jidegirl12: Training ..... When you have nurtured and instilled good morals into them and one of them still go on her way to get pregnant or impregnate a girl ??

What do you call that? Failed parenting??

bukatyne:

Because they did not do their job.

God said He will bless the work of our hands, faith without work is dead etc.

Imagine a farmer that refuses to plant corn in the soil crying and praying that 'God let my corn grow etc.'

That Farmer is the parents;
The soil is the child/his mind;
The corn is the teachings and training;
The God is God.

God did not give children to parents as a status symbol; He gave children to parents for training and helping them achieve what God created them to achieve. Just how God cannot rain Naira notes from the sky, He cannot teach babies Himself though He takes over in extreme cases.

jidegirl12: Training ..... When you have nurtured and instilled good morals into them and one of them still go on her way to get pregnant or impregnate a girl ??

What do you call that? Failed parenting??

bukatyne:

You have played your part.

Fhemmmy:

So after playing your part and the kids did not listen, who do you blame for the wrong doing of such child? I just wanna see the blame game to the end.

bukatyne:

You have played your part.

Fhemmmy:

So after playing your part and the kids did not listen, who do you blame for the wrong doing of such child? I just wanna see the blame game to the end.

nikkykay:
God knows its d child

Fhemmmy:

So after playing your part and the kids did not listen, who do you blame for the wrong doing of such child? I just wanna see the blame game to the end.

jidegirl12:

So what bout the other part??

Or this:

bukatyne:

The child

Look at it like this:

Eli's children were irresponsible and God punished Eli
Samuel's children were irresponsible and God did not punish Samuel

bukatyne:

The child

bukatyne: The child

nikkykay:
God knows its d child

bukatyne:

The child

Look at it like this:

Eli's children were irresponsible and God punished Eli
Samuel's children were irresponsible and God did not punish Samuel

bukatyne:

The child

Look at it like this:

Eli's children were irresponsible and God punished Eli
Samuel's children were irresponsible and God did not punish Samuel

jidegirl12:

Now it's the bible but when it's submission bibles tossed out the window?? What about human will , lets leave bible outta this??

nikkykay:
The bible even says dat any child dat is be corrected but refuses will be destroy without any controversy.
Its in d book of Psalms

nikkykay:
Dont forget the part of the bible dat says " i will have mercy unto whom i will have mercy"
Also David had mercy but was still punished.
Our God is unquestionable

bukatyne:

Why the closed mouth na?

Even the children would know that they were trained and failed their parents.

The parents will be sad no doubt but no guilt

Fhemmmy:

Eli could have prevented it . . . Eli turn a deaf ear

jidegirl12:

Now it's the bible but when it's submission bibles tossed out the window?? What about human will ? , lets leave bible outta this.

bukatyne:

You are just getting to the Koko of the matter...

He did not train them. God gave Him several opportunities but He still did not listen

jidegirl12:

Now it's the bible but when it's submission bibles tossed out the window?? What about human will ? , lets leave bible outta this.

bukatyne:

Who tossed the Bible out of the window during submission? I have been accused of always quoting the Bible madam

As for leaving the Bible out, it's our standard (if you are a Christian)

Human will... that's another kettle of fish. If my parents trained me and I want to refuse their teachings, I would know that they taught me but I refused.

Fhemmmy:

na wa oh, you people no go let man go wack oh . . . cos this thread is really kool

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tsmith: I for one, I'm not party to find root cause and passing blame. I feel the energy could be positively channelled to resolving issues. Most often in marriaes, it's about who's fault it is etc. Just as some on here have blamed it on the parents. The parents can only teach what they know (what worked for them in their own time and circumstances), couples need to define what works from them, taking into consideration their own circumstances and time.

Also, a good counsellor would never tell you what to do or the decision to take. M.C just helps to see things from different perspectives. My husband and I have had counselling in recent pasts; @ £60 an hour for just a chat, it's rather exepensive, however I left each session knowing myself better.

A neutral 3rd party does help a long way, someone that doesnt know you per say and you may never meet again. Someone that isn't prejudiced and won't hold what you have said against you later.I think this is where pastors, imams and friends and family have failed as M.Cs. Often times, these people tend to tell you what to, get angry when you havent followed their advice, hold and re-use details of the issues at later times or against either party etc.