trenchcoat:

And this ladies and gentlemen is a textbook example of the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority.


If you cannot believe your former brethren, a man that has gone beyond your scope of knowing what Christianity is and you still call that fallacy then I am disappointed.

Get to understand that some Muslims do not practice Islam, they only say they are Muslims,armed robbers that robbed the bank in Katsina were caught dressed in Turban and shouting Allahu Akbar, were found out not to be Muslims but Christians,now what were they portraying? Muslims shouting Islamic words,they did that to deceive the public and show that they are Mislims, The Christian caught dressed in Muslim Kaftan trying to burn the Church in Bayelsa was a Muslim I guess, now if he had succeeded wouldn't you be among the first to say "he was a Muslim" or " a Muslim burnt down the Church". I have asked you to show us real evidence of who Muslims killed you could not only to bank on a typed opinion and biased tale.


Last time I checked, I asked for any of you to actually counter the lists of atrocities committed by Boko Haram and other Islam affiliated groups. You've not done that.
It's pointless and a waste of time to argue with you after giving you and shown you proofs, what she posted was mere typed text, we gave you links to sites to check and some footage but you don't want to agree, tell me what is the reason for us to waste our time when we know you are poised not to agree with what we say?

Members of Boko Haram say they're Muslims fighting for an Islamic state.

They said that, but I do not agree with that because they are not real Muslims, they are going contrary to the doctrines of Islam. I asked you if Jerry Gana was a Muslim but you skipped the question,Wiki leaks are far better than you in terms of research and knowledge but instead of you to figure it out you are busy talking trash, well if you can contradict or deny what your former brethren said who am I for you to agree with. I need to move ahead because I thought I was interacting with an intellect but rather wasting my time with someone that enjoys in arguing clueless and blindly with not a single fact but only clinging to "conspiracy thoughts and theories". I need to get me a better task to deal with not to spend time in arguing with a baseless and fact-less chap.

thehomer:

If 25% or less of what was posted is true, then 75% or more is false. That means it should be easy for you to show us the ones that are false. So, which ones are false? Do you have a compilation of Christians going on rampage to murder Muslims?

Cityguy:
well my friend, if that is done i wouldn't be suprised cos it will only go to complement d other ones.

thehomer: Members of Boko Haram say they're Muslims fighting for an Islamic state. You just sit back and say they're not Muslims because they've done something bad. Is it the case that no Muslim can ever do something bad? .

Naijacitizen: Another question to Dr Zakir Naik - Is prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned in Bible?



Answered by Dr Zakir:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al- Araf chapter 7
verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger,
the unlettered
Prophet, whom they find mentioned
in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the
Old Testament:
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH)
PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in
Book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from
among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put
my words
in his mouth; and he shall speak
unto them all
that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to
Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh)
was like Moses
(pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as
well as Jesus
(pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet
and Jesus (pbuh) was also a
Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for
this prophecy
to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible
who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon,
Isaiah, Ezekiel,
Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John
the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were
Jews as well as
prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother,
while Jesus
(pbuh) was born miraculously
without any male
intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and
also Al-Qur'an
3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had
children. Jesus
(pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor
had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus
(pbuh) has
been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of
Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of
Jews.
Abraham (pbuh) had two sons:
Ishmail and Isaac
(pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail
(pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac
(pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and
whatever revelations he received
from Almighty
God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from
among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put
my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that
I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18] iv) Both besides being Prophets
were also kings
i.e. they could inflict capital
punishment. Jesus
(pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of
this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets
by their people
in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was
rejected by
his people. John chapter 1 verse 11
states, "He came
unto his own, but his own received
him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new
regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according
to the Bible
did not bring any new laws. (Mathew
5:17-18).
2. It is Mentioned in the book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that
whosoever will
not harken unto my words which he
shall speak in
my name, I will require it of him." 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised
in the book
of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah
chapter 29
verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him
that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray
thee: and he
saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad
(pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he
replied, "I am
not learned".
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is
mentioned by name
in the Song of Solomon chapter 5
verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim
Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna
Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is
altogether
lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O
daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added
for respect.
Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet
Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In
English
translation they have even
translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as
"altogether lovely",
but in the Old Testament in Hebrew,
the name of
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the
New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of
Mary, said, 'O
Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah
(sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which came)
before me and giving glad tidings of
a messenger
to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
But when he came to them with clear
signs, they
said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the
Old Testament regarding Muhammad
(pbuh) besides
applying to the Jews also hold good
for the
Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you
another Comforter, that he may
abide with you
forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come,
whom I will
send unto you from the Father, even
the Spirit of
truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall
testify of
me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse
7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient
for you that I go away: for if I go not
away, the
Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will
send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning
"the one who
praises" or "the praised one" is
almost the
translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel
of John 14:16,
15:26, and 16:7. The word
'Comforter' is used in
the English translation for the Greek
word Paracletos which means advocate or
a kind friend
rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for
Periclytos.
Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by
name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the
Prophet (pbuh)
who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned
in these prophecies refers to the
Holy Sprit. They
fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that
only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter
come. The Bible
states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on
earth before
and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb
of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus
(pbuh) was
being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to
none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse
12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto
you, but ye
cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the
Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all
truth: for he
shall not speak of himself; but
whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you
things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in
this prophecy
referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh)

