gallivant:
Be clear when you say the East African coast. It's quite big and we wouldn't want any mis-represantation of historical facts.

ArtanK:


Hmmm ok what does this mean then?
And how exactly have I proven that I don't care about the Garissa Uni attack?

Artank:

No life is worth less than another so why should we forget our people that were massacred at the hands of the Kenyan government and weep when they are massacred by terrorists? It would be ideal for us if the men behind the attack on the university were brought to justice but there is absolutely no way in hell we're just going to forgive and forget what happened on Wagalla airstrip in 1984 and in Garissa 1980.

ArtanK:

Somalis get along just fine with everybody - you can't refute that statement either. All you have is a school fight and Axum's trolling.

ArtanK:


You mean the AU soldiers that were commanded to a 1km road from the airport to the presidential palace. AU only started the fighting after 2011, before that, they allowed Alshabab to be in control of most of the south and central regions and the only entities actually fighting Alshabab were Somali clan militias.

Btw AU didn't drive them out of the capital, they were in possession of most of the city until they left suddenly without a single bullet being fired.

ArtanK:

Did you even click the link? and do you ever google stuff? We are not talking about Sudan! Jubaland is got it's name from the River Juba that runs across the southern regions of Somalia.

http://news.yahoo.com/somalia-sues-kenya-top-un-court-over-maritime-225946278.html
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Somalia---It-s-our-water--sovereignty--/-/2558/2467202/-/147svx/-/index.html
http://www.geeskaafrika.com/kenya-risks-of-losing-somalis-territorial-waters-in-the-indian-ocean/5521/

Notice how they tried to accelerate the oil exploration in disputed area after they created a vassal state within Somalia.

ArtanK:

Pardon me for having a hard time believing you but you are full of inconsistencies. If you truly had so many encounters with Somalis, you would have shared them the first time I asked you. You didn't have a hard time repeating whatever Axum said so why was it so hard to recall your "encounters" when they were needed? I call that bullshitt.

ArtanK:


And where did you pull this out of? You are just pure comedy wallahi.

Tell me about the currencies of these states.

As for your question, the Ajuuraan empire fought tooth and nail with the Portuguese and even going after them to defeat them on the East African coast repeatedly.

BlackKenichi:

Where in the hell did you get the idea that I'm not Jamaican and I'm really a Kenyan in disguise?


Silly negro bedwench! You're ret@rded. That white d1ck has poisoned your mind!

KenyanLady:

Chimp.

You are one of us, Be a man and come out the closet.

BlackKenichi:

In your dreams I'm a Kenyan. I don't have a crappy East African chin/jaw (the ability to take a beating). Go back to worshipping white men with their small d1cks, low sexual stamina and weak chins/jaws!

KenyanLady:
BlackKenichi.

Chimp.

You can deny it all you want, But Kenyan is written on your forehead, never be ashamed of your Kenyan ethnicity.

I never thought about hiding my ethnicity and nationality.


pkjag.

I am Axum, are you happy now?

You sound more and more like that subhuman gallivant who is way too obsessed with Axum and Somalis.

what a môron!!!

KenyanLady:
[b]BlackKen

I am Axum, are you happy now?

You sound more and more like that subhuman gallivant who is way too obsessed with Axum and Somalis.

what a môron!!!

Omarbah:

Here is what you said earlier


From the get go, you started reminding me of what happened in Garissa in 1980 and you clearly said that won't weep for the Kenyans. Why would you remind me of such if you didn't see in the recent killings some sort of revenge? The more we talk about this, the more you deep yourself deeper. Of course you can't come out clearly and say you approve of it. But anyone that can read between the lines knows your position.

Omarbah:
You are in denial. First of all here is an article pertaining to tensions between Somalis and black Americans.
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2009/12/20/african-and-african-american-clashes-culture
Here is also another link on a book that discuss of the same relations where black American soldiers describe how Somalis used to make fun of their hair and looks when the US deploy there. The book also mentions how most Somalis do not identify with other black Africans and how even to this day, the descendants of Bantu Tanzanian slaves are mistreated in Somalia. Will you refute this? Again you are in denial. Axum only expresses what[b] most[/b] Somalis feel deep down. And I wish other west Africans who are generally friendly to anyone would realize that.

Omarbah:
lmao, they left a city that they controlled just like that, "without a single bullet fired". What a joke. Forgive me for not believing you. There is actually a wikipedia post on the battle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_%282010%E2%80%9311%29
Al Shabab has been loosing ground in the country mostly due to the intervention of the AU and other east African countries. They panicked which is why they are attacking Kenya hoping to have them withdraw from Somalia.

Omarbah:
Yahoo is a lot better than the shitty website you provided earlier. I know enough not to trust articles coming from dubious websites. Now on the subject of oil, we will see what the court has to say. Stealing your oil would mean that it is already known to be yours and that the presence of Kenyan troops is ultimately for exploitation of the resource. But we do agree that it is not the case here. Both countries lay claims to it. Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire had the same problems recently.

Omarbah:
Once again, I dislike black Africans that call refer to other Africans as "You Africans" and it is the case of most Somalis I have met which why I do not carry our conversations far. Once any African employs that term, it automatically shows you the kind of person he or she is. I try to keep it to the usual "Salam alaykum" and that's it.

