil, and 'eat of the fruit of life', so that she could gain intellect. She did, and gave Adam, who 'ate' as well. This enraged Enlil, who drove them out of 'Eden'. Enki provided them with clothes and food when they were thrown out. This is where the bible gets deceptive. In the bible they write that Yahweh did it all, ie put them in the garden, drove them out, and then clothed them and fed them when they'd been driven out. In the Sumerian epics, it was very different, as shown.

The bible and koran are essentially Enlilian documents, brandished by Enlil's followers, painted to make Enlil the 'good God' and Enki 'the evil one'. Christianity and Islam are both Enlilian religions, with Enkian faiths largely relegated to the background, their followers having suffered historical defeats to Enlilian forces, and their faiths now dismissed as evil, savage, and retrogressive (eg African religion, Asian religion, European Celts etc).

But if there's anything we've learned from human history it is that BOTH Enki and Enlil will have their respective periods of dominance. Question today is, how long has Enlil got before Enki strikes back to reclaim his inheritance??

One thing you CAN be sure of is, Enki will not stand idly by while Enlilian religions and divisive philosophies cause the destruction of mankind. Before that occurs, Enki WILL intervene to stop it.

Rossikk: ^^ Nice one!

kwangi: Mehn!
Been reading up on the whole Annunaki, Enki...
Have always come across this. Can't believe I ignored it all these years.
I don't even know why. I can be very lazy!
That's not to say I've not always detested yahweh... That guy wicked sha...
Enki na my guy anytime.

plaetton: @Rossik.
I don't believe that Yahweh and Enlil were the same characters. Enlil was the highest ranking custodial god who enjoyed great power and influence in ancient Sumet and Akkad. Despite his meanness and dislike for humans, he still had authority and respect.
From simple psychology, the yahweh character, on the other hand, seemed insecure, low ranking, desperate and pathetic: a god without a domain. That's why he adopted a bunch of tent dwelling Hebrews to mold to his character and taste.
In the bible, we can clearly see his low self-esteem and his mortal fear of Egyptian and BabylonIan gods of high rank.

ROSSIKE:

This is long but rewarding:


Excerpt:

In the ancient Sumerian texts, it is EN.LIL who, having been strongly against the creation of human slaves, believes it to be fate that mankind be destroyed by the approaching calamity, as mankind was an unnatural abomination created for unethical purposes. In the biblical version (chapter 6 of Genesis), it is YHVH who voices his unhappiness with Mankind and makes the decision to wipe Mankind off the face of the Earth.
In the tale's conclusion, as Ziusudra/Utnapishtim offers sacrifices on Mount Ararat, it is EN.LIL who is attracted by the pleasant smell of roasting meat and accepts the survival of Mankind, forgives EN.KI for breaking his vow, and blesses Ziusudra and his wife. In Genesis, it is to YHVH that Noah builds an altar and sacrifices animals on it, and it was YHVH "who smelled the pleasant aroma." EN.LIL, whose name means "Lord of the Command”, was leader of the Anunnaki who were on Earth. It was a situation that corresponds to the statement in Psalms 97:9:


For thou, O YHVH, art
supreme over the whole Earth;
most supreme art Thou over
all the Elohim.


The elevation of EN.LIL to this status is described
in the Atra-Hasis Epic in the introductory verses,
prior to the mutiny of the gold-mining Anunnaki:


Anu, their father, was the ruler;
Their commander was the hero EN.LIL.
Their warrior was Ninurta;
Their provider was MAR.DUK.
They all clasped hands together,
cast lots and divided:
Anu ascended to heaven;
The Earth to EN.LIL was made subject.
The bounded realm of the sea
to princely EN.KI they had given.


After Anu had gone up to heaven, EN.KI went down to the Abzu [southern Africa, were homo sapiens was fashioned] After Anu, the ruler on Nibiru, returned to Nibiru after visiting Earth, it was EN.LIL who summoned and resided over the council of the Great Anunnaki whenever major decisions had to be made. At various times of crucial decisions - such as to create The Adam, to divide the Earth into four regions, to institute Kingship as both buffer and liaison between the Anunnaki gods and Mankind, as well as in times of crisis between the Anunnaki themselves, when their rivalries erupted into wars and even use of nuclear weapons - "The Anunnaki decree the fates sat exchanging their counsels." Typical was the manner in which one discussion is
described in part: "EN.KI addressed to EN.LIL words of lauding:


O one who is foremost among the brothers, Bull of Heaven,
who the fate of Mankind holds.


But EN.LIL would always turn to each member of the Council to let him or her have a say.