tbaba1234: Alhumdulillah
Five people have taken their shahahdaas yesterday in Abuja
NIGERIA
In Dr Zakir Naik lecture
May Allah protect our beloved brother Dr Zakir Naik
Ameen and may Allah guide the new Muslims
Ameen

deols:

wow.

were you there?

Naijacitizen: Another question to Dr Zakir Naik - Is prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned in Bible?



Answered by Dr Zakir:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al- Araf chapter 7
verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger,
the unlettered
Prophet, whom they find mentioned
in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the
Old Testament:
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH)
PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in
Book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from
among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put
my words
in his mouth; and he shall speak
unto them all
that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to
Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh)
was like Moses
(pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as
well as Jesus
(pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet
and Jesus (pbuh) was also a
Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for
this prophecy
to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible
who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon,
Isaiah, Ezekiel,
Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John
the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were
Jews as well as
prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother,
while Jesus
(pbuh) was born miraculously
without any male
intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and
also Al-Qur'an
3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had
children. Jesus
(pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor
had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus
(pbuh) has
been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of
Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of
Jews.
Abraham (pbuh) had two sons:
Ishmail and Isaac
(pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail
(pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac
(pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and
whatever revelations he received
from Almighty
God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from
among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put
my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that
I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18] iv) Both besides being Prophets
were also kings
i.e. they could inflict capital
punishment. Jesus
(pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of
this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets
by their people
in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was
rejected by
his people. John chapter 1 verse 11
states, "He came
unto his own, but his own received
him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new
regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according
to the Bible
did not bring any new laws. (Mathew
5:17-18).
2. It is Mentioned in the book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that
whosoever will
not harken unto my words which he
shall speak in
my name, I will require it of him." 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised
in the book
of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah
chapter 29
verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him
that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray
thee: and he
saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad
(pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he
replied, "I am
not learned".
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is
mentioned by name
in the Song of Solomon chapter 5
verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim
Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna
Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is
altogether
lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O
daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added
for respect.
Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet
Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In
English
translation they have even
translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as
"altogether lovely",
but in the Old Testament in Hebrew,
the name of
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the
New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of
Mary, said, 'O
Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah
(sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which came)
before me and giving glad tidings of
a messenger
to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
But when he came to them with clear
signs, they
said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the
Old Testament regarding Muhammad
(pbuh) besides
applying to the Jews also hold good
for the
Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you
another Comforter, that he may
abide with you
forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come,
whom I will
send unto you from the Father, even
the Spirit of
truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall
testify of
me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse
7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient
for you that I go away: for if I go not
away, the
Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will
send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning
"the one who
praises" or "the praised one" is
almost the
translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel
of John 14:16,
15:26, and 16:7. The word
'Comforter' is used in
the English translation for the Greek
word Paracletos which means advocate or
a kind friend
rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for
Periclytos.
Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by
name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the
Prophet (pbuh)
who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned
in these prophecies refers to the
Holy Sprit. They
fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that
only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter
come. The Bible
states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on
earth before
and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb
of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus
(pbuh) was
being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to
none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse
12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto
you, but ye
cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the
Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all
truth: for he
shall not speak of himself; but
whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you
things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in
this prophecy
referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh)

golpen:

I won't take it as you did not get the full content of what dr Zakir Naik said, you only want to try make a point to justify your hate. And probably if you don't, it means you have joined the likes of those that compiled the bible with false, misinterpretated and conflicting informations, passing it around for people to believe. All you guys want to know about him is he said "every muslim should be a terrorist" and you never cared to know what he meant by saying that. You need to be rational in your thinking I said and will still say it again.