Omarbah:

Are you serious, is this what you call "bringing down European superpowers". That is gross self flagellation. Not only Portugal was not a superpower but defeating them at your coast is far from bringing them down. I thought you were going to tell me how you had your navy go to Europe to destroy their state. The Moors on the other hand which had Black Muslims did go as far as occupying the Iberian Peninsula. Now that is something to brag about. Ehhh Allah!

gallivant:
We have been through this already. Our history is not intertwined with yours.

ArtanK:


Portugal was not a superpower in the 15th century?? You can repeat that again.
They tried to destroy and loot the Somali coast completely, they failed and the plan backfired on them. Their colonies in Southeast Africa paid the price for their stupid plan.

ArtanK:


I wasn't even talking about the recent Garissa attacks until you mentioned it. I'll put it in simple bullet points so everyone can understand where I'm coming from and see past your silly little game.


- You said we despise and distrust Kenyans.
- I began stating the reasons why some members in our community don't like them i.e. Jubaland initiative, maritime border dispute, Wagalla, Garissa massacres and I didn't even mention the recent Kasaraani concentration camp.
- Then you spontaneously mention the recent Alshabab attack on Garissa and accuse me of trying to make you look away from it when we weren't even talking about it.
- When I said that no life is worth more than another you ignored that and again accused me of covertly supporting Alshabab. I didn't talk about Garissa in 1980 from the get go, you just desperately mentioned the Uni attack to make me look like the villain here. It was a pathetic attempt tbh.

ArtanK:

Garissa is a predominately Somali town in Kenya and many of the victims were Somali... We can also play that game too and blame BH on Northern Nigerians.

ArtanK:

No life is worth less than another so why should we forget our people that were massacred at the hands of the Kenyan government and weep when they are massacred by terrorists? It would be ideal for us if the men behind the attack on the university were brought to justice but there is absolutely no way in hell we're just going to forgive and forget what happened on Wagalla airstrip in 1984 and in Garissa 1980.

ArtanK:

The article states common problems among the African community in America. The prejudices and stereotypes are quite widespread among Africans, believe it or not I've read an article that reported on Nigerian immigrants calling AAs 'akata', I'm sure you know what that means. As for the US soldiers in Somalia, what do you expect? Even the white soldiers were called pigs and what not. We all know where it ended for the US in Somalia.
All the minorities, including major clans were marginalised under the Siad Barre regime and the Bantu received their fair share of it. Also during the civil war, the minorities were technically sitting ducks and the warring factions took advantage of them. They fare much better today where they own their own farmland and are incorporated into the Somali clan system. All the minorities need better political representation so it is fair for them as well. That problem is slowly being fixed now. Somali Bantu workers enjoy a lot of freedom and benefit immensely from the construction boom in the capital.

It is up to you if you choose to believe a man who declared himself God and spewed a load of other crap here. I'm done arguing about this.

ArtanK:

You are contradicting your own link. Most of the fighting were between the Somali National Army + the Somali ASWJ fighters and Alshabab. That's why the SNA had the most soldiers in the battles before Alshabab withdrew from Mogadishu and also the most casualties. In the two year timeline in that link, there were more than 500 dead Somali soldiers compared to the 100 Amisom soldiers.

ArtanK:

Since we're paying close attention to the terminology, is it not stealing when the resources sit on our EEZ? You are completely ignoring the fact that Kenya entered Somalia with their main priority being to create a vassal state so they can influence the decision making in Somalia. Top that with recently disputing our waters and getting foreigners (China and Norway) to fund their sinister plan. You can sugar-coat it however you like but it is most definitely exploitation, theft and treachery.

ArtanK:

Most Somalis? didn't you say that you met really few? You are clutching straws really but I'll let you have it. It only reflects on your intelligence when you generalise an entire community because of a troll and someone who excluded themselves when he/she was talking to you or other Africans.

I really hope you keep it at hi and bye, it would spare a fellow Somali from having to deal with your bias. As you said, you believe what you want.

ArtanK:

He's exaggerating, if we really hated people, we wouldn't have helped many African states in their fight for independence - I'll expand on this when we're discussing political influence. We're not xenophobic but he is.

KenyanLady:









PS. This is my last response to you.

KenyanLady:
Someone here who is unemployed and retarded is really very much obsessed with Somali people, and I wonder why oh why

adamskutty:
Coalback charcant, ur mister hasn't even started with u and u are about to run away ?

Fulaman198:


BlackKenichi is definitely not Kenyan, he's completely Jamaican

axum:
Kenya cracking down on Somalis financially and freezing assets will only lure more Somalis inside of Kenya to the cause of Alshabaab. I am sure Alshabaab is very happy Kenya took these steps in targeting Somalis.

KenyanLady:


lool.

typical adolescent response..


BlackKenichi is one of us not Jamaican.

BlackKenichi:

What makes you think that I'm Kenyan?

mfuasi:


Axum/Kenyanlady playing games around your head.We all know you are Kenyan, you don't require validation from that foolx.

BlackKenichi:

I'm not Kenyan, I'm Jamaican!