The monotheistic Bible lapses several times into describing YHVH in like manner, chairing an assembly of lesser deities, usually called Bnei-elim - "sons of gods." The Book of Job begins its tale of the suffering of a righteous man by describing how the test of his faith in God was the result of a suggestion made by Satan "one day, when the sons of the Elohim came to present themselves before YHVH." "The Lord stands in the assembly of the gods, among the Elohim He judges," we read in Psalms 82:1. "Give unto YHVH, o sons of gods, give unto YHVH glory and might," Psalms 29:1 stated, "bow to YHVH, majestic in holiness." The requirement that even the "sons of the gods" bow to the Lord paralleled the Sumerian description of the status of EN.LIL as the Commander in Chief: "The Anunnaki humble themselves before him, the Igigi bow down willingly before him; they stand by faithfully for the instructions."

It is an image of EN.LIL that matches the exaltation in the Song of Miriam after the miraculous crossing of the Sea of Reeds:


Who is like thee among the gods, YHVH? Who is like
thee mighty in holiness, awesome in praises, the maker
of miracles?
(Exodus 15:11).


As far as personal characters were concerned, EN.KI, the fashioner of Mankind who created humans to be slaves, was hedonistic and morally lax, as he delighted in promiscuity and merry making. EN.LIL was righteous, upstanding, and ethically uncompromising, unhesitant to mete out punishments when punishment was due. He viewed adversely the intermarriage between Nefilim and the "daughters of Man." When the evils of Mankind became overbearing, he was willing to see it perish by the Deluge, as he perceived the morally deficient humans as being genetic abominations. His strictness with other Anunnaki, even his own offspring, was illustrated when his son Nannar (the Moon god Sin) lamented the imminent desolation of his city Ur by the deathly nuclear cloud wafting from the Sinai.

Harshly EN.LIL told him: "Ur was indeed granted Kingship; but an everlasting reign it was not granted." EN.LIL's character had at the same time another side, a rewarding one. When the people carried out their tasks, when they were forthright and god-fearing, EN.LIL on his part saw to the needs of all, assured the land's and the people's wellbeing and prosperity. The Sumerians lovingly called him "Father EN.LIL" and "Shepherd of the teeming multitudes." A Hymn to EN.LIL, the All-Beneficent stated that without him "no cities would be built, no settlements founded; no stalls would be built, no sheepfolds erected; no king would be raised, no high priest born." The last statement recalled the fact that it was EN.LIL who had to approve the choice of kings, and by whom the line of Priesthood extended from the sacred precinct of the "cult center" Nippur.

These two characteristics of EN.LIL - strictness and punishment for transgressions, benevolence and protection when merited - are similar to how YHVH has been pictured in the Bible. YHVH can bless and YHVH can accurse, the Book of Deuteronomy explicitly states (11:26). If the divine commandments shall be followed, the people and their offspring shall be blessed, their crops shall be plentiful, their livestock shall multiply, their enemies shall be defeated, they shall be successful in whatever trade they choose; but if they forsake YHVH and his commandments, they, their homes and their fields shall be accursed and shall suffer afflictions, losses, deprivations, and famines (Deuteronomy 28). "YHVH thy Elohim is a merciful God," Deuteronomy 4:31 stated; He is a vengeful God, the same Deuteronomy stated a chapter later (5:9) . . . It was YHVH who determined who shall be the priests; it was He who stated the rules for Kingship (Deuteronomy 17:16) and made clear that it will be He who chooses the king - as indeed was the case centuries after the Exodus, beginning with the selection of Saul and David.

In all that, YHVH and EN.LIL emulated each other. Significant, too, for such a comparison was the importance of the numbers seven and fifty. They are not physiologically obvious numbers (we do not have seven fingers on a hand), nor does their combination fit natural phenomena (7 x 50 is 350, not the 365.25 days of a solar year). The "week" of seven days approximates the length of a lunar month (about 28.5 days) when multiplied by four, but where does the four come from? Yet the Bible introduced the count of seven, and the sanctity of the seventh day as the sacred Sabbath, from the very beginning of divine activity.

The accursation of Cain was to last through seven times seven generations; Jericho was to be circled seven times so that its walls would fall down; many of the priestly rites were required to be repeated seven times, or to last seven days. Of a more lasting commandment, the New Year Festival was deliberately shifted from the first month Nisan to the seventh month Tishrei and the principal holidays were to last seven days. The number fifty was the principal numerical feature in the construction and equipping of the Ark of the Covenant and the Tabernacle and an important element in the future Temple envisioned by Ezekiel. It was a calendrical count of days in priestly rites; Abraham persuaded the Lord to spare Sodom if fifty just men would be found there.