golpen:
We have proved to you that the BH sect are not muslims and don't have any islamic objective. What they claim is unislamic we have proven but you christians want to hang because you think you'll get a befitting burial.

golpen:
Palin refered to the killings and molestations in Iraq as a task from God and you say that's mourning, not rejoicing?. Afghanistan haboured a Bin laden who knew nothimg about the 9/11 incident and you think killing every innocent civilian is justifiable in a search of one man?. Hundreds of jews work in the WTC and none of them came to work on that particular 9/11 and you don't still smell a burning meal in your kitchen?.

golpen:
I have told you to take a travel into the world of rationality. That will ease your stress as dr Zakir Naik after successfully finishes his abuja visit, moves in to Lagos next week.

trenchcoat:

And this ladies and gentlemen is a textbook example of the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority.


If you cannot believe your former brethren, a man that has gone beyond your scope of knowing what Christianity is and you still call that fallacy then I am disappointed.

trenchcoat:
Get to understand that some Muslims do not practice Islam, they only say they are Muslims,armed robbers that robbed the bank in Katsina were caught dressed in Turban and shouting Allahu Akbar, were found out not to be Muslims but Christians,now what were they portraying? Muslims shouting Islamic words,they did that to deceive the public and show that they are Mislims, The Christian caught dressed in Muslim Kaftan trying to burn the Church in Bayelsa was a Muslim I guess, now if he had succeeded wouldn't you be among the first to say "he was a Muslim" or " a Muslim burnt down the Church". I have asked you to show us real evidence of who Muslims killed you could not only to bank on a typed opinion and biased tale.

trenchcoat:
Last time I checked, I asked for any of you to actually counter the lists of atrocities committed by Boko Haram and other Islam affiliated groups. You've not done that.
It's pointless and a waste of time to argue with you after giving you and shown you proofs, what she posted was mere typed text, we gave you links to sites to check and some footage but you don't want to agree, tell me what is the reason for us to waste our time when we know you are poised not to agree with what we say?

trenchcoat:
Members of Boko Haram say they're Muslims fighting for an Islamic state.

They said that, but I do not agree with that because they are not real Muslims, they are going contrary to the doctrines of Islam. I asked you if Jerry Gana was a Muslim but you skipped the question,Wiki leaks are far better than you in terms of research and knowledge but instead of you to figure it out you are busy talking trash, well if you can contradict or deny what your former brethren said who am I for you to agree with. I need to move ahead because I thought I was interacting with an intellect but rather wasting my time with someone that enjoys in arguing clueless and blindly with not a single fact but only clinging to "conspiracy thoughts and theories". I need to get me a better task to deal with not to spend time in arguing with a baseless and fact-less chap.

BetaThings:

Do you know how difficult it is to refute what did not happen
We have seen people on NL start stories which eventually turn out to be falsehood
People in those areas typically raise doubts and other repeat those questions before we know the truth
Someone posts a page full of attacks on Christians by Muslims and Christians are still living in those areas?

A few years ago, the Nigerian cyberspace was tense with this FALSEHOOD
The actual event happened in Congo - a tanker explosion that killed a lot of of people watching South Africa 2010 World cup match nearby

This is the actual event

http://www.france24.com/en/20100703-democratic-republic-congo-deaths-explosion-fuel-tanker-fire

What did Christians make of it? This!

"On Saturday, the 8th of January 2011, a Luxury bus departed Maiduguri en route to Lagos. As the bus approached The City of Jos from Bauchi, the bus was stopped at roadblock. Gunmen entered the bus and ordered all Muslims off the bus. These gunmen proceeded to set the bus ablaze with all remaining passengers inside. Most of the victims in the bus were from the Middle Belt and Southern Nigeria, both The East and The West all heading south"

An accident in Congo! Then some Christian minds started working: how do we exploit this? How do we malign muslims with this? How do we use it to set the South against the North?

Now how long did you think it took Muslims to debunk it? One day? No
How many of such fabrications are embedded in the list above by Babyosisi
The Tiv and Jukuns (both Christians) have been at war for as long as I can remember
Umuleri Aguleri too. These are normal and not newsworthy!

My point? Christians want to besmirch Islam and so every clash between neighbours is scripted as an attack by Muslims against Christians. The Christians never attack first!
So who are attacked first in these cases? Muslims on behalf of Christians? Ife/Modakeke; Itsekiri/Urhobo/Ijaw in Warri; Umuleri/Agwuleri - two communities in Ebonyi separated by a road etc

BetaThings:

That might not be the only interpretation
Anna Chapman and "her colleagues" were "patriotic Americans" until they were discovered to be Russian agents planted several years ago in the US

Let me ask you. How has Boko Haram benefited the average Muslim?

thehomer:

Then why don't you say what the "full content" is? You're trying to justify the fact that a Muslim said all Muslims should be terrorists. Take the time to understand what you're trying to justify. If you're so rational and thinking, then say what you think he meant.



No you've not done that. What you've done is to refuse to accept that they're Muslims because you don't want to accept the condemnation they're facing. Not that you don't agree with what they're doing. After all, they've said they're Muslims, they've said they want Sharia law. Which other religion wants Sharia law?



I don't see what relevance Palin has to play here. Before you forget, the person's actions we're looking at Naik. And bin Laden knew nothing about the 9/11 attacks? Are you serious? This is why I have to say that you Muslims are unwilling to face your problems head on. Where did I say that killing every innocent civilian is justified by that? In fact, that is what Zakir Naik said. Again, he said all Muslims should be terrorists. What you're saying about Jews in the WTC is simply a lie based on conspiracy theories. Or do you have a list of those Jews? Because there is a list of Jews who died in that incident.

I know that your hatred of Jews is based on the Qur'an but really at some point, you should have noticed the absurdity of your position.



I already am in the world of rationality that is why I don't embrace conspiracy theories but you on the other hand are just lost.

thehomer:

That isn't how you determine whether or not they're Muslims. After all, they've been as beneficial to Muslims as Al Qaeda and we know Al Qaeda members are Muslims.

thehomer:

Since that list is too long and difficult for you, can you address the list of incidents found here?

thehomer:

You probably just don't understand what a fallacy is.

thehomer:
Where is the evidence for your claims? You're just embarrassing yourself when you show such poor thought patterns. Right now, you're implying that Boko Haram members aren't Muslims but may be Christians shouting Allahu Akbar and dressing in kaftans. This is worse than burying your head in the sand, it is burying your head in the sand, stuffing your ears with wax and just repeating statements that you know nothing about or that you just made up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned civilian targets, cinema, library and American educational center. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone

thehomer:
You don't like that one? Well take a look at this one. Note that it is well referenced. Would you like to counter anyone of them?

thehomer:
Your ignorant refusal to learn is what is holding you back. Merely saying you disagree that they're Muslims because they're not "real Muslims" is just blindingly ignorant. That commits the No True Scotsman fallacy because being a Muslim isn't determined by whether or not one is a terrorist. A terrorist can be a Muslim or belong to some other ideology.

golpen:


Don't be in the league of those that compiled the bible with half baked storiesiiiii!!!! These are his words;

"As far as terrorist is concerned," he said, "I tell the Muslims that every Muslim should be a terrorist. ... What is the meaning of the word terrorist? Terrorist by definition means a person who terrorises. So in this context every Muslim should be a terrorist to each and every anti-social element. I’m aware that terrorist is more commonly used for a person who terrorises innocent human beings. So in this context no Muslim should ever terrorise a single innocent human being."

So tell me what else you want?... His head off his neck?,.. You'll never get that!

golpen:
How else do we proof to you. Why would they kill the muslims who are supposed to practice the sharia, if that's what they crave? Why would they kill the clerics who are to give the guide the people in the sharia they don't even understand? Trying to make you see is just like showing you what you already know. You are only trying to stigmatise the muslims and that's not working for you.

golpen:
Aaaaaahhhh!!!! You need to listen to yourself before clicking the submit icon! I said jews that work there, none of them came that day, and you are willing to give me the names of jews that died in the incident, who may be customers or by any chance, present. Christians a best at misconcepting. It reflects in their bible anyway. It is You who should produce the list of the jews that work there and have had their heads blown up their brains!

golpen:
The architectural analysis revealed that he had nothing to do with it. The buildings came down in seconds - a system of demolition used by architects by planting from the inner parts of the building (the joints), dynamites. I wish you get a clip of it, but I use my phone and don't have the link here.

golpen:
I have told you that you need to be rational and logical in your dealings. By that, you won't have gone too far beyond repair on your wrong track, thinking it is someone else that is lost.

BetaThings:

So you mean the same way Rev King has been beneficial to Christianity?