More important, a major social and economic concept of a Jubilee Year in which slaves would be set free, real property would revert to its sellers and so on, was instituted. It was to be the fiftieth year: "Ye shall hallow the fiftieth year and proclaim freedom throughout the land," was the commandment in Leviticus chapter 25. Both numbers, seven and fifty, were associated in Mesopotamia with EN.LIL. He was "the god who is seven" because, as the highest-ranking Anunnaki leader on Earth, he was in command of the planet which was the seventh planet. And in the numerical hierarchy of the Anunnaki, in which Anu held the highest numeral 60, EN.LIL (as his intended successor on Nibiru) held the numerical rank of fifty (EN.KI's numerical rank was forty).

Significantly, when MAR.DUK took over the supremacy on Earth circa 2000 B.C., one of the measures taken to signify his ascendancy was to grant him fifty names, signifying his assumption of the Rank of Fifty. The similarities between YHVH and EN.LIL extend to other aspects. Though he might have been depicted on cylinder seals (which is not certain, since the representation might have been of his son Ninurta), he was by and large an unseen god, ensconced in the innermost chambers of his ziggurat or altogether away from Sumer. In a telltale passage in the Hymn to EN.LIL, the All-Beneficent it is thus said of him:


When in his awesomeness he decrees the fates,
no god dares look at him;
Only to his exalted emissary, Nusku,
the command, the word that is in his heart,
does he make known.


“No man can see me and live“, YHVH told Moses in a similar vein; and His words and commandments were known through Emissaries and Prophets. Abraham's forefathers were Enlilites - their god was EN.LIL. YHVH's chosen people were the ones who were already worshiping him; EN.LIL, the wisest of the gods, simply reinvented himself as YHVH for Mankind's benefit.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message194727/pg1

Niflheim: He is innocent and God is guilty!!!

olire: it is people like you that love satan that endorse men f.ucking each others yansh.

Rossikk:

Actually it is your 'God' loving priests who are much better known for such activities.

Niflheim: @olire,are you confusing me with the catholics who sleep with kids,or the anglican church that endorsed Elton John's wedding?

olire: they don't yansh boys o, its gals dey yansh. Even though they do it in secret. But you gys in d name of liberalty want to make "Adam and steve" official.

Rossikk:
First off, Christian priests have been accused of sexually moles.ting members of their congregation including women, boys, girls and men. Also, there are a preponderance of gay christian priests, including self-confessed gay priests.

You need to go on Google and read up on the numerous scandals involving your clergy, instead of coming here to deceive yourself.

Niflheim: @olire,are you confusing me with the catholics who sleep with kids,or the anglican church that endorsed Elton John's wedding?

olire: ok so wats ur stance on "adam and steve"

Rossikk:
The bible is essentially a rip-off of the ancient Sumerian texts. Many parts of the bible are verbatim copies of the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh. In these Sumerian texts, which existed at least a thousand years before Genesis was written, Yahweh and Satan are basically presented as two brothers, the extraterrestrials Enki and Enlil. Enki was the director of the creation of man by virtue of permission granted him by Anu, the chief ruler of the Annunaki, and father of both.

Enlil was Enki's older brother who was wary of Enki's propensity to 'overdo things', in this case, trying to fashion a being that would equal the Annunaki in intellect and power. Enlil was opposed to this, and sabotaged Enki's plans. It was actually Enki who placed man in the 'Garden of Eden' ('Edin' in the Sumerian texts)

After Enlil threatened the new race (man) to obey him alone, Enki approached 'Eve' and told her to ignore Enlil, and 'eat of the fruit of life', so that she could gain intellect. She did, and gave Adam, who 'ate' as well. This enraged Enlil, who drove them out of 'Edin'. Enki provided them with clothes and food when they were thrown out. This is where the bible gets deceptive. In the bible they write that Yahweh did it all, ie put them in the garden, drove them out, and then clothed them and fed them when they'd been driven out. In the Sumerian epics, it was very different, as shown.

The bible and koran are essentially Enlilian documents, brandished by Enlil's followers, painted to make Enlil the 'good God' and Enki 'the evil one'. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are Enlilian religions, with Enkian faiths largely relegated to the background, their followers having suffered historical defeats to Enlilian forces, and their faiths now dismissed as evil, savage, and retrogressive (eg African religion, Asian religion, European Celts etc).

But if there's anything we've learned from human history it is that BOTH Enki and Enlil will have their respective periods of dominance. Question today is, how long has Enlil got before Enki strikes back to reclaim his inheritance??

One thing you CAN be sure of is, Enki will not stand idly by while Enlilian religions and divisive philosophies cause the destruction of mankind. Before that occurs, Enki WILL intervene to stop it. A shift seems to be occurring already. Traditional Enkian outposts like China, Africa, and India are on the rise, economically, as Enlilian strongholds of Europe and North America slip into long-term decline. Enkian religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism and African religion will see a revival in the coming years, as the tables start to turn...

ikorodureporta:
A thread for Freemasons


whoeva is wize shld know d diff. btw Good & Bad

Rossikk:


The Bible God Is Actually Satan, And Satan God