BetaThings:

No I will do NOTHING of sort.
Whenever our people have misbehaved,we have condemned them because human life, Muslim or non-muslim, is important to us
But when your own people kill muslims and even go as far as making a meal of their bodies, you don't say anything

BetaThings:
Somehow your strange religion seems to convince you that only the life of a Christian is valuable or that it is permissible to concoct lies to tarnish the image of others. We don't agree
Until you answer my questions as to what go on in your minds when you are fabricating wicked stories to besmirch Islam, you are not entitled to a response from me!

BetaThings:
Just a hint: we have proved that you tell lies. Why should we take whatever you say as lies?

BetaThings:

Can you educate us on what a fallacy is please. We love to learn

BetaThings:
No he is NOT embarrassing himself. He is just saying that it can be like the Lavon Affair!

BetaThings:
At the start of the WWII, Hitler in other to justify his planned invasion of Poland, got some condemned Germans, dressed them up in Polish Army uniform and had them shot inside German soil to make it look like Poland soldiers attacked Germany


We also know that some African criminals arrange to get Nigerian passports to commit their evil. The Isreali agents that carried out the assassination in Dubai used British, Swiss, Irish, Dutch passports etc
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-israel-s-mossad-still-using-foreign-passports-in-undercover-operations-1.412502
So it is not every criminal that shouts Allahu Akbar that is indeed a muslim.

BetaThings:
As soon as you counter the lies reported here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1177010/hoaxes-fabrications-islam-muslims

BetaThings:
Nobody refuses to learn. Start the education, we will follow it. But no propaganda please. Just the utmost truth!
Let me ask you again, how is Boko Haram benefiting Islam?

thehomer:

I don't want his head of his neck, I just don't want to see dishonesty. What you've shown above is just his equivocation. Note the words I put in bold. He recognizes his equivocation yet continues with what he was saying. So is he saying Muslims should be terrorists or not?



So a Muslim cannot kill another Muslim? You must be joking. Really.



And you need to read through what you write before clicking submit. Do you have the names of these Jews and why they didn't show up to work that day? If Jews were present, it was by chance. If they were absent, it was a conspiracy but you've just said that some Jews were present and others were absent. Were you expecting them all to flock to the buildings?



What architectural analysis? How many buildings have been deliberately hit by large planes? What conspiracy are you trying to describe? If you're talking about bombs, how did those who placed them get in and get out of the buildings? And how did the usual workers not see or smell anything different from the previous day?



And I've told you to be rational and logical in your response. I would advice you to avoid conspiratorial thinking. It won't help you solve your problems.

thehomer:

I don't want his head of his neck, I just don't want to see dishonesty. What you've shown above is just his equivocation. Note the words I put in bold. He recognizes his equivocation yet continues with what he was saying. So is he saying Muslims should be terrorists or not?



So a Muslim cannot kill another Muslim? You must be joking. Really.



And you need to read through what you write before clicking submit. Do you have the names of these Jews and why they didn't show up to work that day? If Jews were present, it was by chance. If they were absent, it was a conspiracy but you've just said that some Jews were present and others were absent. Were you expecting them all to flock to the buildings?



What architectural analysis? How many buildings have been deliberately hit by large planes? What conspiracy are you trying to describe? If you're talking about bombs, how did those who placed them get in and get out of the buildings? And how did the usual workers not see or smell anything different from the previous day?



And I've told you to be rational and logical in your response. I would advice you to avoid conspiratorial thinking. It won't help you solve your problems.

babyosisi:

Back to topic

Show us where Christians arose in the manner I listed and killed Muslims
Is that a concession of defeat I smell
Hahahaha

golpen:

OMG!!! ... I can't just stop laughing! So you have turned to Wole soyinka because of Zakir Naik.

golpen:
EQUIVOCATION... Maybe that's the best word for you to use in order to keep up with the argument. Then I put it that your argument is not logical. And it shows how extreme your hate just like your fellow bigots. How will you call that equivocation, when you have him condemning strictly act of terrorising innocent people, quoting from the Qur'an. What a miss!

golpen:
I know All you want to hear is he said every muslim should be a terrorist and I'm sure you never even got the equivocation before passing the fake news about an innocent man. You are indeed a christian.

golpen:
"So a Muslim cannot kill another Muslim? You must be joking. Really." Says you and I think its you that is joking. Someone like you will sacrifice the whole town in your quest to become a king, only to be, and find nobody to rule over.

golpen:
You claim you have the list of jews that died in the incident. Produce them and prove they work there. Your teacher says 1+1 equals 2 and you say no, without your own made answer, then what kind of a student are you?

golpen:
I really wish I could help you with a link, but I'm using my phone.